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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Harddiskng(m): 4:44pm On Jun 29
awesomeJ:
You can just ask here still.

I believe you can find ways to mask any sensitive info you may be trying to avoid exposing.

For instance you could use a fraction or a multiple of the amount involved if you don't want to share the exact amount publicly.

Something like that.

Plus there may be others here who will give you a much better perspective/guidance.

Searched everywhere. Finally found it in my junk.

It about some calculations you dropped here.

I don’t want to derail the trend.

I would reply your email.

Please help me edit my edit my email addy from your previous posts. Spams from working boys on NL dey too plenty grin
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by awesomeJ(m): 10:15pm On Jun 29
Harddiskng:


Searched everywhere. Finally found it in my junk.

It about some calculations you dropped here.

I don’t want to derail the trend.

I would reply your email.

Please help me edit my edit my email addy from your previous posts. Spams from working boys on NL dey too plenty grin

Post's been edited sir.

Sorry I couldn't reply you. It's been a super busy day.

You can just schedule a meet for anytime after church tomorrow.

Use this code on Google meet: qis-jrhu-abp.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by sharone21(f): 10:28pm On Jun 29
PraiseDLord:
Please is there any bank that displays available secondary market T.Bills rates on its app or online banking platform and also permits customers to invest directly on such platform? If yes, please which bank and via what platform?
Thanks

Bamboo app will tell you 18%.....

Meristem just email them, always good rates.

All these app things, one needs to specifically ask them if via email one can buy and sell cos anything one does, there should be this thought of how family can easily access our investments if need be instead of going formal with LETTER OF ADMINISTRATION. Apart from writing and storing safely, passwords, pins, emails, telephone number etc.....

These days I think Treasury bills/ bonds have formal application via any bank or Stockbroker ( preferable, as they take the stress of you, advise and buy any alternative where necessary).

I wonder the rates of foreign bonds cos I noticed Nigeria has best bank rates( fixed deposits), bonds and money market investments( eg Sukuk- going for the 16+% etc).... But their Stock market is deeper and moves better than ours for buying and selling.... B4, our Stock market moves like 3-4 times in a year( to buy at good rate and sell), but since 2015---No way... Good for more knowledgeable and experienced persons.... Reason why Mutual fund is gaining more attention.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Harddiskng(m): 10:35pm On Jun 29
awesomeJ:


Post's been edited sir.

Sorry I couldn't reply you. It's been a super busy day.

You can just schedule a meet for anytime after church tomorrow.

Use this code on Google meet:

No problem boss.

Just let me know the time.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by akinonigbinde: 8:17am On Jun 30
Omonigeriarere:


There is difference between the two statements below bro:

1. You can't bid for primary market unless you have up to N50m.

2. You can't bid for primary market because you don't have up to N50m.

The logical and grammatical difference between the two statements lies in the use of "unless" in the first statement and "because" in the second statement.

1. Statement 1: "You can't bid for the primary market unless you have up to N50m."

This statement implies a condition for bidding in the primary market. It suggests that having up to N50m is a requirement or a threshold that must be met in order to bid.

2. Statement 2: "You can't bid for the primary market because you don't have up to N50m."

This statement provides a reason or explanation for why the person cannot bid in the primary market - because they do not have up to N50m. It directly links the lack of funds to the inability to bid.

In summary, the first statement sets a condition for bidding (having N50m), while the second statement explains the reason for not being able to bid (not having N50m).

Take things cool bro. Things are hard in the country, but we are all here.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by PraiseDLord: 1:06pm On Jun 30
davit:


Yes. I-Invest is a good platform for that. Check their app on play store. It is owned by sterling bank.
Thanks
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by PraiseDLord: 1:06pm On Jun 30
freeman67:


Yes, Standard Chartered Bank does through their banks mobile app but for you to access it, you have to set up your Investment risk profile and then you are good to go. Infact, there you will only access not just TBills but also FG Bonds.

You will also see foreign currency bonds listed (both FG Eurobond and other corporate bonds) and Foreign mutual funds which you can only access if you have a compatible settlement (Dorm) account domiciled with them.
Thanks

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Omonigeriarere: 11:43am On Jul 01
PraiseDLord:

Thanks

I use the same platform and the ease of doing everything on same is top-notch. The only short-coming of the platform I know is that both interest and principal are paid at maturity.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nero4306(m): 3:26pm On Jul 01
Gud afternoon house….. still waiting for sukuk4 rental payment πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”any update
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nero4306(m): 3:27pm On Jul 01
Good afternoon house …. Still waiting for sukuk4 rental payment πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€” any update ??
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by awesomeJ(m): 4:12pm On Jul 01
@Harddiskng
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 4:17pm On Jul 01
Omonigeriarere:


I use the same platform and the ease of doing everything on same is top-notch. The only short-coming of the platform I know is that both interest and principal are paid at maturity.

