Khanben:


The fit is a bit weird to me, the Kings love to play fast and move the ball a lot in the half court. Derozan for all his shot making is a ball stopper. Also this doesn't move the needle defensively at all.
IMHO, the kings just moved off a player who is a better fit for their team, but one who chokes big time in the playoffs, for a player who is definitely not a good fit, but one who is way better at getting you a bucket when you need one

True, but he has fit all the 3 teams he played for. I think he fundamentally is a team player and can get buckets. I man, Sabonis worked out for the kings. I think coach Brown can cook up something. Plus Derozan has never been a grumbler, I dont think he starts today.

Roland17:


I don’t think it is a good trade if you ask me. DeRozan plays at a slower pace than the Kings fast pace offense.

H. Barnes heading to the Spurs

Well maybe that's what they need. A different look. Not like their fast pace has brought them much success.

I like to look at what they gave away for what they got and giving away Harrison Barnes for DeRozan is not bad IMO. That takes a lot of scoring load of Fox especially in close games. He can also facilitate too and just for me takes a lot of burden off Deaaron

Khanben:


I agree that LeBron commandeered as much power as he could hold since he got to the Lakers. But to give the man his due he just took a pay cut that is the equivalent of his son's first 2 years salary. So in essence he his paying for his son to play with him for the 2years that he just signed, and at the same time, helping the Lakers stay under the second apron.

Me I'm not one of those that care about the nepotism thing. Jordan owned a team and had a son averaging 15pg in a D1 school. He could draft his son where he wanted but Boomer dads and Millennial fathers are not the same. Boomer parents ain't handing you shyte

We all know he's a nepo baby so it's poor form when guys like JJ come and tell people he earned it. You're insulting everyone's intelligence atp including yours

And also people are allowed to critique and point out that your son might not be good enough to play. It is not hate, or whatever the Bronsexual cult want to call it. It's what has been done to every professional athlete.

Lol at he took a pay cut? He's signed for a $104m 2 year deal. What does it matter if he didn't. He will only be handicapping his team further.

You want to know why nobody wants to come to the Lakers? It's cause of this drama show. Now it would fly if he was still winning and in his prime but now it's evident LeBron can't lead you to the promise land anymore so the juice isn't worth the squeeze

A40:
Me I'm not one of those that care about the nepotism thing. Jordan owned a team and had a son averaging 15pg in a D1 school. He could draft his son where he wanted but Boomer dads and Millennial fathers are not the same. Boomer parents ain't handing you shyte

We all know he's a nepo baby so it's poor form when guys like JJ come and tell people he earned it. You're insulting everyone's intelligence atp including yours

And also people are allowed to critique and point out that your son might not be good enough to play. It is not hate, or whatever the Bronsexual cult want to call it. It's what has been done to every professional athlete.

Lol at he took a pay cut? He's signed for a $104m 2 year deal. What does it matter if he didn't. He will only be handicapping his team further.

You want to know why nobody wants to come to the Lakers? It's cause of this drama show. Now it would fly if he was still winning and in his prime but now it's evident LeBron can't lead you to the promise land anymore so the juice isn't worth the squeeze

So why did players not come before LeBron was there?
I don't have an issue with the criticism, it is the idea that a nba late 2nd round pick in a historic bad draft has all of a sudden become such a huge asset that is what I find baffling.
I have consistently said Bronny got drafted due to nepotism, but IMHO it's not different from the Bucks keeping Thatanis on their team because of Giannis, or guys getting front office positions because of who their father is/knows, or someone like the Busses getting the reigns of the team because of who their father is.
The idea that anyone expects the Lakers to come out and say that Bronny did not deserve the draft spot is just the height of folly. We all know he does not, but never in my life have I seen the people who had to live with a nepotism based appointment come out and say publicly in the moment that said appointment was not deserved.

