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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Emusan(m): 11:03am On Aug 05
MaxInDHouse:
In the year 1914!

All Watchtower prophecies about end of the world FAILED!

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by DaddyCoool: 11:05am On Aug 05
Emusan:


All Watchtower prophecies about end of the world FAILED!

All Watchtower prophecies about end of the world FAILED!

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:41pm On Aug 05
Jesus returned in the year 1914!
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 12:49pm On Aug 05
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus returned in the year 1914!

repetitive obsessive compulsion < multiple occurrences

lost false jw mad max

repeating the truth as i do is good
but repeating your lies over and over again is insanity, and of course evil,
compelled to repeating the same things over and over again is mental disease
and you false jw's are full of it in multiple threads

your madness is also known as:
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.

OCD is mental disease

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:52pm On Aug 05
Jesus has been around since the year 1914! smiley
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 12:58pm On Aug 05
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus has been around since the year 1914! smiley

repetitive obsessive compulsion < multiple occurrences

lost false jw mad max, Jesus has been around two thousand years in the hearts of Christians

repeating your nonsense and lies over and over again is insanity, and of course evil,
compelled to repeating the same things over and over again is mental disease
and you false jw's are full of it in multiple threads

your madness is also known as:
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.

OCD is mental disease
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by CanadaOrBust: 1:16pm On Aug 05
Emusan:

All Watchtower prophecies about end of the world FAILED!

All Watchtower prophecies about end of the world FAILED!

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by CanadaOrBust: 1:38pm On Aug 05
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus has been around since the year 1914! smiley

Where was he b4 1914?
Who was rulling in heaven b4 1914?

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:04pm On Aug 05
CanadaOrBust:

Where was he b4 1914?
Who was rulling in heaven b4 1914?

He returned to heaven in the first century and ever since then sat beside God awaiting God's order to start ruling! Psalms 110:1

God has always been the ruler of heaven but from 1914 Jesus was given the authority to start his kingdom which will later be extended to planet earth that's why he drove Satan away from heaven {Revelations 12:7-12 compare to Daniel 12:1-3} that year.

You are welcome! smiley
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 1:07am On Aug 06
gotquestions.org

What are the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ beliefs about Jesus’ return in 1914?

Answer

It is the view of Got Questions Ministries that all authority belongs to Christ Jesus: “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me” (Matthew 28:18). Jesus has “the name that is above every name” (Philippians 2:9–11) and is the King of kings and Lord of lords (Revelation 19:16). We believe that Jesus will return to the earth, personally and physically, sometime in the future.

Before we look at the current beliefs of Jehovah’s Witnesses with regard to the year 1914, it is worth noting that prior to 1914 Jehovah’s Witnesses believed the following:

The Last Days began 1799 (The Harp of God, 1928 ed., p. 235–36, 239).

Jesus started being present with His people in 1874, and He started ruling in heaven in 1878 (ibid., p. 236, 239–40).

The times of the Gentiles would end in 1914, resulting in the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all earthly governments, the heavenly and earthly resurrections, and paradise on earth (Watchtower, July 15, 1894, p. 226).
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 1:30am On Aug 06
With hindsight the Jehovah’s Witnesses were obliged to admit their earlier expectations were wrong, and they made adjustments to correct previous misunderstandings; however, they retained the view that 1914 was a special year.

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Christ Jesus had to wait till October 1914 before all authority was given to Him, and it was at that time that He became King of God’s heavenly kingdom: “Jesus, after his death and resurrection, ascended to heaven and sat down at his Father’s side waiting till he was given ‘rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him.’ . . . By comparing conditions on earth since World War I (1914—1918) with Jesus’ prophecy, one can see that he depicted conditions in our time. Therefore, Jesus must now be ruling in heaven.” The same article goes on to claim that only Jehovah’s Witnesses are the true and loyal subjects of this heavenly King (“What Is Jesus Christ Doing Now?” Awake! magazine, December 20, 1980, p. 3–4).

According to Jehovah’s Witnesses, 1914 did not mark a literal “coming” of Christ but His invisible “presence.” Only those with “with eyes of understanding” could perceive what was going on. In October 1914, they say, Jesus cast Satan and his demons out of heaven to the vicinity of Earth, and this is what started World War I. It is worth noting that, although Jesus supposedly became King in heaven in October 1914, the First World War had already been going for some three months. Since then, Jesus has been busy refining, educating, and organizing His loyal subjects (i.e., Jehovah’s Witnesses) for greater activity. According to Jehovah’s Witnesses’ theology, after the tribulation period, Jesus (who is known in heaven as Michael the Archangel) will bring judgment on all who oppose Him and who persecute His people (Jehovah’s Witnesses).
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 1:34am On Aug 06
Here is how Jehovah’s Witnesses explain the meaning of the Greek word parousia, which they translate as “presence” in Matthew 24:3 and Mark 13:3–4 in their New World Translation:

“‘Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence [pa·rou·siʹa, Greek] and of the conclusion of the system of things?’ . . . What is the meaning and significance of the Greek word pa·rou·siʹa? It literally means ‘a being alongside,’ the expression being drawn from the Greek preposition paraʹ (‘alongside’) and ousía (a ‘being’). . . . The pa·rou·siʹa or ‘presence’ of the Lord Jesus Christ is, therefore, his presence or visit as King, invisibly, in royal power and glory. Consequently a ‘sign’ is required so that persons on earth may discern that presence” (“For What ‘Sign’ Are Christians Looking?” Watchtower, July 1, 1974, p. 397–400).

