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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:02am On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:

Aradu Otomat anti-ship missile range 80km without datalink, and 180 km with datalink. Valour frigate Exocet range 70km maximum.

Aradu Aspide anti-aircraft missile range 75 km, Valour frigate Umkhonto range 15 km.

Aradu gun 127mm shells, Valour guns 76mm shells.

Aradu gun effective range 15 km, Valour gun effective range 8km.

The fear of NNS Aradu has Retaarded your b.rain grin grin

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Arandu remains afloat but inoperable. It was armed with Otomat MK1 (60 KM), ie, when it was still operational.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:13am On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:

Go ask the thousands of d.ead Boko Haram fighters and their leader Shekau when Nigerian commandoes entered inside his forest camp and sent him on a journey to the land of no return.

Nigerian army has both physical and equipment firepower, we have both !

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I'll go and ask thousands of dead Nigerian soldiers.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:32am On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:
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Nigerian infantry has as many machine guns as AK-47. We produce locally, we carry more than 150 bullets...

Count those chain belt bullets if you can....


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It is only hunger and poverty that I can see in the faces of those soldiers.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:58am On Jul 07, 2014
NaijaPikinGidi: So far, the Government and people of Nigeria and the gallant NA have stood firm in the onslaught against the BH insurgents, yet on the flipside it is funny to see how our faint Hearted South Africans are panicking and getting desperately paranoid everyday over Boko Haram's imagined presence in South Africa. It makes me wonder what manner of wimps you have for leaders and military men! Funny how you now agree with the NA ... that BH are faceless and not easy to identify becauuse they live amongst normal citizens!

Good to know that the SA government and their weak SANDF are learning a lot from the priceless experience/expertise of our intelligence/security/military formations.

If your SANDF are up to scratch, I see no reason why you South Africans should panic over something the NA is creditably dealing with.

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South Africans should not be surprised if Boko Haram splinter groups are operating in the country, Deputy International Relations Minister Luwellyn Landers said on Wednesday.

While there was no proof the militant group was operational in South Africa, he was concerned and said, "That has to be a concern for anybody and we shouldn't be surprised if they are here."

"Someone who does a lot of work in Africa said to me it's very difficult to pinpoint just who belongs to Boko Haram because they have succeeded in integrating in every community they seek to be part of."

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"They don't go around wearing specific colours or overalls or logos, so you'll never know that the person sitting next to you is a member of Boko Haram. That's how effective they've become," Landers said.


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http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/c4cdfa0044953b338449b769be1f1b5a/Boko-Haram-might-be-operating-in-the-country-says-Luwellyn-Landers-20140207

Stupi.d that cannot understand what was the minister refering to. The minister was merely seeking SA attention on the issue of Boko Haram that it affect us all. The minister sought SA involvement in helping Nigeria, that's all.

Meanwhile, SA churches have been praying for the people of Northeast Nigeria whose military has been critisized by the world to be weak and coward.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:06am On Jul 07, 2014
My brother if you don't understand south African way of communicating please stop your insults,since you are clueless on what the minister is saying,let me help you

in simpler terms the minister is saying that it is high time now to scrutinize every person coming to SA especially Nigerians

boko haram will never be SA problem,the only concern is we don't want to harbor criminals here therefore the government of Nigeria should bare with SA when strict rules are applied on Nigerians...

NaijaPikinGidi: So far, the Government and people of Nigeria and the gallant NA have stood firm in the onslaught against the BH insurgents, yet on the flipside it is funny to see how our faint Hearted South Africans are panicking and getting desperately paranoid everyday over Boko Haram's imagined presence in South Africa. It makes me wonder what manner of wimps you have for leaders and milita


ry men!
Funny how you now agree with the NA ... that BH are faceless and not easy to identify becauuse they live amongst normal citizens!

Good to know that the SA government and their weak SANDF are learning a lot from the priceless experience/expertise of our intelligence/security/military formations.

If your SANDF are up to scratch, I see no reason why you South Africans should panic over something the NA is creditably dealing with.

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South Africans should not be surprised if Boko Haram splinter groups are operating in the country, Deputy International Relations Minister Luwellyn Landers said on Wednesday.