PS: we live in a world were nepotism can enable someone to give the highest security clearances (USA ) in the world to 3 of his family members and make them heads of delegations to some of the most delicate political summits in the world. People have been heads of a countries military because of nepotism, people have inherited companies because of nepotism, heck recently one of the oldest unions in the world got their head of state where every citizen became his subjects(UK) because of nepotism etc.
The idea then that a late 2nd round pick in the nba somehow came out of left field is I will repeat laughable

Khanben:

So why did players not come before LeBron was there?
I don't have an issue with the criticism, it is the idea that a nba late 2nd round pick in a historic bad draft has all of a sudden become such a huge asset that is what I find baffling.
I have consistently said Bronny got drafted due to nepotism, but IMHO it's not different from the Bucks keeping Thatanis on their team because of Giannis, or guys getting front office positions because of who their father is/knows, or someone like the Busses getting the reigns of the team because of who their father is.
The idea that anyone expects the Lakers to come out and say that Bronny did not deserve the draft spot is just the height of folly. We all know he does not, but never in my life have I seen the people who had to live with a nepotism based appointment come out and say publicly in the moment that said appointment was not deserved.

Kobe retired. Who was supposed to come immediately.

Why LeNomad sef no go Sacramento or Utah? Shey na only Lakers dey?

People can't say Lakers did not attract players and then still act shocked that even now coaches and players are turning Lakers down again led by a diminishing Bron, like most Bronsexual cult members have been doing all over social media. You guys have to pick a struggle. Either they are a relevant franchise or they are not

You're doing a lot of false equivalence with Thanasis. However you feel about him Thanasis actually earned his way into the league. He was drafted the year after his brother so you can't even compare the two. Thannis was in the D-league, he played and earned his stripes. He wasn't handed guaranteed contracts before playing

Bronny did not earn nothing. and that's ok to say out loud. Why are y'all fighting people for that. Nobody asked overzealous soldier JJ Redick to claim he earned what we all know he didn't earn. Nepo babies don't pretend they earned anything, they just live.

The Buss example is also laughable. Who would call nepotism if LeBron makes his son President of Uninterrupted? No be him company? Who e for put.

Khanben:

PS: we live in a world were nepotism can enable someone to give the highest security clearances (USA ) in the world to 3 of his family members and make them heads of delegations to some of the most delicate political summits in the world. People have been heads of a countries military because of nepotism, people have inherited companies because of nepotism, heck recently one of the oldest unions in the world got their head of state where every citizen became his subjects(UK) because of nepotism etc.
The idea then that a late 2nd round pick in the nba somehow came out of left field is I will repeat laughable

Sports is unique as it's primarily physical performance based. What part of it is not clicking to you? Tinubu making his son Super Eagles goalkeeper will surely draw more scrutiny than Tinubu making his son NFF President

The boy is a Laker for the foreseeable future however looking at the circumstances of his drafting and all the junk his father has said about him being better than players in the league, if it turns out he's not up to snuff. He's going to need therapy.

That's the price you pay for putting your child in the direct line of fire

What is your problem? Do you even have an idea where this began. Your fellow Le '4-6' fan argued that teams were willing to draft him higher than 55, suggesting he was better than the 55th pick(Unless he meant NBA teams are at the mercy of the mighty Lebron and so are willing to do what he tells them) and to that i say definitely not. He doesn't have a better resume than all those drafted above him. Very simple.

Khanben:



Which is why one went 12th and the other 55th, which is exactly what you are forgetting. All of a sudden the 55th pick in the nba draft has become a big deal. Was the pick driven by nepotism? Yes, but the idea that the 55th pick in the nba is an asset is just laughable.

A40:

Kobe retired. Who was supposed to come immediately.

Why LeNomad sef no go Sacramento or Utah? Shey na only Lakers dey?