Regarding the special nature of October 1914, the Jehovah’s Witnesses say this: “‘The appointed times of the nations’ ended, and Jesus Christ was installed as God’s heavenly King. . . . Just as Jesus predicted, his ‘presence’ as heavenly King has been marked by dramatic world developments—war, famine, earthquakes, pestilences. (Matthew 24:3–8; Luke 21:11) Such developments bear powerful testimony to the fact that 1914 indeed marked the birth of God’s heavenly Kingdom and the beginning of ‘the last days’ of this present wicked system of things.—2 Timothy 3:1–5” (What Does the Bible Really Teach?, Appendix: “1914—A Significant Year in Bible Prophecy,” p. 217–218).

Since 1914 Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that Jesus, the Messianic King “has cleansed a people for Jehovah’s name. He has directed the preaching of the Kingdom good news in 239 lands and has educated millions about Jehovah’s ways. He has united more than seven million loyal subjects, each one offering himself willingly to do his Father’s will. . . . By the end of Christ’s Thousand Year Reign, the Messianic Kingdom will have achieved its purpose. Then Jesus will hand the Kingdom over to his Father” (“100 Years of Kingdom Rule—How Does It Affect You?” The Watchtower—study edition, January 15, 2014, § 13, 16).

As late as 1961, Jehovah’s Witnesses believed that the generation alive in 1914 who witnessed the events that shook the world then would be “the generation alive that will not pass away till there is fulfilled that ‘great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again’” (Watchtower, April 15, 1961, p. 236). They were wrong. The Great Tribulation predicted in the Bible is still some time in the future. Notwithstanding, Jehovah’s Witnesses continue to believe that, since 1919, they were chosen by Jehovah God to be His earthly organization and that they alone will survive the battle of Armageddon:


In contrast to what the Jehovah’s Witnesses teach, the Bible tells us that no man knows the day or the hour when Christ Jesus will return. And nowhere does the Bible say that Jesus had to wait until the year 1914 before being granted all authority.
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 1:40am On Aug 06
after Jesus resurrection, He said to his disciples:

Mat 28:18  And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

fraud jw's say all authority was given to Jesus in 1914
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 1:54am On Aug 06
Jesus said no one knows the timing of His second coming:

Mat 24:36  But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 

fraud jw's say it was in 1914

fraud jw's also tell of two second comings < insane
a invisible second coming and a visible second coming
but they say the invisible second coming isn't a literal second coming (probably because He is invisible and not really here)

well we know those who are not all here > false jw's

beware of false prophets
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 2:24am On Aug 06
false jw org:

The Last Days began 1799 (The Harp of God, 1928 ed., p. 235–36, 239).

Jesus started being present with His people in 1874, and He started ruling in heaven in 1878 (ibid., p. 236, 239–40).

The times of the Gentiles would end in 1914, resulting in the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all earthly governments, the heavenly and earthly resurrections, and paradise on earth (Watchtower, July 15, 1894, p. 226).

beware of false prophets
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:30am On Aug 06
From the year 1914! smiley
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 6:39am On Aug 06
MaxInDHouse:
From the year 1914! smiley

lost false jw mad max

all authority was given to Jesus soon after He resurrected:

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:40am On Aug 06
From the year 1914!
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 6:41am On Aug 06
MaxInDHouse:
From the year 1914! smiley

repetitive obsessive compulsion < multiple occurrences

lost false jw mad max

compelled to repeating the same things over and over again is mental disease
and you false jw's are full of it in multiple threads

your madness is also known as:
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.

OCD is mental disease
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:48am On Aug 06
Jesus began ruling in the year 1914!
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 6:55am On Aug 06
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus began ruling in the year 1914!

lost false jw mad max

compelled to repeating your same obsessions over and over again is mental disease
and you false jw's are full of it in multiple threads

your madness is also known as:
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.

OCD is mental disease
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 7:12am On Aug 06
lost false jw's aemmy and mad max

you have your spew of insanity's and run away, of course:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 7:27am On Aug 06
carm dot org

Why is 1914 important to the Jehovah’s Witnesses?

The Watchtower’s 1914 doctrine is one of the most important because it is the end of the Gentile Time. It is a flimsy, doctrines that the Jehovah’s Witnesses hold to. For this reason, it is crucial to not only stress the importance of this doctrine to the Jehovah’s Witnesses but also to graciously point out its errors. If a Jehovah’s Witness begins to question such an important doctrine as 1914, it may lead to the questioning of other important Watchtower teachings.

The following will consist of a brief survey of some of the important Watchtower statements as it relates to the 1914 doctrine.

