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Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by aribisala0(m): 4:14am On Nov 30
Kbrule:


Are bricklayers and iron benders the ones that will industralize Nigeria?
Yes
Partially
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by BlessedGift: 6:23am On Nov 30
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by BlessedGift: 7:24am On Nov 30
Gbam, la cram la pour
lexy2014:


that still leaves the questions unanswered.

is asking you the following not research? yes or no

since you have read these educational materials, I dont see anywhere in your comments that shows that you have a very good understanding and knowledge about how society works or is stratified.

can you share what you read in those educational materials?
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by Kbrule: 8:02am On Nov 30
ivandragon:


Three things are evident from your question.

1. You obviously don't understand metonymy/synecdoche, so I can excuse your inability to comprehend even though the my reference to 'technical' work force should have given you an idea that the matter relates to blue collar jobs in general which leads me to the next point.

2. You seem not to know that blue collar jobs are the backbone of industrialisation. No matter how many tertiary degrees you have, no matter how many innovations you can come up with, you need people who can put in sweat and blood to do the 'dirty' jobs. People with technical know-how and special skill sets. Those people whom you take for granted which brings me to my third point.

3. You come across as one of those who raise thier noses against honest Labour. You see a bricklayer or mechanic and see the person as sub-human. You think they contribute nothing to the economy.

Let's be real here—blaming the absence of bricklayers and iron benders for Nigeria's industrial woes is like blaming a lack of staplers for a failed office. It's a classic case of putting the cart two kilometers ahead of the horse.

The truth is, Nigeria's industrialization problems run much deeper. Here are the real reasons:

1. Oil addiction: Nigeria's economy is stuck on oil, and it's been so cushy that the government has zero incentive to diversify. Meanwhile, other sectors like manufacturing and agriculture are left to wither on the vine.

2. Shoddy infrastructure: Nigeria’s infrastructure is a joke. Roads? A nightmare. Ports? A disaster. Electricity? Well, good luck with that one. It's no surprise businesses can't grow with these kinds of obstacles.

3. No cash flow: Small and medium-sized businesses in Nigeria can't get their hands on any meaningful financing. So while they’re stuck in survival mode, they can’t invest, expand, or hire enough people to actually make a dent in industrial growth.

4. Security disaster: Boko Haram, kidnappings, armed robbery—Nigeria is practically a security minefield. Who would want to invest in a country that feels like a warzone?

While having skilled artisans like bricklayers and iron benders is essential for any economy, it's not the primary reason for Nigeria's lack of industrialization. Addressing the above-mentioned challenges will create a more conducive environment for industrial growth and development.

Lastly, I'd like to remind you that discussing complex issues like industrialization requires a nuanced and respectful approach which your are obviously in no position to offer. Your initial response came across as condescending and dismissive. I encourage you to engage in constructive dialogue, listening to opposing views. Avoid being rude and condescending, especially when discussing topics you have not thoroughly thought through.
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by Softmirror: 8:08am On Nov 30
ArcSEMPECJ:


A low life praising the son of another ....lols

Wish we can have a recommendation from you but we don't need to prove anything to you.....


You must have gone through the profile and realized you are the big fool but how to apologize became difficult and as a low life and like a man drowning, you decided to attack me ...lols

I won't disclose my profile to you, before you start worshipping and praising me ..

You need serious rehabilitation anyways, I wish you well...

Lol 😂 his father was the chairman of tailoring association of Nigeria, that is craftsmanship not University degree, he grew in ranks at the textile industry as a labour chairman and continue to grow. Sincerely if not for his father, Oshomole's son would not have stood a chance at all. That's the truth of the matter. Lol 😂. Eyah i see say you dey vex oh. Good morning.🤗 Of course Oshomole is talking from his own personal experience and of course it is not far from the truth.

Let me tell you, there are millions of houses today standing erect designed and built by bricklayers and the news about so many building collapse in Nigeria are designed and supervised by Architects.
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by ivandragon: 8:14am On Nov 30
Kbrule:


Let's be real here—blaming the absence of bricklayers and iron benders for Nigeria's industrial woes is like blaming a lack of staplers for a failed office. It's a classic case of putting the cart two kilometers ahead of the horse.

The truth is, Nigeria's industrialization problems run much deeper. Here are the real reasons:

1. Oil addiction: Nigeria's economy is stuck on oil, and it's been so cushy that the government has zero incentive to diversify. Meanwhile, other sectors like manufacturing and agriculture are left to wither on the vine.

