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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 5:04pm On Jul 16 |
monerozi5590: The goal keeper and defenders makes a team outscore their opponent. After all, they are the ones defending the attackers goals. There's a reason it is called a team, everybody do their job to ensure they achieve a win. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by monerozi5590: 5:07pm On Jul 16 |
swiz123: What's beyond goalscoring in football? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Omoluabi16(m): 5:07pm On Jul 16 |
So Julian Alvarez wants to do a Cole palmer.. Well, they say fortune favours the brave. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 5:07pm On Jul 16 |
monerozi5590: it was nice engaging with you too. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by monerozi5590: 5:11pm On Jul 16 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 5:13pm On Jul 16 |
monerozi5590: Nothing. Because scoring is a team effort. That goal scorer you are hailing should go to Burnley and score 30 goals. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 5:26pm On Jul 16 |
ThierryJay:Harry Kane renders your made up average law useless. Messi doesn't have more trophies than Ronaldo just solely on his individual ability. If it was solely on individual ability Kane wont have zero trophies while someone like Vardy is on 2. They are many factors contributing to a players trophy count. It's weird you will even bring it up when it's irrelevant. We can all play your games. If 2 goals and 3 assists means 5 goals then 2 gold and 3 silver means 5 medals. You have actually not added anything new to the argument. Assists and goals are not rated the same likewise gold and silver in the Olympic. Why are you arguing against such a simple thing. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by monerozi5590: 5:30pm On Jul 16 |
swiz123: Thanks sir. I like Messi but Ronaldo is the greatest goal scorer of all time. He has done it wherever he goes since his debut at Man U. Real Madrid, Juventus and currently doing it at All Nassr. Ronaldo is a one man army. Diego Someone said it well. Ronaldo will fit in very well with normal players but Messi needs extraordinary players around him to excel. Even at Burnley, Ronaldo will still score goals. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 5:44pm On Jul 16 |
raumdeuter:sesko and scamaca. The strikers airmark recommended vigorously to the board 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 5:54pm On Jul 16 |
Kimbeast: Absolute balderdash. An exception can never nullify an "averages" law, rather it reinforces it. I will suggest you educate yourself on what the concept means. Mention any other players in Kane's bucket. If you have an elite player, sooner or later an elite club will snap him up and then the trophies will roll in over time. It's a fact of football. Messi produced the highest G/A of all players in history (not sure of Pele's record though). He has the highest number of trophies in history. There is a direct correlation regardless of the other variables. Without Messi's G/A, Barca would not have won as many trophies they've won and neither would Argentina have. 5 goals for a football team has the same impact, whether 3 goals and 2 assists or 5 goals from a penalty spot by a single player. The 8 goals Spain scored in 2010 had the impact of winning them the WC. The source of the 8 goals is secondary so long as the entire team could produce the 8 goals at those points. To an athletics team, 2 gold and 3 silver is not as important as 5 gold medals, but 2 goals and 3 assists in football carries the same weight as 5 goals for the team (that you cannot see this distinction is baffling and frankly tiring). The objective of football is from a team's perspective and not a single player. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 6:48pm On Jul 16 |
hensben:A good player thrives in any system? So Messi should play RB and you'll see how many goals his team will drink from his wing. You people should not be saying these things. Change the name to Wharton or Gallagher and nobody will watch the role they are playing for England and try to define them off stats. I have asked for Mainoo's stat but nobody has replied because he went 006. Guess what? He had CREATIVE assignment against Spain in that first half while Foden was assigned to chase Rodri around. Foden's not at Messi's level but imagine a coach assigning Messi to make sure Kroos or Casemiro don't receive the ball in their comfortable positions. You've reduced his output by 90% when you do that. No coach worth his salt asks his so-called creative player to guard the opps most important player. Only a fool will. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 6:53pm On Jul 16 |
Leyqute:E pain me as the just do that nonsense. After the winning goal, na there I know say Lastgate have nothing to offer. E reach for everybody to vex aside Bellingham. Southgate can't just be expecting to drag games to PKs everytime to save him |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 6:54pm On Jul 16 |