While there was no proof the militant group was operational in South Africa, he was concerned and said, "That has to be a concern for anybody and we shouldn't be surprised if they are here."

"Someone who does a lot of work in Africa said to me it's very difficult to pinpoint just who belongs to Boko Haram because they have succeeded in integrating in every community they seek to be part of."

[...]

"They don't go around wearing specific colours or overalls or logos, so you'll never know that the person sitting next to you is a member of Boko Haram. That's how effective they've become," Landers said.


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http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/c4cdfa0044953b338449b769be1f1b5a/Boko-Haram-might-be-operating-in-the-country-says-Luwellyn-Landers-20140207
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:33am On Jul 07, 2014
THE BEST OF THE BEST SANDF

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:34am On Jul 07, 2014
SANDF

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 9:38am On Jul 07, 2014
FighterPilot:

Arandu remains afloat but inoperable. It was armed with Otomat MK1 (60 KM), ie, when it was still operational.

You South African's favourite source for Otomat Mk 1 say Aradu is in service below in the photo web page screenshot.

Show us a source that says Aradu is in-operable...We am waiting.....

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 9:39am On Jul 07, 2014
FighterPilot:

I'll go and ask thousands of dead Nigerian soldiers.

Show us source that thousands of Nigerian soldiers have died in Boko War...figures please.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 9:41am On Jul 07, 2014
FighterPilot:

It is only hunger and poverty that I can see in the faces of those soldiers.

Battle hardened soldiers do not look like Hollywood models you have in SANDF who sleep at home 365 days every year....Zero war time.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 9:49am On Jul 07, 2014
FighterPilot:

It is only hunger and poverty that I can see in the faces of those soldiers.

Faces of your own very few soldiers that ever see any small field action in their lives, look even worse...

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 9:53am On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:

Battle hardened soldiers do not look like Hollywood models you have in SANDF who sleep at home 365 days every year....Zero war time.

It doesn't change the fact that they look poor and hungry with old weapons that look like those of rebels.

In my eyes, I see rebels in them.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 9:57am On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:

Faces of your own very few soldiers that ever see any small field action in their lives, look even worse...

Those ones are the highest paid military in Africa. Fact!!! That's why they are motivated every step of the way, knowing well that the government has placed a hefty price tag on every lives lost. Their families won't have to struggle once they are gone.

With regard to the field, SA is the only country in Africa that has a battle school where they simulate war tactics with real weapons.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 10:07am On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:

Show us source that thousands of Nigerian soldiers have died in Boko War...figures please.

You know well that your military which has the rights to report about casualties always downplay their own.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 10:17am On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:

You South African's favourite source for Otomat Mk 1 say Aradu is in service below in the photo web page screenshot.

Show us a source that says Aradu is in-operable...We am waiting.....

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http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/

Click on "other African countries" because Nigeria has no war ships but small to medium boats. Tell me what do you see under Nigeria?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 10:49am On Jul 07, 2014
FighterPilot:

http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/

Click on "other African countries" because Nigeria has no war ships but small to medium boats. Tell me what do you see under Nigeria?

What I see on top headlines of your source is :

Welcome to World Navies Today. This site last updated 10 March 2003.

See how much an out-dated and obsolete fo.ol y.ou are in this year 2014, usual dull South African brain grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 10:52am On Jul 07, 2014
FighterPilot:

You know well that your military which has the rights to report about casualties always downplay their own.

Show us proof of your above claim, we don't need you private opinion from Soweto.

The dead bodies in your photo are all Boko Haram fighters, thank you for proving me right grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:10am On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:

Show us proof of your above claim, we don't need you private opinion from Soweto.

The dead bodies in your photo are all Boko Haram fighters, thank you for proving me right grin grin

The dead bodies are that of your military men stupi.d. The source of that image from Nigeria has since been removed from the net. Believe it or not. BH does not have a complete gear on their fatique. Some of them do not even put on boots, water bottle, battle jacket, chest web, etc. They generally do not look as standard, professional and uniform as those soldiers lying there. Take a closer look.

The world know well, Siberia to Japan, the US and Cape to Cairo how your Army likes to twists facts around. The masters of propaganda.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:12am On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:

What I see on top headlines of your source is :

Welcome to World Navies Today. This site last updated 10 March 2003.

