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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godstime001: 8:28am
Android17:
I am not defending Foden. If he was England's 10 with the team built around him and he failed, I'd pile on him. Just like I never let the nonsense spoken about Rodri stand when he was played as a CB. That time La Liga fans claimed Rodri was inferior to Busquets as the reason he was being played in an unnatural position. Remember that Spain? Yeah, losing for fun and being lackluster.

They've moved Rodri back to CDM and he is getting ballon d'or chants while Spain look like world beaters.

I even said, if Southgate had no plans to use Foden effectively. He should not be started. I already knew England won't win shii without him because he is currently their best player.

My argument for Foden is, nobody expected Rice and Mainoo to have any stats for not being advanced but then insist Foden must have those stats playing in an unnadvanced position. The logic is not computing.
But still didn't win shii with him. Why must special care be given to Foden? Players like Palmer ,Jude were played anywhere but they turn out fine. I think Hensben is kind of right. Foden is a system player.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 9:57am
Godstime001:
But still didn't win shii with him. Why must special care be given to Foden? Players like Palmer ,Jude were played anywhere but they turn out fine. I think Hensben is kind of right. Foden is a system player.
They did not win without him. You're yet to see if they'll win with him. Ronaldo was in Brazil's worldcup squad in 1994 but nobody attributes the trophy to him. Foden didn't have an important role.

No Palmer was brought on as an impact player, so England were reacting when he came on which means they were being motivated to attack. They started many games defending.

Jude did not play well. You are either excited by the stats or the hype around the stats. If you believe he played well it is your cup of tea. He did not. The majority agree.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 9:58am
BlueAngel444:
your logic is an obvious error na, what nonsense is unadvanced position.

Foden that doesn't defend in city became a defender in England in your eyes, it goes to show you are blind, he only dropped deep to pick up the ball and run forward with it, was dispossessed so many things that he could be called a defensive error.

Your city isn't even built around Foden yet you want England to be built upon sand, well Southgate tried and they sank. Foden is the real reason England lost the euros, he was so useless he made others around him useless. From entering their position like a confused positionless player, to inability to properly pick a pass. I guess passes to moving players isn't a strong point.

People talk about Haaland's drop off, well the difference is Foden and Haaland may have possibly been helping him. Even before the euros there were those who felt city's best player was Rodri not Foden.

You are now telling us that Foden is a CDM abi. will you shut up there, even Bellingham that dropped deep to defend alot of times still had way way more impact that frauden Flopden foden
City built around Foden this last season with Erling and KDB out. He delivered the 4th EPL tile that no other great team had been able to achieve.

And I did not say Foden was a defender or a defensive player. But that Gareth gave him a difficult assignment knowing Spain would have more of the ball and Rodri would have the most of it [for Spain].

The summary is, Foden got the job of Belling the cat. He was dealt a bad hand. I won't expect Messi to score all the goals he scored in history if he was just a winger. Do you agree?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 10:04am
BlueAngel444:

Let me reply you well, who gives a 10 that kind of assignment?

It wasn't given to Manioo and Rice who were midfielders, right. The reason is because Foden was useless in attack. Even Saka that play RWB didn't man mark anyone even Nico and had more input going forward.

You think everyone relies on data, you came here and mentioned one single instance of Bellingham being forward and claimed he played much of the game forward.

You are man marking Rodri when Ruiz is even more deadly at the other end. Wetin D man marking achieve. He failed both as an attacker and as a man-marker. And he failed to form injury so as to leave early that may have been his biggest contribution if he did that.
England's best performance of the tournament coincided with Foden's best game. The logic should tell you how important he could have been if used properly. You are here trying to be this savage troll but you are failing at it - badly.

Forget that nonsense on whoscored and whatnot. Saka was not a RWB. He was a RW who just had to defend because Spain had more of the ball. Lol. Stop reading into the hype. You guys bore me.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godstime001: 10:13am
Android17:
They did not win without him. You're yet to see if they'll win with him. Ronaldo was in Brazil's worldcup squad in 1994 but nobody attributes the trophy to him. Foden didn't have an important role.

No Palmer was brought on as an impact player, so England were reacting when he came on which means they were being motivated to attack. They started many games defending.

Jude did not play well. You are either excited by the stats or the hype around the stats. If you believe he played well it is your cup of tea. He did not. The majority agree.
Leave all these many Beating about the bush. Once u re a player that they need to tweak the team for u, that shows u are a system player. Especially when it done for you to play well. We don't hear all these many shalaye when Jude or Palmer is involved.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by akwesenana: 10:29am
This niccur don dey explain for over 2 weeks now.

Foden flopped at the Euros and that's it, finito!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vischy: 10:51am
Gucciboy:


This is fucking cold,I can't stop laughing so I decided to put it in letters. grin grin grin grin grin


foden is going to score a hattrick against Ipswich town in 2 weeks time and people will say he's the best English talent since rooney.



COPIED

We will know the real foden, the kind of stuff the best English talent since roony is made of when pep finally leaves. It's really goona fun 😁 grin grin cheesy grin grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:39am
akwesenana:
This niccur don dey explain for over 2 weeks now.

Foden flopped at the Euros and that's it, finito!!
It's just difficult for him to accept 😂😂

Your boy dropped an 007 when every other attacker had a contribution. Even Toney scored a shootout pen.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 11:53am
Android17:
England's best performance of the tournament coincided with Foden's best game. The logic should tell you how important he could have been if used properly. You are here trying to be this savage troll but you are failing at it - badly.

