MightySparrow:

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
Don't you feel the verse qouted is solely Paul's opinion?

With the highlighted i'm satisfied with your stand that you don't regard Paul's letter on the matter but to us Paul was the Apostle Jesus chose to connect us to himself! Act 9:15 compare to 1Timothy 2:7

So it's OK we believe that "all Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness" 2Timothy 3:16

Thanks for your time!

lslamVIRGINS:

Were you told inside hall that God has a religion? You have to stop listening to your people in JW's, they only gather you inside hall to brainwash you occultist members

OK i have heard you!

MaxInDHouse:


With the highlighted i'm satisfied with your stand that you don't regard Paul's letter on the matter but to us Paul was the Apostle Jesus chose to connect us to himself! Act 9:15 compare to 1Timothy 2:7

So it's OK we believe that "all Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness" 2Timothy 3:16

Thanks for your time!

1Cor.7.12 - But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

Can you see that Paul was writing here using his own wisdom to set things straight? Eccl. 10:10


Is every word in the Bible inspired? The same way you will say Adeboye said, he would eat pound yam. You will say Adeboye prophesied, be would eat pounded yam.

Anyway, Deeper Life has female pastors and RCCG too. I like them both.

MaxInDHouse:


OK i have heard you!

May you have peace!

MightySparrow:


1Cor.7.12 - But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

Can you see that Paul was writing here using his own wisdom to set things straight? Eccl. 10:10


Is every word in the Bible inspired? The same way you will say Adeboye said, he would eat pound yam. You will Adeboye prophesied, be would eat pounded yam.

Anyway, Deeper Life has female pastors and RCCG too. I like them both.

I think you are wrong here, you can't compare Apostle Paul with Adeboye.
The bible was not dictated by God but God inspired people to write it down for the benefit for his people.
All scripture is given by inspiration.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

It is the writings that are inspired meaning even when Satan spoke, God inspired men to write it down.
Every scripture is given for doctrine and corrections in righteousness.

The apostles had authority over the church to set doctrines for the church. Because Paul is an Apostle he had authority to set doctrines for the churches, apart the 12 apostles and Paul no other person has this authority.

That is why men of God can write books but their books cannot be taking as scriptures.
When paul said 'I'for example he means it is not a direct command from the Lord however however, true and binding for the church.

For example in 1Timothy Paul said "I will meaning this is not a dialect command form the Lord but nevertheless true and the church should abide by it.
1 Timothy 2:8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

As for women being pastors, there are arguments for women being pastors in the church because there where female prophets and Deborah was a Judge and also Aquila was mentioned that she and her husband instructed apollos, in addition junia was called a minister.
I don't think these arguments stand because first, the old testament national Israel is not the same as the church secondly, a prophet is different from a pastor, a woman can be a prophet it is very in the new testament.

Acts 21:8 And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven; and abode with him. 21:9 And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.

Neither Is the argument about if a woman can be an evangelist or serve in the church.

The issue is that pastoral leadership is primarily for competent men. Mind you not every man can be a pastor because some people will say we are all one in Christ then why the restriction?

when it comes to the church pastoring is for a competent man.

Renewedstrength:
As for women being pastors, there are arguments for women being pastors in the church because there where female prophets and Deborah was a Judge and also Aquila was mentioned that she and her husband instructed apollos, in addition junia was called a minister.
I don't think these arguments stand because first, the old testament national Israel is not the same as the church secondly, a prophet is different from a pastor, a woman can be a prophet it is very in the new testament.

They are all worried because of my church:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION.

So even though they know that the position of high priest in ancient Israel which represents the head of God's congregation back then was never given to a female, Jesus never chose a single female apostle, the scriptures clearly say the apostles are the pillars (foundation stones) of the church and there is no single female among them they just choose to argue and continue opposing whatever i say because it's coming from one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

MaxInDHouse:

They are all worried because of my church:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION.

So even though they know that the position of high priest in ancient Israel which represents the head of God's congregation back then was never given to a female, Jesus never chose a single female apostle, the scriptures clearly say the apostles are the pillars (foundation stones) of the church and there is no single female among them they just choose to argue and continue opposing whatever i say because it's coming from one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Have you also considered that Jehovah witness organisation might be wrong on alot of things?

Renewedstrength:
Have you also considered that Jehovah witness organisation might be wrong on alot of things?

And which organization is performing better than Jehovah's Witnesses?

