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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:59pm On Oct 03
LordAdam16:


The world will not end.

Read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_holocaust#Likelihood_of_complete_human_extinction

Russia's sabre-rattling is to scare NATO from intervening directly.
Using nukes in Ukraine is last resort.
As fallout will affect the Russian homeland and the current areas of engagement have large population of ethnic Russians.

I say the State of Palestine is inevitable because Israel is checkmated.

Its Samson Option as articulated by some of its proponents (Israel does not officially state its parameters) clearly elucidates that at the risk of suffering a resounding defeat, Israel will send nukes at population centers around the world. David Perlmutter and Martin van Creveld specifically mentioned targeting European cities. I can imagine updated guidelines will include population centers in China, India, Indonesia, Brazil, Australia, even Nigeria, et cetera.

You all cheering for them have a target on your backs.

They do not have the arsenal to take on so many objectives and still be able to turn all of Russia into radioactive ash.
Which means there'll be survivors. Across the entire globe. The world will not end, but Israel will. Furthermore, the level of hate that'll be directed against the Jewry will be biblical, cosmic, and consummate.

This is why the Israeli Right's insistence that they will never allow a State of Palestine is delulu.
It's only a matter of time. And so the civilian deaths are needless.

-Lord

What he is saying is if Russia uses one nuke, then it will lead to NATO members using theirs which will surely lead to all out nuclear war.

It simply means the world as we know it today will end. Yes, there would definitely be survivors but a lot of (if not all) countries will cease to exist in the form they are today. It is not just Israel or Ukraine that will cease to exist.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by LordAdam16: 4:57pm On Oct 03
BlueRayDick:


What he is saying is if Russia uses one nuke, then it will lead to NATO members using theirs which will surely lead to all out nuclear war.

It simply means the world as we know it today will end. Yes, there would definitely be survivors but a lot of (if not all) countries will cease to exist in the form they are today. It is not just Israel or Ukraine that will cease to exist.


Futurism is a fascinating subject.

You're correct that the world "as we know it today" will end. Not the world itself, but our current civilization.
But again, spend enough time following the works of experts in the field and you'll realize there's a significant divergence between the pop-culture alarmism and the for-now hypothetical possibilities.

For instance, the global telecommunications backbone is nuclear-proof. It crisscrosses the oceans.
Less than 60% of the world lives in cities which will bear the full brunt of the attacks.
It is unclear how long the nuclear fallout and winter will last. Alarmist modeling did not hold well to the Kuwait fires.

So it pays to regionalize the effects. Were Israel to be the subject of a nuclear confrontation, it will cease to exist, not just in the form it is today, but as an habitable parch. Why? Because it is small.

New agglomerations will form in current rural areas that will expand to become the cities of the future.
The clock will roll back 200 years in terms of population density. But technologically, we might only go back two decades from Day Zero.
Europe will be the worst hit. But every other continent and Africa especially will have a new map of population concentrations.

You can look this up independently.

The hyper-wealthy all have bunkers in New Zealand and sparse locales for a reason.
When the exchange starts, they'll head to their bunkers.
When it stops, they'll emerge and hold the keys to technologies (they'd preserved in archives in their bunkers) that'll put them at the top of the pyramid in the new global order again.

And if we somehow return to the Moon or establish a Gateway space station sometime in the next decade, the dangers of a nuclear exchange to our species will decline by at least a magnitude.

-Lord

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:28pm On Oct 03
LordAdam16:


Futurism is a fascinating subject.

You're correct that the world "as we know it today" will end. Not the world itself, but our current civilization.
But again, spend enough time following the works of experts in the field and you'll realize there's a significant divergence between the pop-culture alarmism and the for-now hypothetical possibilities.

For instance, the global telecommunications backbone is nuclear-proof. It crisscrosses the oceans.
Less than 60% of the world lives in cities which will bear the full brunt of the attacks.
It is unclear how long the nuclear fallout and winter will last. Alarmist modeling did not hold well to the Kuwait fires.

So it pays to regionalize the effects. Were Israel to be the subject of a nuclear confrontation, it will cease to exist, not just in the form it is today, but as an habitable parch. Why? Because it is small.

New agglomerations will form in current rural areas that will expand to become the cities of the future.
The clock will roll back 200 years in terms of population density. But technologically, we might only go back two decades from Day Zero.
Europe will be the worst hit. But every other continent and Africa especially will have a new map of population concentrations.

