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Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by btoks: 5:05am On Oct 13, 2014 |
donkennedy005:Bro whether you like it or not your history is way off.so this antichrist church compiled the bible after Nicene but you believe in the bible?! |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by crackhouse(m): 6:20am On Oct 13, 2014 |
Another thread to set christians against christians. Christians una well done ooo. |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by SalC: 6:47am On Oct 13, 2014 |
incofab:Who is a believer? I don't mean by lip service but a true believer and what prevents a believer who is sanctified from being a saint? |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by LORDI(m): 6:56am On Oct 13, 2014 |
. Mary The mother of christ .......... |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by CuteMaro(m): 6:56am On Oct 13, 2014 |
Oh please guys, let's stop this... lol, c pipo dey form Christian dey quote Bible.. this is ridiculous, hw many of you here can stand firm and declare himself a true Christian. God is watching. IMO, religion has caused more harm than good, and sometimes I even av my doubts.. Let's leave these things, they r beyond us. Eva wondered dat if we all were born Muslims we would argue differently?.. Plz my pipo let's live in peace. 1 Like |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by DorisK(f): 8:40am On Oct 13, 2014 |
nnatom: Yea. Just lik at d wedding in Canaan. |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by engrsoma(m): 8:40am On Oct 13, 2014 |
Yes Mary is a favoured Woman. But She was a human being like me and you. She later had other children but this time she was impregnated by joseph. Matthew 13:55 • "Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?" Matthew 27:56 • "Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children." Mark 3:31 • "There came then His Brethren and His Mother, and standing without, sent unto Him calling Him." Mark 6:3 • "Is not this the carpenter, the Son of Mary, the Brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him." Matthew 1:24-25 • "Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him HIS WIFE: • And knew her not Until she had brought forth her firstborn Son: and he called His name, Jesus!" He 'Knew her' not (didn't have physical intimate union with her) until she had brought forth her Firstborn, Jesus. From this statement, it is clear that He knew her (in the biblical sense) AFTER the birth of Jesus. As a practical example, if someone were to say that they took a wife, but didn't consummate the marriage until after January, and in reply I stated that this means they never consummated the marriage, you would think that ridiculous. And you'd be right. But this is exactly what Roman catholics do in regards to the above verses of scripture. I REST MY CASE. |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by miketayo(m): 9:03am On Oct 13, 2014 |
sheunfemix: y do people goto pastors to pray for them huh huh? yes Joseph was from David's lineage, but what do u think ll happen if Mary had said no to the Angel Gabriel? |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by miketayo(m): 9:07am On Oct 13, 2014 |
mirexxx: and we honour them too. satisfied? |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by incofab(m): 9:14am On Oct 13, 2014 |
SalC:Get the definitions right Salc. A believer is anyone that is sanctified in Christ Jesus while a Saint someone that lived a life of exceptional Holiness. So, common knowledge should tell u that not all believers are saints. the next question is: How do u know if someone lived a life of exceptional Holiness? That IMO is only left for God to judge. The Catholic Church however examine the life of some Christians who lived exceptional lives or did extraordinary things through the power of the Lord and canonize them as Saints. Some of these saints have some or most part of their body incorrupt after several months or years of there death Which is a clear sign that there's something extraordinary about it. so dear, that u are sanctified in Christ Jesus doesn't automatically make u a saint. |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by Ddy(m): 9:21am On Oct 13, 2014 |
nnatom: u get plenty time ooooooo.am nt against honoring mary bt why bowing down to graving images against what d second commandment said. pls Rev fr clarify me on that. |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by SalC: 9:39am On Oct 13, 2014 |
incofab:Sorry but your definition of a believer here is actually the definition of a saint, To be sanctified in Christ is to be made Holy, observe the words "Saint and Sanctify" and you don't even need a dictionary to know they are synonymous, you can look up. Heb 12:23 and see that people are made "perfect" (sanctified) by Christ, and mind you there are far more saints than those canonised and that's why we have the "All saints day" So I don't get it when you said a santified person isn't a saint. What I will accept here is if you say "those canonised are those whose exceptional live of holiness were ascertained or verified by the church". |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by incofab(m): 9:39am On Oct 13, 2014 |
It's one thing to believe in what u believe but it's entirely another thing to abuse or castigate others. It either shows an act of desperation or Jealousy or both. You hardly see a Catholic priest criticize another denomination yet must pastors in other denomination will be comfortable enough to preach against Catholicism for the whole sermon. If only some of us knew how long and the difficulties the Catholic Church had before it came to a conclusion that the Blessed mother must b revered, your arguments would have been different. In as much as I don't agree with u, I completely respect your opinion. someone even said Catholic is Antichrist, I don't knw his reason but with such ability to knw the denomination that is Antichrist, He can as well b able to look u in the face and tell u if u are going to heaven or not. When Catholics say that all that happ 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by incofab(m): 9:42am On Oct 13, 2014 |
