LordAdam16:


You're making my point for me.
If you're going to eat a frog, eat a big one.
If you're going to cheat, best be with a model.

It's politics. I get it. Everyone is in it to win.
So why not Haley?
Haley is a slam dunk. Whatever the argument is about the viability of Vance, Haley is a far more logical pick.

You can't use Neocon as a negative epithet when Vance is a Yale Venture Capitalist.

-Lord

Laurene:
Bush won Ohio by 2 points in 2004 while the senate candidate won by 27 points.

Tim Ryan is a seasoned career politician, incumbent congressman and the second strongest candidate in Ohio that ran as an actual moderate in a year that republicans were put in the bullseye on abortion.
He may not add much to the ticket but he creates a great contrast to Trump's age factor and is a heir to the ticket in 2028 which is better than throwing it open by then... He also insures that populism doesn't die after Trump

Kamala Harris called Biden racist and said she actually believed her accuser in Tara Reade yet Biden chose her as running mate.

Most on the list are all opportunitists and potential backstabbers (perhaps except for Carson)... Who should Trump have chosen instead?

Kamala Harris is an Californian extremist and a weirdo but it didn't matter.
Voters view Biden unfavorable and this election would continue to be about his age and policies and not Vance's regardless.

Vance actually won a real race while Oz lost (though I don't blame for it at all) though the dynamics is different.
The downballot candidates opponents were meh and literally unknown and underfunded but the senate was top tier and heavily funded... So don't compare Vance with Oz.
Vance is an actual Ohioan and not some carpetbagger from New Jersey.

With this the deep state wouldn't want Vance in power and that assassination insurance

I love the ticket! Such a masterclass by Trump!

LordAdam16:
You're making my point for me.
If you're going to eat a frog, eat a big one.
If you're going to cheat, best be with a model.

It's politics. I get it. Everyone is in it to win.
So why not Haley?
Haley is a slam dunk. Whatever the argument is about the viability of Vance, Haley is a far more logical pick.

You can't use Neocon as a negative epithet when Vance is a Yale Venture Capitalist.

-Lord

LordAdam16:


You're making my point for me.
If you're going to eat a frog, eat a big one.
If you're going to cheat, best be with a model.

It's politics. I get it. Everyone is in it to win.
So why not Haley?
Haley is a slam dunk. Whatever the argument is about the viability of Vance, Haley is a far more logical pick.

You can't use Neocon as a negative epithet when Vance is a Yale Venture Capitalist.

-Lord

Laurene:
Talk about electability

feedthenation:


---Can someone please post a link to one single piece of legislation bearing Senator Vance's "mark"?---

bemeruca:


We are waiting for Saturday when Biden will fake assassination attempt just to cancel out the new voters trump just secured.

Some people want us to believe that indictment can make Trump more popular with voters but not an attempt by a lib to assassinate him. Trump 2024. I wish I could vote.

Laurene:
Bush won Ohio by 2 points in 2004 while the senate candidate won by 27 points.

Tim Ryan is a seasoned career politician, incumbent congressman and the second strongest candidate in Ohio that ran as an actual moderate in a year that republicans were put in the bullseye on abortion.
He may not add much to the ticket but he creates a great contrast to Trump's age factor and is a heir to the ticket in 2028 which is better than throwing it open by then... He also insures that populism doesn't die after Trump

Kamala Harris called Biden racist and said she actually believed her accuser in Tara Reade yet Biden chose her as running mate.

Most on the list are all opportunitists and potential backstabbers (perhaps except for Carson)... Who should Trump have chosen instead?

Kamala Harris is an Californian extremist and a weirdo but it didn't matter.
Voters view Biden unfavorable and this election would continue to be about his age and policies and not Vance's regardless.

Vance actually won a real race while Oz lost (though I don't blame for it at all) though the dynamics is different.
The downballot candidates opponents were meh and literally unknown and underfunded but the senate was top tier and heavily funded... So don't compare Vance with Oz.
Vance is an actual Ohioan and not some carpetbagger from New Jersey.

With this the deep state wouldn't want Vance in power and that assassination insurance

I love the ticket! Such a masterclass by Trump!

raumdeuter:


Haley has said far worse things about Trump in the course of her campaign than JD.

Before JD went to Yale, he was from the interior of the rust belt and his story resonates with many poor people. That is a proper grass to grace story

Nikki is for all wars which is against what Trump. Nikki is not as young as JD, she is 13yrs older

ijebosb:


You can't use Neocon as a negative epithet when Vance's mentor is Peter Thiel and Netanyahu used to sleep in Trump's son in law's Bedroom when he visited NY.
But you also assume they know what a neocon is.

