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Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:21pm On Jul 07 |
achorladey: In the absence of baptized males females act until males are baptized and the females return to their place: Remain silent in the congregation! |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:30pm On Jul 07 |
achorladey:In the kingdom halls do females stand before baptized men to lead during prayer or preach to the congregation? To remain silent means not to take the mantle of leadership before men {1Timothy 2:12} unbaptized men aren't qualified to act as ministers in the congregation of Christ so when females are the only ones baptized in the congregation they will act but must cover their heads as sign that the office doesn't belong to females! |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 4:51pm On Jul 07 |
MaxInDHouse: In the absence of baptized males females act Where did you get this from? Act as what? Apostles Apostates Teachers Readers Which one? The men leading your congregations are acting as what? |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 4:53pm On Jul 07 |
MaxInDHouse: To be silent is different from taken mantle of leadership Stop manipulating the scripture based on the policies and procedures of your religious organization. You want to start redefining terms again |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by lslamVIRGINS: 6:18pm On Jul 07 |
MaxInDHouse: How many times would I tell you that father the Almighty choose for himself and ordained female servants. I think you know that father is superior than son |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:39pm On Jul 07 |
achorladey: 1 Corinthians 11:3-10 Males shouldn't cover their heads since they're the head over females in sacred service but if females are the only baptized (qualified) in the congregation then the baptized female must cover her head as sign of respect for the headship which rightfully belongs to males. Apostles establish the congregations so females can't serve as Apostles that's why no female was sent to establish churches in Bible times! |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 6:43pm On Jul 07 |
MaxInDHouse: What is in 1 Corinthians 11: 3-10? Quote where it is stated in the Bible women should act in the absence of men as apostles. |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:44pm On Jul 07 |
lslamVIRGINS:In which religion do you think God ordained females to lead in worship in the presence of males? If you consider the time of Moses the high priest leads all Israel in worship and there was no time a female was chosen to serve as high priest. Jesus is the Son of God through whom pure worship was extended to gentiles like you and i when choosing Apostles to lead his disciples he chose only males. So which God are you talking about here? |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:50pm On Jul 07 |
achorladey: MaxInDHouse:This is what i posted so if you don't get it i mean females can't serve as Apostles! Apostles are the pillars of the church they are the ones who establish churches everywhere they go, that assignment was never given to females. It's after they have established the churches that females can assist in offices like teachers, shepherds, pastors and prophets in the congregation until men are qualified to take all those responsibilities then the females must return to their position: remain silent in the congregation regarding office of oversight! |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 7:00pm On Jul 07 |
MaxInDHouse: That's what defending religious policies and procedures does to someone. Where did the Bible says women should acts as apostles in the absence of men. This is what i posted so if you don't get it i mean females can't serve as Apostles!.....Maxindhouse Females can act as apostles in the absence of males....... MaxInDHouse 1 Like |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:05pm On Jul 07 |
achorladey:Na way o! I keep repeating myself that females can't serve or act as Apostles because that office was meant for those serving as pillars of the church of Christ: The wall of the city also had 12 foundation stones, and on them were the 12 names of the 12 apostles of the Lamb. Revelations 21:14 So that office was never vacant for females! |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 7:07pm On Jul 07 |
MaxInDHouse: Where did you see women can act as apostles in the absence of men? So that office was never vacant for females Vacant or not is not the issue here in the first place. The content and context of the Bible verse related to this was not written with vacancy mindset. 1 Like |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:10pm On Jul 07 |
achorladey: Chai ọmọ this is why it's difficult to rebel against the organization of God. Simply because you just want to prove God's organization wrong you're arguing back and forth shey? Ọmọ women can't act as Apostles it's impossible because Apostles are the foundation stones (establishers of churches) no female was given such a privilege in Bible times! |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 7:15pm On Jul 07 |
