If there's one thing that Kanye West should have known before buying an $11 million mansion with Kim K, is that Kim is never letting go of her world-famous last name.
The marriage-tradition-observing Kanye seems to be very upset with his heartthrob Kim not wanting to change her last name for him. A source told Star Magazine:
"Kanye is very disappointed and upset about the whole thing but Kim refuses to budge."
Didn't Kanye know that Kim is a really adamant person, she always gets what she wants? Just like how she went on to marry Kriss against the opinion of her family.
Apart from that, it is also being said that she thinks their soon-to-be-born baby should bear her last name since it's become so famous on its own. As much as Kanye might let Kim stay a Kardashian, we don't think he'll allow that for his baby- that's like robbing him off his fatherly pride.
Kim obviously doesn't want her show to be 'Keeping Up With The Wests.' Hehe.

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He shudn't be sad now...didnt he know b4 dat he wanna marry a celeb

Kim should not change her last name to Kanye's last name.
She is not his daughter neither is she his property so why should she discard her last name for his?
Rubbish.
I don't even know where this nauseating culture of women throwing away their father's name came from. It is neither in the Bible nor the Qur'an and I don't know of any traditional religion that endorses it so why are people still taking it serious?
A man would sweat and suffer to train his daughter from kindergarten to university then when she marries she just tosses his name and starts bearing the name of another person that did not and will never be able to add to her life as much as her father did.
What an idiotic culture.

oluwadare26: He shudn't be sad now...didnt he know b4 dat he wanna marry a celeb

Ooooohhh he shlda married ur sister:O:O:O

#singing# U can`t turn a LovePeddler to a house-wife, that's for sure.......

ooooooo he thought changing her last name would be as easy as throwing his dick in her mouth hahhahahahaha I laugh in Gothic

fellis: Kim should not change her last name to Kanye's last name.
She is not his daughter neither is she his property so why should she discard her last name for his?
Rubbish.
I don't even know where this nauseating culture of women throwing away their father's name came from. It is neither in the Bible nor the Qur'an and I don't know of any traditional religion that endorses it so why are people still taking it serious?
A man would sweat and suffer to train his daughter from kindergarten to university then when she marries she just tosses his name and starts bearing the name of another person that did not and will never be able to add to her life as much as her father did.
What an idiotic culture.

pls keep the advise for your female family members. What name is ur mother using?

remecy:
pls keep the advise for your female family members. What name is ur mother using?

Hahaha
E dey pain you?
Is it paining you that I said women are not supposed to bear their husbands' names?
Make e pain you well well you hear? Truth will always remain the truth. It is not a command by God for women to bear husbands name. It is not in your Bible yet you men want the tradition to remain because you want to lie to yourselves that you are superior to women and they are your property. Fools.

Go Kim! Strong women don´t have to change their name

Goodluck89: Go Kim! Strong women don´t have to change their name

yeah right strong women aka women that have been married 4 times,hoose and desperados abi
make una de console ya them selves

remecy:

pls keep the advise for your female family members. What name is ur mother using?

Spot on.

fellis: Kim should not change her last name to Kanye's last name.
She is not his daughter neither is she his property so why should she discard her last name for his?
Rubbish.
I don't even know where this nauseating culture of women throwing away their father's name came from. It is neither in the Bible nor the Qur'an and I don't know of any traditional religion that endorses it so why are people still taking it serious?
A man would sweat and suffer to train his daughter from kindergarten to university then when she marries she just tosses his name and starts bearing the name of another person that did not and will never be able to add to her life as much as her father did.
What an idiotic culture.