People can't say Lakers did not attract players and then still act shocked that even now coaches and players are turning Lakers down again led by a diminishing Bron, like most Bronsexual cult members have been doing all over social media. You guys have to pick a struggle. Either they are a relevant franchise or they are not

You're doing a lot of false equivalence with Thanasis. However you feel about him Thanasis actually earned his way into the league. He was drafted the year after his brother so you can't even compare the two. Thannis was in the D-league, he played and earned his stripes. He wasn't handed guaranteed contracts before playing

Bronny did not earn nothing. and that's ok to say out loud. Why are y'all fighting people for that. Nobody asked overzealous soldier JJ Redick to claim he earned what we all know he didn't earn. Nepo babies don't pretend they earned anything, they just live.

The Buss example is also laughable. Who would call nepotism if LeBron makes his son President of Uninterrupted? No be him company? Who e for put.


Sports is unique as it's primarily physical performance based. What part of it is not clicking to you? Tinubu making his son Super Eagles goalkeeper will surely draw more scrutiny than Tinubu making his son NFF President

The boy is a Laker for the foreseeable future however looking at the circumstances of his drafting and all the junk his father has said about him being better than players in the league, if it turns out he's not up to snuff. He's going to need therapy.

That's the price you pay for putting your child in the direct line of fire

Sports is unique? Since when? Lance stroll has a drive in F1 right now that everyone knows he doesn't deserve. Senna's son got a drive he definitely never deserved because of his surname. Thatanis is making bank with both the Bucks and Nike because of his surname. Bill Belicheck gave his son a coaching gig he had no idea of what to do, he then gave a defensive coordinator and a specials team coach joint offense coordinators because they were his boys. The Jets not only brought an offensive coordinator who is trash but also signed 3 players they didn't need because Aaron Rodgers asked for it. The Jaguars have a tight end on the roster whose only qualification is that he his the head coaches son
So please pass me with that BS, that nepotism doesn't occur in sports. I have forgotten the seria
A side that gave Gaddafi son a team slot , or the Chinese man that bought a football team and made sure his obese son played in it. Or are we forgetting Doc rivers giving his son a contract that no one else would have, even Pelinka only got the Lakers GM job because he was Kobe's guy.
So I repeat in which universe was sports ever an exception to nepotism?

benji93:
What is your problem? Do you even have an idea where this began. Your fellow Le '4-6' fan argued that teams were willing to draft him higher than 55, suggesting he was better than the 55th pick(Unless he meant NBA teams are at the mercy of the mighty Lebron and so are willing to do what he tells them) and to that i say definitely not. He doesn't have a better resume than all those drafted above him. Very simple.

I am am a sports fan, I don't give a damn about LeBron, the idea that a 55th pick in a nba draft that every analyst swore up and down was trash, all of a sudden is a big deal is my issue. Nepotism didn't start and will not end with LeBron, the Lakers have an owner who got the gig because of it, a GM who got his gig because he was Kobe's pal.
My point is Bronny got drafted because of Nepotism, but if you want to claim his stats were a reason he should never have been drafted then that is BS, because examples abound of guys especially in the one and done era who got drafted with bad stats in college, heck I remember a first round pick that didn't even play in his one year in college and still got picked.

What's wrong with you? After i wasted my time to tell you where this started you still come up with this?

Khanben:


I am am a sports fan, I don't give a damn about LeBron, the idea that a 55th pick in a nba draft that every analyst swore up and down was trash, all of a sudden is a big deal is my issue. Nepotism didn't start and will not end with LeBron, the Lakers have an owner who got the gig because of it, a GM who got his gig because he was Kobe's pal.
My point is Bronny got drafted because of Nepotism, but if you want to claim his stats were a reason he should never have been drafted then that is BS, because examples abound of guys especially in the one and done era who got drafted with bad stats in college, heck I remember a first round pick that didn't even play in his one year in college and still got picked.

