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Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by Kay17: 11:44am On Oct 16, 2014
Xcapist:
I said this once, I'll say it again. MizMyColi is like a bridge that connects the best of two worlds; Atheism and Theism. It's an unlikely and apparently contradictory role by she seem to be playing it well and with much grace. And you really can't go wrong with love and compassion, can you? One other person that I similarly appreciate for his worldview is Ymodolus. I subscribe to your statement of 'faith' bro.

If religious people could relinguish their hubristic need to always be absolutely right about everything based on some ancient millenia old text and focus more on being more loving, kind and compassionate then religion will not be a seed of discord among us. God bless you MizMyColi. God bless you Ymodolus. God bless all Secular Humanists everywhere. God bless all peace loving people, God bless us all. And God bless me grin May we all grow in Grace and Love and find Inner Peace as we live out our respective Truths.

I think MizMyColi is a plain coward trying to cling and get the best out of two opposing 'worlds'. What the hell is compassion and love?! It is people with filled stomachs that have much to say about the universality of love and compassion. Life itself is a struggle, an internal war either between right and wrong or hope and hopelessness; hatred is as necessary as love, because you can not love evil, one must hate it.

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Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by MizMyColi(f): 11:53am On Oct 16, 2014
Kay17:


I think MizMyColi is a plain coward trying to cling and get the best out of two opposing 'worlds'. What the hell is compassion and love?! It is people with filled stomachs that have much to say about the universality of love and compassion. Life itself is a struggle, an internal war either between right and wrong or hope and hopelessness; hatred is as necessary as love, because you can not love evil, one must hate it.

Chi-zos! shocked shocked

Two things.

1. Are you a Christian?


2. Check out this music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVjRe8QXFHY


It's titled Best of Both worlds. Mix it all together and you'll know you got the best of both worlds cheesy
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by PastorOluT(m): 12:05pm On Oct 16, 2014
MizMyColi:



See? that's the issue I have with Christians.

If I get a revelation that is not explicitly written in the bible, then it must be discarded.
The bible, instead of Jesus has become the standard for their lives.

Honestly, do you really think you can box God in some One thousand pages of one book, written by humans?
Fallible humans at that?

Owh maybe God spoke more actively in those days, maybe he created them specifically to write the bible and after that he closed his portal of revelations.

So if I do not have a bible verse to back up a reveation that resonates as VERY true in my spirit, then I must go for a psych eval of sorts or admit being under the influence of satan? undecided

Talking about what informed my decision, isn't it written somewhere in the bible that as Jesus Christ is, so am I?
Isn't it also written that I am a god?
As human as Jesus was, there is not a single iota of doubt about his Divinity. Why doubt mine?
Am I not SEATED with him in heavenly places, far above principalities and powers..........

I mean!?
What other proof do you need of how divine, how powerful, how limitless and boundless I am?


FYI
I am
A Student of Jesus
I want to be courageously human, a powerful expression of love, acceptance, peace, beauty, goodness, freedom and compassion in this world, and live without separation from myself, God, others and life… as I see Jesus did.

Y'see,
Honestly, these days, I don't even enjoy quoting the bible.
What do I need it for anyway, since the word of God lives in me.

Owh, I refer to it once in a while though - it's not utterly bad.
Whenever I'm led to pick up the bible again, I definitely will. I doubt that'd be anytime soon though.

I guess that's my punishment of sorts for elevating the bible above the creator himself.
For not realizing that the bible is a POINTER, not the POINT.

I would love to talk to you about my journey, how I got to where I am now - I mean "my confused state".
But I'll spare us the stress.
I sense that it'd be an exercise in futility.
wink

Nope I am ears, shoot, smile u don't me lady!
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by Kay17: 12:10pm On Oct 16, 2014
MizMyColi:


Chi-zos! shocked shocked

Two things.

1. Are you a Christian?


2. Check out this music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVjRe8QXFHY




It's titled Best of Both worlds. Mix it all together and you'll know you got the best of both worlds cheesy

beautiful song.
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by wiegraf: 12:27pm On Oct 16, 2014
Kay17:


I think MizMyColi is a plain coward trying to cling and get the best out of two opposing 'worlds'. What the hell is compassion and love?! It is people with filled stomachs that have much to say about the universality of love and compassion. Life itself is a struggle, an internal war either between right and wrong or hope and hopelessness; hatred is as necessary as love, because you can not love evil, one must hate it.

too harsh. too true
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by MizMyColi(f): 12:34pm On Oct 16, 2014
Kay17
You've not answered my question, are you a Christian?