My friend when it comes to being wrong don't deceive yourself because those claiming the Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong have never for once agreed on scriptural doctrines meaning they're only saying so out of envy.

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION has never ever been wrong when any other group is right. The truth is that after the death of the last apostle John Christianity went into spiritual slavery so by the time Jehovah's Witnesses organization began making research to figure out where the church got things wrong they also didn't get it all correctly at once but for anyone to say the Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong my guy there has never been any religion called "CHURCH" that has been right after the death of the Apostles!

Renewedstrength:
I think you are wrong here, you can't compare Apostle Paul with Adeboye.
The bible was not dictated by God but God inspired people to write it down for the benefit for his people.
All scripture is given by inspiration.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

It is the writings that are inspired meaning even when Satan spoke, God inspired men to write it down.
Every scripture is given for doctrine and corrections in righteousness.

The apostles had authority over the church to set doctrines for the church. Because Paul is an Apostle he had authority to set doctrines for the churches, apart the 12 apostles and Paul no other person has this authority.

That is why men of God can write books but their books cannot be taking as scriptures.
When paul said 'I'for example he means it is not a direct command from the Lord however however, true and binding for the church.

For example in 1Timothy Paul said "I will meaning this is not a dialect command form the Lord but nevertheless true and the church should abide by it.
1 Timothy 2:8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

As for women being pastors, there are arguments for women being pastors in the church because there where female prophets and Deborah was a Judge and also Aquila was mentioned that she and her husband instructed apollos, in addition junia was called a minister.
I don't think these arguments stand because first, the old testament national Israel is not the same as the church secondly, a prophet is different from a pastor, a woman can be a prophet it is very in the new testament.

Acts 21:8 And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven; and abode with him. 21:9 And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.

Neither Is the argument about if a woman can be an evangelist or serve in the church.

The issue is that pastoral leadership is primarily for competent men. Mind you not every man can be a pastor because some people will say we are all one in Christ then why the restriction?

when it comes to the church pastoring is for a competent man.

I totally agree with your submission .
I was not trying to compare Adeboye with Paul. maximumSide understands. He and his club does not see anything good in any other ministry. In fact, when they bring a character out wether in the past or contemporary times, it to rubbish their works. That is why I made reference to Adeboye. If Adeboye or Kumuyi or any other sneezed, it would be prophecy to them. The other day Pastor Kumuyi said ,in an interview, that God would use our president to better the lot of Nigeria. He was asked by a journalist. The response was Kumuyi has prophesied. I was in Deeper Life before and even now, I have never heard pastor Kumuyi prophesying. Not once especially on media.


However, concerning female pastors, evangelists, and the rest, it is mere nomenclature these days. A female Christian music artiste would call herself evangelist. A prophetess would like to use Prophetess XYZ. In some ministries, CAC, for instance, all the biblical offices and nomenclatures are used. In Salvation Army military titles are used . In the early days of Deeper Life, no one went by the title, ' Pastor '. Everyone was 'Bro.'

As I pointed out, there are female ministers of the gospel that stood out with landmark results with mighty manifestations. I mentioned some that I know. It a universal thing. If I cannot understand why? Can I condemn them their works or the Holy Spirit that backed them? Some the ministries they left behind have endured more than a century. If they were wrong, why did God allow it? Deut. 29:29.

I believe that the letter written by Paul to address a particular situation, as good as it was, if other things shows up to be contrary but not destructive. Only God knows why. I belong to a group that believes that God still speaks. If my daughter comes to me and claims that God has called her to pastoral ministry, and God didn't tell me anything, will I go against her conviction? Not at all. That would be her personal truth.

Do I now say that the Holy Spirit in the life of Paul is different from the One now? Not at all. Will the Holy Spirit contradict Himself, let God be true and every man a liar.



Thanks so much brother.

MaxInDHouse:

They are all worried because of my church:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION.

So even though they know that the position of high priest in ancient Israel which represents the head of God's congregation back then was never given to a female, Jesus never chose a single female apostle, the scriptures clearly say the apostles are the pillars (foundation stones) of the church and there is no single female among them they just choose to argue and continue opposing whatever i say because it's coming from one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

You should not be on this thread since it was not about your church. Hypocrite playing the victim card and projecting his failings on others

MaxInDHouse:


And which organization is performing better than Jehovah's Witnesses?

My friend when it comes to being wrong don't deceive yourself because those claiming the Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong have never for once agreed on scriptural doctrines meaning they're only saying so out of envy.

