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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by AngelicBeing: 6:34pm On Jan 06
diamond68:
it is what it is brah. Nigga gotta eat 😆😆😆😆.
lt is well, "Tough times never last but tough people do" ~ Robert Schuller cool

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by smokinloud(m): 6:36pm On Jan 06
chukwuma234:


You need to read Nigeria's history. Yes the East have been cheated right after the civil war.
Give us an example of the "cheating" let's see if it's a problem exclusive to you.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by NewHe: 6:37pm On Jan 06
We can all see why Nigeria is at this state? Wetin ...know than goro
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by riverbird: 6:42pm On Jan 06
But of a truth this bill if passed it will really with the north and middle belt region, just take a look at plateau state that's only 3 companies in the state
Coca-cola
Nasco
The fertilizer plant in bokkos
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Etosha: 6:43pm On Jan 06
Iweakbro:
North and East are the problems of Nigeria.

One will not get educated, but choose to be a parasite.

The other is always feeling cheated and engaging in chest-beating.

One loquacious ibo man always tell me that the problem of Nigeria is ibo and Fulani.

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Mandate1: 6:47pm On Jan 06
I don't blv this tax reforms.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by smokinloud(m): 6:47pm On Jan 06
Umuinyioku:
Exactly.

The reforms must be carried out or they join their sahelian brethren to continue with their misrule and oppression.

Tinubu should not back down on these reforms.

It's because you don't know Tinubu. Tinubu does what he's convinced about no matter the obstacles. Go research about how he tackle Obasanjo on the issue of LG creation and Lagos state population. He came up with LCDAs to still defeat OBJ despite not having federal might. You now think it's the tax reform that he'll cower about when he's the president and have more than 70 percent of the senators in his pocket?. Let those Northern Governors shout as they can they won't do nada about this tax reform, it's not their prerogative, but we just have to keep quiet about it so that we'll not trigger unwanted hatred from our northern brothers

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by SeriouslySense(m): 6:49pm On Jan 06
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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Raph82(m): 6:50pm On Jan 06
Bigkoko:
Oyedele in 2019...... kicked against VAT, when Buhari wanted to make tax reforms, saying it will fuel inflation and make people poorer....

And, in a most arrogant display of hypocrisy,

Same Oyedele in 2025.....after getting appointment in his kinsman govt, suddenly feels VAT & Tax reforms is the best thing after gbegiri & Amala garnished with orishirishi..... what a people!

Humans without integrity! When the are outside Govt they speak with front mouth, when in gotv they speak with side mouth!

Heather hey are cleric ohhh, legal professors ohh or lowlife agberos, n the same thing!
The tax reform bill is different from what u claim Buhari wanted to do. Zero tax for Nigerians earning below 800k to 1m per annum, and many Nigerians fall into this category, so how is the poor taxed? I think NOA needs to orientate nigerians fully on this subject matter in all the regions in the dialect of each region. Local language of each locality should be used in explaining.

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Buhari4dullard: 6:55pm On Jan 06
Allogic:
which south, and what resources.
Mineral resource, south.
Human Resource (NYSC), south.
Foreign Exchange, South
The only thing the North has is allah & violence.
Meanwhile God blessed the south
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by smokinloud(m): 6:56pm On Jan 06
Deepthoughts:
I think the interview should have included an expert from the opponents of the bill to ask Mr Ayodele some critical questions bordering on their areas of concern or the interview organizers should have gotten list of questions from the opponents to ask Mr Ayodele so that the public can be properly informed about the tax reform issues,I have a very strong feeling that there are hidden but sticking points in this tax reform discourse that if not openly sincerely n adequately address might be the source of friction in the future.
There's nothing skeptical about the reform, the only thing about it is that it is anti-parasitic which Northerners don't want.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Jeezuzpick(m): 7:05pm On Jan 06
Buhari4dullard:
The North does not want reform.

The south that generates the resources wants reform.

They voted "muslim-muslim ticket" thinking it was some sort of "jihad".