Wiegraf, "too true" really!?
undecided
Care to expatiate?
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by pickabeau1: 12:45pm On Oct 16, 2014
MzMyColi

There is a question ive been meaning to ask u
How can one say she is saved by the blood of Christ and yet denounce the Bible
please explain





This post is really harsh but i understand the sentiment
How can one be hot and cold at the same time

Kay17:


I think MizMyColi is a plain coward trying to cling and get the best out of two opposing 'worlds'. What the hell is compassion and love?! It is people with filled stomachs that have much to say about the universality of love and compassion. Life itself is a struggle, an internal war either between right and wrong or hope and hopelessness; hatred is as necessary as love, because you can not love evil, one must hate it.
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by MizMyColi(f): 12:58pm On Oct 16, 2014
pickabeau1:

MzMyColi

There is a question ive been meaning to ask u
How can one say she is saved by the blood of Christ and yet denounce the Bible
please explain





This post is really harsh but i understand the sentiment
How can one be hot and cold at the same time



Are you implying that I am hot and cold?
Could you explicitly expatiate?

Where have I denounced the bible biko num.

I simply said, for now I have stopped reading the bible.
Whether I will read it again in the future, I don't know.
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by Kay17: 12:58pm On Oct 16, 2014
MizMyColi:
Kay17
You've not answered my question, are you a Christian?

Wiegraf, "too true" really!?
undecided
Care to expatiate?

atheistic christian
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by MizMyColi(f): 1:00pm On Oct 16, 2014
Kay17:


atheistic christian

So what are your beliefs exactly.
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by pickabeau1: 1:04pm On Oct 16, 2014
MizMyColi:


Are you implying that I am hot and cold?
Could you explicitly expatiate?

Where have I denounced the bible biko num.

I simply said, for now I have stopped reading the bible.
Whether I will read it again in the future, I don't know.



Someone said u are a bridge between atheism and theism.. thats where the hot and cold reference is from.. assign temperatures at your will

I will like to get your view points

- Who is Jesus to you
- Who is the Holy Spirit to you
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by honourhim: 1:05pm On Oct 16, 2014
MizMyColi:
Kay17
You've not answered my question, are you a Christian?

Wiegraf, "too true" really!?
undecided
Care to expatiate?

You ve not answered mine. grin
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by urheme: 1:12pm On Oct 16, 2014
0p is a confuse ex-Christian slave who want to substitute God for some vague forces which she calls spirit, you are venting your anger for God by laying ambush for Christians grin grin

divinity my foot.

op should meet highpriest, pagannaija, and oduduwaboy for proper recruitment and initiation.

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Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by MizMyColi(f): 1:17pm On Oct 16, 2014
pickabeau1:



Someone said u are a bridge between atheism and theism.. thats where the hot and cold reference is from.. assign temperatures at your will

I will like to get your view points

- Who is Jesus to you
- Who is the Holy Spirit to you

So you think Atheists are cold, and theists, Haaawwwt.
Lolest.
Have you met xcapist and his likes in real life, outside NL?
You should sometime.

Lolest.
Like I asserted earlier.
Jesus is who I am. For it is no longer me that lives, but him that lives in me (see grin I just quoted the bible).
I want to be courageously human, a powerful expression of love, acceptance, peace, beauty, goodness, freedom and compassion in this world, and live without separation from myself, God, others and life… as I see Jesus did.


The holyspirit is one with me. He is the life giving force. He is not a force that is out there. He lives within, within me. Yet he mnifests without. I believe he is present in all men.
He prays through me.
I rarely pray in english these days.
Sometimes, when I wanna pray, It's just like a force takes control of my tongue and I speak gibberish/strange language even when I'd set out to pray in English. Christians call it speaking in tongues.

I don't blame him though, I actually yielded all of my being to him/it. before I started replying comments on this thread, I consciously asked him to help me. Left for me, I would have been really bitter at some of the comments I've seen here, especially that of Kay17, but all I feel like doing, all I want to do is give him grace.