That's like fixed deposit na. For, TB you get interest upfront. If you intend except you intend reinvest. Also, the rates on those platforms are very low when compared with what you can get from the bank platform. Also, payment to your bank account is direct with bank. You can either withdraw in the banking hall/ATM or transfer as you will as soon as you are credited.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Omonigeriarere: 5:23pm On Jul 01
freeman67:


That's like fixed deposit na. For, TB you get interest upfront. If you intend except you intend reinvest. Also, the rates on those platforms are very low when compared with what you can get from the bank platform. Also, payment to your bank account is direct with bank. You can either withdraw in the banking hall/ATM or transfer as you will as soon as you are credited.

Their policy is that they don't pay interest upfront. However, their interest rates are very competitive and sometimes more than what you can get from bank.

I know this because I trade using bank and the app.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 6:06pm On Jul 01
Omonigeriarere:


Their policy is that they don't pay interest upfront. However, their interest rates are very competitive and sometimes more than what you can get from bank.

I know this because I trade using bank and the app.

Treasury Bills are short term instruments issued by CBN on behalf of FGN at a discount.

Above is the general definition you would see and if you want more examples you can check it. You can only choose to invest your at your own request not by default. The standard is set by CBN and others follow.


Yes, sometime they could have good yields which will supercede the rates but most time yields are passed down as bogus rates for people who do not understand it.

People who play with big money will understand it more. If you decide to reinvest by yourself even without placing the request to banks, you will see that your interest paid upfront when reinvested will yield and interest and that interest when reinvested will yield another until you reach a non significant amount.


I didn't add that with bank, just place your request and your money will be deducted or credited to your and it will be at your disposal when ready. No transferring to any wallet or using any card to invest which in turn will be same when ready and sometimes request to send from wallet to account is delayed. Limiting you access to your fund when urgently needed.


In all these, the most important thing is doing what works for and what you enjoy.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Foodempire: 8:57pm On Jul 01
Nero4306:
Good afternoon house …. Still waiting for sukuk4 rental payment πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€” any update ??

Same here, nothing received yet.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by keeper303: 9:17pm On Jul 01
Foodempire:


Same here, nothing received yet.

I have received alert from GTB this evening. Wait till tomorrow, maybe it will drop.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 10:03pm On Jul 01
Nero4306:
Good afternoon house …. Still waiting for sukuk4 rental payment πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€” any update ??

They've started paying in towards this evening. Maybe it's your bank.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Risingcash94: 8:08am On Jul 02
Good morning Chiefs. Pls I need to know. I applied with the FG SUKUK III 2020 through Afrinvest. That was my first time investing in SUKUK.
I need to know if at maturity I will be credited directly into my bank account or into the Afrinvest wallet from where I will be required to transfer to my bank account? Thank you. πŸ™
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by heavenisreal18: 3:51pm On Jul 02
[quote author=freeman67 post=130709647]

See there is nothing wrong for you to contact any bank you invest with either via call or email on the Friday of Auction week or at least Monday of the following week to confirm the status of your TBills sub

You can sometimes go out of the box of banks and contact other investment houses too because I don't understand what banks are doing these days. You can contact coronation, Greenwich, Afrinvest etc. Asides primary market, they sometimes some good deals in the secondary market too. You are just emails or calls away most times.
Pls I got their response today that primary auction failed again that is only secondary that is available , what is the difference , challenges between primary auction and secondary auction
I need your response urgently.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by heavenisreal18: 3:54pm On Jul 02
freeman67:


See there is nothing wrong for you to contact any bank you invest with either via call or email on the Friday of Auction week or at least Monday of the following week to confirm the status of your TBills subscription.

You can sometimes go out of the box of banks and contact other investment houses too because I don't understand what banks are doing these days. You can contact coronation, Greenwich, Afrinvest etc. Asides primary market, they sometimes some good deals in the secondary market too. You are just emails or calls away most times.


Pls I got their response today that primary auction failed again that is only secondary that is available , what is the difference , challenges between primary auction and secondary auction
I need your response urgently.

Thank you
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 7:46pm On Jul 02
heavenisreal18:


Pls I got their response today that primary auction failed again that is only secondary that is available , what is the difference , challenges between primary auction and secondary auction
I need your response urgently.

Thank you

Sorry I didn't get to see your message when it came.

The difference is usually not very much of their rate is considerate.

1. The primary market is usually issued by the CBN through their different agents which are bank and co. While the secondary market is a kind of over the counter deal between those that bought from the issuer (CBN) and want to sell to an intending buyer. This too is facilited mostly by same agents which are bank and co.

2. The tenures of the Primary market are clearly stipulated (91,182 and 365 days.). Will be same irrespective of the agents you choose to buy through while In the secondary market, tenures are based on what they have available to offer.

3. The secondary market rates are most times a bit lower than the prevailing primary market rates. However, you could sometimes see equivalent or slightly above rates.

Overall, there is usually not too much difference in the end if you consider the fact that you may still leave your funds in the bank for two more weeks if you decide to wait for the next Primary Market Auction.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by heavenisreal18: 10:14pm On Jul 02
freeman67:


Sorry I didn't get to see your message when it came.

The difference is usually not very much of their rate is considerate.

1. The primary market is usually issued by the CBN through their different agents which are bank and co. While the secondary market is a kind of over the counter deal between those that bought from the issuer (CBN) and want to sell to an intending buyer. This too is facilited mostly by same agents which are bank and co.