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION has never ever been wrong when any other group is right. The truth is that after the death of the last apostle John Christianity went into spiritual slavery so by the time Jehovah's Witnesses organization began making research to figure out where the church got things wrong they also didn't get it all correctly at once but for anyone to say the Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong my guy there has never been any religion called "CHURCH" that has been right after the death of the Apostles!

The community delusion MightySparrow talks about


JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION has never ever been wrong when any other group is right.

Romans 13:1 = Jehovah and Jesus = Jehovah's Witnesses (wrong)

Romans 13:1 = Governmental authorities = other Christian denominations (right)

Empty boasting as usual

MaxInDHouse:


And which organization is performing better than Jehovah's Witnesses?

My friend when it comes to being wrong don't deceive yourself because those claiming the Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong have never for once agreed on scriptural doctrines meaning they're only saying so out of envy.

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION has never ever been wrong when any other group is right. The truth is that after the death of the last apostle John Christianity went into spiritual slavery so by the time Jehovah's Witnesses organization began making research to figure out where the church got things wrong they also didn't get it all correctly at once but for anyone to say the Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong my guy there has never been any religion called "CHURCH" that has been right after the death of the Apostles!

Wrong Sir. In as much as I appreciate the works and zeal of Jehovah Witnesses, I believe you guys are living in delusion. The fact that you have not gotten everything right still makes you human. You are humans running a human organization with the name of Jehovah!

As good, faithful as Moses was, he made certain blunders, he mispresented God. In part , God disallowed him entering The Promised Land as punishment or to prevent further embarrassment? On the other hand, Jesus came, and tried to correct some of his doctrinal errors (One of such is the Law that he wrote. The commandments were on tablets of stone, kept in the Ark. The Laws were in animal skin kept outside the Ark) The Hebrews could not agree with Him. The same Elijah and David. See the vindictive prayers of David. See the destructive fire of Elijah.
It is interesting to know that everyone that led a movement believed they held the whole truth and everyone else was wrong with passage of time, their errors would be revealed

Jehovah's Witnesses are not different. What is different in Jehovah's Witnesses is a different delusion. I was in a ministry where we believe that after God, it was us. We were special in our delusion, community delusion.
C.T. Russell started his Bible study movement by whatever name. He held the 'truth'. Today, Jehovah's Witnesses are quiet about their departure from the man claiming he was influenced by the church and popular doctrines of his time. Today, Jehovah's Witnesses esteem J.F. Rutherford. In recent times, the Governing Body is bringing 'New Lights'. In about a hundred years to come, if the end hasn't come, it is possible that all your celebrated practices and doctrines would be swallowed up by the 'Reigning Lights'.
The church has ever being like that. If you studied outside your confines, you would discover that there is nothing new. Not even Jehovah's Witnesses's delusion. Generational church delusions have been with us, so shall it ever be.

achorladey:


The community delusion MightySparrow talks about


JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION has never ever been wrong when any other group is right.

Romans 13:1 = Jehovah and Jesus = Jehovah's Witnesses (wrong)

Romans 13:1 = Governmental authorities = other Christian denominations (right)

Empty boasting as usual

maximumSide will find it hard to believe that there is nothing special about his organization except special community delusion. What annoys me about the organization is their 'embarrassment gospel.' I met a woman in the hospital last Monday, she was telling me she was a witness and was talking about their,'community truth '. I was going to engage her but she looked too sickly. The mentality of closer to God than thou nonsense. If you get close to them, apart from hypocrisy, they don't know that God in the real sense.

MaxInDHouse:


And which organization is performing better than Jehovah's Witnesses?

My friend when it comes to being wrong don't deceive yourself because those claiming the Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong have never for once agreed on scriptural doctrines meaning they're only saying so out of envy.

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION has never ever been wrong when any other group is right. The truth is that after the death of the last apostle John Christianity went into spiritual slavery so by the time Jehovah's Witnesses organization began making research to figure out where the church got things wrong they also didn't get it all correctly at once but for anyone to say the Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong my guy there has never been any religion called "CHURCH" that has been right after the death of the Apostles!

Simple question for you why are your organization called Jehovah witness instead of Jesus witness since Jesus said the early Church will witness for him?