Your question answered?
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by MizMyColi(f): 1:20pm On Oct 16, 2014
urheme:
0p is a confuse ex-Christian slave who want to substitute God for some vague forces which she calls spirit, you are venting your anger for God by laying ambush for Christians grin grin

divinity my foot.

op should meet highpriest, pagannaija, and oduduwaboy for proper recruitment and initiation.

The brand of weed you've been smoking is obviously compromised.

Try


Elephant grass and cheap skunk wink
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by pickabeau1: 1:21pm On Oct 16, 2014
As i said assign temps at your will

I have read your post and will like further clarifications


-Jesus is who I am. For it is no longer me that lives, but him that lives in me
- the Him here is God..i believe?
please explain

- The holyspirit is one with me. He is the life giving force. He is not a force that is out there. He lives within, within me. Yet he mnifests without. I believe he is present in all men.

Explain the spirit dwelling in all men. does this mean whether they are saved or not




MizMyColi:


So you think Atheists are cold, and theists, Haaawwwt.
Lolest.
Have you met xcapist and his likes in real life, outside NL?
You should sometime.

Lolest.
Like I asserted earlier.
Jesus is who I am. For it is no longer me that lives, but him that lives in me (see grin I just quoted the bible).
I want to be courageously human, a powerful expression of love, acceptance, peace, beauty, goodness, freedom and compassion in this world, and live without separation from myself, God, others and life… as I see Jesus did.


The holyspirit is one with me. He is the life giving force. He is not a force that is out there. He lives within, within me. Yet he mnifests without. I believe he is present in all men.
He prays through me.
I rarely pray in english these days.
Sometimes, when I wanna pray, It's just like a force takes control of my tongue and I speak gibberish/strange language even when I'd set out to pray in English. Christians call it speaking in tongues.

I don't blame him though, I actually yielded all of my being to him/it. before I started replying comments on this thread, I consciously asked him to help me. Left for me, I would have been really bitter at some of the comments I've seen here, especially that of Kay17, but all I feel like doing, all I want to do is give him grace.

Your question answered?
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by MizMyColi(f): 1:22pm On Oct 16, 2014
honourhim:


You ve not answered mine. grin

I'd be merely repeating mysef I were to.
The answers you seek, I believe I have expatiated on.
However, if you're not satisfied, then I honestly don't have the answers you seek.

Maybe some other time.
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by MizMyColi(f): 1:29pm On Oct 16, 2014
pickabeau1:

As i said assign temps at your will

That won't be necessary, because I do not accept you proposition/opinion that I am hot or cold.
What I accept is my humanity.


I have read your post and will like further clarifications


- the Him here is God..i believe?
please explain

God, the creator, the almighty, the one who has no darkness in him, neither shadow of turning. The one who has revealed himself to me.



Explain the spirit dwelling in all men. does this mean whether they are saved or not

Everyone is saved.
Some just don't realize yet.
Some will never realize it in this age, but they will eventually, in the age to come.
The Gospel of Christ is not a proclamation.
It's an invitation to all men, to come and see, what he has done, for them, once and for all.
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by pickabeau1: 1:34pm On Oct 16, 2014
MizMyColi:




That won't be necessary, because I do not accept you proposition/opinion that I am hot or cold.
What I accept is my humanity.



No problem
Humanity?

But humanity is flawed and Christ came to give us a path to divinity
Agree?



God, the creator, the almighty, the one who has no darkness in him, neither shadow of turning. The one who has revealed himself to me.


.. yet he says I am a vengeful God.. visiting the sins of the fathers unto the fourth generation
This same God struck thousands who did not obey his word in the wilderness
Are u talking of a place of extreme familiarity or a fuzzy fatherfigure



Everyone is saved.
Some just don't realize yet.
Some will never realize it in this age, but they will eventually, in the age to come.
The Gospel of Christ is not a proclamation.
It's an invitation to all men, to come and see, what he has done, for them, once and for all.


Can u explainfurther... everyone is saved
Do u mean we will be saved in the afterlife
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by urheme: 1:49pm On Oct 16, 2014
MizMyColi:


The brand of weed you've been smoking is obviously compromised.

