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Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 6:54am On Jul 09 |
MaxInDHouse: I have given you an example already you look away as if you didn't see it and came back asking the question as usual to deflect. You stated.... JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION has never ever been wrong when any other group is right. Romans 13:1 = Jehovah and Jesus = Jehovah's Witnesses (wrong) Romans 13:1 = Governmental authorities = other Christian denominations (right) Empty boasting as usual. The above is one in history of your religious organization. Close eyes to it again. 1 Like |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MightySparrow: 6:57am On Jul 09 |
achorladey: They are Rutherford's Witnesses. If they ever witness for Jehovah, it is a false witness. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MightySparrow: 7:03am On Jul 09 |
achorladey: You get it brother. Father witnessed about the Son. The Holy Ghost witnessed through His disciples about the Son. Delusion witness about the Jehovah. In fact, with this revelation, I wish I could change my name here to Christ's Witness. Can you ou see delusion I have been talking about? Delusional Witnesses. ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:08am On Jul 09 |
OLAADEGBU: At times i really admire your sensitivity! Deborah was a judge in Israel that position is like someone who is handling judicial matters but now we are talking about sacred service in the spiritual temple which belongs only to the males. So while the high priest is the one leading the people in worship Deborah only sit to judge matters having to do with cases outside the temple arrangement. |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 7:10am On Jul 09 |
Renewedstrength: Is it necessary for a women to look for a man to pastor over her in a case where just two women is the church here? Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit. Now going by your pastor thing.... So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Some will say this goes in order..... Apostles, Prophets before pastor. All this legislation and legalisms stifle the essence of those gifts in the first place which is to..... people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ Whatever is to be done as a man or woman do it as to God not to men. It allows free flow of the spirit. |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 7:11am On Jul 09 |
MaxInDHouse: You don't understand what you are typing. Judicial matter that is life and death is not a sacred service to God ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:12am On Jul 09 |
achorladey: Please try to expatiate on Romans 13:1 so that we can all learn from your observation. From my own opinion no other organization best applied Romans 13:1 better than Jehovah's Witnesses but since you have a contrary opinion please let me know how any other church applied it better. Thanks! |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:15am On Jul 09 |
achorladey: Sacred service has to do with the temple but judicial matters is outside the temple! ![]() |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 7:18am On Jul 09 |
MaxInDHouse: Sacred service goes way beyond outside the temple or any building. John 4: Jesus said to her: “Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews. Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth. It goes beyond the temple. Your mind didn't tell you your observing God's commandment of loving him and neighbour is part of sacred service to God and it is not done in the temple alone ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MightySparrow: 7:28am On Jul 09 |
Renewedstrength: Beautiful, what are the qualifications? |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:30am On Jul 09 |
achorladey: Please pardon my manners, i've forgotten that i'm chatting with a none JW. In ancient Israel the temple is a place where people gather to worship spiritually speaking the Christian congregation meetings today is a spiritual temple not the building anymore! So just as only males officiates in the old temple arrangement Jesus made sure that only males officiates in the spiritual temple too that's why he never chose a single female when he called all his disciples together. |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by Renewedstrength(m): 7:35am On Jul 09 |
MaxInDHouse:same way Jehovah never said anyone will be called Jehovah witness. Do you know the meaning of Christians? Why were they called Christians and not Jehovah Witnesses? |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 7:41am On Jul 09 |
MaxInDHouse: Sacred service goes way beyond outside the temple. |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 7:46am On Jul 09 |
MaxInDHouse: Sacred service then and now goes beyond what is done inside the temple. Chatting with a Jehovah's Witnesses or none Jehovah's Witnesses has nothing to do with that 1 Like |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by FxMasterz: 7:52am On Jul 09 |
achorladey: Thanks for enlightening Maxindhouse. These JWs have done all their best in an attempt to bastardize the Word of God but they couldn't. This is the reason why I choose to call them JWs instead of 'Jehovah Witnesses'. They clearly do not witness for 'Jehovah' but for their cult. Jehovah does not need any witnesses, "For His invisible attributes, namely, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made." Jehovah already has everything witnessing for Him. He doesn't need Maxindhouse or his cult to do that. Jesus Christ needs witnesses because not everyone is aware of the works He accomplished on the cross. In Acts 1:8, Christ said: "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me (not unto Jehovah) both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth." The JW movement is lying movement that prophesied Christ's coming in 1874, 1878 and 1914 in deceit and in blatant disregard of Christ's warning that His second coming can not be pre-announced because it will be a sudden event. Christ said His coming will be as clear as thunder strike that could be seen by everyone, the lying witnesses said He has come in an invisible fashion as a mighty spirit King. The liars didn't stop at that in their lying witnessing, they said Christ started ruling in heaven in 1914, deliberately lying against Jesus Christ whose rulership has been described in scriptures before Russel himself was born: "But to the Son He says: Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. " Hebrews 1:8. Can we ever exhaust the many lies of these Lying Witnesses'? 2 Likes |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 7:55am On Jul 09 |
MaxInDHouse: Romans 13:1 = Jehovah and Jesus = Jehovah's Witnesses (wrong). Romans 13:1 = Governmental authorities = other Christian denominations (right). |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:56am On Jul 09 |
Renewedstrength:JEHOVAH hid that name from Satan and all his agents otherwise they would have stolen that GROUP name long ago. But in the year 1931 when pure worship was restored among the International Bible Students Association Jehovah began calling His people by the hidden group name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15 Renewedstrength:Christians are followers of the first century young Jewish carpenter who later became a teacher and claimed he is the CHRIST. For years Jews were calling his disciples "people belonging to the WAY" {Act 9:2; 22:4} because their leader called himself "the WAY" {John 14:6} later unbelieving Jews in Antioch started calling them "CHRISTIANS" to demean them {Act 11:26} it was like saying they will all suffer and die miserably like their leader who claimed he is the CHRIST but Jesus disciples claimed it with joy! Act 5:41 compare to Hebrews 11:24-25 Renewedstrength:The name was to be revealed in our own time as the GROUP NAME for all worshipers of God from Abel till today! 1Peter 1:12 compare to Isaiah 65:15 |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:02am On Jul 09 |
