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Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Maamin(m): 3:19pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Mustiboy: That is part of your quran that Moh'd's followers forgot to add...Sorry to say pls! But The Bible was way before 1500 years ago. 1 Like |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by adepiero: 3:25pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
An2elect2:I thought you were open to reasoning but clearly, you are lost But God knows best |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Rilwayne001: 3:30pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
An2elect2:Really So because Jesus told His disciples that He knows not the hour that automatically means He is not God? Tell me why he does not know when the hour would come, lol clapping for this foolery.Your own foolery rather. Now i ask you. What happens to the multiple scriptures that clearly label Jesus as God?Present them please. But before then, let me throw mine first: ISAIAH 45:5 – I am the LORD , and there is none else, there is no God beside me : I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: Tell me Jesus was the one talking here^^^ Do you know anything about scripture interpreting itself? Do you? |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Maamin(m): 3:31pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
rossi49ja: Why dont you try knowing what I believe in before coming to spree your ignorance..i dont follow any imam ok! |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Maamin(m): 3:38pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Mustiboy: muslim's allah now costumize name on tomatoe |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by sademola: 3:40pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Macelliot: Isn't this comment needless? |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Maamin(m): 3:46pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Weselion: What makes you think I have chief imams? |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by adepiero: 3:47pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
[Deuteronomy 18:18] - "I will raise for them a Prophet like you (Moses) from among their brethren and will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them, all that I command him." From the above it clearly shows the bible was referring to Prophet Mohammed (S.A.W) because Christians believe Jesus (P.B.U.H) to be God and not a prophet. The phrase: "I will put My words in his mouth", takes on great significance because Prophet Muhammad was unlettered; he did not know how to read or write. Normally God would put the message in the Prophet's mind. In this case attention is drawn towards "words" being put into the "mouth". Prophet Muhammad's sayings as well as eye witness accounts describe his receiving the verses of the Holy Qur'an , and his tongue moving with the words being put in his mouth. Turning to the New Testament, let us look at John 14:15-16. It says: "15. If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16. And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another 'comforter' (helper in other versions), that he may abide with you forever."Also John 15:26-27, John 16:5-8 and John 16:12-14. |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by An2elect2(f): 3:59pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
adepiero: Really? you mean open to lies? Okay no i ve had enough already in my past life that to keep shut now when error is been perpetrated will be wicked of me. Let me tell you something adepiero. The reason you and your cohorts oppose truth is because that's the only way you can be kept bound. |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by adepiero: 4:02pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
An2elect2:Noted! |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Hexzyz(m): 4:04pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Macelliot: contrast this with this Bible verse For when they shall say, Peace and safety ; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 1 Thessalonians 5:3 When anti - christ comes, he is going to make the peace which the world clamour for. Then this verse will take it's effect. |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Maamin(m): 4:04pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
DaBullIT: Ok are you done..finally we dont worship thesame God.. God has a unique and eternal name which he says we shall remember him with forever. "Yahweh" from the root words in hebrew "eiyeh asher eiyeh" meaning "I am who I am" or better yet "I will be what I will be"..on the other hand Allah means God in arabic langauge which I totally agree with you..have you ever asked a muslim the true name of Allah? *sips mountain dew* |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Maamin(m): 4:11pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
GozieDiora: Hellooo! That question should be directed to the pope. I dont care who's ox is gored. |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Obascoetubi: 4:22pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Macelliot: why dont he go& pray in the church? remember. bible says,DO NOT BE FREIEND WITH NON BELIEVERS |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Maamin(m): 4:24pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
neoapocalypse: Thank you for noticing that..shalom aleichem! |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by An2elect2(f): 4:45pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: I wanted to let this pass me... but for the sake of those viewing this thread... Let me start with John 1:1 and John1:14a John1:1 "In the beginning was the "Word", and the "Word" was with God, and the "Word" was God." John 1:14a " And the "Word" was made flesh, and dwelt among us." Now those words in that verse quoted( Isaiah45:5) were indeed said by Christ himself. How i know. Please read the whole chapter and pay attention to verses 12: He made all things. look at colossians 1:16: all things were made for and by Him. verse25: In the Lord shall all the seed be justified. Look at Galatians 2:16: justified by the faith of Christ. |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by paxonel(m): 4:56pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