Well......here goes.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by israelmao(m): 7:05pm On Jan 06
I am yet to found where he mentioned the word "CONFUSED".

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Iweakbro: 7:12pm On Jan 06
chukwuma234:


You need to read Nigeria's history. Yes the East have been cheated right after the civil war.

Aguiyi Ironsi dissolved the regional government. Zik prevented the country from being split. According to history, biafra captured a huge swathe of the south, but Ojukwu's greed pushed them to think of capturing lagos which was the beginning of the end.

So, who is to blame?
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Raph82(m): 7:15pm On Jan 06
OneOnland:

From what I know of the bill, let me give you my own explanation.

VAT is tax paid on finished goods/services that reach the final consumer (e.g. turkey eventually consumed, hotel bills eventually settled, construction materials eventually used), it is based on 15% of retail price. Some add it to the price that final consumers are to see and so on. Final consumers then pay the retail price plus that tax.

Normally, this tax is to be remitted by the retailer. However, in Nigeria, because of some acute lack of organization in its part, it is even remitted by the manufacturers/distributors. And because of that, VAT is remitted by Lagos State (hq of the manufacturer) instead of in the various states in Nigeria and by the retailers.

FG wants to better organize the VAT taxing structure, and at that, wouldn't be collected by FIRS (FG tax collector), but by each state's IRS (each state's tax collectors) instead.

And further, rather than FG pooling the VAT tax revenue, and then sharing it to the states using the FAAC sharing formula, FG says the states having collected it by themselves would then take 85% of it and give the FG 15%. This is equitable, right? In almost all countries of the world, sales tax is the state's responsibility.

The North opposes it for these:
If your state's people are poor, and do not consume plenty things, or expensive items, or luxurious items, your state's VAT revenue would be low.
Also, if your state's tax collection is inefficient or sharia no tax-bound, your state's VAT revenue would be low.

So, the North believes that their people consume poorly and their VAT would be low compared to if Lagos State or River state share theirs with them for example.
Also, they don't collect taxes, except maybe Kano, and even so, little compared to other ever-tax-ready states of the South, so they believe their revenue would be low compared to if the inefficient VAT'ing system still sticks.


The FG continues to say that, no, eventually, there'd be benefits to those Northern states inasmuch as they encourage productivity and developments in their states, and in which increases incomes and increase consumption, hence high VAT revenue, but apparently, that seems like death sentence to some of those state's governor.


With the above, I hope I have been able to explain the tax reform bill, in the simplest way.


And PS: states like Ekiti state in South may also be badly affected by it, and that's the point, each state's government should also work on developments from the grassroot in order for them to reap high state revenues.
Thoroughly explained. U see, I don't understand the hypocritical game of these northerners. U don't collect vat because ur religion forbids it, but you are fighting hard for the vat collected from other hardworking states. U keep destroying the brewery products that come in to ur state tagging it haram, but u're claiming full entitlement to the vat collected on those products. Beer is haram, but the vat collected on beer is holy. Even in United Arab Emirate, they allow beer consumption. Tax reform bill or no more Nigeria, shikena.

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Iweakbro: 7:16pm On Jan 06
Greenback:

Leave the easterners alone for once in your life,habaaaa!!!!

Can't you ever concentrate on your life and existence without focusing your entire life on the Igbo people?!

We are all tired of hearing and seeing this everyday... Someone is chest-beating and that is a national problem!
That is the problem of your life!
Haaa!
please be useful... happy new year o...

I am Igbo too, but from Delta (Anioma). I'm just telling the truth. You guys should unite and stop segregating among yourselves. I've lived in Onitsha, Enugu, and Ebonyi.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Iweakbro: 7:17pm On Jan 06
Umuinyioku:
Rubbish talk from rubbish Man.

What do you mean by feeling cheated and engaging in chest-beating?

Are you being sincere with your negative comments😆


You just confirmed what I said. Since what I said is not true, why are you upset?
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by t2luv1: 7:28pm On Jan 06
Buhari4dullard:
The North does not want reform.

The south that generates the resources wants reform.

