AugustineAgain:

Navy 500km coastal radars or TV cameras 50km range or ATR-42 radar 300km range, will track your ships and radio the exact coordinates of your ships exact position to Army artillery command and control. Same way it's been done all over the world for decades, simple as ABC.

Go ask how Nigerian army army artillery dropped shells inside the room where RUF rebel commanders were holding meeting in Sierra Leone, South African Colonel Eben was praising us on that achievement last time I chatted with him on Beegeagle.

If you don't know how artillery communicates with air or land command and control, please go join a Police forum/thread.

Pirates use many different types of vessels for different types of criminal operations, some use high speed boats with double engines, and at 32 knots, they will dribble the whole South African navy 16 knots Frigates, your navy that has ZERO sea interceptors like our Shaldags, your submarine speed is even worse, those ones are bicycle speed, pirates will turn your navy into school children on a play ground


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Navy 500km coastal radars or TV cameras 50km range or ATR-42 radar 300km range, will track your ships and radio the exact coordinates of your ships exact position to Army artillery command and control. Same way it's been done all over the world for decades, simple as ABC.

You dont know how a military works - there are multiple links in the chain that the info needs to be relayed through, it will take minuts for shot correction.

Artillery without a data-link cannot hit a moving targets

Go ask how Nigerian army army artillery dropped shells inside the room where RUF rebel commanders were holding meeting in Sierra Leone, South African Colonel Eben was praising us on that achievement last time I chatted with him on Beegeagle.

Towns dont move

That didnt happen

And you never spoke to Colonel Eben

If you don't know how artillery communicates with air or land command and control, please go join a Police forum/thread.

Says the guy who doesnt understand a comms-net

Seriously brah, seriously.

Pirates use many different types of vessels for different types of criminal operations, some use high speed boats with double engines, and at 32 knots, they will dribble the whole South African navy 16 knots Frigates, your navy that has ZERO sea interceptors like our Shaldags, your submarine speed is even worse, those ones are bicycle speed, pirates will turn your navy into school children on a play ground

Super Lynx moves at more than 32knots

Speed is irrelevant, its about interdiction and re-capturing stolen ships and rescuing crews.

Show me the interceptors deployed by NATO off Somalia

AugustineAgain:

When your inexperienced navy sails in real long range patrol mode up to Gabon, come back and post it here

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Our "inexperienced" navy gets 8000 sea hours per year

How many does yours get?

Yeah, i thought so.

AugustineAgain:

NAF Mi-171 Terminator obsolete ? You must still be suffering from your Mokopa accident !

NAF is buying this modern helicopter that entered the market in year 2002, more modern than your Gripen jet or ancient Oryx helicopter

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/mi-171sh-combat-transport-helicopter/

NAF already has 10 of them in service, usually deployed for NA in Sudan-Dafur etc, we are just buying more squadrons, Fool

Patches is a Mokopa crash victim, he cannot even use google again, b.rain mixed with custard

Nigerian combat helicopters will be almost 100 units when all orders arrive...

South Africa fvcks about with 10 undedicated Rooivalks


Note: The ‘No. delivered/produced’ and the ‘Year(s) of deliveries’ columns refer to all deliveries since the beginning of the contract. Deals in which the recipient was involved in the production of the weapon system are listed separately. The ‘Comments’ column includes publicly reported information on the value of the deal. Information on the sources and methods used in the collection of the data, and explanations of the conventions, abbreviations and acronyms, can be found at URL <http://www.sipri.org/contents/armstrad/at_data.html>. The SIPRI Arms Transfers Database is continuously updated as new information becomes available.

Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database
Information generated: 03 October 2014


Russia
R: Nigeria

4 Mi-8MT/Mi-17/Hip-H Helicopter (2002) 2003 4 Mi-171Sh armed version
3 Mi-24P/Hind-F Combat helicopter (2012)
6 Mi-8MT/Mi-17/Hip-H Helicopter (2012) Mi-171Sh armed version


http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php

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According to SIPRI you have 13 Active

Add 40 to 13

Thats 53

Not 100

And the Mi Mil-17 is from 1970's

And according to your man beegeal himself - it is a transport

Nowadays Mi-171AMTSh (Mi-171Sh) helicopter appears to be one of the most popular medium military transport helicopters all over the world, on account of their versatility of the helicopter and its high performance.
http://beegeagle./2011/09/03/spotlight-terminator-mi-8amtshexport-model-mi-171sh-assaulttransport-helicopter-of-the-nigerian-air-force/

Henry120:

The identity of the dead terrorist isn't in question.

Dude,why call a dead body a terrorist?

That can be anybody,you must prove his identity beyond reasonable doubt with DNA tests and stuff.

It seems one knows exactly who's "Shekau". They don't lookalike if you ask me.

Patchesagain:

Sorry, its 12 or so

Ansaru
Arewa People's Congress
Bakassi Boys
Bakassi Movement for Self-Determination
Boko Haram
Egbesu
Ijw Youth Council
Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta
Niger Delta Liberation Front
Niger Delta People's Volunteer Force
Niger Delta Vigilante
Oodu Peoples Congress
Yan Tatsine

lolzzzzz...I swear this guy is a clown... Hahahahaha....

agaugust:

[size=16pt]Rooivalk is an dedicated undedicated attack helicopter of ancient armaments

1. ONLY one gun
2. Some dumb old school rocket pods with zero guidance


.[/size]

The first dedicated attack helicopter didn't carry missiles,so if we are gonna describe what's a "dedicated AT helo" will look from it.

Rooivalk can carry missiles,so your point is irrelevant.

I can see you're running from the other facts I put to you.

You know what awaits you,if you're gonna invite the "ZAR" to the dance
floor.

Henry120:

The evidence is clear. The Nigerian Army cannot be accused of insincerity.

The Nigeria army is pulled by the nose.

Henry120:

Why don't you add, the PDP, APC , Labour party, Brigade boys and girls guild to your imaginary list.


Anyway, the ANC, Mandela, O.R thambo, Thabo mbeki and the retarrd Zuma are all terrorist group and terrorists respectively.

Good, that means BH is destined to run your country and Shekau is your next president.. prepare to be ruled by an extremist.

agaugust:

We don't have 18 rebel groups.

Where will you land? Niger Delta? MEND fighters are anxiously waiting to k.ill South Africans in revenge for Henry Okah !

Welcome into the mangrove swamps, that is where MEND militants will bury y.ou
.

Now you remember we put to jail your rebels? When you failed to do so.


1. You again,reveal that there's an active armed rebel operating inside your land.

2. You again,reveal your military is so weak that it would depend on rebels to protect Nigeria if she was attacked.

3. You again,reveal your military has been failing to WIN battles at home with rebels. Meaning the fight against BH is totally futile,as you'll go to bed with them?

4. You again,reveal there's a movement which can be exploited by some nations to cause problems for your FG?

5. Henry Okah=@Henry120? Lol

AugustineAgain:

How many ships will share the 5,500 tonnes extra fuel? How many tonnes refuels one frigate?

I said some frigates need 4,000 tonnes to fill tank, so how many days will ALL your ships stay at sea in Gulf Of Guinea?

Or you return home as soon as you arrive? How do you patrol around in circles from Angola to Ghana, or are you just coming to mark register that you came and left immediately ?

South Africa has ZERO experience of piracy war at sea

See all the logistics and fuel problems Nigerians are showing you now? You never though about the distance and ship max range

You want to be tall, but your two legs are too short

SAN = Sea Dwarf
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You said frigates need 4000 tons of fuel.

Remember that's your opinion not a fact.

AugustineAgain:



Nigeria uses high speed interceptor Shaldags with radar and FLIR to speed chase/catch pirates.

South African navy has NO sea interceptors



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You think we're out to play a mouse and cat game with the pirates? Your interceptors are for oil thieves in the Delta.