2. Shoddy infrastructure: Nigeria’s infrastructure is a joke. Roads? A nightmare. Ports? A disaster. Electricity? Well, good luck with that one. It's no surprise businesses can't grow with these kinds of obstacles.

3. No cash flow: Small and medium-sized businesses in Nigeria can't get their hands on any meaningful financing. So while they’re stuck in survival mode, they can’t invest, expand, or hire enough people to actually make a dent in industrial growth.

4. Security disaster: Boko Haram, kidnappings, armed robbery—Nigeria is practically a security minefield. Who would want to invest in a country that feels like a warzone?

While having skilled artisans like bricklayers and iron benders is essential for any economy, it's not the primary reason for Nigeria's lack of industrialization. Addressing the above-mentioned challenges will create a more conducive environment for industrial growth and development.

Lastly, I'd like to remind you that discussing complex issues like industrialization requires a nuanced and respectful approach which your are obviously in no position to offer. Your initial response came across as condescending and dismissive. I encourage you to engage in constructive dialogue, listening to opposing views. Avoid being rude and condescending, especially when discussing topics you have not thoroughly thought through.

You should learn to read and understand a person's comments so you do not ask condescending questions that get you condescending responses.

You have spoken about socioeconomic conditions impeding industrialization in Nigeria, didn't I make reference to socioeconomic conditions as a problem? Or don't the bricklayers and iron benders exist within the socioeconomic conditions you just listed?
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by BlessedGift: 8:32am On Nov 30
Sure they do, they are part of the larger economy
ivandragon:


You should learn to read and understand a person's comments so you do not ask condescending questions that get you condescending responses.

You have spoken about socioeconomic conditions impeding industrialization in Nigeria, didn't I make reference to socioeconomic conditions as a problem? Or don't the bricklayers and iron benders exist within the socioeconomic conditions you just listed?

Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by tctrills: 9:20am On Nov 30
ivandragon:


It was not meaningful or impactful to you because you you already had a preconceived notion or opinion, which you are entitled to. You need to stop trying to throw your weight around when you cannot grasp or understand a comment.
You are still refusing to understand. I fully get your comment. It was clear enough but completely irrelevant.
Again, you have had the opportunity to make useful comment but you seem fixed on defending your past comment. Let's move on, we shouldn't beat this issue to death. It's not worth it.
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by BlessedGift: 9:25am On Nov 30
Lol...
tctrills:

You are still refusing to understand. I fully get your comment. It was clear enough but completely irrelevant.
Again, you have had the opportunity to make useful comment but you seem fixed on defending your past comment. Let's move on, we shouldn't beat this issue to death. It's not worth it.
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by ivandragon: 10:49am On Nov 30
tctrills:

You are still refusing to understand. I fully get your comment. It was clear enough but completely irrelevant.
Again, you have had the opportunity to make useful comment but you seem fixed on defending your past comment. Let's move on, we shouldn't beat this issue to death. It's not worth it.

You are the one that has some infantile fixation on my 'irrelevant' comment and keeps running around in circles trying to justify your lack of understanding.
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by tctrills: 11:08am On Nov 30
ivandragon:


You are the one that has some infantile fixation on my 'irrelevant' comment and keeps running around in circles trying to justify your lack of understanding.

Oya nah no problem you can run off. Enjoy
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by ivandragon: 11:23am On Nov 30
tctrills:

Oya nah no problem you can run off. Enjoy


Good riddance. Hopefully you have learnt to be more introspective. Have a nice weekend.
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by aribisala0(m): 11:34am On Nov 30
BlessedGift:
Partially? How?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFFFcC-GyII
I am not here to teach you English
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by Ebenezer2021(m): 3:09pm On Nov 30
Sheuns:
Why did you not choose the path of bricklaying and iron bending?

You have children and grandchildren. Start from them too.
God bless you for Being logical
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by BlessedGift: 3:48pm On Nov 30
Okay Chief
aribisala0:

I am not here to teach you English
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by gold360(m): 4:08pm On Nov 30
madridguy:
How many technical college/school you build as a governor or as a senator Pa Adams?

don't mind the hypocrite
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by BlessedGift: 12:36am On Dec 01
Lol
gold360:
don't mind the hypocrite
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by ArcSEMPECJ(m): 8:31pm On Dec 01
Softmirror:


Lol 😂 his father was the chairman of tailoring association of Nigeria, that is craftsmanship not University degree, he grew in ranks at the textile industry as a labour chairman and continue to grow. Sincerely if not for his father, Oshomole's son would not have stood a chance at all. That's the truth of the matter. Lol 😂. Eyah i see say you dey vex oh. Good morning.🤗 Of course Oshomole is talking from his own personal experience and of course it is not far from the truth.

