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Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Leemzyy(f): 9:48am On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires:Mr man and d next verse says what?or thats all u know |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 10:06am On Aug 10 |
Leemzyy:So am i lieing Or do you want to denied the verse.mrs woman stop being ignorant or have you not come across this verse that i mention in our quran |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Leemzyy(f): 10:06am On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires:Point huh?well then what does suratul nisa'i chapter 171 said mr man?if you cant answer this then abeg dont mention me again |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by AntiChristian: 10:14am On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires: Is there anything rational in all you've been typing since? |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Leemzyy(f): 10:16am On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires:Are u dumb?i said your answer is there in suratul tawbah chapter 4 and 6,or are u very dull that u only know chapter 5?very dull unexperience asshole |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 10:39am On Aug 10 |
Leemzyy:Why are you insulting me,this is an argument and you are insulting me.did i say anything relating to this verse you quote here.stop being agressive |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Leemzyy(f): 10:43am On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires:Lol u see your life?u just talk about the surah in verse 5 isnt it?and now i told you about your answer and u avoiding the all d chapters i commended 4 you,abi you dont know them?well u aint a muslim so am not suprised |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 10:44am On Aug 10 |
AntiChristian:I understand.what i am saying is the truth,you know most times if someone is saying the truth,majority sees the person as an idiot.but that can not change the truth |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by AntiChristian: 10:46am On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires: Na so one mad man talk say Obi go win election! To him what he said was the truth! And some still believed Obi won till today! Seems there are many mad men among us! |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 10:51am On Aug 10 |
AntiChristian:Lies covers the truth it does not mean that people will not still see the truth |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by AntiChristian: 11:10am On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires: The truth that God is divided into three but is actually one? That God can't even express himself that he is three but one authentically anywhere in the Bible! Anyways truth is subjective! A Kid's truth will be of course childish! |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Leemzyy(f): 11:18am On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires:Hehe mr man why did you avoid all the chapters i suggested 4 you especially the one in suratul nisa'i chapter 171 abi you hand has failed you ni? |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 11:23am On Aug 10 |
AntiChristian:So 1x1x1 will give you 3 or 1 divided by 1 divided by 1 will give you three 3 ?we all know the answer is 1 but the are three figures that i divided/times and it gives me 1 .so the three persons in one God is so simple to understand |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by AntiChristian: 11:39am On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires: When you add yourself plus your mum and Dad is that 1X1X1=1? 3 Persons is three different persons! When your Jesus died did the father die with him? No! The father is separate from him! Even the Holy Spirit is separate too! 1+1+1= 3! And they are not one in any physical sense! |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 11:51am On Aug 10 |
AntiChristian:So what is the meaning of God is omnipresent ?if you say Jesus died why did God not die is just like saying that God is not omnipresent. |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by AntiChristian: 11:55am On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires: How is God being omnipresent related to Jesus's death and God being three persons? You have three Gods! One is the father- He can't die nor can he become man! The second god is Jesus. He can die and can become man! Jesus died alone without his father and spirit! The third is the Holy Spirit. He can't die and can't become man! Three Gods with different works! |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 12:07pm On Aug 10 |