See how much an out-dated and obsolete fo.ol y.ou are in this year 2014, usual dull South African brain grin grin

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It doesn't matter, facts shall always remain even when revised. Arandu remains afloat but is inoperable. It cannot fire missiles.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:30am On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:

NNS Aradu is still in service according one of the sources posted many times here by you South Africans....

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In service =/= operational

Nigeria has no operational sea-worthy missile armed warship

btw, I am not even going to bother laughing at your ludicrous FH-77B argument (you have changed your story again, now you admit Nigeria does not have the FH-77 B05 L52)

Still waiting for you to show us weblinks that say aradu has data-link

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:32am On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:

You South African's favourite source for Otomat Mk 1 say Aradu is in service below in the photo web page screenshot.

Show us a source that says Aradu is in-operable...We am waiting.....

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As of 2012 Aradu is not operational

Confirmed by beegeage

http://beegeagle./2012/11/19/navy-to-reinvigorate-nns-aradu/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:36am On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:


M5 120mm mortar range is NOT 10km, it is 9km.

Nigerian infantry too has 9km range 120mm Brandt mortar.

Nigeria army infantry has...

4km range swingfire anti-tank missile

5km range SA-7 hand held anti-aircraft missile

7km range Recoiless anti-tank rifles

1km range Gustav anti-armour rifles

3km range Dshk heavy calibre machine guns that pierce armoured vehicles

9km range 120mm mortar

5km range 81mm mortar

2km range machine guns mixed with AK-47 rifles for almost every four soldiers, we don't depend on AK-47 alone.

1km range Knee mortar/grenade launcher made in Nigeria.

Nigerian army 130,000 men Vs South African army 50,000 men.

Nigerian soldiers will surround South Africa's entire army on the battlefield and choke them up in the middle.

There is NOTHING in South African infantry arsenal that Nigeria does not have an equal answer.

Dude, let this be the last time we repeat this old story. This forum should find other topics to discuss.


You have no knee morars in common service

Do you want to compare weapons? Ours are superior.

Swingfire v Milan AD
SA-7 v Starstreak

ect etc etc everything

a.k.a Old v New

You also confirm that you have limited section and platoon weapons (no 60mm mortars, no marksmen rifles etc etc).

You also confirm that you have no AGLs or MGL's

3rd world army v 1st world army

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:39am On Jul 07, 2014
patches689:

As of 2012 Aradu is not operational

Confirmed by beegeage

http://beegeagle./2012/11/19/navy-to-reinvigorate-nns-aradu/

It had never been. It can only swim but can't fight.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 1:17pm On Jul 07, 2014
Proudly South African

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 1:18pm On Jul 07, 2014
SANDF

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 2:24pm On Jul 07, 2014
Thiza: SANDF
The man on the first pic there was the OC in CAR. The picture is from video when they were preparing 5 SAI for deployment in the DRC.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 2:34pm On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:


M5 120mm mortar range is NOT 10km, it is 9km.

Nigerian infantry too has 9km range 120mm Brandt mortar.

Nigeria army infantry has...

4km range swingfire anti-tank missile

5km range SA-7 hand held anti-aircraft missile

7km range Recoiless anti-tank rifles

1km range Gustav anti-armour rifles

3km range Dshk heavy calibre machine guns that pierce armoured vehicles

9km range 120mm mortar

5km range 81mm mortar

2km range machine guns mixed with AK-47 rifles for almost every four soldiers, we don't depend on AK-47 alone.

1km range Knee mortar/grenade launcher made in Nigeria.

Nigerian army 130,000 men Vs South African army 50,000 men.

Nigerian soldiers will surround South Africa's entire army on the battlefield and choke them up in the middle.

There is NOTHING in South African infantry arsenal that Nigeria does not have an equal answer.

Dude, let this be the last time we repeat this old story. This forum should find other topics to discuss.

You wanna compare? Are gonna also say the M6 60mm mortar doesn't have a range of 6km? SA infantry has superior weapons.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 2:38pm On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:

Faces of your own very few soldiers that ever see any small field action in their lives, look even worse...
well trained. "We train as we fight". "We fight as we train". Your army isn't that experienced.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 2:45pm On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:
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Nigerian infantry has as many machine guns as AK-47. We produce locally, we carry more than 150 bullets...

