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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by seunjungle1(m): 9:15pm On Jan 06
Softmirror:


The bolded is just is a big lie. IT IS ALL ABOUT INTEREST. It is about what 'some' people stand to gain.


We have seen how the same Tinubu who said he doesn't believe in one Nigeria becoming the president of the same ONE Nigeria. If by crook and crude he was denied being the legitimate winner of the last election. I bet, Tinubu would have become the number one supporter of Sunday Igboho.

Same applies to Igbos let's not even talk about Ojukwu's selfish ambition of a Biafra that cost the lives of Igbos who are still blind till today, same Ojukwu contested to become president of the same Nigeria he claimed not to believe in. Mind you his wife Bianca is currently a minister in Tinubu's administration which she is so proud of being a part of the Nigerian Government and not being anti-Nigeria, an advocate of Biafra which her husband led his people to the slaughter for his own selfish interest.

Or should we talk about the pro Biafrans who suddenly became pro Nigerians, ? All because a fellow Igbo man by the name Peter Obi who was contesting to become president of same Nigeria they call a Zoo?

The same core North, Kano State recently had posters of Good luck Jonathan flying around. Of course he is not a Muslim and neither from the North.




You did not finish your story guyman....

The same core North, Kano State recently had posters of Good luck Jonathan flying around. Of course he is not a Muslim and neither from the North....
The same core north that used propaganda to finished Jonathan govt suddenly want him to come back to govt all because Jagaban refused to do their bids

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by skywalker240(m): 9:18pm On Jan 06
mrrandomguy:
Parasites. They cannot generate revenue but they know how to spend money. Monkey dey work, baboon dey chop.

Core Northerners don't trust anyone who is not a core Northerner, especially Yorubas, Christian Middle belters and Igbos. Yet, they don't want the country to disintegrate and be independent.

I blame the so called educated political correct confused southerners who still believes that Nigeria can be better with these Aboki people.
Fixed
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by damoobaba: 9:21pm On Jan 06
ejieddy:
I don't agree with this administration almost every time because they are confused, corrupt and waste resources but i do agree with this tax reform. It must happen.

Mumu, you understand nothing about the tax reform bill. The fact that the entire south supports it and the North is unhappy is the reason you agree with the bill.

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by smokinloud(m): 9:28pm On Jan 06
nedu666:



And what happens to the tax law in 2031 when power returns to the north
How many laws have been abrogated in Nigeria?!. Laws are seldom abrogated I think.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by skywalker240(m): 9:31pm On Jan 06
francotunsco:
The northerners' stance on this tax reform bill reminds of my grandma.

She raised me from one year old.

She brought me up with 'agbo', 'agunmu', 'epa ijebu', 'ogun ile tutu' and so on... All na bitters!

Mama never give me anything sweet unless we eating food proper!

Heaven was let loose on a faithful day mama wanted to give me honey to lick after I sustained one injury in the leg after riding bicycle with stolen money!

Omoh, I no gree collect that thing ooo...

It took 4 hefty men to hold me, they persuaded me that it was sweet and not the usual bitters.

I no still gree...

They tried until they successfully overpowered me, behold!
A drop of honey entered my tongue!

Guy man body calm down immediately...😄😄

I was ashamed of myself. Everyone started laughing at me.

Lesson: It was hard for me to believe that grandma will ever give me anything sweet.

Finally, I searched the whole house the next morning until I discovered where mama kept the honey container!

Guess what?

..........

Also, as beneficial as the tax reform bill would be to the northerners, they won't be so quick to accept it. They will be thinking it was intended to shortchange them as a people.

Let's continue to educate and orientate them until they will agree.

After all we can't find any 4 hefty interventions to force the reform in their throat! 😁😃😄

Ire ooo....
If the northerner's can't study the Bill, and then waiting to be educated, then what do you call laziness?

The parasites should be left behind to their illiteracy

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Softmirror: 9:34pm On Jan 06
seunjungle1:





You did not finish your story guyman....

The same core North, Kano State recently had posters of Good luck Jonathan flying around. Of course he is not a Muslim and neither from the North....
The same core north that used propaganda to finished Jonathan govt suddenly want him to come back to govt all because Jagaban refused to do their bids

Exactly 💯% about interest about what they stand to gain. Pure and simple.

To say Jagaban is not doing their bidding is another big fat lie.