AntiChristian:a car has tyres,springs,bulbs e.t.c. So those that mean the car is not 1 because of they do different work in a car |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by AntiChristian: 12:39pm On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires: So who is the tire of God? Jesus! Who is fuel of God? Holy Spirit? Your God is not like car parts from Ladipo market! Tyre/springs/bulbs, etc can NOT stand and exist perfectly on THEIR own! JESUS, HOLY SPIRIT AND FATHER CAN EACH EXIST PERFECTLY ON THEIR OWN! For example your Jesus died! Did the the Holy Spirit and the Father died with Jesus? No! But in a car if the engine knocks the car is dead too! Bring another analogy for your three Gods! See how you don't even understand your truth! |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 1:25pm On Aug 10 |
AntiChristian:so if a car engine is dead,those it mean that the tyres or the spring of the car are not good.a car can not work again if the engine is dead and also a car that have good engine can't work without the tyres or springs.so in conclusion,God the father,God the son,and God the holy spirit work together as one God.so simple to understand |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by AntiChristian: 2:15pm On Aug 10 |
Kingsempires: Let's pick out your faults! If a car engine is dead, then the whole car is faulty and useless! It can't go anywhere! So when Jesus died can we say the father and the Holy Spirit were both Faulty and useless? Jesus said in John 5:30, that by himself he can do nothing! He judges as he hear from God! The father didn't say such statement! In Matthew 19:26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” So God is not like a car spare part as with HIM alone all things are possible. Jesus on his own hand has no power of himself! It is a lie that God works together with Jesus and the Holy Spirit! If that was true God and Holy Spirit would have been crucified with Jesus and die too! But God no dey die! Your truth remain false! |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 3:20pm On Aug 10 |
AntiChristian:men!!! You can't use my bible to fight me.so what of john1;1-10, 10;25-30, 20;28, 5;23 mat14;33 there are so many of the verses that the bible proves Jesus being son of God .by the way let me ask you,i know you mulsim believe that someone have a soul.so my question is if someone dieds the spirit seperate from the boby those that means that the soul and the boby of that person makes the person two ?men!! Are you going to say that i make a wrong point this time. |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by SIRTee15: 5:24pm On Aug 10 |
AntiChristian: So finally U admit that if God has a son, he should be worshipped. Alhamdulilah!!! I now have small respect for U- just very small, because everybody here know saying your brain too dey touch, there are definitely missing screws in your brain. But as we all know, even a dead clock is correct twice a day. Anyway kudos to U. I respect people who doesn't choose and pick what to defend in their faith. It shows u are a honest and sincere Muslim even though it's a false religion. Unlike Abutwin and Qasim who came here and denied surah 43.81, claiming the verse never said son of Allah should be worshipped. It shows they were embarrassed by that verse. Now to your question. What Christians call 'The Son of God' is actually the word of God that proceed from the Father. The word of God is the 2nd person of the triune God and when it became flesh, he's called the Son of God. The term Son of God was used to describe the Messiah who is to come and establish the kingdom of God on earth. Because the Messiah is expected to be a divine being sent by the Father, the 2nd temple Judaism coined the term Son of God for this divine Messiah. It's not like there's a physical son that exist in heaven and would need to produce his own progeny. Muhammed lived in a desert far away from civilisation, didn't know much about Christian theology and couldn't read or write. He just dictated what he felt was his understanding of Christian belief based on his limited knowledge. That's why I dont believe God spoke to Muhammed. It's just too glaring. At least God would know what Christian believe and won't be committing blunders when it comes to correcting those beliefs. Regarding the name Christian. The truth is it's doesn't matter what U call yourself, it's very inconsequential. Koko is to follow Jesus and be a member of the church Christ established. Note- there's a difference btw denomination and the church. Jesus Christ established the church and not denomination. The later is man made. |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by SIRTee15: 5:31pm On Aug 10 |
Leemzyy: I will never understand Muslims. |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by SIRTee15: 5:38pm On Aug 10 |
