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Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 10:47pm On Aug 08 |
SIRTee15:i have answered her question and her told me that if i should said a particular place that support man beating their wifes that she will convert to christian. I answered her(surah 4:34) but i have no replied from her |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by SIRTee15: 12:52am On Aug 09 |
Leemzyy: Which stupid question are U asking. U came here and asked if I should worship son of God. I showed U evidence in the koran where Muhammed stand gidigba and boldly declared that the son of God should be worshipped. Even if there's Allah sitting above his throne and his son sitting below it. According to the koran and Muhammed, both of them should be worshipped!!! No be me talk am o...na Muhammed talk am. Which other answer are U looking for..baby Muslima. What other answer do U need? |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by SIRTee15: 1:29am On Aug 09 |
Leemzyy: A pagan calling someone else unbeliever. Someone that will bow to a stone 5 times a day, travel to Mecca to lick a stone calling someone else unbeliever. The only way their god can hear them is if they fave Mecca to pray, all other direction makes him deaf. U guys are confirmed chronic pagan, U are no better than obatala worshippers who now to their idols in the morning. Look at the picture below and tell me the difference btw the two. As far as I can see both of U are venerating stones. That's paganism!!! 1 Like
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Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by SIRTee15: 3:16am On Aug 09 |
AntiChristian:Yhen Yhen. U go explain tire. See very strange translations he brought. He left well known ones to go carry unknown translation. Even at that we go thrash am. When Cornelius bowed to Peter. He told him not do so because he's only a mere man like him New American bible. Acts 10 25 When Peter entered, Cornelius met him and, falling at his feet, paid him homage. 26 Peter, however, raised him up, saying, “Get up. I myself am also a human being.” The question is why did Jesus accept homage but Peter rejected it? When John bowed to the angel in book of revelation. The angel told him to bow only to God. Young literal translation John 22 8 And I, John, am he who is seeing these things and hearing, and when I heard and beheld, I fell down to bow before the feet of the messenger who is shewing me these things; 9 and he saith to me, `See -- not; for fellow-servant of thee am I, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of those keeping the words of this scroll; before God bow.' So why did Jesus allowed people to bow to him but the angel rejected being bowed to and said that should only be for God. The greek word used is here proskyneo meaning worship/to bow. So why is Jesus accepting proskyneo from people but Peter and even an angel rejected proskyneo. If proskyneo simply mean homage or bow, why did Peter and the angel rejected proskyneo. The most interesting thing here is Jesus himself said thou shall worship only your Lord your God. Young literal translation Matthew 4 10 Then saith Jesus to him, `Go -- Adversary, for it hath been written, The Lord thy God thou shalt bow to, and Him only thou shalt serve.' Again The greek word here for bow is proskyneo. So what made Jesus accept prosekyneo from men while others rejected prosekyneo from men. Why did Jesus allow people to bow to him when he himself said U should only bow to God. Oya fake bible scholar come and start your another epistle of your shalaye. U go explain taya. AntiChristian: They became believers and started the church in Armenia. AntiChristian: This is not about if God have a son or not. This is about should the son of Allah be worshipped. I care less if Allah has a son. A god that thinks he needs to have sex with a goddess to procreate doesn't deserve a son. This is about WORSHIP- IF ALLAH HAS A SON, SHOULD THE SON BE WORSHIPPED? ANSWER THE QUESTION BASED ON YOUR QUR'AN. |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by AntiChristian: 6:27am On Aug 09 |
Kingsempires: God doesn't die at all! Person wey get power no fit die! Even death hasn't die since his creation! The mission of killing himself right? God came to kill himself so that he can forgive people! So God refused to forgive people without killing! |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by AntiChristian: 6:45am On Aug 09 |
SIRTee15:Meshionu! It's not even Koran! It's Qur'an. You can't even spell it properly. How won't you misinterprete it? Holy spirit always misguiding you every time! if Allah has a son, Muhammed boldly said he will be the first to worship him. What does an "if" statement mean? It simply means it's just a possibility! But it's not true! It is illogical, irrational and unreasonable for Allah to have offspring! His offspring would of course have offspring too and not be barren! Allah said He begets not nor is He begotten! That's why in the next verse Allah says: Glorified is the Lord of the heavens and the earth, the Lord of the Throne, far above what they claim. Qur'an 43:82 |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Leemzyy(f): 6:53am On Aug 09 |
SIRTee15:Hehehe e pain you sey no be chinsus picture or sature we dey lick,if e pain you reach buttock then as the nice soul that i have,i will advice u to sit on two fresh naked wire,next tmrw be prepared 2 go dance,clap,jump and play,i dont have energy 2 argue with unbelievers so bye bye masalam Allahu yurshiduk |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by StillDtruth: 9:14am On Aug 09 |
Leemzyy: See cursed stupid thing! Did i or he say there that your allah had a son? You just open your dog fucqed mouths to leak out your dirty smelly womblesses. Barren devil. |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 9:28am On Aug 09 |
SIRTee15:Another meaningful point |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 9:46am On Aug 09 |
AntiChristian:so what's your point.someone that died and resurected on the third day,have any prohpet done that before not even your mohammed can do so.so have any prophet make the kind of statement that Jesus make to the thief that was crucified with him.God came in human form so don't misunderstand it |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 9:49am On Aug 09 |