Khanben:


Sports is unique? Since when? Lance stroll has a drive in F1 right now that everyone knows he doesn't deserve. Senna's son got a drive he definitely never deserved because of his surname. Thatanis is making bank with both the Bucks and Nike because of his surname. Bill Belicheck gave his son a coaching gig he had no idea of what to do, he then gave a defensive coordinator and a specials team coach joint offense coordinators because they were his boys. The Jets not only brought an offensive coordinator who is trash but also signed 3 players they didn't need because Aaron Rodgers asked for it. The Jaguars have a tight end on the roster whose only qualification is that he his the head coaches son
So please pass me with that BS, that nepotism doesn't occur in sports. I have forgotten the seria
A side that gave Gaddafi son a team slot , or the Chinese man that bought a football team and made sure his obese son played in it. Or are we forgetting Doc rivers giving his son a contract that no one else would have, even Pelinka only got the Lakers GM job because he was Kobe's guy.
So I repeat in which universe was sports ever an exception to nepotism?

Again. You're quite terrible at drawing parallels. Lance Stroll is a competent driver that went through the grind. He was not rushed into the league like LeNepo.

Thanasis went through the grind. He was drafted. Bad example

Nothing consign me with your Belichick example. That's administrative position and irrelevant to the argument

And who the hell said nepotism doesn't happen in sports? Abi you don drink ogogoro ni. And are confused about what you're arguing about

You mentioned Gaddafi son and whoever but who was celebrating and making it a cute storyline? Who was celebrating Belichick or Pederson or Rodgers? Don't they get criticized and cooked? Don't sports shows drag Nathaniel Hackett everytime

Didn't Austin Rivers get shitted on forgetting he actually went to Duke and was a lottery pick on his own merit. Don't Bronsexuals insult Pelinka and question his merit everytime something goes wrong and refuse to give him credit when he does the right things?

You keep obfuscating the argument. Nobody is denying existence of nepotism. We're saying stop telling people to romanticize or not to criticize a player who they don't believe has earned his spot in the league. He can only silence critics with his play, that's it, so quit trying to shame anyone who's not impressed or enamored with this father/son storyline.

The same way undeserving products of nepotism are usually criticized is the same standard that should be maintained. You have told us your son is better than guys in the league while in HS. Time to show and prove

this nepotism talk is going nowhere. the fact that we are even talking about it proves my earlier point. Lebron did a huge disservice to his son with this nonsense. Dude probably would have been picked higher. I know pops wants to play with his son, but surely not at the risk of your son's career. This was a terrible move tbh. Very selfish too.

Ive had time to sit on it, the only good reason I can see why a father would ensure his son falls to a lower oick so they can play together is if he believes his son wasnt that good to start with. This means the ONLY good reason I can see for Lakers drafting Bronny is nepotism. SOmeone convince me Im wrong pls

birdman:
this nepotism talk is going nowhere. the fact that we are even talking about it proves my earlier point. Lebron did a huge disservice to his son with this nonsense. Dude probably would have been picked higher. I know pops wants to play with his son, but surely not at the risk of your son's career. This was a terrible move tbh. Very selfish too.

Ive had time to sit on it, the only good reason I can see why a father would ensure his son falls to a lower oick so they can play together is if he believes his son wasnt that good to start with. This means the ONLY good reason I can see for Lakers drafting Bronny is nepotism. SOmeone convince me Im wrong pls

Nepotism is not even something we praise so I don't understand their yeye talking points

Thanasis is one of the most virally slandered NBA players for example. Jeannie Buss frequently gets cooked. Austin Rivers (who could actually play) When has society ever applauded nepo babies? So why should it start now

Everyone knows the boy is not good but we're supposed to keep pretending he is else we're some haters. Absolute madness

Lithuania missing the Olympics is quite surprising. Slovenia too

birdman:


I feel like Lebron made a very selfish move here. Maybe with time I will understand it, but I feel like he has unwittingly used his son to generate more news at the expense of his son's career. It would have been better for the boy to start out on his own on some other team, and grow into his own man. This feels like "the decision" part 2. Except his son is now in the circus.

Anyhow this is a father-son thing and I got mines, but I think you gotta be careful with this love thing. Too much can be as bad as too little. I dont like this target and pressure on the boy's back! I hope Im wrong, but when I think how long it took Tatum to come into his own, in spite of the skill set, does LA have the patience for this? I dont think so.