Leemzyy: I will never understand Muslims. So U came here and attacked me of calling u deficient in knowledge when even your own books calls u deficient in knowledge and inferior to men when it comes to being a witness. The religious books of Muslims confirmed women are deficient in knowledge. Muhammed himself said so. Yes, Muhammed proclaimed women are deficient in knowledge and their witness is only half that of men. Muhammed said the testimony of a Leemzyy is only half of that of AntiChristian. Why are U not attacking Muhammed that called u deficient in knowledge and intellect. But here shouting and raving just because I referenced what Muhammed said about her. That's how I asked honesttalk why black Muslims are called Abd by Arab Muslims and he started fighting me claiming I insulted him. Yet no black muslim will fight an Arab Muslim for calling them a racial slur abd. Honesttalk told me it's not my business if Arab Muslims call black Muslims abd, yet he was very angry and accused me of calling him abd. Seriously the Stockholm syndrome in islam needs to be researched and studied. It's beyond ordinary. |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by SIRTee15: 6:10pm On Aug 10 |
Leemzyy: B4 U jumped into the arena I warned U this place is not for the weak heart. We bringing down satanic strongholds here thus once U enter be ready for battle. I went thru your epistle but sorry to tell U I'm not convinced. I don't believe you have memorised your Koran, I even doubt U read your Qur'an regularly. The naive question U asked gave U away. No Muslim scholar will be stupid enough to ask such a question because they know it's a trap for them. See the answer your Muslim colleague AntiChristian gave to that question. He admitted if God has a family- everyone in that family would be worshipped. He's validating surah 43.81. How ignorant of U to ask me a question that exposes your own religion and validate Christianity. I repeat again, U are very naive. As per your waka up and down including Qatar....no be your fault. In case U don't know, it's everybody's right to travel. Travelling is not a privilege but a right. However, when our leaders have used poverty destroy our people...the few ones rich enough to travel will use it as a tool of oppression and arrogance. By the way, as a Christian I don't need to travel to Jerusalem or Vatican to know about my God. He's a spirit and can reveal himself to me wherever I live and amongst the brethren I worship with. I dont need to learn any special language because God can commune with me in any language I speak. Unlike a religion that the adherent need to learn Arabic in order communicate properly with their God. They must also travel to Mecca or middle east if they want to know more about their God because the God originated from middle east which them makes this god makes him an Arab God. Finally U haven't answer my question I have answers yours and your Muslim brother confirmed my answer. It's only fair to answer mine. I will make it answer for U and not complicate things. Do U think this picture below is pagan practice? Be honest.
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Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Leemzyy(f): 6:52pm On Aug 10 |
Mr sirtee15 as for kissing of the stone,is an act of worship that has no connection except forAllah may his name be exalted,as sayyidina umar said when he kissed the stone,he said he is aware that the stone neither has power 2 benefit or harm,but if he didnt have seen the prophet doing so,then he also wouldnt have kissed it,its not 4 barakah as some says as no basis attached,so now mrtee i asked your fellow this question but he no even know anything and he ran away,i asked that what did suratul tawbah chapter 171 says, should be ashamed that u and your partners in crime cant even answer dis simple thing,u dont even know your bible so am not suprise that u cant answer this |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Leemzyy(f): 7:03pm On Aug 10 |
SIRTee15:And plss mr man stop claiming God has a son,what does suratul jinn chapter 3 said?what about suratul al-isra chapter 17? |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by SIRTee15: 8:01pm On Aug 10 |
Leemzyy: Can the black stone forgive and remove the sin of those that sincerely kiss it? Bring the question here, don't tell me to go and read the koran. I'm not a Muslim and I don't believe in the book. I'm not a Quranic expert. There's a Christian called TenQ, he's good with the Qur'an. Ask him any question regarding your Qur'an and I'm sure he will answer. By the way U have not answers my question. Is below a pagan practice?
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Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by SIRTee15: 8:02pm On Aug 10 |
Leemzyy: If Allah has a Son, should he be worshipped? That's my question, not whether he has a Son or not. |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Leemzyy(f): 8:33pm On Aug 10 |
SIRTee15:Sorry to divert your question but plss can you tell me d diff between servant and son?pls tell me d diff |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Leemzyy(f): 8:36pm On Aug 10 |
SIRTee15:Do u even read what i wrote abt the black stone,i said it neither have d power 2 harm nor benefit,so why that question again,and yes na paganism be that are you okay? |
Re: The Wahala Of The Thief And The Crucifixion by Kingsempires(m): 9:02pm On Aug 10 |
Leemzyy:Which question did you ask you.i na dey run ooo. |
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