I can tell you are really a weirdo. Its so all the members of a nuclear family can all have the same last name!!!
Mathew 19:5 and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? What part of this don't you understand

Morayo747: I can tell you are really a weirdo. Its so all the members of a nuclear family can all have the same last name!!!
Mathew 19:5 and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? What part of this don't you understand

This doesn't prove anything. Where in the Bible is it stated that a woman must bear her husband's last name? POINT OUT THE PART OF THE BIBLE THAT SAYS WOMEN MUST BEAR THEIR HUSBANDS' NAMES. POINT IT OUT! And stop posting irrelevant bible verses. Marriage does not mean that a woman should no longer a part of her father's family, she is still her father's daughter and she is still a sister to her siblings so throwing her family name away is quite idiotic.
Secondly, you mentioned that it is done so that all the members of the nuclear family can have the same last name. If that is the case then why can't men change their own last names to their wives' last name? Why are women the ones that should change their last names? Afterall the bible says a man will leave his father and mother. Man, and not woman, so if anything the man is the one that should be discarding his last name since he is the one that was commanded in the Bible to leave his family.
Mschew.
You'd better not come back here to challenge me unless you have a sensible argument.

Modified

allwestafrican:
yeah right strong women aka women that have been married 4 times,hoose and desperados abi
make una de console ya them selves

How e take consain you? Even if they married hundred times to hundred different men it is not your business. Mind your business and let them live their lives.

fellis:
This doesn't prove anything. Where in the Bible is it stated that a woman must bear her husband's last name? POINT OUT THE PART OF THE BIBLE THAT SAYS WOMEN MUST BEAR THEIR HUSBANDS' NAMES. POINT IT OUT! And stop posting irrelevant bible verses. Marriage does not mean that a woman should no longer a part of her father's family, she is still her father's daughter and she is still a sister to her siblings so throwing her family name away is quite idiotic.
Secondly, you mentioned that it is done so that all the members of the nuclear family can have the same last name. If that is the case then why can't men change their own last names to their wives' last name? Why are women the ones that should change their last names? Afterall the bible says a man will leave his father and mother. Man, and not woman, so if anything the man is the one that should be discarding his last name since he is the one that was commanded in the Bible to leave his family.
Mschew.
You'd better not come back here to challenge me unless you have a sensible argument.

Ok I pray you marry a mumuish man that will change his last name to yours!! This is the dumbest thing I've heard in ages for real.

Morayo747: Ok I pray you marry a mumuish man that will change his last name to yours!! This is the dumbest thing I've heard in ages for real.

Why is it the dumbest thing you have heard? Your own is just to declare that it is the dumbest thing you have heard. You cannot even defend your opinion.

I love the way fellis is handling this argument..making clear points,no sentiment..I might not agree with your point of view but I won't argue cos I don't have anything to use as a fact..not one person has been able to come up with one argument to prove her(that's if you r a girl) wrong

fellis:
Why is it the dumbest thing you have heard? Your own is just to declare that it is the dumbest thing you have heard. You cannot even defend your opinion.

There are some things in life that can't be questioned ok?? If you want to be the odd one and have your husband change his name to yours then so be it. I quoted the bible to you He said 2 shall become one. What does that mean? They shall become the same. The sam!!e.g have the same name. In the same bible somewhere it is written clearly that the man is the head of the home so please stop letting your feminist ideology cloud your sense of reasoning. It is not done anywhere..worst case scenario is the woman refuses to change her name period not a man changing his name to his wife's.

Morayo747:
There are some things in life that can't be questioned ok?? If you want to be the odd one and have your husband change his name to yours then so be it.

I am not looking to be the odd one. I am looking to be the sensible one. I like to think and make sure that whatever decision I take is a rational one that makes sense, unlike you that just follows 'things in life that can't be questioned'.

I quoted the bible to you He said 2 shall become one. What does that mean? They shall become the same. The sam!!e.g have the same name.

I have asked you to quote the part of the Bible that SPECIFICALLY says a woman should bear her husband's name. 'Two become one' can mean anything, it can mean that the man and woman should copulate and have sexxual relations, it can mean that the man and woman should build their life together and become companions, it can mean anything at all, the verse is rather ambiguous. Unless you can produce conclusive evidence that it definitely means the woman should bear the man's name then stop claiming that that is the meaning.

In the same bible somewhere it is written clearly that the man is the head of the home so please stop letting your feminist ideology cloud your sense of reasoning.