Interception is done by air, it gives you unparalleled tactical advantages over the pirates - you troll.

MikeZA: Dude,why call a dead body a terrorist?

That can be anybody,you must prove his identity beyond reasonable doubt with DNA tests and stuff.

It seems one knows exactly who's "Shekau". They don't lookalike if you ask me.

What sort of question is this? What do I now call a terrorist?........ MikeZA.

DNA, Teeth and all other relevant verification tests were done on the filthy terrorist. That was why the Army did not make any comment more than 8 days after.

By mere looking at those bodies, it is very clear, it is the shekau impostor we've seen in some videos.

GreenandGold:

Good, that means BH is destined to run your country and Shekau is your next president.. prepare to be ruled by an extremist.

Thank you for acknowledging the ANC are a terrorist group.

1 sincere South-African.

MikeZA:

5. Henry Okah=@Henry120? Lol

Congratulations, you have now been noticed.

Henry120:

Thank you for acknowledging the ANC are a terrorist group.

1 sincere South-African.

In your diesel smoke filled brain they're.

Henry120:

Congratulations, you have now been noticed.

Oh cry baby.

Patchesagain post=/post/26821373:


Hahahahahahahaha


You think wikipedia is a viable source? How do we know you didnt edit it?

Nope, Hamilton Class uses the AN/SPS-55 short-range radar

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/whec-378-specs.htm


It has a range of around 92km
http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/weaps/an-sps-55.htm


AN/SPS-55 from the 1960's was replaced during the upgrade

GAME. OVER

Enjoy your short range radar

No, it's game over for you because you quoted a radar different from your own very source, you are the one doing editing now

Hamilton ship does NOT use the AN/SPS-55 short-range radar you quoted, you lose again, born loser

See your own source screen shot photo below, where is the AN/SPS-55 short-range radar there ? Fraudster

Your own very source says it uses the AN/SPS-40 radar and agrees with my Wikipedia source !

Death by own argument, death by own source

End Of The Road For Patches

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MikeZA post=/post/26829986:
Oh cry baby.

You didn't respond to the post, you were supposed to respond to.

Dummy.

AugustineAgain post=/post/26831203:


No, it's game over for you because you quoted a radar different from your own very source, you are the one doing editing now

Hamilton ship does NOT use the AN/SPS-55 short-range radar you quoted, you lose again, born loser

See your own source sreen shot photo below, where is the AN/SPS-55 short-range radar there ? Fraudster

End Of The Road For Patches

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I confused the designations...

but lest look at the AN/SPS-73 shall we?

The Radar Set AN/SPS-73(V)12 is a short-range, two-dimensional, surface search/navigation radar system that provides contact range and bearing information. The AN/SPS-73(V)12 provides for signal processing and automatic target detection capability. The AN/SPS-73(V)12 surface search function provides short-range detection and surveillance of surface units and low-flying air units,
http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=2100&tid=1287&ct=2

Max effective range: 63 miles
http://www.studyblue.com/notes/note/n/radar/deck/4112305

Still no where near 500km

[size=15pt]You got clean busted buddy - Hamilton has no 500km radar!! You lied and were exposed with minimal effort!![/size]

You have never been on the road... your journey ended before it even started.

#ShowUsHamiltonClass500kmRadar

Patchesagain post=/post/26821384:


Yes

You said

Show us how much fuel a valour class needs.

Valour frigate is your ship, so you show us how much tonnes of fuel fills one tank, or am I a South African?

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AugustineAgain post=/post/26831397:


Valour frigate is your ship, so you show us how much tonnes of fuel fills one tank, or am I a South African?

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I dont have to show you anything

I have shown you it has all the range it needs

I have shown it can be refuelled to extend its range

Its up to you to debunk these points.

Patchesagain post=/post/26821415:


We can sail up and patrol 1000 miles.... thats 2,200km (the distanceis just short of the length of our coast).... and sail all the way back without re-fueling

And we can extend the range with re-supply.

You keep trying to make an argument.