“Let the honest-hearted person compare the kind of preaching of the gospel of the Kingdom done by the religious systems of Christendom during all the centuries with that done by Jehovah’s Witnesses since the end of World War I in 1918. They are not one and the same kind. That of Jehovah’s Witnesses is really “gospel,” or “good news,” as of God’s heavenly kingdom that was established by the enthronement of his Son Jesus Christ at the end of the Gentile Times in 1914.”

Notice that the date of 1914 is included in the “gospel” of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. While the emphasis is on the establishment of the kingdom and the enthronement of Jesus Christ, the date of 1914 cannot be overlooked. If Jesus was not enthroned in 1914 in addition to the establishment of God’s heavenly kingdom, then when could these events have occurred? It turns out that a date is completely integral to the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ doctrine of the kingdom of God and the very enthronement of Jesus Christ.

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 7:31am On Aug 06
“Of all religions on earth, Jehovah’s Witnesses are the only ones today that are telling the people of earth this “good news.”

What does the “good news” of the Jehovah’s Witnesses include? As stated above, it is the 1914 date. The Jehovah’s Witnesses pride themselves in their evangelism efforts in claiming that no other religion comes close to what they teach and accomplish. Yet, they add this date to their message. Why?

“What vital thing has now been added to the good news of the kingdom of God that Jesus Christ and his zealous apostles used to preach nineteen hundred years ago? This, namely, the birth of God’s Messianic kingdom in the heavens at the end of the Gentile Times in 1914.”

This quotation shows that the “gospel” of the Jehovah’s Witnesses is not only different from evangelical Christians but also different from what Jesus Christ and the apostles taught. The Watchtower is preaching a different gospel from that of scripture. Consider what the Apostle Paul has to say about a “different gospel,”

I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed! (Galatians 1:6–9)

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 7:36am On Aug 06
While the Jehovah’s Witnesses may not admit to preaching a “contrary” gospel, it is certainly not the same gospel as the Bible declares. However, adding a complex and speculative chronological system to the gospel couldn’t be anything but another gospel!

“Approved association with Jehovah’s Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible, including those Scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses. What do such beliefs include? … That 1914 marked the end of the Gentile Times and the establishment of the Kingdom of God in the heavens, as well as the time for Christ’s foretold presence.”

Some may be unaware that Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that a person must worship Jehovah in association with the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in order to be saved. Therefore, if someone is not in “approved association,” then he is not saved. Thus, the acceptance or rejection of 1914 can affect your very salvation. It is important to stress to the Jehovah’s Witnesses that they should consider whether the early church could have had anything like this in mind, namely, a salvation requirement that includes complex, speculative chronologies.

“So Christendom’s clergy refuse to take a stand for Jehovah’s Kingdom by Jesus Christ. For failing to support it, they will be destroyed in the “great tribulation” just ahead. But unlike them, Jehovah’s Witnesses have abandoned Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion, and are preaching the Kingdom message in 203 lands. This unparalleled work is an outstanding feature of “the sign” proving that in 1914 Jesus was installed as heavenly King, to rule amid his enemies.”

According to the Watchtower, what is missing in the preaching of so-called “Christendom” that would warrant destruction in the great tribulation? It is the lack of believing that 1914 as the date when Jesus “was established by the enthronement of his son Jesus Christ.” Given their assertion, it would be helpful to point out to a JW that 1914 has no foundation in Scripture, nor does it have anything to do with the gospel as taught by Jesus Christ.

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Prosper1912: 1:03pm On Aug 06
Emusan:


Where did that 1 come from?

This is what you said @OP "So the 2520 days will be 2520 years counting from 607 B.C.E. it ended in the year 1914."

So where did that 1 you added coming from.

You don't count and later ADDED, that's fraud grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Shey u go still follow chat gpt argue
Still u nor sabi simple mathematics

Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Prosper1912: 1:07pm On Aug 06
DaddyCoool:


All Watchtower prophecies about end of the world FAILED!

Which one did fail?
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by DaddyCoool: 1:25pm On Aug 06
Prosper1912:


Which one did fail?

Which one succeded?

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 2:43pm On Aug 06
Prosper1912:


Which one did fail?

That your Jesus returned in 1914 not only failed but was a huge lie carried over from 1874 grin grin grin
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 2:44pm On Aug 06
DaddyCoool:


Which one succeded?

He just wants to impress us with the crammed Bible knowledge packed into his brains cheesy grin

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by DaddyCoool: 2:47pm On Aug 06
achorladey:


He just wants to impress us with the crammed Bible knowledge packed into his brains cheesy grin

Exactly like a robot. If you bring up something he wasn't programmed for he'd have to go back for more programming b4 he gets back to you😅

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Emusan(m): 4:57pm On Aug 06
Prosper1912:


Shey u go still follow chat gpt argue
Still u nor sabi simple mathematics

Funny enough!

Chatgpt says IT'S 2520 YEARS

My qualifications:
1. Where did God talk about 2520 YEARS in the scripture?

2. What was the calculation of Watchtower to have arrived at 1914?

Now, that you agree with Chatgpt

let me ask the same AI about the years Jerusalem was destroyed.

What do you say?

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