You can look this up independently.

The hyper-wealthy all have bunkers in New Zealand and sparse locales for a reason.
When the exchange starts, they'll head to their bunkers.
When it stops, they'll emerge and hold the keys to technologies (they'd preserved in archives in their bunkers) that'll put them at the top of the pyramid in the new global order again.

And if we somehow return to the Moon or establish a Gateway space station sometime in the next decade, the dangers of a nuclear exchange to our species will decline by at least a magnitude.

-Lord

The problem with ur analysis here is that you tend to assume that whatever country nukes Israel out of existence would survive . And I think it is your bias against Israel that makes you think such country would also not be in ruins because it is a bigger country. Israel has allies, powerful ones who would nuke such country out of existence as well.

The bottom line is there is no winner in an all-out nuclear war. All those talk about hyper wealthy heading to their bunkers and escaping the fall out of a nuclear war would not even happen.

There is a reason why any form of nuclear weapon has not been deployed by any country since 1945. Everyone who is in possession of nuclear knows what comes after its use now that more countries possess the technology.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:35pm On Oct 03
itsrm wetin Fubara dey cook for Rivers?

I heard he gave Thursday and Friday as public holiday to preceed the LGA election on Saturday and now APC and PDP are doing joint protest.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 5:36pm On Oct 03
Omo,this is about to take a diff turn,Russia recalling its citizens from Israel?.....

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 5:40pm On Oct 03
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 5:45pm On Oct 03
Amigoss:
Omo,this is about to take a diff turn,Russia recalling its citizens from Israel?.....

I double dare you.

Ignore the media rhetorics.

Israel can never harm Russian interest because former Chelsea FC owner, Roman Abramovich is a Russian Jew.
Russia is importing vegetables from Israel

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 5:48pm On Oct 03
OkpaNsukkaisBae:


I double dare you.

Ignore the media rhetorics.

Israel can never harm Russian interest because former Chelsea FC owner, Roman Abramovich is a Russian Jew.
Russia is importing vegetables from Israel

No more trading vegetables with russia grin cool,You and putin no go see Ugwu and bitter leaf chop again tongue

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 5:50pm On Oct 03
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 5:55pm On Oct 03
Amigoss:


No more trading vegetables with russia grin cool,You and putin no go see Ugwu and bitter leaf chop again tongue

I dey tell you. No more vegetables
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 5:57pm On Oct 03
Amigoss:


No more trading vegetables with russia grin cool,You and putin no go see Ugwu and bitter leaf chop again tongue
Lol. Una no go kill person here.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 6:09pm On Oct 03
BlueRayDick:
itsrm wetin Fubara dey cook for Rivers?

I heard he gave Thursday and Friday as public holiday to preceed the LGA election on Saturday and now APC and PDP are doing joint protest.

The election will hold as planned and the already written results will be published. Wike and his men will try to invalidate the outcome of the election in court based on Fubaras refusal to obey court judgment asking Risec not to proceed with the election. They will attempt to prevent allocation to those selected local government chairmen using the court.

The protest is what I really don't understand. The whole idea is stupid.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 6:14pm On Oct 03
Thflint1 should Abike do something or she should ignore so you wont call her tribalist

https://www.nairaland.com/8229838/stop-migrating-countries-worse-than
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:15pm On Oct 03
Itsrm:


The election will hold as planned and the already written results will be published. Wike and his men will try to invalidate the outcome of the election in court based on Fubaras refusal to obey court judgment asking Risec not to proceed with the election. They will attempt to prevent allocation to those selected local government chairmen using the court.

The protest is what I really don't understand. The whole idea is stupid.





Maybe the protest is just for optics.

But can the courts stop an already scheduled election from holding when there's no major breakdown of law & order or something serious happening?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by LordAdam16: 6:20pm On Oct 03
BlueRayDick:


The problem with ur analysis here is that you tend to assume that whatever country nukes Israel out of existence would survive . And I think it is your bias against Israel that makes you think such country would also not be in ruins because it is a bigger country. Israel has allies, powerful ones who would nuke such country out of existence as well.

The bottom line is there is no winner in an all-out nuclear war. All those talk about hyper wealthy heading to their bunkers and escaping the fall out of a nuclear war would not even happen.