But the numbers tell a different story

Also, what is to stop us setting a forward base in Angola so that we can also deploy our OPV's

Reality has dawned on you that South African navy has to BEG ON HER KNEES for diesel fuel in Gulf Of Guinea....shame !

Force projection by begging for help from 'weaker' countries = Failed force projection

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AugustineAgain post=/post/26831488:



Reality has dawned on you that South African navy has to BEG ON HER KNEES for diesel fuel in Gulf Of Guinea....shame !

Force projection by begging for help from 'weaker' countries = Failed force projection

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What are you talking about?

Show me why we would have to beg for deisel.

We can sail to lagos

and then patrol a distance that is just short of the length of the entire south african coast

and then sail back to cape town

without re-fueling

And we have the ability to re-fuel and re-supply while on station.

We actually have force projection, you have none.

AugustineAgain post=/post/26831488:


Force projection by begging for help from 'weaker' countries = Failed force projection

.

Nope

We will set up our on FOB to supply our smaller OPV's - and it will be an SANDF FOB

All 4 Frigates and all 3 subs and the Drakensberg can patrol your waters with ease.

Patchesagain post=/post/26821432:


Pirates hijack ships

Hijacked ships are oil tankers

They sail at less than 20knts

Not a problem

Pirates rob ships, not only oil tankers but general goods cargo ships, they rob people of valuables and dollars, then speed of in a 32 knot double engine speed boat, this proves you have ZERO knowledge of piracy operations in South Africa.

Your Lynx helicopter radius range is maximum 200 km, so if the pirate alert from Ghana tells you the pirate speed boat is 400km away from your Valour Frigate, what are you going to do at frigate fuel management speed limit 16 knots to catch pirate speed boat of 32 knots already 400km away from your ship and escaping?
[size=13pt]
You need satellite tracking, coastal radar tracking, and ATR-42 Surveyor air support tracking....South Africa will call Nigeria for help

.[/size]

AugustineAgain post=/post/26831697:



Pirates rob ships, not only oil tankers but general goods cargo ships, they rob people of valuables and dollars, then speed of in a 32 knot double engine speed boat, this proves you have ZERO knowledge of piracy operations in South Africa.

Your Lynx helicopter radius range is maximum 200 km, so if the pirate alert from Ghana tells you the pirate speed boat is 400km away from your Valour Frigate, what are you going to do at frigate fuel management speed limit 16 knots to catch pirate speed boat of 32 knots already 400km away from your ship and escaping?
[size=13pt]
You need satellite tracking, coastal radar tracking, and ATR-42 Surveyor air support tracking....South Africa will call Nigeria for help

.[/size]

This guy thinks we will be chasing Delta Pirates

Dude, we are after the people who steal ships

Not petty theives who operate in your mangrove swamps

And... how do you unload a container ship in the middle of the ocean? Magic? Witchcraft?

Again, you dont understand the difference between interdiction and law enforcement

And yes, it will be an extreamely difficult job for us... but we would not have to do it if you could secure your own region of africa

We are going to spend billions of rands to clean up your mess

Joker

AugustineAgain post=/post/26831697:



Pirates rob ships, not only oil tankers but general goods cargo ships, they rob people of valuables and dollars, then speed of in a 32 knot double engine speed boat, this proves you have ZERO knowledge of piracy operations in South Africa.

Your Lynx helicopter radius range is maximum 200 km, so if the pirate alert from Ghana tells you the pirate speed boat is 400km away from your Valour Frigate, what are you going to do at frigate fuel management speed limit 16 knots to catch pirate speed boat of 32 knots already 400km away from your ship and escaping?
[size=13pt]
You need satellite tracking, coastal radar tracking, and ATR-42 Surveyor air support tracking....South Africa will call Nigeria for help

.[/size]

This guy thinks we will be chasing Delta Pirates

Dude, we are after the people who steal ships

Not petty theives who operate in your mangrove swamps

And... how do you unload a container ship in the middle of the ocean? Magic? Witchcraft?