It's common sense to say when Lebron leaves Lakers, Bronny will be kicked out too. Nepotism is nepotism and there is no other name for it. He is not NBA material, period. He is only being baby sat because of Bron Sr.

A40:

Again. You're quite terrible at drawing parallels. Lance Stroll is a competent driver that went through the grind. He was not rushed into the league like LeNepo.

Thanasis went through the grind. He was drafted. Bad example

Nothing consign me with your Belichick example. That's administrative position and irrelevant to the argument

And who the hell said nepotism doesn't happen in sports? Abi you don drink ogogoro ni. And are confused about what you're arguing about

You mentioned Gaddafi son and whoever but who was celebrating and making it a cute storyline? Who was celebrating Belichick or Pederson or Rodgers? Don't they get criticized and cooked? Don't sports shows drag Nathaniel Hackett everytime

Didn't Austin Rivers get shitted on forgetting he actually went to Duke and was a lottery pick on his own merit. Don't Bronsexuals insult Pelinka and question his merit everytime something goes wrong and refuse to give him credit when he does the right things?

You keep obfuscating the argument. Nobody is denying existence of nepotism. We're saying stop telling people to romanticize or not to criticize a player who they don't believe has earned his spot in the league. He can only silence critics with his play, that's it, so quit trying to shame anyone who's not impressed or enamored with this father/son storyline.

The same way undeserving products of nepotism are usually criticized is the same standard that should be maintained. You have told us your son is better than guys in the league while in HS. Time to show and prove

Oga my point is that people were talking as if the 55th pick in the nba has never always been an after thought. For me Bronny was not a draft able prospect, but you know what I won't do is act as if the 55th pick was a big deal. Late 2nd round picks have never been considered assets in the nba, but people are talking as if the Lakers made such a huge investment on picking the kid. As an aside LeBrons pay cut whether we like it or not is the equivalent of his son's 1st 2 years payout.
So in essence all the Lakers spent on the boy over the next two years is the 55th pick of a draft we have all been told was bereft of talent.
If wish the kid all the best, but if the boy fails that is not a huge deal as far as I am concerned because nobody can name 10 or even 5 guys who were picked from 55th and under picks who have ever made it in the nba.

PS: Whether people celebrated or not, those guys still kept those positions and nothing happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD2kOti016U?si=PvJoSIDtwvsnym1M

Link of the juiced stats video breakdown

Khanben:


Oga my point is that people were talking as if the 55th pick in the nba has never always been an after thought. For me Bronny was not a draft able prospect, but you know what I won't do is act as if the 55th pick was a big deal. Late 2nd round picks have never been considered assets in the nba, but people are talking as if the Lakers made such a huge investment on picking the kid. As an aside LeBrons pay cut whether we like it or not is the equivalent of his son's 1st 2 years payout.
So in essence all the Lakers spent on the boy over the next two years is the 55th pick of a draft we have all been told was bereft of talent.
If wish the kid all the best, but if the boy fails that is not a huge deal as far as I am concerned because nobody can name 10 or even 5 guys who were picked from 55th and under picks who have ever made it in the nba.

PS: Whether people celebrated or not, those guys still kept those positions and nothing happened.

Allow people talk whatever they want to talk and pushback on what they said. Their critique is not wrong and they are free to it

If Lebron's taking cuts so his undeserving pikin can remain on the team then why all this una argument since.

What is the average lifespan of a 55th round pick? Since you pointed out that we've never had 5 guys drafted that low that made it in the NBA then why are you surprised at the reaction to him getting the type of contract a player drafted that low got.

Did it occur to you that if 55th picks were getting 3year guaranteed deals with a 4th year team option there would be more 55th pick success stories

If he fails then it only proves he should never have been there in the first place. People are not haters for pointing this out

He's fair game so allow people express their opinions