MightySparrow:



I totally agree with your submission .
I was not trying to compare Adeboye with Paul. maximumSide understands. He and his club does not see anything good in any other ministry. In fact, when they bring a character out wether in the past or contemporary times, it to rubbish their works. That is why I made reference to Adeboye. If Adeboye or Kumuyi or any other sneezed, it would be prophecy to them. The other day Pastor Kumuyi said ,in an interview, that God would use our president to better the lot of Nigeria. He was asked by a journalist. The response was Kumuyi has prophesied. I was in Deeper Life before and even now, I have never heard pastor Kumuyi prophesying. Not once especially on media.


However, concerning female pastors, evangelists, and the rest, it is mere nomenclature these days. A Christian music artiste would call herself evangelist. A prophetess would like to use Prophetess XYZ. In some ministries, CAC, for instance, all the biblical offices and nomenclatures are used. In Salvation Army military titles are used . In the early days of Deeper Life, no one went by the title, ' Pastor '. Everyone was 'Bro.'

As I pointed out, there are female ministers of the gospel that stood out with landmark results with mighty manifestations. I mentioned some that I know. It a universal thing. If I cannot understand why? Can I condemn them their works, the Holy Spirit that backed them? Some the ministries they left behind have endured more than a century. If they were wrong, why did God allow it? Deut. 29:29.

I believe that the letter written by Paul to address a particular situation, as good as it was, if other things shows up to be contrary but not destructive. Only God knows why. I belong to a group that believes that God still speaks. If my daughter comes to me and claims that God has called her to pastoral ministry, and God didn't tell me anything, will I go against her conviction? Not at all. That would be her personal truth.

Do I now say that the Holy Spirit in the life of Paul is different from the One now? Not at all. Will the Holy Spirit contradict Himself, let God be true and every man a liar.



Thanks so much brother.

thanks so much for your honest submission, as you have rightly said let God be true and every man a liar.
As Christians we don't believe in having personal truths, it calls for concern for a Christian to have his or her truth. However, I am not saying God can't work mightily through a female, yes God can but however, it does not automatically mean that she is a pastor. Being a pastor is not just a matter of personal desire but that individual must be qualified to be.

Renewedstrength:
Simple question for you why are your organization called Jehovah witness instead of Jesus witness since Jesus said the early Church will witness for him?

That's not the name God had in mind to call all His worshipers from Abel till today {Hebrews 11:4-34} so from the beginning until today the name God called all His worshipers is "Jehovah's Witnesses" {Isaiah 43:10-12} Jesus is the first and most faithful among us! Revelations 1:5

Renewedstrength:

Being a pastor is not just a matter of personal desire but that individual must be qualified to be.

If you believe that Paul is an Apostle of Christ and that his word stands as witness against whoever disagree with what is written in the scriptures i believe that's OK you have made your point clear the idea of calling me "brother" or i calling you "brother" doesn't work in our midst once you are against what is written in the scriptures. Galatians 1:8 compare to 2John 10-11
So i ask you again:

Is Deeperlifer Church right to make a female the head in the presence of baptized males?

If your answer is "YES" then you and i can't relate as brothers but if it's "NO" then we can proceed into other scriptural topics to set matters straight through the lense of the scriptures. 2Timothy 3:16

The idea of acknowledging you when we are not in agreement on scriptural topics is what led to thousands of religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they are Christians today but since Jehovah's Witnesses stands out to condemn such confusion they're all hypocritically criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses.

So if you stand on what the scriptures teaches on this topic then you and i can continue using the scriptures to set matters straight but if not then we must go our separate ways.

Thanks!

achorladey:

The community delusion MightySparrow talks about
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION has never ever been wrong when any other group is right.
Romans 13:1 = Jehovah and Jesus = Jehovah's Witnesses (wrong)
Romans 13:1 = Governmental authorities = other Christian denominations (right)
Empty boasting as usual

MightySparrow:

Wrong Sir. In as much as I appreciate the works and zeal of Jehovah Witnesses, I believe you guys are living in delusion.

Since you people believe we are wrong then it's better we go our separate ways.

I'm of the opinion that there has never been a time when Jehovah's Witnesses organization today was wrong and any other religion is right.

Thanks for your time!

MaxInDHouse:


That's not the name God had in mind to call all His worshipers from Abel till today {Hebrews 11:4-34} so from the beginning until today the name God called all His worshipers is "Jehovah's Witnesses" {Isaiah 43:10-12} Jesus is the first and most faithful among us! Revelations 1:5

Since you use the OT to justify the name of your organisation, why not imbibe Deborah?