Again, you dont understand the difference between interdiction and law enforcement. We are not going there to chase petty criminals. We are there to protect major international trade.

And yes, it will be an extreamely difficult job for us... but we would not have to do it if you could secure your own region of africa

We are going to spend billions of rands to clean up your mess

Joker

Patchesagain post=/post/26821473:


Show me the interceptors deployed by NATO off Somalia

NATO has many countries naval fleets also in Somalia waters, they saturated the place with several aircraft carriers, loaded with jet fighters, helicopters, maritime patrol aircraft, carrier borne speed boats, frigates, corvettes, submarines, oil tankers, suppy ships, replenishment ships, everything a super power navy has was deployed by America, Europe, Saudi Arabia, India, China, etc.

South Africa has ZERO knowledge of piracy operations, that is why your dreams are so foolishly over-bloated

South Africa can NEVER match that, you have only four frigates, one in Mozambique, two frigates and one submarine at home on your massive 3,200km South African coastline you must not leave undefended, and best you can do is put one frigate and one submarine in gulf of guinea.

South Africa will be like a tiny navy lost massive oceans 10 million km sq wide, struggling to make it's presence felt, while pirates dribble you around

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Patchesagain post=/post/26831878:


This guy thinks we will be chasing Delta Pirates

Dude, we are after the people who steal ships

Not petty theives who operate in your mangrove swamps

And... how do you unload a container ship in the middle of the ocean? Magic? Witchcraft?

Again, you dont understand the difference between interdiction and law enforcement. We are not going there to chase petty criminals. We are there to protect major international trade.

And yes, it will be an extreamely difficult job for us... but we would not have to do it if you could secure your own region of africa

We are going to spend billions of rands to clean up your mess

Joker

Really? You have started eating your own words now when you saw proof that you will need help from Nigeria, so you will now be in Angola and Namibia alone, your blind eyes just opened to see reality of how West African ocean is BEYOND the reach of South African navy operations....truth hurts

Patchesagain post=/post/26811675:


It doesnt matter how much fuel a valour class takes, with a refuel of just half a tank it means it can get from cape town to lagos

Your entire argument is pointless and semnatic.

Fact is that we can patrol your waters with ease

No longer at ease. Things fall apart

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AugustineAgain post=/post/26832070:


NATO has many countries naval fleets also in Somalia waters, they saturated the place with several aircraft carriers, loaded with jet fighters, helicopters, maritime patrol aircraft, carrier borne speed boats, frigates, corvettes, submarines, oil tankers, suppy ships, replenishment ships, everything a super power navy has was deployed by America, Europe, Saudi Arabia, India, China, etc.

South Africa has ZERO knowledge of piracy operations, that is why your dreams are so foolishly over-bloated

South Africa can NEVER match that, you have only four frigates, one in Mozambique, two frigates and one submarine at home on your massive 3,200km South African coastline you must not leave undefended, and best you can do is put one frigate and one submarine in gulf of guinea.

South Africa will be like a tiny navy lost massive oceans 10 million km sq wide, struggling to make it's presence felt, while pirates dribble you around

.

ahahahah

That is no where near what NATO deployed

Dude, seriously.

your argument is beyond infantile at this point.

Did we say we would end priacy?

No!!

What we said is that we will be patrolling in your sphere of influence... and that is what is important

AugustineAgain post=/post/26832183:


Really? You have started eating your own words now when you saw proof that you will need help from Nigeria, so you will now be in Angola and Namibia alone, your blind eyes just opened to see reality of how West African ocean is BEYOND the reach of South African navy operations....truth hurts




No longer at ease. Things fall apart

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Truth is that we will be patrolling waters 2000 miles away from home.

Can you say the same?

AugustineAgain:
your blind eyes just opened to see reality of how West African ocean is BEYOND the reach of South African navy operations....truth hurts


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So lets get this straight

We have the range

we have the ability to re-fuel at sea

and yet we cannot reach it?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

At this point your argument is "Its true because I say so!!"

Pathetic sub-human