Leemzyy:the is no point you are making here.i can see you don't understand your religion |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Leemzyy(f): 9:59am On Aug 09 |
StillDtruth:Abeg rifemun baki devil incarnated animal,mtchewwwww |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by StillDtruth: 12:23pm On Aug 09 |
Leemzyy: Says the Cursed human who fuqcs animals and married the devil. Any small accident, straight to hellfire where God shall punish you forever for all the evils you have done in your throughout your life that you thought you have escaped. Dirty whorre! |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by SIRTee15: 12:46pm On Aug 09 |
AntiChristian: Calm down, we know your Qur'an tells U Allah has no son. The question here is should the Son of God be worshipped. According to Qur'an the answer is Yes. So don't come to Christians telling them they shouldn't worship Jesus. We Christians believe Jesus is the Son of God, therefore according to your Qur'an Christians should worship him. U barking at the wrong tree telling us it's wrong to worship Jesus, so long as we believe he is the Son of God, Christians are doing the right thing by worshipping him. Muhammed would do the same thing if he was a Christian!!! What U should be telling us is that Jesus is not the son of God. Above should be the argument. Stop looking in the wrong direction. |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by SIRTee15: 1:03pm On Aug 09 |
Leemzyy: Calm down, it's obvious U were brought up a Muslim. U haven't taken time to think things through properly. Use the brain God gave U and think..... U Muslims call obatala worshippers pagans because they pour gin on stones and bow to the stones. But U Muslims do the same. U bow to a black stone in Mecca and then travel to lick the black stone. U are guilty of doing the same thing U accuse idolaters of. U can't be mocking obatala worshippers for venerating a stone and then turn around to worship your God by doing the same thing- venerating a stone. God himself said he hates it when people venerates stones, it's a pagan practice copied from the ancient middle east religion. All religion claim it's the right one and only way to paradise. The right religion will separate itself and be distinct from all other wrong religion, otherwise it can't be the right religion. U can't be venerating a stone and then claim your religion is right. That's a fallacy. Whether U like it or not, venerating a stone is pagan practice. Finally, let me ask U 2 questions to show U the error in how U Muslims worship.... If suddenly the black stone disappears or Mecca is destroyed maybe by earthquake. Does that mean U guys can't pray anymore? If black stone suddenly appear in Lagos and Mecca is destroyed by asteroid. Does that mean U Muslims will now bow towards Lagos when praying? |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by SIRTee15: 1:20pm On Aug 09 |
Leemzyy: What question again. I already answered your question. Your question was if Allah has a son, should we worship Allah or the Son. I replied, according to your own Quran, we should worship both Allah and the son of Allah. That's what your Qur'an said, and as a Muslim U should believe your Qur'an because it's the word of Allah. Muhammed who worship Allah boldy claim that if Allah has a son, he would be the first to worship him. The day Muhammed realise Jesus is truly the Son of God, he would worship him alongside Allah. My dear, don't wait until U enter grave to realise the truth. It will be too late for U. Muhammed already gave U the expo. There's nothing wrong worshipping the Son of God, Muhammed would have done the same if he knew. Muhammed lived at a time when information was hard to come by, reason why Qur'an is filled with errors and historical contradiction. But U have access to better information and truth, there's nothing stopping u from worshipping the Son of God except your pride, arrogance and hard heart. No Muslim can prove Jesus isn't the Son of God, Jesus said so himself. There's clear evidence- both historical and factual that Jesus called himself the Son of God. U can deny it but won't change the fact that Jesus is the Son of God. And if Jesus is the Son of God, U have no excuse not to worship him because your own Quran clearly state that the Son of God should be worshipped. The decision is left to U. Either follow the lies and deception of your imams who doesn't know any better OR U embrace the truth. The choice is yours. |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by SIRTee15: 1:44pm On Aug 09 |
Leemzyy: No need to come with insults. It doesn't portray U or your religion in good light. You are a woman, be a lady and feminine like your religion promote. Leemzyy let me tell U this, a true religion must be open to questions and be ready to give appropriate answers. I'm happy to answer your questions on Christianity because I'm proud to be one. Any religion which cannot be questioned is nothing but occultism. The adherents are practicing cultism. Ask me any question on Christianity be it trinity, atonement of sin by blood, Jesus being God, gospel books. Any question and I'm happy to respond. This is not about making U a christian- only God can do that, but it's about opening your eyes the truth. Sometimes U need a different perspective to life b4 u realise the right way. Finally, Leemzyy look at this pictures again and tell me what these men are doing is right. DO U THINK LICKING A STONE IS DIFFERENT FROM POURING GIN ON A STONE? IF U ARE NOT A MUSLIM AND SOMEONE SHOWS U THESE PICTURES, WOULD U THINK THIS IS PAGANISM OR RIGHT WAY TO KNOW GOD. LICKING A STONE OR POURING GIN ON A STONE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. BOTH CANT BE THE RIGHT WAY TO KNOW GOD, THEY ARE BOTH WRONG. Infact a lot or modern Muslims especially Muslim converts and even some Muslims here on nairaland are now stylishly dissociating themselves from the black stone because deep within them they know it's paganism. It's what it is. Venerating a black stone and thinking licking it will atone for your sins is paganism and idolatry combined.