achorladey:YES! Outside the temple males and females can pray to God on their own each performing what God commanded but when it comes to taking the lead inside the temple only males were chosen to officiate! ![]() |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by Renewedstrength(m): 8:03am On Jul 09 |
achorladey:I Timothy said a woman should not usurp authority over a man, meaning Paul is speaking of when a qualified man is present. Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.Are you saying that anyone who is not a pastor is not part of God's household? I am not sure why you brought this text. Now going by your pastor thing....It is not my pastor thing.. I don't see how this actually prove anything. Some will say this goes in order.....No it is not legalism, legalism is when one depends on works to be saved. Just as God is holy, God is also a God of order. Yes Apotles comes first before prophet and them pastors. The reason is that prophets speaks directly from God while the apostles establishes doctrines for the church. 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. It is actually the other way round the holy Spirit does not flows well in a church that is not in order. |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:05am On Jul 09 |
achorladey: It's like you don't get what i'm saying here! ![]() JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION claim they are obeying what was written in the Bible book of Romans 13:1 So instead of just asserting that they are wrong why not present a PRACTICAL APPLICATION of that verse and let's know the church that best applied it in line with the scriptures? ![]() |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:10am On Jul 09 |
Renewedstrength: Hmmmmmmmmmm, i'm already seeing one of the lost sheep of the house of faith in action! Matthew 10:6 ![]() Well tell them that it's compulsory for true believers in Christ to have the same line of thought regarding organizational arrangement {John 17 :22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} then you and i can resolve what and where the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses got things wrong and the church that got it right! ![]() |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by Renewedstrength(m): 8:14am On Jul 09 |
MightySparrow: Titus 1:6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. 1:7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; 1:8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate; 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. 2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 1 Tim 3:1-7 |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:21am On Jul 09 |
Renewedstrength: Haaaaaaaaaaa! See trouble! Ọmọ if you're not one of those desiring to be pastors i can confidently say about you that JEHOVAH has caught you o and there's no escape. Let's see how you won't become one of Jehovah's Witnesses with what i'm seeing now! ![]() |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 8:27am On Jul 09 |
Renewedstrength: Fine I Timothy said a woman should not usurp authority over a man, meaning Paul is speaking of when a qualified man is present Key: qualified man is present. In other words women can pastor and are pastor. This is where I am heading. Are you saying that anyone who is not a pastor is not part of God's household? I am not sure why you brought this text. Nothing in that account says anyone not a pastor is not part of God's household. Emphasis on the foundation of God's household. It is not my pastor thing.. Your anything wrong here should include women being pastors presence or absence of men No it is not legalism, legalism is when one depends on works to be saved. Legalism is making laws on what is not to legislated since where the spirit of God operate there is freedom. Just as God is holy, God is also a God of order. Does not mean God can create disorder to accomplish his purpose. Division and disorder have its benefits Yes Apotles comes first before prophet and them pastors. The reason is that prophets speaks directly from God while the apostles establishes doctrines for the church. I don't know what I should make of this explanation. Both are called and sent by God to speak and both establish so many things. 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Does not means division and disorder by God don't have benefit. The gifts given are divided or different all geared towards the same purpose. It is actually the other way round the holy Spirit does not flows well in a church that is not in ordered. You stifle the spirit in the face of legalisms and regimentation because not all things you see as being orderly are really in order. |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 8:31am On Jul 09 |
MaxInDHouse: In the space of under 24 hours.... JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION has never ever been wrong when any other group is right. To JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION claim they are obeying what was written in the Bible book of Romans 13: Then... So instead of just asserting that they are wrong why not present a PRACTICAL APPLICATION of that verse You see how jump around here and there when your lies and manipulations get exposed ![]() ![]() You are lost in your lies and manipulations. 1 Like |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 8:35am On Jul 09 |
Renewedstrength: Qualification of Bishop ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 8:38am On Jul 09 |
MaxInDHouse: Same person you used style to corner about your wrong believes ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:39am On Jul 09 |
achorladey: Can you just explain how Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong in their application of Romans 13:1? ![]() I won't like to remind you of what that young man said about your always yarning off point: CJStarz: So instead of this incoherent comments just go straight to what makes Jehovah's Witnesses application of Romans 13:1 wrong and which church is applying it correctly! ![]() |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 8:40am On Jul 09 |
MaxInDHouse: See the person that says sacred service is done only inside the temple ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Learn, no way. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:40am On Jul 09 |
achorladey: Ọmọ park go one side i'm excited now it's like i've found one of Jehovah's Witnesses outside the organization! ![]() |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 8:42am On Jul 09 |
MaxInDHouse: Because you like jumping here and there someone said you don't have a brain. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by achorladey: 8:43am On Jul 09 |
MaxInDHouse: Console yourself don't go about insulting the it's like when he exposes your lies and manipulations ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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