There is a reason why any form of nuclear weapon has not been deployed by any country since 1945. Everyone who is in possession of nuclear knows what comes after its use now that more countries possess the technology.

Facts do not care about feelings.

Russia has 11 time zones. 11.
The size of Moscow's Metropolitan Area is 26,000 square km.
The size of all of Israel is 22,070 square km.

Your bias is on a collision course with the immutable laws of physics.
It does not stand a chance.

The experts disagree with you.
The models disagree with you.
The mathematics disagree with you.

People will survive all-out nuclear warfare.
The wealthy will get to bunkers
Rural will be the new urban.
This has been established since the 60's. You cannot be arguing this and expect to be taken seriously.

Israel painted a target on its back when it acquired nuclear weapons.
It is the smallest country with a nuclear weapon.
Which means when the exchange starts, it has a sub-zero chance of escaping total destruction.
While there lots of places across the planet including in North America and Eurasia that'll squeak through.

Not accepting this does not make it false.
It only means you're attempting to be a human ostrich running on feel-good narratives and some rudimentary form of "misery loves company".
Israel is f*cked so everyone is. The facts don't show that.

-Lord

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 6:20pm On Oct 03
Reno done finally confirm wetin we already know

And Tinubu also confirms he is a political calculator with no permanent enemy

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 6:23pm On Oct 03
Ibime:
Reno done finally confirm wetin we already know

And Tinubu also confirms he is a political calculator with no permanent enemy

Mr Buy naira to grow naira.

I hope the FG is spending naira in the Youkay that Tinubu is vacationing
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 6:25pm On Oct 03
OkpaNsukkaisBae:


Tueh...
You're a
Clown🤡. You're also part of the group who demonize masturbation. Too many uneducated people.

You dey do yabbings with pesin, your yabbings na be say the pesin demonises masturbation

grin grin grin

You no serious.

It's like BlueRaydick was being kind when he described you earlier

BlueRayDick:


An ediot is simply a stupiid or fooolish person. Your character, conduct and carriage on this space has portrayed you to be one. It is audible to the deaf and visible to the blind; hence why u are a butt of joke joke here.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 6:25pm On Oct 03
raumdeuter:
Thflint1 should Abike do something or she should ignore so you wont call her tribalist

https://www.nairaland.com/8229838/stop-migrating-countries-worse-than
As long as it's more of this and less of the other thing she does, we no get wahala.

If she wants to do tribalismo, she should be doing it on her dime and time, like the everyday Nigerian, and not as a government appointee.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 6:27pm On Oct 03
Ibime:


You dey do yabbings with pesin, your yabbings na be say the pesin demonises masturbation

grin grin grin

You no serious.

It's like BlueRaydick was being kind when he described you earlier



grin grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 6:28pm On Oct 03
BlueRayDick:


Maybe the protest is just for optics.

But can the courts stop an already scheduled election from holding when there's no major breakdown of law & order or something serious happening?

The judge tried to be clever. He didn't outrightly say they shouldn't conduct the election. He said RSIEC did not comply with certain provisions of the law in setting the date for the election and because of that, INEC shouldn't release voters register to them till they do the needful.

More like, I'm not stopping the election. However, you must do A and B before you proceed with the election.

Fubara however has decided to proceed with the election in spite of the judgment

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 6:30pm On Oct 03
Ibime:


You dey do yabbings with pesin, your yabbings na be say the pesin demonises masturbation

grin grin grin

You no serious.

It's like BlueRaydick was being kind when he described you earlier




I don't know which is better, whether a masturbator or MEND militant and kidnapper.
You should be the judge

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 6:31pm On Oct 03
Itsrm:


The judge tried to be clever. He didn't outrightly say they shouldn't conduct the election. He said RSIEC did not comply with certain provisions of the law in setting the date for the election and because of that, INEC shouldn't release voters register to them till they do the needful.

More like, I'm not stopping the election. However, you must do A and B before you proceed with the election.

Fubara however has decided to proceed with the election in spite of the judgment
Will INEC be releasing the voter register to them, or is RSIEC already in possession of the voter register ?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:31pm On Oct 03
Itsrm:


The judge tried to be clever. He didn't outrightly say they shouldn't conduct the election. He said RSIEC did not comply with certain provisions of the law in setting the date for the election and because of that, INEC shouldn't release voters register to them till they do the needful.

More like, I'm not stopping the election. However, you must do A and B before you proceed with the election.