MaxInDHouse: Yesterday no organization should be brought into this discussion Today.... Simply because you just want to prove God's organization wrong you're arguing back and forth shey. I am not going back and forth. You are advancing what is contradictory and you don't want to accept it as contradicting. In the final analysis it is your religious organization policies and procedures that women can act as apostles in the absence of men. I am not going to slaughter you when you admit it. When I showed you Junia as an Apostle you jumped into Bible translation I use and I should believe what I choose now it is See how your lies and manipulations come full circle....... Ọmọ women can't act as Apostles it's impossible because Same MaxInDHouse....... In the absence of baptized males females act as apostles until males...... Hiding under rebellion against that your man made religious organization you call God's organization won't save you now 1 Like |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:19pm On Jul 07 |
achorladey: Any organization where females act as Apostles must have done that in error so they should correct it because Apostles are chosen to serve as foundation stone (pillars) of the church of Christ. So it's wrong! |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by Emusan(m): 7:20pm On Jul 07 |
MaxInDHouse: You can continue to repeat that nonsense! Nonsense remains nonsense even if spoken by the most scientist! 1 Like |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:21pm On Jul 07 |
Emusan: OK Sir! 1 Like |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 7:24pm On Jul 07 |
Emusan: Let me remind him of the nonsense again..... Females are used to fill the office in the absence of baptized males Or.... In the absence of baptized males females act as apostles until males...... And more..... Ọmọ women can't act as Apostles it's impossible because 1 Like |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 7:25pm On Jul 07 |
MaxInDHouse: Your religious organization do admit they make errors and mistakes anyway. That your religious organization is acting in error then. Do you agree? Apostles are not the only foundation of the church. More problem for you to sort again. 1 Like |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by Emusan(m): 7:28pm On Jul 07 |
achorladey: A contradiction that is very obvious! Now that Mightysparrow exposed his lie as a result of his restlessness on Nairaland, he wants to twist it with more contradiction 2 Likes |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:30pm On Jul 07 |
In the first century Christian congregation we have two offices that females can't occupy: APOSTLES and ELDERS! No single female was chosen to fill in these two offices because it doesn't belong to females at all but other responsibilities such as teachers, shepherds, pastors and prophets could be given to females pending the time males will qualify to take over from them. Paul warned the Corinthians that if the female among them should take up such office she must cover her head with clothing because angels are sensitive to such abnormalities in sacred service! 1Corinthians 11:10 |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:31pm On Jul 07 |
achorladey: Scriptural references please! |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 7:33pm On Jul 07 |
Emusan: Looool! The same thing he knows exist in their midst maybe not as prominent as in the other Christian religious denominations he will come out and condemn as wrong or bad. 2 Likes |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 7:35pm On Jul 07 |
MaxInDHouse: Together, we are his house, built on the foundation of the apostles and the prophets. And the cornerstone is Christ Jesus himself There you have it. That prophet and prophesying just make your position on this issue more worrisome for you. |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:58pm On Jul 07 |
achorladey: So you have no scriptural backup for what you claim shey? Well for the benefit of other followers of this thread i will clarify matters: This is what you said: achorladey: But it's scripturally WRONG! HOW? Jesus made it clear that the Apostles are the foundation stones of his church {Revelations 21:14} this means they are the pillars holding the house together. So according to Apostle Paul the house built on top of this foundation stones is the church comprising of all the members both males and females, old and young! For we are God’s fellow workers. You are God’s field under cultivation, God’s building 1Corinthians 3:9 Note the highlighted in blue. Paul said the Apostles (himself inclusive) are God's fellow workers while the congregation (church) is God's field under cultivation or God's building. A house must have foundation which differs from the house itself so if a house doesn't have a foundation it will collapse. No engineer will ever agree with you that the house and the foundation means the same thing because they are never constructed the same way! So if you have something tangible to say let's hear it i'm not interested in your yarning off point this evening: CJStarz: |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 10:34pm On Jul 07 |