Try


Elephant grass and cheap skunk wink

noted.

this is the evidence of the holy spirit who resides in your very self. pathetic

MizMyColi:

So you think Atheists are cold, and theists, Haaawwwt.
Lolest.
Have you met xcapist and his likes in real life, outside NL?
You should sometime.
Lolest.
Like I asserted earlier.
Jesus is who I am. For it is no longer me that lives, but him that lives in me (see grin I just quoted the bible).
I want to be courageously human, a powerful expression of love, acceptance, peace, beauty, goodness, freedom and compassion in this world, and live without separation from myself, God, others and life… as I see Jesus did.
The holyspirit is one with me. He is the life giving force. He is not a force that is out there. He lives within, within me. Yet he mnifests without. I believe he is present in all men.
He prays through me.
I rarely pray in english these days.
[b] Sometimes, when I wanna pray, It's just like a force takes control of my tongue and I speak gibberish/strange language even when I'd set out to pray in English. Christians call it speaking in tongues.
[/b]I don't blame him though, I actually yielded all of my being to him/it. before I started replying comments on this thread, I consciously asked him to help me. Left for me, I would have been really bitter at some of the comments I've seen here, especially that of Kay17, but all I feel like doing, all I want to do is give him grace.
Your question answered?

when you start talking gibberish know that the ogogoro in your system has contaminated/surpass that of the spirit you claimed holy.

the holy spirit now embarrasses you... make you mad,... and talk rubbish, arrant nonsense.......

INSANE Delusion
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by MizMyColi(f): 1:55pm On Oct 16, 2014
pickabeau1:

No problem
Humanity?

But humanity is flawed and Christ came to give us a path to divinity
Agree?

At the base of our being, in our original being, we are not flawed, we are not inherently bad.
From the bible's account, I think what happened to humanity was more like a virus attack, we needed to be reformatted.

Jesus came to reconcile us back to the father, not reconcile the father to us.
He didn't come to give us a path to divinity.

He came to show us our divinity.
He came to make us realize that as he is, so are we.
Gradually, humanity will awaken to her profoundness.
The earnest of creation awaits us.
Our manifestation, as sons.




.. yet he says I am a vengeful God.. visiting the sins of the fathers unto the fourth generation
This same God struck thousands who did not obey his word in the wilderness


That God is my devil. I no longer believe God, as I now know him was responsible for those incidents. Sometimes, I don't know what to believe even, more reason I dropped the bible, for now.
#EndOfStory


Are u talking of a place of extreme familiarity or a fuzzy fatherfigure

Familiarity, No. He still awes me everyday.
Truth is, if I were to take God as he has been presented in the bible. If I do not know better, that God as I know him, was never responsible for the Genocides and killings he's been accused of over the ages - I would be a full blown atheist by now.
And Yes, you're right, he is not just a father figure, he is my Father. That's why I'm called Adannaya.
No, he is not fuzzy.
He is as real to me as this water before me.
Thing is, I may not be able to prove that to anyone, and I don't care.
Infact, in this regard, I don't mind being called the most foolish ever liveth.




Can u explainfurther... everyone is saved
Do u mean we will be saved in the afterlife

No, I won't.
When it comes to theology, I am not sooo sure.
So I'd rather keep mute and talk about the things I've experienced and seen to be true in my life.
I believe though that everyone has Christ in them, for he fills all things with himself ALL IN ALL.
Some just don't realize yet.
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by MizMyColi(f): 1:57pm On Oct 16, 2014
urheme:


noted.

this is the evidence of the holy spirit who resides in your very self. pathetic



when you start talking gibberish know that the ogogoro in your system has contaminated/surpass that of the spirit you claimed holy.

the holy spirit now embarrasses you... make you mad,... and talk rubbish, arrant nonsense.......

INSANE Delusion


Thanks smiley
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by MizMyColi(f): 2:03pm On Oct 16, 2014
Kay17, I await your reply.
I need to know.

That's the only way I can give a befitting reply to that post where you called me a coward.

Please do when you can.

Thanks.
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by pickabeau1: 2:06pm On Oct 16, 2014
MizMyColi:
At the base of our being, in our original being, we are not flawed, we are not inherently bad.
From the bible's account, I think what happened to humanity was more like a virus attack, we needed to be reformatted.