Be careful what you wish for. This supposed tax reform also proposes that any person making N5m per month will be taxed at a fixed rate. All fine and good but tell me how are they going to know if someone is actually making N5M per month? I bet you they will be asking banks or monthly deposits against accounts... So a trader that buys goods worth N4m turns around and sells for N5m . Will the government tax the N1m profit or will they tax the N5m? Knowing how things work in Nigeria, this trader will have to jump through various layers of bureaucracy just to be treated right. Look Nigeria is not mature enough for what they are proposing. Why should VAT apply to simple phone calls? VAT is for value-added tax what value is being added to a phone call ? Nigerian goes to Europe, and noticed VAT then come back to the country and introduce the VAT concept. How come the USA never adopted the VAT tax system?
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Yampotatocarrot(m): 7:45pm On Jan 06
Deepthoughts:
I think the interview should have included an expert from the opponents of the bill to ask Mr Ayodele some critical questions bordering on their areas of concern or the interview organizers should have gotten list of questions from the opponents to ask Mr Ayodele so that the public can be properly informed about the tax reform issues,I have a very strong feeling that there are hidden but sticking points in this tax reform discourse that if not openly sincerely n adequately address might be the source of friction in the future.

I've watched Mr.Ayodele on several platforms and I've wondered why the organisers don't bring an expert from the opposite end of the divide to ask questions... It's the organisers asking him questions as if they're pampering him, and all his answers always sound too good to be true

If you listen to Mr.Ayodele alone, you'll begin to wonder why the northerners are against the bill, because from his angle, he is making it sound as if the bill will favour them more... If it's so, then what is/are the hidden clauses that's making the northerners rally against the bill?
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by victorv12(m): 7:46pm On Jan 06
mrrandomguy:
This man should be extremely careful spiritually and physically. They may try to poison him or set him up with waist bead/leg chain wearing women. They may even attack him spiritually by sitting on prayer mat while reciting satanic verses on his pictures.

Even if something were to happen to Ayodele, we have hundreds of capable Yoruba tax reformers ready to step in. The tax reform bill will pass.

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by patrickcollins: 8:07pm On Jan 06
Buhari4dullard:
The North does not want reform.

The south that generates the resources wants reform.
We don't need Tinubu's wicked reform, all his reforms are equivalent to hardship and improvishment
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by OneOnland: 8:12pm On Jan 06
Raph82:
Thoroughly explained. U see, I don't understand the hypocritical game of these northerners. U don't collect vat because ur religion forbids it, but you are fighting hard for the vat collected from other hardworking states. U keep destroying the brewery products that come in to ur state tagging it haram, but u're claiming full entitlement to the vat collected on those products. Beer is haram, but the vat collected on beer is holy. Even in United Arab Emirate, they allow beer consumption. Tax reform bill or no more Nigeria, shikena.
The North is extremely hypocritical. They form religious, they use religion as tool but they are >70% the origin of corruption, public funds stealing in Nigeria.

This tax reform issue that they are hellbent on letting it not pass just reveals their parasitic yet hypocritical nature to full glare.

That one, the Borno governor was even insinuating that the bill should spend 20 years in the house. Fakely religious, hypocritical, backward and wanting drag others backward, that's deep North Nigeria defined.

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Fujiyama: 8:17pm On Jan 06
t2luv1:


Be careful what you wish for. This supposed tax reform also proposes that any person making N5m per month will be taxed at a fixed rate. All fine and good but tell me how are they going to know if someone is actually making N5M per month? I bet you they will be asking banks or monthly deposits against accounts... So a trader that buys goods worth N4m turns around and sells for N5m . Will the government tax the N1m profit or will they tax the N5m? Knowing how things work in Nigeria, this trader will have to jump through various layers of bureaucracy just to be treated right. Look Nigeria is not mature enough for what they are proposing. Why should VAT apply to simple phone calls? VAT is for value-added tax what value is being added to a phone call ? Nigerian goes to Europe, and noticed VAT then come back to the country and introduce the VAT concept. How come the USA never adopted the VAT tax system?


^^^
Hmm...