What biding?!
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by skywalker240(m): 9:37pm On Jan 06
Lithiumite:


Tinubu got it wrong from the onset....when is saw the composition of that committee,I knew there would be problems......it was a direct affront on the egos of our dysfunctional politicians......it's too late,tinubu should rather sink or swim with this bill and veto if possible.
Even if that's what it's going to take
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by NybenSBF101(m): 9:44pm On Jan 06
This tax reform only benefits one State and that's Lagos State. If passed every major institution will be forced covertly to relocate to Lagos.
Tinubu na real thief, he knows what he is doing. 2027 is not sure for him and Seyi Tinubu will likely replace Sanwo Olu, connect the dots
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by skywalker240(m): 9:44pm On Jan 06
smokinloud:

The reason we call you parasites is not because you farm but because despite your agriculture output your people have the poorest population that can't feed themselves and more than 70 percent of your agricultural produce are transported to the modernised Southern region. You have nothing tangible to offer other than ISLAMISM and BACKWARDNESS. The South has better option for buying their foodstuff, Benin Republic, Cameroon, Côte d'Ivoire etc, but your elites don't want us to buy from them. They restrict every effort of importing food from those our neighbours because it'll hurt you for you don't even have the CONSUMER MARKET to buy all your agricultural produce. The only thing you contribute to the union of this country is your population and "chopping" of Southern wealth.
Thanks the guy doesn't know that. "We grow the food that feed you" line is already stale and DOA

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Greenback: 9:47pm On Jan 06
Iweakbro:


I am Igbo too, but from Delta (Anioma). I'm just telling the truth. You guys should unite and stop segregating among yourselves. I've lived in Onitsha, Enugu, and Ebonyi.

Oga this one nor be talk..this is just petty gossip..and I nor be Igbo....we are just fed up with this Igbo this and that everyday.... We all want to know how to move this country forward...how to be free from perennial darkness,power outages. How to survive this harsh economy...how to give the best to our children...and above all, how we southerners should liberate ourselves from these parasitic northern oligarchs and their hegemony... What is Igbo this and that,chest- beating,tori Oloun!!!!?

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Greenback: 9:50pm On Jan 06
LZAA:

Happy new year bro
Eseun my dear brother 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

I wish you the very best this year.🎉🎉🎉🎉

God bless you wherever you are,bless the thing you doing 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by nedu666: 9:53pm On Jan 06
smokinloud:

How many laws have been abrogated in Nigeria?!. Laws are seldom abrogated I think.

Those laws don't affect the pocket. This one affects the pocket of some people
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Iweakbro: 10:09pm On Jan 06
Greenback:


Oga this one nor be talk..this is just petty gossip..and I nor be Igbo....we are just fed up with this Igbo this and that everyday.... We all want to know how to move this country forward...how to be free from perennial darkness,power outages. How to survive this harsh economy...how to give the best to our children...and above all, how we southerners should liberate ourselves from these parasitic northern oligarchs and their hegemony... What is Igbo this and that,chest- beating,tori Oloun!!!!?

You are Igbo.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Iweakbro: 10:11pm On Jan 06
Umuinyioku:
I am not upset. But to point your gaffe in shading ethnic groups for their lifestyle.

Why are they all pessimistic? Expecting the country to fail just because their candidate lost?

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Deepthoughts: 10:15pm On Jan 06
Yampotatocarrot:


I've watched Mr.Ayodele on several platforms and I've wondered why the organisers don't bring an expert from the opposite end of the divide to ask questions... It's the organisers asking him questions as if they're pampering him, and all his answers always sound too good to be true

If you listen to Mr.Ayodele alone, you'll begin to wonder why the northerners are against the bill, because from his angle, he is making it sound as if the bill will favour them more... If it's so, then what is/are the hidden clauses that's making the northerners rally against the bill?
I agree with you completely.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Deepthoughts: 10:22pm On Jan 06
Paramount01:


But none of the northern Governor has come out openly to say why he don't want the tax reforms.the only things they are saying is that they will not be able to pay salary.How? They keep mute.
The northern governors have been making statements actually,they are trying to forge a common front so they are speaking through the NEF mostly,just few days ago AM DAGASHA a retired air force general of the NEF made a statement on behalf of the north,the media people certainly know those they can contact to get the real position of the north from,if efforts are not made to sincerely n openly. clear the grey areas of the tax reform bills, I'm afraid that it may eventually fail
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by phadul: 10:26pm On Jan 06
mrrandomguy:
Parasites. They cannot generate revenue but they know how to spend money. Monkey dey work, baboon dey chop.

Core Northerners don't trust anyone who is not a core Northerner, especially Yorubas, Christian Middle belters and Igbos. Yet, they don't want the country to disintegrate and be independent.