Jesus came to reconcile us back to the father, not reconcile the father to us.
He didn't come to give us a path to divinity.

He came to show us our divinity.
He came to make us realize that as he is, so are we.
Gradually, humanity will awaken to her profoundness.
The earnest of creation awaits us.
Our manifestation, as sons.

I wish you used more references as i dont know which is scriptural and which is your own inference
Jesus is the Way.. no man cometh to the Father but by him
The word says He will no longer strive with flesh. and it needed a sacrifice of blood to restore us to the Father
. so i dont get your allegory about formatting and viruses..



That God is my devil. I no longer believe God, as I now know him was responsible for those incidents. Sometimes, I don't know what to believe even, more reason I dropped the bible, for now.
#EndOfStory


Interesting


Familiarity, No. He still awes me everyday.
Truth is, if I were to take God as he has been presented in the bible. If I do not know better, that God as I know him, was never responsible for the Genocides and killings he's been accused of over the ages - I would be a full blown atheist by now.
And Yes, you're right, he is not just a father figure, he is my Father. That's why I'm called Adannaya.
No, he is not fuzzy.
He is as real to me as this water before me.
Thing is, I may not be able to prove that to anyone, and I don't care.
Infact, in this regard, I don't mind being called the most foolish ever liveth.

No, I won't.
When it comes to theology, I am not sooo sure.
So I'd rather keep mute and talk about the things I've experienced and seen to be true in my life.
I believe though that everyone has Christ in them, for he fills all things with himself ALL IN ALL.
Some just don't realize yet.

Fair enough,,, you dont have to say things u are not certain of


So what do u mean when u say u see yourself as a bridge between theism and atheism
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by MizMyColi(f): 2:08pm On Oct 16, 2014
pickabeau1:


So what do u mean when u say u see yourself as a bridge between theism and atheism

I never said that.
That's xcapist's kind opinion of me.
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by pickabeau1: 2:08pm On Oct 16, 2014
MizMyColi:


I never said that.
That's xcapist's kind opinion of me.

What is your opinion of his opinion
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by MizMyColi(f): 2:12pm On Oct 16, 2014
pickabeau1:


What is your opinion of his opinion

Haven't given it a thought really.
I think it sounds cool tho'

Check irrout

"I said this once, I'll say it again. MizMyColi is like a bridge that connects the best of two worlds; Atheism and Theism. It's an unlikely and apparently contradictory role but she seems to be playing it well and with much grace. And you really can't go wrong with love and compassion, can you?"
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by pickabeau1: 2:15pm On Oct 16, 2014
MizMyColi:


Haven't given it a thought really.
I think it sounds cool tho'

Check irrout


ok... so you believe there can be an understanding between a belief that denies the existence of God and another that believes in that same God

In another time and place, im sure u would have formed a movement but now.. i dont know weda your experiences or insights push you or you really yearn for that spot of kumbaya
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by urheme: 2:18pm On Oct 16, 2014
MizMyColi:


Thanks smiley

grin
please don't go committing crimes in the name of holy spirit, try and keep it at the gibberish level.
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by jplay(m): 2:21pm On Oct 16, 2014
u just dey copy copy n paste sha
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by MizMyColi(f): 2:22pm On Oct 16, 2014
[quote author=pickabeau1 post=27193921]

ok... so you believe there can be an understanding between a belief that denies the existence of God and another that believes in that same God

Yes!
Yes!

I believe. Mutual respect is key.
Both sides need to stop feeling superior over the other.
They need to give each other grace.

They need to accept people based on their person(alities), not their belief or unbelief.
Before we were born into religion, first we were born humans.


In another time and place, im sure u would have formed a movement but now.. i dont know weda your experiences or insights push you or you really yearn for that spot of kumbaya

Movement?
Lolest.

Experience, kumbaya and insights.

For example.

That my BE-ING alone is all the proof I need of my Divinity.
^^^ That's a kumbaya of sorts.
Re: OPINION: Violence Is Not Part Of God's Nature. by MizMyColi(f): 2:30pm On Oct 16, 2014
urheme:


grin
please don't go committing crimes in the name of holy spirit, try and keep it at the gibberish level.

honestly?
D'ya think you just made any senxse?
undecided undecided undecided

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