OLAADEGBU:

Since you use the OT to justify the name of your organisation, why not imbibe Deborah?

It's not a OT matter but the truth. John 8:32

In the Bible there are faithful people like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Job these are believers in the true God yet they are not ISRAELITES (the name ancient people called worshipers of the only true God)

These generation was followed by faithful Israelites like Joseph, Moses, Joshua, Samson, Gideon, Deborah, Samuel, David and Solomon these are believers in the true God (Israelites but not Jews the name people later called the descendants of the patriarchs till today)

These generation was followed by faithful Jews like Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Nehemiah, Ezra, Zechariah, Hezekiah, Amos, Malachi and others until the day of John the baptist but they weren't followers of Jesus of Nazareth through whom the popular group name "CHRISTIANS" was formed because he claimed he is the CHRIST.

Please from Abel till today which group name befits all these people as one if not the what Isaiah and Paul divinely called them:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?

Read the Bible book of Isaiah 43:10-12 and Hebrews 11:3-12:1

You will notice how the scriptures consistently referred to all servants of God including Jesus of Nazareth under one GROUP name: WITNESSES! Revelations 1:5

The question you need to ask is these:

All these faithful people are WITNESSES of who?

MaxInDHouse:

That's not the name God had in mind to call all His worshipers from Abel till today {Hebrews 11:4-34} so from the beginning until today the name God called all His worshipers is "Jehovah's Witnesses" {Isaiah 43:10-12} Jesus is the first and most faithful among us! Revelations 1:5

Jesus said Christians would be his witness, why are you not called Jesus witness?

MaxInDHouse:

If you believe that Paul is an Apostle of Christ and that his word stands as witness against whoever disagree with what is written in the scriptures i believe that's OK you have made your point clear the idea of calling me "brother" or i calling you "brother" doesn't work in our midst once you are against what is written in the scriptures. Galatians 1:8 compare to 2John 10-11
So i ask you again:

Is Deeperlifer Church right to make a female the head in the presence of baptized males?

If your answer is "YES" then you and i can't relate as brothers but if it's "NO" then we can proceed into other scriptural topics to set matters straight through the lense of the scriptures. 2Timothy 3:16

The idea of acknowledging you when we are not in agreement on scriptural topics is what led to thousands of religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they are Christians today but since Jehovah's Witnesses stands out to condemn such confusion they're all hypocritically criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses.

So if you stand on what the scriptures teaches on this topic then you and i can continue using the scriptures to set matters straight but if not then we must go our separate ways.

Thanks!

I always stand with the scriptures and no deeper life is not right bit however will you also consider that Jehovah witness organization is wrong on many doctrines?

Renewedstrength:
Jesus said Christians would be his witness, why are you not called Jesus witness?

He said Christians will be his witnesses not that they will be called Jesus' WITNESSES that's why his first century Jewish disciples never said they are Jesus' witnesses.

MaxInDHouse:




Since you people believe we are wrong then it's better we go our separate ways.

I'm of the opinion that there has never been a time when Jehovah's Witnesses organization today was wrong and any other religion is right.

Thanks for your time!

Denials, empty boasting, lies and manipulations is what you do here to deceive people. You stated....

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION has never ever been wrong when any other group is right.

This is a lie. Admit it as a lie. They have been wrong many times while others are correct even up till today.

MaxInDHouse:

He said Christians will be his witnesses not that they will be called Jesus' WITNESSES that's why his first century Jewish disciples never said they are Jesus' witnesses.

Another manipulations and lies to deceive.....

Where in Isaiah 43:10 - 12 it was stated that your Jehovah said...... You are Jehovah’s witnesses? Where?

Now that it concerns Jesus it becomes it didn't say they are Jesus' witnesses

Tell us where Jehovah called Christians, Jehovah’s witnesses?

Renewedstrength:
Jesus said Christians would be his witness, why are you not called Jesus witness?

They simply want to look separate from others when initial set up started to break up after the death of Charles Russell.

Renewedstrength:
I always stand with the scriptures and no deeper life is not right bit however will you also consider that Jehovah witness organization is wrong on many doctrines?

You need to be wise spiritually speaking my friend.

For instance mathematics teaches us that 2+2=4
It has been applied billions of times and it's has always worked but imagine someone wants to tell you that 2+2 is never 4 people what should be a wise thing to say to such a person?

Would you just start arguing on the numbers with him or ask him to present a better result?

Likewise in the absence of no better performing group JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are always right!