It's one thing to believe in what u believe but it's entirely another thing to abuse or castigate others. It either shows an act of desperation or Jealousy or both. You hardly see a Catholic priest criticize another denomination yet must pastors in other denomination will be comfortable enough to preach against Catholicism for the whole sermon. If only some of us knew how long and the difficulties the Catholic Church had before it came to a conclusion that the Blessed mother must b revered, your arguments would have been different. In as much as I don't agree with u, I completely respect your opinion. someone even said Catholic is Antichrist, I don't knw his reason but with such ability to knw the denomination that is Antichrist, He can as well b able to look u in the face and tell u if u are going to heaven or not. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by sheunfemix: 9:47am On Oct 13, 2014 |
Syncan:Why? |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by sheunfemix: 9:59am On Oct 13, 2014 |
miketayo:What pastors do is called interceding it is a place where God has called us all into. Praying for others like u pray for ur spouse or parent. But these people are alive, and once ur pastor is dead and gone, I'm soRry u can't ask him to pray for u anymore. U are on ur own. And if Mary did not accept to birth christ another person would have that is why it is said that she was favoured and Graced which mean she didn't merit it. But more importantly, twas becos she was to marry Joseph if she wasn't to marry Joseph the birth of Christ might be from Someone else whom Joseph was to marry or probably anoda generation of David. 2 Likes |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by incofab(m): 10:19am On Oct 13, 2014 |
SalC:well, let's not argue that but whichever way u look at it, your earlier statement that prompted me to respond is wrong. just wana correct that notion. You said that: "1 Cor 1:1-2 implies that all believers are saints" but that's not actually what the verse said as 1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: the Bible didn't use the word believers, u invented that one yourself thereby u are of the opinion that those sanctified in Christ Jesus are believers "according to the verse" (of which I equally agree). But the same verse does not state or imply that they are saints. Ofcourse, There are many other saints that are not canonized or celebrated by the church but that's only because of absent of proof. The Church can only canonized the ones they've verified that's why I said only God knows that lived a life of extraordinary Holiness. My singular response still remains that all believers are not saints |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by Dewze(m): 10:24am On Oct 13, 2014 |
nnatom:it is really hard to believe that God was talking about Himself here. I mean, after reading this verse, the question pop up again in my head, "is Jesus really God"? |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by mirexxx(f): 10:30am On Oct 13, 2014 |
miketayo:lol lie |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by judithonyi(f): 11:01am On Oct 13, 2014 |
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Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by tranxo(m): 11:04am On Oct 13, 2014 |
Question: "What did Jesus mean when He said 'I am the way and the truth and the life' (John 14:6)?" Answer: “I am the way and the truth and the life” is one of the seven “I Am” statements of Jesus. On the last night before His betrayal and death, Jesus was preparing His disciples for the days ahead. For over three years, these men had been following Jesus and learning from His teaching and example. They had placed their hopes in Him as the Messiah, the promised deliverer, yet they still didn't understand how He was going to accomplish that deliverance. After the Last Supper, Jesus began speaking about His departure, which led to questions from His disciples. In John 13:33, Jesus said, “My children, I will be with you only a little longer. You will look for me, and just as I told the Jews, so I tell you now: Where I am going, you cannot come.” This prompted Peter to ask where He was going (v. 36). Peter and the others did not understand that Jesus was speaking of His death and ascension to Heaven. Jesus' response was “Where I am going, you cannot follow now, but you will follow later.” Peter was still misunderstanding and declared that he would follow Jesus anywhere and even lay His life down if necessary. As Jesus patiently continued to teach His disciples, He began speaking more plainly about heaven, describing the place He was going to prepare for them (John 14:2-3). Then Jesus said “You know the way to the place where I am going” (v. 4). Speaking for the others, Thomas said they did not know where He was going, so how could they know how to follow Him there? It was to this question that Jesus uttered one of the seven famous “I am” statements. I am – In the Greek language, “I am” is a very intense way of referring to oneself. It would be comparable to saying, “I myself, and only I, am.” Several other times in the Gospels we find Jesus using these words. In Matthew 22:32 Jesus quotes Exodus 3:6, where God uses the same intensive form to say “I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” In John 8:58, Jesus said “Truly, truly I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am.” The Jews clearly understood Jesus to be calling Himself God because they took up stones to stone Him for committing blasphemy in equating Himself with God. In Matthew 28:20, as Jesus gave the Great Commission, He gave it emphasis by saying “I am with you always, to the end of the age.” When the soldiers came seeking Jesus in the garden the night before His crucifixion, He told them “I am he” and His words were so powerful that the soldiers fell to the ground (John 18:4-6). These words reflect the very name of God in Hebrew, Yahweh, which means “to be” or “the self-existing one.” It is the name of power and authority, and Jesus claimed it as His own. The way – Jesus used the definite article to distinguish Himself as “the only way.” A way is a path or route, and the disciples had expressed their confusion about where He was going, and how they could follow. As He had told them