rckdude:if he comes back to the church, that means, that act of bowing down to shrine was not act of worship, but just a sign to pass one message, that he as a christian, is not in a fight with any babalawo and his religion, that everybody in the world have the right to practice any religion in the world, be it babalawo or anything. but if he continues with the babalawo and do not come back to the church there after, that means, he has been converted into babalawo worship, away from Christianity. in that case, i will conclude that, that is his choice, it will not in anyway affect the usual relationship i use to have with him outside religion |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Maamin(m): 5:16pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
adepiero: So you believe all this hun! Later you turn around and say the bible is corrupt abii.. mohahmmed must be turning over in his grave right now in disappointment. |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Donmichaelz(m): 5:21pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
paxonel:people like u anything can be ur mentor |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Maamin(m): 5:23pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Hexzyz: Gbam! |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Rilwayne001: 5:23pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
An2elect2:Alright Let me start with John 1:1 and John1:14a Before coming down to the New testament, can you tell us in the Old testament where jesus was believed to be God? John1:1 "In the beginning was the "Word", and the "Word" was with God , and the "Word" was God." There are 2 things involved here: 1) How can someone be with God and still be God? 2) Can you show me where Jesus himself teaches the above verse? remember jesus said 'A servant is not greater than his master.' is John greater than him? 3) How do you reconcile this verse “ God is not a man , that He should lie, Nor a son of man , that He shouldvrepent. Has He said, and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?...We all know jesus was a man. 4) Jesus reitreited Moses message in Deuteronomy 6:4 in Mark 12:29 was he still refering to himself? more questions coming. Now those words in that verse quoted( Isaiah45:5) were indeed said by Christ himself. How i know. Hmmm...Excuse me please, is Jesus the same as Yahweh? Please read the whole chapter and pay attention to verses 12: He made all things. look at colossians 1:16: all things were made for and by Him.verse25: In the Lord shall all the seed be justified. Look at Galatians 2:16: justified by the faith of Christ. First of all i believe Paul to be a false apostle. Can you validate your point about Jesus being God with the words of jesus himself without that of his apostles since the servant his not greater than his master? |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Adminisher: 5:34pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
This is an anti christ move. They want to bring Ecumenism to prepare the way for the antichri st 1 Like |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Rilwayne001: 5:38pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Adminisher: |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by rckdude: 5:46pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Maamin: |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Kassidy90(m): 5:51pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Maamin:Comments like urs makes me smiles.....u knw nothing about me or my believe, so pleaee do me a favour....shove it.. |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by DaBullIT(m): 5:52pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Maamin: Thanks , I'm not trying to prove over-sabi though . A question was asked and I answered , All I know for certain is that before the day of the Babylonians , whatever the name or the first civilization is @?@? The world spoke one language , God was angry because they tried to build a tower that'll reach heaven and that how the world began speaking different languages From that biblical account of the event , its safe to say every tribe, nation, belief and religion was one ! Until tower of babel ,I am sure that you'll agree that information is suppressed OR exaggerated once it leaves the source , depending on who is making the report , Take Nigeria for example the stories of creation for Yoruba , Hausa and Igbo traditional beliefs are almost the same , One god sent a messenger , in Yoruba land Eledumare sent Oduduwa . Oduduwa had a Crow and sand and so the story goes I guess my point , my assertion , my assumption is that my argument is not in the realm of impossibility , Keep a open mind and read a lot , you would see reason in my argument but it doesn't mean you must agree with me . For more info , type your search word and end it with wiki. E.g. oduduwa story of creation wiki. You'll automatically be directed to wikipedia and that's a source you can trust 85% |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by rckdude: 5:52pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
paxonel: Bravo! Good for you. You and your church are very compatible. Anyways I should to follow the instruction of the bible; I won't be unequally yoked with unbelivers. And am glad the pope only represents Catholics and not the christian world. |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Maamin(m): 6:16pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Kassidy90: Whatever your believe is, can you pay the same homage visit like the pope to other people's shrines and temples and pray and bow to what they bow to? |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by drnoel: 6:21pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Maamin: u saw what i wrote so tackle it |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Maamin(m): 6:23pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
DaBullIT: Ok, I repeat again we dont worship thesame God..thanks! |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Kassidy90(m): 6:25pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Maamin:Thats y i asked u to shove it......because u dont knw me |
Re: Pope Francis Prays In Istanbul's Blue Mosque by Maamin(m): 6:26pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
drnoel: Couldnt make any sense out of it that's why..come again pls! |
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