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Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 8:23pm On Aug 09 |
SIRTee15:you have made so much point today,i guess she will realise her religion |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by SIRTee15: 9:58pm On Aug 09 |
Kingsempires: She's either a baby Muslim or one those Muslima who in the religion for vanity. |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by SIRTee15: 10:01pm On Aug 09 |
Kingsempires: Leemzyy is either a baby Muslim or one those Muslima who in the religion for vanity. It's the attitude and arrogance for me. She jumped into the thread as if she knew something the rest of us don't know. Alas, it was soon revealed her brain is one fifth of Muslim men, thus deficient in knowledge |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 10:25pm On Aug 09 |
SIRTee15:She is not quoting me again because i answered her question.she did'nt know anything in her religion,all she know is on friday she goes to the mosque.she go run tire |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by AntiChristian: 5:07am On Aug 10 |
SIRTee15: There's nothing like Christian or Christianity during your Jesus's time! Everything was a creation of some people after Jesus left. How does God have a son? Explain how God got the son? How the son had his father as his God? How son worshipped father and prayed to him? If God has a son then the God family will need to be worshipped but god's son won't be barren! God would have a grandson and great grandson or daughters. I don't think God would be discriminatory. What you worship is falsehood! Jesus didn't worship himself by God! |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by AntiChristian: 5:48am On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires: When he died did God die? If the son can die then the father too can die! These are absurd qualities for God! God doesn't need to become human, be killed and then die to forgive me! You guys need to think! |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Leemzyy(f): 6:12am On Aug 10 |
SIRTee15:Hey mr man never in your last life say i am deficient in knowledge,just because i wish not to answer u doesnt mean i am clueless of you guys stupidity,do u even know me?no!,well then let me tell you about myself,i was born in a muslim family,i grew up in qatar,i attended an islamic school,i did my Quran memorization when i was just nine year of age,i know and understand every word in the holy book cus i am more fluent in arabic than even english i aint good in eng,i have met with Qaris like Sudais,shuraim and sheik muhammad(i am sure u might know them),i have participated in alot of islam competion so plss u dont know, me nvr judge me 4rm just a forum like dis ok? |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 6:28am On Aug 10 |
AntiChristian:So my question for you is who created death |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Leemzyy(f): 6:31am On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires:if na you,i already know u gat no single sense at all,just your mamma i pity 4 she dont know she gave birth 2 a disappointment and doom |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 6:35am On Aug 10 |
Leemzyy:You know your quran very well,defend yourself na |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Leemzyy(f): 6:51am On Aug 10 |
SIRTee15:I thought you had a single sense but now i know u no different 4rm your pic,so 4 ignoring you now makes me a dull baby,you think all the scholars i met are 4 saying or doing sake?i met them 4 what u claim i lack, do u think yesterday as friday i should ignore my religion rites and obligations just 4 your sake right?Ana la ahtaj ilaa shafaqatik elaa ayi shukran laa,wish i could clarify you in a language u understand more,let me ask you mr man,how many countries and places have u gone to seek 4 knowledge on your religion?how many risk have u gone through on behalf of your religion?and u are here bashing me that yen yen yen abeg get out, |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by AntiChristian: 6:52am On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires: The creator of everything is Allah! And He is never subject to any of His creations! |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Leemzyy(f): 7:35am On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires:Defend what exactly?that my religion is the right one?cus all your reply so far has been curses here and there,i cant prove my religion 2 insane people,islam needs sane people with knowledge 1 Like |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 9:22am On Aug 10 |
Leemzyy:na you first called my religion fake.you don't know anything of your religion and you are calling christianity fake.just check this out;boko haram,ISIS,taliban e.t.c. They all kill people in the name of Allah i guess you love the way boko haram kill&bomb churches.just like the way your fellow mulsim killed innocent deborah in sokoto because she said Jesus is the greatest.your guys really train wide lions in islam.have you hear of christian terrorist,so the evidence are everywhere that islam is fake.christianity is love, kindness, happiness,helping etc.not like surah9;5 that is why it is not a sin for you guys to kill non-mulsim.leemzy you don't suppose to be making noise because you know nothing about christianity.so i guess you are the one insane |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 9:34am On Aug 10 |
Leemzyy:so because of you are in islam makes is the right religion.o mor!!! See point oooooo, you sabi make point ooooo!!! so what makes islam right is because you are a mulsim.i can see that islam have blind you that you can see anything truth accept from the ones from your imam or religion |
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