from the beginning, Jesus was again telling them (and us) “follow me.” There is no other path to Heaven, no other way to the Father. Peter reiterated this same truth years later to the rulers in Jerusalem, saying about Jesus, “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). The exclusive nature of the only path to salvation is expressed in the words “I am the way.” The truth – Again Jesus used the definite article to emphasize Himself as “the only truth.” Psalm 119:142 says “Your law is the truth.” In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus reminded His listeners of several points of the Law, then said “but I say unto you...” (Matthew 5:22, 28, 32, 34, 39, 44), thereby equating Himself with the Law of God as the authoritative standard of righteousness. In fact, Jesus said that He came to fulfill the law and the prophets (Matthew 5:17). Jesus, as the incarnate Word of God (John 1:1) is the source of all truth. The life – Jesus had just been telling His disciples about His impending death, and now He was claiming to be the source of all life. In John 10:17-18, Jesus declared that He was going to lay down His life for His sheep, and then take it back again. He spoke of His authority over life and death as being granted to Him by the Father. In John 14:19, He gave the promise that “because I live, you also will live.” The deliverance He was about to provide was not a political or social deliverance (which most of the Jews were seeking), but a true deliverance from a life of bondage to sin and death to a life of freedom in eternity. In these words, Jesus was declaring Himself the great “I Am,” the only path to righteousness, the only true measure of righteousness, and the source of both physical and spiritual life. He was staking His claim as the very God of Creation, the Lord who blessed Abraham, and the Holy One who inhabits eternity. He did this so the disciples would be able to face the dark days ahead and carry on the mission of declaring the gospel to the world. Of course, we know from Scripture that they still didn't understand, and it took several visits from their risen Lord to shake them out of their disbelief. Once they understood the truth of His words, they became changed people, and the world has never been the same. So how do we follow Him today? The same way the disciples did long ago. They heard the words of Jesus and believed them. They took His words and obeyed them. They confessed their sins to Jesus as their Lord and God. They believed that He died to take the punishment of their sins and rose from the dead to give them new life. They followed His example and command to tell others the truth about sin, righteousness, and judgment. When we follow Him in “the way,” we can be assured of following Him all the way to Heaven. Source: http://www.gotquestions.org/way-truth-life.html 1 Like |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by wirelex: 11:52am On Oct 13, 2014 |
@nnatom, please ignore some of these guys who have bluntly refused to agree with clear references from the Bible about the Virgin Mary. How can someone open his mouth and say Mary sinned after giving birth, this is the most blasphemous thing I have heard. Same people you tell a million and one times that Catholics honour Mary and not worship her and they still dont understand. I pray the Spirit touch their hearts. Amen and remain blessed everyone. |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by Simpsonrocket(m): 12:09pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
Weah96:read Isaiah 7:14. |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by Weah96: 1:16pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
Simpsonrocket: Nah, u read it. Young lady doesn't mean virgin. |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by Nobody: 1:27pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
i just hope they are no mohamedians on this thread.They better to to their isis enclave |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by Nobody: 1:27pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
btoks: me sef i tireoo |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by john365: 1:46pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
btoks: Did our LORD Jesus Christ sinned that HE needed to be Baptized? so whats wrong if our Blessed Mother Mary set the example of calling Our LORD her Saviour? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by OlusolaWarrior: 2:11pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
Mary was a fornicator. She was fucking someone other than Joseph and only lied about one yeye "holy spirit" overshadowing her in order to avoid being publicly stoned! OLAADEGBU: |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by engrsoma(m): 3:39pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
incofab:I have seen a Catholic priest mock the Protestants. He said "And soeme people would try to force the holy spirit on you, Recieve it receive it" Anf every one in the church laughed |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by knowledge4(m): 4:20pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
She was highly favoured to be selected to be the vessel for the delivery of baby Jesus. i.e.His earthly mother. That is all about the Virgin Mary as far as the Bible goes. The mother of Jesus is not an idol to be worshiped as the Catholics erroneously do. Mary also fought for her salvation like every other did. Only Jesus Christ is the Savior of the World, who has a name above every other name Only Jesus is to be worshiped. Worshipping Mary is idolatry and a heresy that will condemn the offenders to eternal hell |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by talk2chichi: 5:05pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU:What is wrong with Mother Mary praising God her Creator? You pentecostal's I don't know what your problems are, it not by force, allow we the Catholics to honour the Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ if you don't want to, please stay clear. |
Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by talk2chichi: 5:23pm On Oct 13, 2014 |
engrsoma:Your pastors do the same just as you the members do. |
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