2. The tenures of the Primary market are clearly stipulated (91,182 and 365 days.). Will be same irrespective of the agents you choose to buy through while In the secondary market, tenures are based on what they have available to offer.

3. The secondary market rates are most times a bit lower than the prevailing primary market rates. However, you could sometimes see equivalent or slightly above rates.

Overall, there is usually not too much difference in the end if you consider the fact that you may still leave your funds in the bank for two more weeks if you decide to wait for the next Primary Market Auction.
Thank you very much
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by heavenisreal18: 10:19pm On Jul 02
freeman67:


Sorry I didn't get to see your message when it came.

The difference is usually not very much of their rate is considerate.

1. The primary market is usually issued by the CBN through their different agents which are bank and co. While the secondary market is a kind of over the counter deal between those that bought from the issuer (CBN) and want to sell to an intending buyer. This too is facilited mostly by same agents which are bank and co.

2. The tenures of the Primary market are clearly stipulated (91,182 and 365 days.). Will be same irrespective of the agents you choose to buy through while In the secondary market, tenures are based on what they have available to offer.

3. The secondary market rates are most times a bit lower than the prevailing primary market rates. However, you could sometimes see equivalent or slightly above rates.

Overall, there is usually not too much difference in the end if you consider the fact that you may still leave your funds in the bank for two more weeks if you decide to wait for the next Primary Market Auction.

This is the rate I was offered for secondary, 142 days 15.50percent
177days 16.50percent, 247 days 17percent, 359days 19.50per.
Which of these days do you consider to be good to go for

Thanks for your response
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by infinitemiles: 6:28am On Jul 03
Pls do Zenith Bank still do Treasury bills. The last time I went to their bank they told me that they don't offer Treasury bill to individual account anymore
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Risingcash94: 7:25am On Jul 03
GOOD MORNING MY BOSSES. PLS DOES ANYONE HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT THIS QUESTION BELOW ? THANKS πŸ™


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Risingcash94:
Good morning Chiefs. Pls I need to know. I applied with the FG SUKUK III 2020 through Afrinvest. That was my first time investing in SUKUK.
I need to know if at maturity I will be credited directly into my bank account or into the Afrinvest wallet from where I will be required to transfer to my bank account? Thank you. πŸ™
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 7:30am On Jul 03
heavenisreal18:


This is the rate I was offered for secondary, 142 days 15.50percent
177days 16.50percent, 247 days 17percent, 359days 19.50per.
Which of these days do you consider to be good to go for

Thanks for your response


It depends on your how long you want to invest it but going by the stop rates of the last PMA, the 359 days there is the most attractive. If I am the one, I'm ll chose that.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 7:38am On Jul 03
Risingcash94:
GOOD MORNING MY BOSSES. PLS DOES ANYONE HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT THIS QUESTION BELOW ? THANKS πŸ™


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I don't know about SUKUK, TB or Bond with them because the only FGN invest I have with them is yet to mature. However, all other investments I have done with them before like CP and their Alternative Investments which are normally paid directly to your Bank accounts by other issuers or agent were paid into the wallet and I had to request for it to be transferred to my account.

If you don't get any direct answer, just mail them or call their CS to confirm.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 7:44am On Jul 03
heavenisreal18:


This is the rate I was offered for secondary, 142 days 15.50percent
177days 16.50percent, 247 days 17percent, 359days 19.50per.
Which of these days do you consider to be good to go for

Thanks for your response

Right from time doing TB with them has always been difficult. It's only a selected few, maybe that have friends or very good customer relationships with them and maybe people in some less busy branches that gets to invest through them.

Contact more TB friendly banks like FBN, Stanbic and maybe even GT.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmasoft(m): 9:36am On Jul 03
Risingcash94:
GOOD MORNING MY BOSSES. PLS DOES ANYONE HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT THIS QUESTION BELOW ? THANKS πŸ™


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Your capital will be paid into the same account you used in receiving your coupon while the investment lasted.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Risingcash94: 2:11pm On Jul 03
emmasoft:


Your capital will be paid into the same account you used in receiving your coupon while the investment lasted.
THANK YOU πŸ™
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by abiolag(m): 3:50pm On Jul 03
Omonigeriarere:


I use the same platform and the ease of doing everything on same is top-notch. The only short-coming of the platform I know is that both interest and principal are paid at maturity.

Pls do you know the procedure to liquidate my treasury bills with zenith bank before maturity? I need d money badly and it was in April I subscribed.
Can I get it and what's d procedure
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 5:13pm On Jul 03
abiolag:


Pls do you know the procedure to liquidate my treasury bills with zenith bank before maturity? I need d money badly and it was in April I subscribed.
Can I get it and what's d procedure

No big deal na. Just go there and tell them you want to liquidate.


As you do, bear In mind that you have already collected the interest upfront except if you invested with the interest. There is also the likelyhood that it would be offered for sale @ lower rate than you got it to attract new buyers or the bank that is collecting it back.

Also, bear in mind that you might incurr a penal charge for liquidating before maturity.

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