Count those chain belt bullets if you can....


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what's that machine gun when I can shot back with 40X53 Y3 automatic grenade launcher. Nigerian military command can break easily by lack of radios,in brigade size battles.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 4:11pm On Jul 07, 2014
FighterPilot:

The dead bodies are that of your military men stupi.d. The source of that image from Nigeria has since been removed from the net. Believe it or not. BH does not have a complete gear on their fatique. Some of them do not even put on boots, water bottle, battle jacket, chest web, etc. They generally do not look as standard, professional and uniform as those soldiers lying there. Take a closer look.

The world know well, Siberia to Japan, the US and Cape to Cairo how your Army likes to twists facts around. The masters of propaganda.

Your lies look too cheap, can't you do better than this? LOL.

99% of Nigerian army in Boko war wear north desert camp uniforms, those ones in your photo are dead Bokos with south jungle camp uniforms. Also all Nigerian soldiers go into battle with helmets, those bodies have none. All Nigerian soldiers have name tags on chest and Nigerian flag ss logo on uniform, those dead bodies have none. Mister man don't let your commandant in South Africa see your thinking level here, you will be demoted to next lower rank.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:34pm On Jul 07, 2014
AugustineAgain:

Bring your Valour frigates to make noise in Nigerian EEZ and see if Aradu will not sink them.

Bofors artillery, I still stand by the 3 sources, Nigeria has all the 3 versions ....FH-77A, FH-77B, FH-77 B0 L52.

I just noticed that most sources from India and SIPRI of Sweden mostly mention FH-77B in service.

Then I proved to you that even the older B version was firing to range over 35 km in 1999 Kargil war before B0 L52 upgrade was done some years later.

I also proved that India says FH-77B can fire up to range 43 km, so if you have problem with that, go punch the Indian army officer in the nose because you are butt-hurt.

What you fail to realise is that no one beleives your argument.

Respectable sources (ie: SIPRI) all list nigerian arty as FH-77B

All respectable sources list range of FH-77B as being around 30km

Ammunition in the Swedish Army order included the locally developed HEER projectile, developed to meet the requirements of the Indian Army which, when used with charge 9, has a range of 30,000 m. HEER-BB (High Explosive Extended-Range - Base Bleed) was included in the order and the FH-77B could also use ammunition already stockpiled by the Swedish Army.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4673.html

The gun has a range of 30 km, it can fire 3 rounds within 13 s and a has sustained rate of fire of 8 rounds/minute.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/fh-77.htm

Only the FH77 B05 L52 has a range of over 40km with standard BB ammunition

The FH-77 B05 L52 enables a range of 40 plus km to be achieved with standard base bleed projectiles. It is fitted with an integrated navigation, positioning and aligning system and onboard ballistic computation.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4673.html

Nigeria does not have the FH-77 B05 L52, it never has and never will.

Why is this so? Why will nigeria never ever have the FH-77 B05 L52?

[size=15pt]BECAUSE ONLY TWO FH-77 B05 L52 WERE EVER BUILT[/size]

The now BAE Systems Bofors has upgraded two examples of the FH-77B 39 calibre with a 155 mm/52 calibre ordnance and this is designated the FH-77 B05 L52. They were successfully demonstrated in India in 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2006. As of early 2008 no production contracts had been awarded by India for any 155 mm artillery systems.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4673.html

India chose the DRDO instead of the FH-77 B05 L52
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRDO_155_mm_artillery_gun

There was no upgrade you silly Arrow

Nigerian FH77 (regardless of class) only have a 30km range if they some-how got their hands on advanced swedish HEER ammunition. In [size=15pt]reality[/size] the Nigerian FH77B only has a range of around 20km

HE M107, the standard NATO 155 mm howitzer projectile weighing 42.91 kg. It can be fired to a range of approximately 19,000 m.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4673.html

This makes sense as all Nigerian artillery only has a range of 20-25km.

You are just making a fool of yourself at this point.

Bring your Valour frigates to make noise in Nigerian EEZ and see if Aradu will not sink them.

Its not operational, so it couldent sink a rubber duck.

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