LordAdam16:




I was going to respond line by line; but I've made my main concerns clear and have gone on the record as being displeased by this pick.

Time to close ranks and pull out all the stops to return Trump to 1600 Penn Ave.

-Lord

AmazonTopaz:

Lol, nobody who was not voting for Trump will vote for him now because he was shot. His shooting (he was hit by a glass anyway) does not change the fact that project 2025 will happen if he wins, Roe v Wade is gone, the shooting is even an oppprtunity for dems to talk about gun control which Republicans hate to talk about. Biden is going to win stop dooming. Trump and his base don't have the numbers to win.

Laurene:
Talk about electability

LordAdam16:


Pence was chosen to pacify the Evangelicals.
Vance is being touted as a vote magnet in the Rust Belt.

Apples to Oranges.

-Lord

ijebosb:


Just because I like history.
Roosevelt was the last President that was shot while running for Election. He was shot, saved by the speech he had in his pocket. And with the bullet still in his chest delivered his speech for 90 minutes. He later lost the Election.


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LordAdam16:


Pence was chosen to pacify the Evangelicals.
Vance is being touted as a vote magnet in the Rust Belt.

Apples to Oranges.

-Lord

Laurene:
Remember Pence was was called a bad pick, an extreme christofascist.
Somewhat incompetent... that failed to contain the HIV pandemic in his state.

Let's not act like he was given an all round applause

feedthenation:



---Choosing JD Vance as the VP nominee demonstrates that Trump hasn't learned from his previous mistake of selecting a senator who needs to be replaced---when Trump appointed Sessions as Attorney General, his Senate seat eventually went to a Democrat Warnock---Given the narrow margin of JD Vance's Ohio Senate seat, picking another senator who will need to be replaced suggests Trump is a slow political learner---this decision could easily allow Democrats to convert the slim majority into a win, giving them control of the US Senate---

LordAdam16:


All Trump picks are going to be playing defense from Day 1.
That comes with the territory.

Pence was a silver bullet. He laid a lot of concerns to rest for a nominee that was still a wildcard at the time.
Trump is not an unknown anymore. He desperately needs help in the Midwest and amongst white suburban women.

Let me put this way, in 2016, it was either Pence or an actual cleric.
Today, there are way better choices than Vance who check the "win at all cost" box.

-Lord

ijebosb:
Trump's shooter's house had pro Trump signs in the yard.

"There absolutely was Maga supporting things for a while" - Neighbor
https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/1812991030264013091

basilico:


Twitter fools some of whom have been fired because of their support for the shooter are your sources.
You are worse than a retard.
Trump ear injury come from shattered pieces of glass of the protective bullet proof shield infront of him? Do you have a video showing that, whether it's AI generated. You are downplaying someone who took a bullet from crazed Marxists.
You are just pathetic.
I think mods should ban every username of yours forever.

basilico:
Shooter ID'd as Thomas Matthew Crooks, an antifa supporter. He is 20 years old.

ijebosb:


Take your meds. You're sounding deranged again.

This fool said twitter, when I linked an interview of a Neighbor saying she saw MAGA flags in their lawn. An interview that was aired on local TV. Local as in US local.
Coincidentally fits in with the shooters already known profile. Gun nut, wore hunting gear, dad bought him an AR-15, was a conservative, hung out with other people who wore Trump hats.

Ask yourself why you are having an emotional reaction to the fact the shooter was most likely a MAGA Republican.
Look how nutty you act here, I can easily see you doing the same.

basilico:


Let's get this on record. Confirm please
The shooter was a die hard republican.
We shall revisit your confirmation days , months or years later.
Just confirm he was a republican.That simple.

You can also confirm Trump's ear was not hit by a bullet but broken shards of the protective bullet proof shield infront of him. Confirm this pic is fake

ijebosb:


I posted what I posted. The reports say he was a Republican. New facts may come out. But from all the known facts now, he was a conservative.
You've been fanning the flames that he is an Antifa Democrat with nothing but Bullshit since this happened.

bemeruca:


Because you are the dumb idiot people talk about.

Desperately posting lies and nonsense.
If you want to be relevant, do it the right way.
You are ignored

ijebosb:


Choke on it.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-shooter-thomas-matthew-crooks-parents-republican-b2580370.html

bemeruca:


And Steven Spielberg's daughter is a porn star.


So smart 😂😂😂😂😂
This is why budaatum calls you dumbo, Raum calls you dumbo

kkins25:


They have the numbers. It's almost 50/50. The ball is in the court of the neutral folks now. With that picture trending all over the world, the media trying to dismiss the shooting, i think elections are in trumps hands. Just came from reddit and have never seen liberals ridicule the media this much.. With many acknowledging that trump made a bold move.... Glass or not, most folks would have shat their pants!