MaxInDHouse: IslamVIRGIN said today...... The guy no get brain You know who you are the moment you stated... So you have no scriptural backup for what you claim shey? Indeed your use of your brains need to be called into question Well for the benefit of other followers of this thread i will clarify matters: Your clarification will expose that indeed you no get brains This is what I stated.... Together, we are his house, built on the foundation of the apostles and the prophets. And the cornerstone is Christ Jesus himself And your brains didn't recognise that is Ephesians 2:20 But it's scripturally WRONG! After you read the above you will see your scripturally right HOW? More exposure of your not using your brains well but to lie and manipulate scripture Jesus made it clear that the Apostles are the foundation stones of his church {Revelations 21:14} this means they are the pillars holding the house together. This revelation 21:14..... The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. Content and context is not talking about the church. Your lies and manipulations packed into your brains exposed. So according to Apostle Paul the house built on top of this foundation stones is the church comprising of all the members both males and females, old and young! What was built on the foundation stones is not the point here. Distractions For we are God’s fellow workers. You are God’s field under cultivation, God’s building 1Corinthians 3:9 Irrelevant again. The apostles are not the only foundation of the church Note the highlighted in blue. Paul is part of the building and fellow worker with every other part of the building. They are all meant to build one another up and support one another A house must have foundation which differs from the house itself If not for madness and insanities peddling of your brains, do you have a house that don't have foundation? How can a house differ from it's foundation? Go school, No. Even technical education will tell that a building(house) in simple basic technology comprises a structure that has 1. Floor, foundation 2. Walls 3. Roof Where did you get house that don't have foundation? so if a house doesn't have a foundation it will collapse. Which means a foundation is part of the building(house) no foundation no house. Foundation is part of what makes a house not separated from what makes a house . No engineer will ever agree with you that the house and the foundation means the same thing because they are never constructed the same way! No engineer will tell you a house is separate from foundation. what is a house without foundation? Do you have any building without foundation? So if you have something tangible to say let's hear it i'm not interested in your yarning off point this evening: Just look at the screenshot attached below... 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:51am On Jul 08 |
So it's either the church make amendments in organizational setting or remain in their errors no single female was chosen to serve as one of the pillars (foundation stones) in Christianity. Thanks, God bless you and may you have PEACE!
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Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MightySparrow: 7:19am On Jul 08 |
MaxInDHouse: But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. Don't you feel the verse qouted is solely Paul's opinion? Later Paul wrote: Galatians 3:28, "there is neither male nor female, for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." In what context is female equal and the same time not equal? Holy Spirit came upon all the people in the Upper Room baptized all of them without discrimination. I understand that your organization doesnot have female leaders, that is your community truth Deeper Life, RCCG, Apostolic Faith... Anglican have, Catholic no. These are mere community truths. Church and organization of evolved over years and people are commissioned to take positions as needed. Before Christ came, nowhere was it said that Jews should build synagogues. Since man by nature are travellers, they carried their culture and religion everywhere they went Jesus did not make anybody Apostles, before His ascension all were disciples. The five fold ministry as handed down by the Apostles are not recognized in your organization (community truth), some ministries do. Back to women and preaching, there are many ministries with women with great feats. Priscilla, Maria Woodworth - Etter Kathryn Kulman, Amiee Simpson, Dorothy Trudell, Florence Crawford..,. Some of these founded churches that has lasted over a century. In fact, Apostolic Faith and your organization were founded same year in the same country. Can we now say that God does not approve their works and all their members are lost ( anyway, JWs believe that all the saints before, now, and in the future are doomed). Meaning, whosoever,is not approved by GB is not approved by God ( community delusion). Since God promised and did pour His Spirit on all men ( men and women in fulfillment). For what purpose? 1 Like |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by lslamVIRGINS: 9:55am On Jul 08 |
MaxInDHouse: Were you told inside hall that God has a religion? You have to stop listening to your people in JW's, they only gather you inside hall to brainwash you occultist members 1 Like |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 9:58am On Jul 08 |
MightySparrow: This term you like using called community delusion dey make me laugh. |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 11:54am On Jul 08 |
lslamVIRGINS: Especially religion in the sense of being a card carrying member of a religious organization set up by men all over world today. |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MightySparrow: 12:45pm On Jul 08 |
achorladey: Me too. I am laughing in JWs' paradise's language. |
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