Let me tell you, there are millions of houses today standing erect designed and built by bricklayers and the news about so many building collapse in Nigeria are designed and supervised by Architects.

Wish you are in the right echelon with me to discuss this but sorry ,your line of argument does not show you want to be educated concerning your confusion....
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by BlessedGift: 1:32am On Dec 02
Gbam, easy bro
ArcSEMPECJ:


Wish you are in the right echelon with me to discuss this but sorry ,your line of argument does not show you want to be educated concerning your confusion....

Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by Stayingalive: 7:05am On Dec 02
ivandragon:


You should learn to read and understand a person's comments so you do not ask condescending questions that get you condescending responses.

You have spoken about socioeconomic conditions impeding industrialization in Nigeria, didn't I make reference to socioeconomic conditions as a problem? Or don't the bricklayers and iron benders exist within the socioeconomic conditions you just listed?

Stop talking amiss.
Nigeria is raided by corrupt politicians you’re here speaking gibberish
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by BlessedGift: 7:10am On Dec 02
No vex
Stayingalive:

Stop talking amiss.
Nigeria is raided by corrupt politicians you’re here speaking gibberish
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by ivandragon: 7:42am On Dec 02
Stayingalive:

Stop talking amiss.
Nigeria is raided by corrupt politicians you’re here speaking gibberish

Typical rants of a dumb fellow.

You do not understand what the subject matter is, but you feel you must spread your stinking opinion.
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by BlessedGift: 8:07am On Dec 02
Hmmmm, easy please
ivandragon:


Typical rants of a dumb fellow.

You do not understand what the subject matter is, but you feel you must spread your stinking opinion.
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by Stayingalive: 9:01am On Dec 02
ivandragon:


Typical rants of a dumb fellow.

You do not understand what the subject matter is, but you feel you must spread your stinking opinion.
Political tout
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by ivandragon: 9:08am On Dec 02
Stayingalive:
Political tout

Stop grasping at straws and trying to categorise people using your characteristics.

That you are a pitiful political tout doesn't mean people who respond to your mannerless and illogical opinions are in the same shoes as you. Some of us just don't take rubbish from louts such as yourself.
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by commoditiesnig: 9:25am On Dec 02
obailala:
Yes...

To industrialise a nation, technical skills are far more needed than paper degrees of engineers and project managers. Unfortunately in Nigeria, even highly skilled artisans are paid peanuts and regarded as lower humans, so no one wants to learn those skills.
Gbam! That's how countries like Germany and China developed. They prioritized Technical skills/education.

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Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by BlessedGift: 9:33am On Dec 02
True


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFFFcC-GyII
commoditiesnig:

Gbam! That's how countries like Germany and China developed. They prioritized Technical skills/education.
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by blueAgent(m): 9:13pm On Dec 02
wirinet:

You seem to conflate artisans with engineers. Artisans are the basic or rudimentary semi - skilled worker that can only handle basic tasks. For example, an electrician (artisan) can wire a small bungalow, but it would be stupid and suicidal to task an electrician to wire a high rise building or a hospital. You would need an electrical engineer for more complex wiring. Same with plumbing or any other building services.
What's the difference from what you wrote and what i said before?
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by Stayingalive: 9:56pm On Dec 02
ivandragon:


Stop grasping at straws and trying to categorise people using your characteristics.

That you are a pitiful political tout doesn't mean people who respond to your mannerless and illogical opinions are in the same shoes as you. Some of us just don't take rubbish from louts such as yourself.
Reading this, one would mistakingly count you as one a normal person.
Meanwhile it is a political madman writing English
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by ivandragon: 1:54am On Dec 03
Stayingalive:

Reading this, one would mistakingly count you as one a normal person.
Meanwhile it is a political madman writing English

The lout with a big mouth...

One only has to look at your initual comment to know that you are obviously the deranged slowpoke.
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by BlessedGift: 2:43am On Dec 03
Easy
ivandragon:


The lout with a big mouth...

One only has to look at your initual comment to know that you are obviously the deranged slowpoke.
Re: We Need Bricklayers, Iron Benders In Nigeria, Not Varsity Products - Oshiomhole by Artscollection: 2:52am On Dec 03
Christistruth02:



They are needed

We have more iron benders n bricklayers more than graduate engineers. Most of them are jobless, my phone no dey rest because of them. You people should stop listening to those criminals because they are not in touch with reality.

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