Forget that nonsense on whoscored and whatnot. Saka was not a RWB. He was a RW who just had to defend because Spain had more of the ball. Lol. Stop reading into the hype. You guys bore me.
troll? Noo, you are already a pretty good troll. Build England around Foden you said, isn't that what Southgate did and cost him the euros, ain't you trolling by saying in agreement that only when he played well did England play well. So he was the reason they prayed rubbish 90% of the time.

Saka was a RW but he had more defensively contribution than frauden that u claim was given manmarking duties. Continue o, continue oga troll

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 12:00pm
Android17:
City built around Foden this last season with Erling and KDB out. He delivered the 4th EPL tile that no other great team had been able to achieve.

And I did not say Foden was a defender or a defensive player. But that Gareth gave him a difficult assignment knowing Spain would have more of the ball and Rodri would have the most of it [for Spain].

The summary is, Foden got the job of Belling the cat. He was dealt a bad hand. I won't expect Messi to score all the goals he scored in history if he was just a winger. Do you agree?
Haaland and KDB out yet they both lead goal and assists for city abi. It means Foden is a complete waste of minutes at city na. Frauden the delivery man, after others have cook finish na delivery be him job abi.

Southgate gave him the assignment because he is useless in attack and FA probably forced him to play him

If I didn't watch Flopden in euros I would still be rating him top10 AM but seeing players like Xavi Simons that someone here was telling me he is better, I finally agree. Frauden is almost 25 and has been hyped since he was a teen only for him to turn to a DAM-defensive attacking midfielder even Oscar that Mou used no bad reach like that.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by drisham(m): 12:11pm
andrewbaba44:
As much as I follow call out foden due to his performance at the euros , you people that are still dragging him should enjoy it while it last ,once proper club football resumes there will be nothing to drag about him because he will always deliver there

Players like Vinicius have always been bad for his national team ,but he is always getting away with it because he plays for Madrid ,Lmao

Everyone knows foden is a good player and Is going to hit 20+ G/A this season


But he is NOT England best ever talent


Not even the best in this current England squad

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by drisham(m): 12:15pm
Unlimited22:

It's just difficult for him to accept 😂😂

Your boy dropped an 007 when every other attacker had a contribution. Even Toney scored a shootout pen.

I tire bro
Take your L and move on

All this man marking Rodri/CDM talk no follow
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:17pm
BlueAngel444:
Tyle Adams to miss start of season again due to injury, who be that person that time way want make Chelsea sign am unto say him cheap and him dey run around well 🤔

Lavia dey the same boat
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlewMahn: 1:10pm
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 1:28pm
let me summarize the issue on Chelsea GK situation ,Sanchez is hard to sell hence petrovic is the scapegoat.


maresca doesn't trust Sanchez.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 1:33pm
Android17:
They did not win without him. You're yet to see if they'll win with him. Ronaldo was in Brazil's worldcup squad in 1994 but nobody attributes the trophy to him. Foden didn't have an important role.

No Palmer was brought on as an impact player, so England were reacting when he came on which means they were being motivated to attack. They started many games defending.

Jude did not play well. You are either excited by the stats or the hype around the stats. If you believe he played well it is your cup of tea. He did not. The majority agree.
Foden has being playing below par for England since he debut, he didn’t deserve to start ahead of Palmer in the just concluded euro it South Gate knew what he was doing. Argentine coach Benched Martinez for Alvarez in 2022 wc due to poor performance, he didn’t look at his club’s form before doing that. I repeat no sensible coach bench an X factor player like Palmer for underperforming Foden, most media personality and fans massively faulted this, one of the reason he quit his job because the criticism was too much for him. He tried by reaching the final according to England’s standard but that act alone looked like it was purposely being done because it was too obvious Foden was contributing little to nothing in the offensive phase. With Palmer, Kane won’t see the need to falling deep into the midfield all the time. England mostly dominated possession in their games but no attacking bite so it is the Job of the coach to play your best at the time like the way Argentine coach did it with Martinez and Alvarez. Same Palmer that played 43 games for Chelsea last season with 30 plus goals and assist deserve to start, he is not 16 but 22. Yamal, a 17 year old started all games for Spain. It’s all about talent, impact and effectiveness. Foden was supposed to benched so as to see the game from bench which would’ve also help him because he always look lost while playing for England which make him a system player tailor made by pep’s tactics.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 1:47pm
Android17:
Utter nonsense my good friend. Foden was playing the pivot with Declan Rice even if the formation drafted had him appear advanced. That is why it is good to watch games rather than rely on data that always needs some context. Foden was assigned to mark Rodri. Who gives a 10 that type of assignment? Yea, because he was not a 10. Foden played 10 twice. A double 10 against Switzerland and the more advanced 10 against Netherlands.

In the second half against Spain, Foden moved back to LM as Southgate changed formation again. When he took Mainoo off, it was for Palmer. How can you claim Jude was playing Mainoo's position when he is in the box to receive Saka's pass with Watkins in the penalty area as well and Foden on the left. Why do you think Palmer was in that position to kick the ball? Are you claiming Mainoo would have been in that position where Jude was if he was still playing? grin

You people should be watching the games. Stop relying on isolated data that you cannot interpret.
Bro your football knowledge is wack. The fact that Jude took Maino’s place doesn’t stop him from going forward when they are on counter attack. Palmer started the play by passing to Saka and then Bellingham had to run with them since he is good in that type of advantage. Foden was lost as usual. Spain possessed ball better most times so it is common sense to see England players in their half and not just Foden. Foden was offensively clueless is the point here, everyone saw that except you.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 2:01pm
Unlimited22:

It's just difficult for him to accept 😂😂

Your boy dropped an 007 when every other attacker had a contribution. Even Toney scored a shootout pen.
If only he know the sacrilege South Gate did by giving Foden that much minutes with those performances.

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