You should stop letting your sexist ideologies cloud your reasoning.
Your Bible says a lot of things. It says that women should not speak in churches doesn't it?1 Corinthians 14:34:
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

It says that women should not open their hair otherwise their hair should be cut off.
1 Corinthians 11:6: If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head.
The Bible also says women should not wear gold and pearls or braid their hair
1 Timothy 2:9: In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamedfacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls , or costly array
Why are people still clinging to this 'head of house' thing when you no longer follow the other rules I stated above?
Besides, a man being the head of the house does not mean that the woman MUST bear his name. A man can be the head of the house while his wife still bears her father's name. You should be able to give me a sensible reason why the man being head of the house translates to the woman bearing his name before you make that claim.

It is not done anywhere..worst case scenario is the woman refuses to change her name period not a man changing his name to his wife's.

And why can the man not change his name to his wife's name? Why? Do you believe that women are inferior to men or something?
You should try to reason and analyze the ways of life around you to know if they make sense and if you should follow them. You cannot decide that something is correct simply because you see other people doing it. Your brain is not sitting in your head for decoration.

I also like d style of argument by fellis. @ d topic, i believe it is a matter of choice & agreement btw d couple. Cos it's like d 2 prominent religions are silent about it, so it is neither prohibited nor made obligatory. Some of my sisters changed their last name while some did not.

@fellis...i just have one or two questions for you...
1.Who was created first on earth Is it a woman or a man ?
2.Check your Bible was a man created from a woman or a woman created from a man.
3.Is your mother using your fathers name...or your father using your mothers name.....PLS ANSWER ME OOH IM WAITING FOR YOU REPLY.

DC-ONE:
@fellis...i just have one or two questions for you...
1.Who was created first on earth Is it a woman or a man ?

According to the Bible, man was created first. Then animals were created. Then woman was created.
If you are trying to say that men are superior to women because they were created before women then you would also be implying that animals are superior to women because they were created before women. Do you believe that animals are superior to women? Is a rat superior to your mother?

2.Check your Bible was a man created from a woman or a woman created from a man

Explain how woman being created from man means that men are superior to women. Men were created from dust according to the Bible. Does that mean that dust is superior to men?

3.Is your mother using your fathers name...or your father using your mothers name.....

The argument is about whether women are supposed to bear their husbands' name, not about my personal life. I won't answer this question

PLS ANSWER ME OOH IM WAITING FOR YOU REPLY.

I HAVE ANSWERED YOU O! HOPE EVERYTHING WAS CLEAR?

Moderator, this thread is hot o! Pls put it on front page.

fellis:
Hahaha
E dey pain you?
Is it paining you that I said women are not supposed to bear their husbands' names?
Make e pain you well well you hear? Truth will always remain the truth. It is not a command by God for women to bear husbands name. It is not in your Bible yet you men want the tradition to remain because you want to lie to yourselves that you are superior to women and they are your property. Fools.

go sidon one syd Jo

Lepatohset:

go sidon one syd Jo

Commot that woman picture wey dey your profile. It is wrong to deceive people that you are a woman when you are actually a man.

@fellis now i see the level of your I.Q...lol....damn you are soo retarded...lwkmd....you need to have you cranium checked...arguing with you is just a waste of time...i dont know what men have done to you in you life maybe your boyfriend or your husband..(dats if you have one)....if i were you i would let it go and get the load out of my chest...lol...by the way if you dont know,man was created from dust and a woman was created from the rib of a man (Adam) in the Garden of Eden while he was sleeping...im not saying that women are not very important but the natural law is that the male folks would always be the head..there is nothing you can do about it...either you take it or not...you cant change it....lol........YOU HAVE NOT STILL ANSWER MY 3rd QUESTION,IF YOU DONT I WONT REPLY ANY OF YOUR COMMENT....angry feminist...lol...go change yourself.....i laugh outt...peace out loser....Lol

[/color][color=#990000]This thread's too hot for me ooo*picks race*

DC-ONE:
@fellis now i see the level of your I.Q...lol....damn you are soo retarded...
i dont know what men have done to you in you life maybe your boyfriend or your husband..(dats if you have one)....if i were you i would let it go and get the load out of my chest...lol...