I blame the so called educated southerners who still believes that Nigeria can be better with these Aboki people.
this is the problem of this country you don't know anything about the north except what you hear from media and you make judgements on what you don't understand keep living in ignorance my Friend which also means aboki in Hausa ! But to you u think it's a kind of insult to us whereas it's a compliment
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Umuinyioku: 10:27pm On Jan 06
Iweakbro:


Why are they all pessimistic? Expecting the country to fail just because their candidate lost?
Not so. Nobody wish the country Bad.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by smokinloud(m): 11:08pm On Jan 06
nedu666:


Those laws don't affect the pocket. This one affects the pocket of some people
Well, I concede but l think the improvement it brings to the South would make Southern reject any amendment of the tax reform.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by blackboy(m): 11:49pm On Jan 06
Do not generalize. That is the mistake being made. North north north north...name names. In the north they have so many dialects, languages, they are not all Muslims, Hausa is not their language and they have different tribes so many. Some clowns will come out toake themselves important and divide the country further by saying north says this...which north...who in the north? Mention the names of the governors or northern man or woman making himself important or trying to cause problems. Is Nnamdi kanu the East? No, no 1 man can speak for the east or a group. Do not be deceived
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Fujiyama: 11:52pm On Jan 06
Looking4Trouble:
They are not acting confused, the illiterates are confused. Parasites will starve to death.

Dem never know. These Parasites from the desert do not know whom they are playing the Political Chess with. They are playing with the god of Politics.

^^^
cheesy

Nonsense!

In the end, he is only a politician. If he finally does what politicians do - and makes a deal that leaves ordinary Nigerians worse off - all this hot air won't count for anything.

Looking4Trouble:
Even if no human nor spirit supports the Bills, we will pass them.

^^^
cheesy

Time will tell.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Fujiyama: 11:59pm On Jan 06
damoobaba:


Mumu, you understand nothing about the tax reform bill. The fact that the entire south supports it and the North is unhappy is the reason you agree with the bill.

^^^
False.

There is a Governors Forum. What did it say about the tax bills?

There is a Southern Governors Forum. What did it say about the tax bills? Or is only during elections that the SGF finds its voice?
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by GoodLife4live: 1:10am On Jan 07
NybenSBF101:
This tax reform only benefits one State and that's Lagos State. If passed every major institution will be forced covertly to relocate to Lagos.
Tinubu na real thief, he knows what he is doing. 2027 is not sure for him and Seyi Tinubu will likely replace Sanwo Olu, connect the dots
dullard....I am also a northerner like u... I am I. Support of the vat ..

This vat reform will stop insecurity in the North....

Northern governors will sit-up and fight insecurity...

Read this explanation below ...written by fellow Nairalander

From what I know of the bill, let me give you my own explanation.

VAT is tax paid on finished goods/services that reach the final consumer (e.g. turkey eventually consumed, hotel bills eventually settled, construction materials eventually used), it is based on 15% of retail price. Some add it to the price that final consumers are to see and so on. Final consumers then pay the retail price plus that tax.

Normally, this tax is to be remitted by the retailer. However, in Nigeria, because of some acute lack of organization in its part, it is even remitted by the manufacturers/distributors. And because of that, VAT is remitted by Lagos State (hq of the manufacturer) instead of in the various states in Nigeria and by the retailers.

FG wants to better organize the VAT taxing structure, and at that, wouldn't be collected by FIRS (FG tax collector), but by each state's IRS (each state's tax collectors) instead.

And further, rather than FG pooling the VAT tax revenue, and then sharing it to the states using the FAAC sharing formula, FG says the states having collected it by themselves would then take 85% of it and give the FG 15%. This is equitable, right? In almost all countries of the world, sales tax is the state's responsibility.

The North opposes it for these:
If your state's people are poor, and do not consume plenty things, or expensive items, or luxurious items, your state's VAT revenue would be low.
Also, if your state's tax collection is inefficient or sharia no tax-bound, your state's VAT revenue would be low.

So, the North believes that their people consume poorly and their VAT would be low compared to if Lagos State or River state share theirs with them for example.
Also, they don't collect taxes, except maybe Kano, and even so, little compared to other ever-tax-ready states of the South, so they believe their revenue would be low compared to if the inefficient VAT'ing system still sticks.


The FG continues to say that, no, eventually, there'd be benefits to those Northern states inasmuch as they encourage productivity and developments in their states, and in which increases incomes and increase consumption, hence high VAT revenue, but apparently, that seems like death sentence to some of those state's governor.


With the above, I hope I have been able to explain the tax reform bill, in the simplest way.


And PS: states like Ekiti state in South may also be badly affected by it, and that's the point, each state's government should also work on developments from the grassroot in order for them to reap high state revenues.

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Femeto: 2:40am On Jan 07
This Oyedele just one force one nonsense task bill ontop people head. They have the right to complain.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by mrrandomguy: 3:01am On Jan 07
nedu666:

And what happens to the tax law in 2031 when power returns to the north
Then, Tinubu will be Nigeria's last president.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by ejieddy: 3:13am On Jan 07
damoobaba:


Mumu, you understand nothing about the tax reform bill. The fact that the entire south supports it and the North is unhappy is the reason you agree with the bill.