Look at all these people coming to criticize the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses and try to meditate on one simple question:

Why is it that none of them is bold enough to place their church side by side with Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

The answer is simple. Jesus said the light is what they're running away from {John 3:19} how? They knew that the religion they proclaim will tell a lot about the type of person they are on the inside so they will not tell you the name of their church but keep arguing that Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong.

If they should mention the name of their church instantly a wise person will place such a church side by side with Jehovah's Witnesses organization just as you will do with someone who claimed 2+2 shouldn't be four and try to find out if he has a better result.

Out of all the commentators on this thread the one and only person whose church is known apart from me is OLAADEGBU yet he is scared to place Deeperlife side by side with Jehovah's Witnesses organization.

WHY?

Because i've proved to him countless times that Deeperlife is not even a Christian organization if we have to look through the Act of Apostles which supposed to be the yardstick to measure a true Christian group!

MightySparrow:



maximumSide will find it hard to believe that there is nothing special about his organization except special community delusion. What annoys me about the organization is their 'embarrassment gospel.' I met a woman in the hospital last Monday, she was telling me she was a witness and was talking about their,'community truth '. I was going to engage her but she looked too sickly. The mentality of closer to God than thou nonsense. If you get close to them, apart from hypocrisy, they don't know that God in the real sense.

It is the Jesus didn't promise the slave will give perfect spiritual food they gulp down and use to boast and brag about. They already wrote in their publications that their own good news is different

MaxInDHouse:


It's not a OT matter but the truth. John 8:32

In the Bible there are faithful people like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Job these are believers in the true God yet they are not ISRAELITES (the name ancient people called worshipers of the only true God)

These generation was followed by faithful Israelites like Joseph, Moses, Joshua, Samson, Gideon, Deborah, Samuel, David and Solomon these are believers in the true God (Israelites but not Jews the name people later called the descendants of the patriarchs till today)

These generation was followed by faithful Jews like Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Nehemiah, Ezra, Zechariah, Hezekiah, Amos, Malachi and others until the day of John the baptist but they weren't followers of Jesus of Nazareth through whom the popular group name "CHRISTIANS" was formed because he claimed he is the CHRIST.

Please from Abel till today which group name befits all these people as one if not the what Isaiah and Paul divinely called them:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?

Read the Bible book of Isaiah 43:10-12 and Hebrews 11:3-12:1

You will notice how the scriptures consistently referred to all servants of God including Jesus of Nazareth under one GROUP name: WITNESSES! Revelations 1:5

The question you need to ask is these:

All these faithful people are WITNESSES of who?

Selective reading as usual. You only use the OT when it suits you. Tell me what you know about Deborah and her leadership qualities.

achorladey:

Denials, empty boasting, lies and manipulations is what you do here to deceive people. You stated.... This is a lie. Admit it as a lie. They have been wrong many times while others are correct even up till today.

Please mention one time when Jehovah's Witnesses organization was wrong and the church that was right perhaps you are now a member of that church today!

MaxInDHouse:




Since you people believe we are wrong then it's better we go our separate ways.

I'm of the opinion that there has never been a time when Jehovah's Witnesses organization today was wrong and any other religion is right.

Thanks for your time!

Hahahaha!
Why haven't we parted ways all this time?
Because we are related, and if are related, we shall continue to meet again and again .
Abeg, go and look for amala and gbegiri with nice ogunfe to enjoy your day.

MaxInDHouse:

That's not the name God had in mind to call all His worshipers from Abel till today {Hebrews 11:4-34} so from the beginning until today the name God called all His worshipers is "Jehovah's Witnesses" {Isaiah 43:10-12} Jesus is the first and most faithful among us! Revelations 1:5

This is what happens when the brand a religious organization sell is Jehovah

Your Jehovah said to those listening while he spoke from heaven this is my son listen to him.

When that same son was about leaving this earth he said all authority has been given to him and his last words said you are to be witnesses of me all, over the world.

None of his apostles go about witnessing about Jehovah in the new testament the focus was on Jesus Christ. Rutherford came changed the name and changed the brand of your gospel.


That is the truth you don't want to admit.

If we receive the witness men give, the witness God gives is greater, because this is the witness God gives, the fact that he has borne witness concerning his Son.


Witnesses of Jehovah's organization(Rutherford) is greater than that of Jehovah. Jehovah’s organization = God. You know.

cc FxMasterz, Oteneaaron, Emusan, MightySparrow