What is it with men like you and your constantly assuming that women who don't agree that men are superior to them have been hurt or heartbroken before?

by the way if you dont know,man was created from dust and a woman was created from the rib of a man (Adam) in the Garden of Eden while he was sleeping...im not saying that women are not very important but the natural law is that the male folks would always be the head.

What natural law are you talking about? In what ways are men naturally superior to women?

there is nothing you can do about it...either you take it or not...you cant change it....lol.......

What are you always 'loling' at? You should ask yourself what actually makes men superior to women. What characteristics do men have that makes them superior to women? Think on it.

YOU HAVE NOT STILL ANSWER MY 3rd QUESTION,IF YOU DONT I WONT REPLY ANY OF YOUR COMMENT

I understand. You cannot show that anything I wrote is wrong so you run away after lying that you did so because I didn't answer your question about my private life

.....angry feminist...lol...go change yourself.....i laugh outt...peace out loser....Lol

Yeah, keep running. You are allowed to save face by running away.

fellis:
This doesn't prove anything. Where in the Bible is it stated that a woman must bear her husband's last name? POINT OUT THE PART OF THE BIBLE THAT SAYS WOMEN MUST BEAR THEIR HUSBANDS' NAMES. POINT IT OUT! And stop posting irrelevant bible verses. Marriage does not mean that a woman should no longer a part of her father's family, she is still her father's daughter and she is still a sister to her siblings so throwing her family name away is quite idiotic.
Secondly, you mentioned that it is done so that all the members of the nuclear family can have the same last name. If that is the case then why can't men change their own last names to their wives' last name? Why are women the ones that should change their last names? Afterall the bible says a man will leave his father and mother. Man, and not woman, so if anything the man is the one that should be discarding his last name since he is the one that was commanded in the Bible to leave his family.
Mschew.
You'd better not come back here to challenge me unless you have a sensible argument.

Before any further arguement,what name is your mumcie using?

Midastorch:
Before any further arguement,what name is your mumcie using?

What do you mean by 'before any further argument?'
You have no argument.
You have no point to prove that women are supposed to bear their husbands' names so you bring up the irrelevant question of what name my mother is using.
If you have anything to write to disprove all I have said then write it.
Stop asking for private information from my life first.
Let us make two assumptions as the answer to your question:
First assumption: my mother is bearing my father's name.
What would it prove if this was the case? Does my mother bearing my father's name mean that all women should bear their husbands' names? How is my mother's action a determinant for what all women are supposed to do? My mother got married to my father in Nigeria. Does that mean that every single woman on earth should get married in Nigeria?

Second assumption: she does not bear my father's name. This could be because she and my father came to an agreement that that is the way the marriage should be. It could be because they are divorced. It could be for any reason not necessarily because it is better for women to keep their fathers' names.
In both assumptions, there is nothing to show that the name my mother bears is relevant to this argument. You should mention reasons why something is right or wrong. Don't assume that a way of life is correct or proper simply because you see other people following that way of life.
I hope the point I just made is not too logical for you to understand?

fellis:
What do you mean by 'before any further argument?'
You have no argument.
You have no point to prove that women are supposed to bear their husbands' names so you bring up the irrelevant question of what name my mother is using.
If you have anything to write to disprove all I have said then write it.
Stop asking for private information from my life first.
Let us make two assumptions as the answer to your question:
First assumption: my mother is bearing my father's name.
What would it prove if this was the case? Does my mother bearing my father's name mean that all women should bear their husbands' names? How is my mother's action a determinant for what all women are supposed to do? My mother got married to my father in Nigeria. Does that mean that every single woman on earth should get married in Nigeria?

Second assumption: she does not bear my father's name. This could be because she and my father came to an agreement that that is the way the marriage should be. It could be because they are divorced. It could be for any reason not necessarily because it is better for women to keep their fathers' names.
In both assumptions, there is nothing to show that the name my mother bears is relevant to this argument. You should mention reasons why something is right or wrong. Don't assume that a way of life is correct or proper simply because you see other people following that way of life.
I hope the point I just made is not too logical for you to understand?

Classic case of arguing for arguments sake. Are you some rookie lawyer trying to horn her skills here? We all know lawyers argue even when they know they are wrong.