Fubara however has decided to proceed with the election in spite of the judgment

Las Las na court go decide the eventual LGA administrators in the state.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 6:32pm On Oct 03
BlueRayDick:


The problem with ur analysis here is that you tend to assume that whatever country nukes Israel out of existence would survive . And I think it is your bias against Israel that makes you think such country would also not be in ruins because it is a bigger country. Israel has allies, powerful ones who would nuke such country out of existence as well.

The bottom line is there is no winner in an all-out nuclear war. All those talk about hyper wealthy heading to their bunkers and escaping the fall out of a nuclear war would not even happen.

There is a reason why any form of nuclear weapon has not been deployed by any country since 1945. Everyone who is in possession of nuclear knows what comes after its use now that more countries possess the technology.

This thing is too simple.

If Russia uses even one Nuke, then NATO will not wait for Putin to decide of he wants to do them next or not. They will immediately send nukes to Russia, probably within minutes of confirming Russia's launches.

Putin will knkw that NATO will be making preemptive strikes on him, so he would want to make preemptive strikes on them. This means that Russia cannot just decide to send Nukes to Tel Aviv or Kyiv alone - it's just not an option. The package on its way to Israel must hold something for US, UK, France, Germany etc.


Meanwhile all those guys will have last man standing instructions to Nuke all the other places too.

The simple analysis is that the first person to use Nukes can only do so if they are sure there can be absolutely no possibility of retaliation, or that they are ready to for everything to turn to ash

That's the meaning of mutual assured destruction.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 6:34pm On Oct 03
BlueRayDick:


Las Las na court go decide the eventual LGA administrators in the state.
Depends on who'd be in charge of the elections, whether it's INEC or RSIEC, and who's in charge of RSIEC when the elections get conducted.

From what it's looking like, best courts can do is call for fresh elections.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 6:36pm On Oct 03
Theflint1:
Will INEC be releasing the voter register to them, or is RSIEC already in possession of the voter register ?

RSIEC says its already in possession of the voter register but I have every reason to believe it's a lie.

First, the INEC REC has denied giving RSIEC the list and secondly, no one has seen this register RSIEC claims to have.

Ideally, the register should have been published by now if they truly have it. INEC does the same months before every election.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 6:37pm On Oct 03
OkpaNsukkaisBae:


I don't know which is better, whether a masturbator or MEND militant and kidnapper.
You should be the judge

Better to be a militant than a self confessed Oscillator

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 6:38pm On Oct 03
Theflint1:
As long as it's more of this and less of the other thing she does, we no get wahala.

If she wants to do tribalismo, she should be doing it on her dime and time, like the everyday Nigerian, and not as a government appointee.

She did this exact thing when she arrested the person who traficked Nigerians to Ghana yet you claimed it was tribalism on this thread
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 6:43pm On Oct 03
Ibime:


Better to be a militant than a self confessed Oscillator

Kidnapper too.. You forgot that one
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:43pm On Oct 03
nihilistjnr:


This thing is too simple.

If Russia uses even one Nuke, then NATO will not wait for Putin to decide of he wants to do them next or not. They will immediately send nukes to Russia, probably within minutes of confirming Russia's launches.

Putin will knkw that NATO will be making preemptive strikes on him, so he would want to make preemptive strikes on them. This means that Russia cannot just decide to send Nukes to Tel Aviv or Kyiv alone - it's just not an option. The package on its way to Israel must hold something for US, UK, France, Germany etc.


Meanwhile all those guys will have last man standing instructions to Nuke all the other places too.

The simple analysis is that the first person to use Nukes can only do so if they are sure there can be absolutely no possibility of retaliation, or that they are ready to for everything to turn to ash

That's the meaning of mutual assured destruction.

I marvel at how he likes to make simple stuff sound very complicated with several paragraphs. Something that is very simple and straight forward.

So Russia will nuke Israel and USA, France and the UK will fold their hands hoping and praying Russia is only interested in nuking Israel while they will be spared?

That was why I said his bias is making him analyze what sooths him. cheesy

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:46pm On Oct 03
Theflint1:
Depends on who'd be in charge of the elections, whether it's INEC or RSIEC, and who's in charge of RSIEC when the elections get conducted.

From what it's looking like, best courts can do is call for fresh elections.

It is the State Electoral Commission that always conducts the LGA elections.

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