Ode, exactly. But i do understand perfectly that a region that has and adds no value to oir country can't keep sharing proceeds from another region. There will be no more sharing of everybody's money. Make your money and keep it. We are tired of catering for foolish people like you

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by badman007(m): 3:28am On Jan 07
mrrandomguy:
Parasites. They cannot generate revenue but they know how to spend money. Monkey dey work, baboon dey chop.

Core Northerners don't trust anyone who is not a core Northerner, especially Yorubas, Christian Middle belters and Igbos. Yet, they don't want the country to disintegrate and be independent.

I blame the so called educated southerners who still believes that Nigeria can be better with these Aboki people.

They are good for nothing idiots. Including and especially the so called I better pass my neighbours Christians.

No light, no school, no security or healthcare for our children despite our numerous resources.

E no go better for Abraham and Adam, the fathers of late Jesus and Mohamed for our senseless suffering
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Bigkoko: 3:50am On Jan 07
In respect to what you think, this Reform is done in bad faith, filled with half truths and other stuffs a Govt of propaganda is wont to do....

The devil is in the details..... Go read the full Bill. You will quickly realized it's full of bullshit.

If anyone, let alone Asiwaju is serious about reforming taxes in Nigeria, VAT must not be centralized, and conglomerates with nationwide spread must not be allowed to remittances from their HQ which for obvious reasons will be from Lagos or Ogun.

Companies like Coca cola whose income come from all over Nigeria should remit VAT state by state ditto alcohol companies.

Then, Agriculture & Shipping should also be reformed too. States should be allowed to to pass export tax on all produces moving to other states. Should Asiwaju over looked other sectors because it doesn't favor him, his state or region?

No be advantage we wan take of others, let everyone be taking advantage of everyone let's see how far the country will survive.

Raph82:
The tax reform bill is different from what u claim Buhari wanted to do. Zero tax for Nigerians earning below 800k to 1m per annum, and many Nigerians fall into this category, so how is the poor taxed? I think NOA needs to orientate nigerians fully on this subject matter in all the regions in the dialect of each region. Local language of each locality should be used in explaining.
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Bigkoko: 3:56am On Jan 07
As receyas last month, December 2024. Oyo collected allocation from the FAAC account, whose income comes mainly from proceeds of Oil & Gas..... Has Oyo become an Oil Gas producing state in Nigeria?

If no, then that Oyo you know, led by Makinde is a full blown parasite living off the body of it's hosts..... States producing oil Gas in Nigeria!

I won't be surprised many of you don't even know the meaning of parasite.....lol


Paraman:
Which Oyo are you talking about?
Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Raph82(m): 5:50am On Jan 07
Bigkoko:
In respect to what you think, this Reform is done in bad faith, filled with half truths and other stuffs a Govt of propaganda is wont to do....

The devil is in the details..... Go read the full Bill. You will quickly realized it's full of bullshit.

If anyone, let alone Asiwaju is serious about reforming taxes in Nigeria, VAT must not be centralized, and conglomerates with nationwide spread must not be allowed to remittances from their HQ which for obvious reasons will be from Lagos or Ogun.

Companies like Coca cola whose income come from all over Nigeria should remit VAT state by state ditto alcohol companies.

Then, Agriculture & Shipping should also be reformed too. States should be allowed to to pass export tax on all produces moving to other states. Should Asiwaju over looked other sectors because it doesn't favor him, his state or region?ainstorming to see what

No be advantage we wan take of others, let everyone be taking advantage of everyone let's see how far the country will survive.
Nigeria should remit vat state by state, isn't that what this reform is all about? Each state should be remitting vat based on value-added products consumed, keep 85% and remit 15% to the federal pause. Most of agric products produced in the North like beans, groundnut, maize, foodstuffs generally are sent out to other states from the North without adding any value to it. Besides, the northerners are not taxed on the basis of religion, yet they want vat money at the expense of other hardworking states. This is more of a parasitic arrangement if u may ask me. This tax reform bill will make other states like Osun, Ekiti and the northern states sit tight and think out of the box. Since this reform uproar, Ekiti has been brainstorming all along, because they know that this will affect them.

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by LZAA: 6:51am On Jan 07
Greenback:

Eseun my dear brother 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

I wish you the very best this year.🎉🎉🎉🎉

God bless you wherever you are,bless the thing you doing 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Wish you the same💯

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Re: TAX Reforms: Northerners Acting Confused, As Oyedele Speaks by Paraman: 7:16am On Jan 07
Bigkoko:
As receyas last month, December 2024. Oyo collected allocation from the FAAC account, whose income comes mainly from proceeds of Oil & Gas..... Has Oyo become an Oil Gas producing state in Nigeria?

If no, then that Oyo you know, led by Makinde is a full blown parasite living off the body of it's hosts..... States producing oil Gas in Nigeria!

I won't be surprised many of you don't even know the meaning of parasite.....lol


If Oyo is a parasite state, wetin we go talk about Imo, Abia, Anambra, Enugu and Ebonyi state?

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