Interesting submission.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Kewtt: 8:26pm On Jan 06
patrickcollins:
We don't need Tinubu's wicked reform, all his reforms are equivalent to hardship and improvishment
It must happen. If you don't like it...join Niger republic without our geographical land space
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by t2luv1: 8:37pm On Jan 06
Fujiyama:



^^^
Hmm...

Interesting submission.

Just the tip of the iceberg, Have you ever wondered why a plot of land in Nigeria 100' by 60'? Well our so-called people we sent to school in the UK came back and started doing what they were taught in UK schools. The UK has to do land management because they are an Island, but our bookworms never stop and ask that particular question. Now we all have houses built on top of houses in Nigeria with no room provided for air circulation. All clustered together. Come to the US you will never see house planning like that. Nigeria gained independence in 1960 till today we are still sucking from England's tits.

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Umuinyioku: 8:41pm On Jan 06
smokinloud:

It's because you don't know Tinubu. Tinubu does what he's convinced about no matter the obstacles. Go research about how he tackle Obasanjo on the issue of LG creation and Lagos state population. He came up with LCDAs to still defeat OBJ despite not having federal might. You now think it's the tax reform that he'll cower about when he's the president and have more than 70 percent of the senators in his pocket?. Let those Northern Governors shout as they can they won't do nada about this tax reform, it's not their prerogative, but we just have to keep quiet about it so that we'll not trigger unwanted hatred from our northern brothers
Ok

If he will not back down, the better. The country must move forward. Too stagnated to be a country!

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by skywalker240(m): 9:01pm On Jan 06
Roger3D:
Any policy coming from the Tinubu administration is wicked and evil
Coming from a die hard APC fan
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by nedu666: 9:02pm On Jan 06
smokinloud:

It's because you don't know Tinubu. Tinubu does what he's convinced about no matter the obstacles. Go research about how he tackle Obasanjo on the issue of LG creation and Lagos state population. He came up with LCDAs to still defeat OBJ despite not having federal might. You now think it's the tax reform that he'll cower about when he's the president and have more than 70 percent of the senators in his pocket?. Let those Northern Governors shout as they can they won't do nada about this tax reform, it's not their prerogative, but we just have to keep quiet about it so that we'll not trigger unwanted hatred from our northern brothers


And what happens to the tax law in 2031 when power returns to the north
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Umuinyioku: 9:05pm On Jan 06
Iweakbro:


You just confirmed what I said. Since what I said is not true, why are you upset?
I am not upset but to point out your gaffe in dealing with people.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Umuinyioku: 9:07pm On Jan 06
Iweakbro:


You just confirmed what I said. Since what I said is not true, why are you upset?
I am not upset. But to point your gaffe in shading ethnic group for their lifestyle.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Believeintruth: 9:07pm On Jan 06
Factcheck0001:
There's one thing about all these igbobedients that I don't understand

Anytime anyone from West or north complains of hunger or poverty they are quick to mock him with the line

"Shebi na una vote tinubu"..... meaning those people are suffering because they voted tinubu right?

These same people u will see them in another thread cursing yakubu for collecting money from tinubu to influence election

Like I don't understand

Is it that people truly voted tinubu or tinubu just paid yakubu to do the job?

Come are you mentally deranged? You really need to see a doctor. Where did you see any Igbo talk on the tax reforms? The same south east govs have backed rhe vill, but in your infinite stupidity you will always want to rope igbos into it.
This your mental illness needs treatment fast before you will run to the market naked and you will be certified a mad person.

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by skywalker240(m): 9:12pm On Jan 06
JASONjnr:
The current VAT system is cheating states that go all out to accommodate investors to generate revenues while others only wait on government allocations....

It should be changed to the proposed VAT system where the value is forwarded to their headquarters...This way, the head financial officer will analyse what each state is generating.

The North harbours intelligent elites amongst them but also act very unintelligent about national issues.

Yes and when ever a northerner rules he always makes intelligent decisions like buhari did right?

Rest

Nothing like intelligent, when it comes to classifying the average northern elite

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