Jodera:If you know the moments where he received the ball in his sweet spot, please provide links or a timestamp so we can analyze. If Mount or Gallagher can supposedly play the role, why not play them there? You think I am agitating for Foden to always start? No. I only said to use him in his natural position and build around him. I said England are more likely to win anything that way. The team was not built around Foden. In fact, England had been "benching" him in past tournaments abi? Even Chelsea fans said Palmer is better right? So Chelsea should win major titles like England have been doing since 1966 abi? Exactly. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 6:56pm On Jul 16 |
monerozi5590:Lol... I don't even need to go far to guardiola sef. Give this coach to Howe and I'm very sure they'll produce more than what they're producing. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 6:57pm On Jul 16 |
hensben:That's not an excuse? LOL. Should Foden take the ball from Pickford and dribble everybody before scoring? Who was he supposed to depend on for the ball? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 7:05pm On Jul 16 |
Trevor012: Messi is a different breed and story. That Walker doesn't deserve to be there doesn't mean their Olmo, Musiala, Rodri and co that's there doesn't deserve to be there. I only criticized Walker inclusion, the rest was right 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 7:05pm On Jul 16 |
hensben:In the midst of some of your good analysis, you throw in minor bones that are not only indigestible but simply half-baked. Palmer passed a simple ball to Watkins BECAUSE Watkins will make the run which Harry Kane would not. You ignore Watkins, and praise Palmer saying Saka and Foden will not make the pass when I can show you Foden make those passes 4 times in the past 2 seasons to both Haaland and KDB. Palmer scored a goal? Good effort. He replaced Mainoo after Southgate had CHANGED formation. Did you ask yourself why Palmer was in that position and not RW like Saka? What position was Foden playing at the time? What about Jude? These are the type of questions anyone watching the game critically will ask or have answers to. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 7:06pm On Jul 16 |
Melvyn11:Quoting for posterity. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 7:08pm On Jul 16 |
Realtord43:Don't sweat it. A DM with 27 goal contributions and many winner's medals where Modric had 12 goal contributions and a finalist medal? People will cry here and I'd laugh because the ojoro of the past has come home to roost. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 7:09pm On Jul 16 |
Jodera:As long as you criticize one you criticize all. Ask people here to make their own first eleven and each and every one of them will be different. Same with Rodri as MVP. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 7:09pm On Jul 16 |
popizaino:Wigan CAN also beat City but nobody makes analysis based on an unlikely event right? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 7:10pm On Jul 16 |
Android17: Well, everything just boils down to a good coach. Thank goodness Southgate is out now. I'll be looking forward to the new coach and see how he'll gel all these players |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 7:12pm On Jul 16 |
kingBolton: It’s weird, right? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:12pm On Jul 16 |
raumdeuter: Shoplifter. Euros 2020 final - Chiellini lifted the trophy after playing fantastic football in full time, to help his team secure the win. Euros 2024 final - Morata lifted the trophy after getting bundled out at 68th minute for being useless and his replacement scored the winning goal. Morata is a trophy thief. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 7:13pm On Jul 16 |
Vischy:All these commonsense you are applying. Don't you know it is not accepted here? International trophies were important until some RM players did not win it. Same person who was pretending to be neutral is championing the Bellingham rubbish much more than Madridstas but he has no agenda. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 7:14pm On Jul 16 |
airmark:Where's Upamenonsense, Rice,Van Dijk and the other players you were famzin? Trial and error scout isonu. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 7:15pm On Jul 16 |
Trevor012:There'll be some semblance. Ask any random people here and I'm sure Rodri, Fabian, Yamal, Nico will be in their team. You can't because of Walker say those people are wrong to be there. And that's how it is for Messi |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 7:17pm On Jul 16 |
Jodera:Will any of the eleven be the same? That's the Koko. Unlike Golden boot, there's no rigging or mago mago involved. 😁 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 7:18pm On Jul 16 |
Bluemann una still wan carry Gabriel mec after Estevao? Which kind club una be sef? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 7:19pm On Jul 16 |
Capaldi: If true, England might win a trophy soon. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:20pm On Jul 16 |
Android17: So them Saka and Palmer take ball from Pickford before them score. Go sit down one place jare. No goal no assist in 7 matches. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by oliverano: 7:22pm On Jul 16 |
Android17: I'll like to hear names pls 🙏🙏....
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