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Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by mctowel01: 11:47pm On Dec 24, 2014 |
honourhim:stop judging him. He is definitely not stupid to go around talking all these, considering where he is. coming from. I once called him a hypocrite, and almost dedicated a thread for him, so I know what I am saying. You know how atheists choose to irrevocably deny every presented evidence(though some may be untrue fabrications) I did that, then you know that period of jumping from article to researchs of different scientists et al. I. did all that too. I once stopped one day and told myself;why will I have to read up a writeup to conclude that a God/deity exists? If one exists,it sure doesn't need me to go searching the internet for proof. What about those who are not privileged to ascess it? Then I wondered, why I was thinking, why I was existing, How thoughts are formed, why/how do I see, why/how do I hear. These are for a purpose; to see whats around us, to hear sounds around, to know what our surroundings feel like, to smell the odour of our surroundings. I studied engineering, so I saw different applications of its concepts like the powerful feedback in the neurosystem, the controlled way of breathing and in one tiny organic matter cqlled a brain, I can think, discern feelings and all. Its safe to be at ease with my sanity and conclude that this world is much more than we physical beings. The male and female reproductive organs can't be the only 2 major basic organs for no reason. Everything is well calculated that you need a sperm at the heat of the moment to go with an egg for fertilization. Its for a purpose; reproduction. Its why we are alive. How do you love? why is there naturally a mother child love? why do most people naturally want to settle with a family? Looking at it from a wider scale, its simply for progress and growth. Its the reason why we are alive today, and we come from a chain of ancestors spanning centuries ago. The presence ofabstract qualities completely describes all these. We know whats good and bad, we feel happy, sad, joyful, hateful, distressed, anxious,...... where are these processed from, the brain that just magically and unconsciously assembled itself and decide to position itself in the head? Let me stop here. It cant get more obvious than this 1 Like |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 12:51am On Dec 25, 2014 |
honourhim: Turning me into atheism ![]() Let me rephrase so that your brainwashed self may just get it. This ain't got nothing to do with me but the countless youngsters who meet ediots like you during a period of spiritual enquiry and only reinforce their notion that your religion is dead because of your evasion, condescending responses and parochial mindset. What we need is intelligent people who with a sense of maturity and meekness can educate and guide those who are not certain about issues of the faith. This is certainly way out of your league so you won't get it. As for me, like the educated gentleman said, I am a believer in God but not the Pagan deity you worship which has 3 persons in one ( whatever that rubbish means ) , had a Virgin birth ( yeah right ) , and will torture everyone who refuses to believe in his son. Do you get it now ? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by honourhim: 7:19am On Dec 25, 2014 |
frosbel: Thank you mr 'ediot'. Now your hypocrisy has shown face. Were you not the one who rants like a mad man here that religious people abuse people when they are confronted? So what have you done now mr ediot? And in your madneess you keep ranting that people should be christ-like? Here you are displaying your anger in a most idiotic manner. Mr ediot i pity those who are following you.. frosbel: See Mr ediot talking about meekness. You are a complete hypocrite. Where is the meekness in you when you go about abusing people? frosbel: Mr ediot stop talking irrelevances. You dont have a case rather you are swimming in confusion. |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by honourhim: 7:49am On Dec 25, 2014 |
mctowel01: Its not a matter of judging bro. Dont worry yourself about that guy. His case is completely different. mctowel01: Interesting. Thanks for sharing. |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by MrPresident1: 10:37am On Dec 25, 2014 |
Weah96: Perhaps you will care to explain your stake in this discourse because I fail to understand it, seeing you are either atheist or agnostic. Christianity is a religion created out of the fusion of Roman pagan beliefs and the Bible, it is a mishmash of sorts, impure. So there is a difference between a Christian; one who follows Christ, and an adherent of Christianity; one who practices Christianity. I hope you can comprehend now. Google a Quran online, you will find what you seek. |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 12:50pm On Dec 25, 2014 |
honourhim: Now this is the typical Nigerian Christian I came to reject as having anything to do with Christ. This type is obnoxious, self-righteous,ignorant and behaving like his father the devil ![]() ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by honourhim: 1:23pm On Dec 25, 2014 |
frosbel: Yea your father the devil tells you to call somebody ediot and theres nothing wrong with it but when the person uses same word for you then it becomes wrong and typical of Nigerian christian? Did you hear your silly self hypocrite? And who cares whether you choose not to be called a christian? It appears something in you gives you a false image of yourself and you keep thinking that your going out of christianity diminshes us. You are a poison to christianity so stop giving yourself false hope. |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 1:32pm On Dec 25, 2014 |
honourhim: Paul said about Jesus : "He is able to deal gently with those who are ignorant and are going astray, since he himself is subject to weakness. " - Hebrews 5:2 So you who claim to be a believer , who uses the tag honourhim ( hahaha, what an oxymoron ) , should emulate the one you claim to honour and guide your so called backsliders to the faith with gentle persuasion, reasoning and prayer. Oh I forgot , you are a pretend believer not a real one like most Nigerian believers,lol. 1 Like |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by honourhim: 4:02pm On Dec 25, 2014 |
frosbel: ![]() ![]() Yes I'm a pretend believer because i dont rob people of their hard earned money in the name of God. I'm not "churchmatic" rather i believe the bible no matter how hard its truth may be. I dont believe in standing on middle ground when it comes to the bible. The bible was written several years ago and none of us alive this day witnessed the events rather we have faith in the power of God to accomplish all that is written there. Most of the things written there are supernatural events, events that are beyond science and logic and if i should doubt any like you, then i better doubt all. For example I cant doubt the virgin birth and still believe on the resurrection of the dead or believe in the creation of a new heaven and a new earth etc. It doesnt make sense at all. You keep attacking Nigerians when you are a Nigerian and in Nigeria. Whatever makes you happy though. |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by honourhim: 4:53pm On Dec 25, 2014 |
mctowel01: Dear friend don't you think its better you make known your former handle here. I mean the one you used when you were an atheist so that it could also help correct those who were convinced by you as an atheist? |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by Topgainer: 5:17pm On Dec 25, 2014 |
frosbel:First, I am not an RCCG member Adeboye is a general when it comes to winning souls. He has been in that business genuinely for decades. Listing his faults or trying to compare him to proven Charlatans like the Christ Embassy fellows and talknado prophets is unfair. The good thing about Pastor Adeboye is that he has not failed to admit his faults publicly, pray for forgiveness publicly and make adjustments. Over the past few years, I can count a number of such adjustments. This is a mark of a man who genuinely loves God unlike the arrogant Charlatans who will never admit to a mistake. For this attributes and much more he is cherished. He is not God and does not see himself as God, like some of his fans would have us believe In my opinion, among all the Pastors of mega Churches in Nigeria, Pastor E A Adeboye is the most qualified to have the appendage of a Man of God attached not that he is more powerful/knowledgeable than the rest in spiritual things but because he is the least arrogant and regularly he weighs his errors vis a viz the Bible. However, I had hoped Pastor E A Adeboye will resist the temptations of adopting the trends such as commercialization of the Gospel and Salvation, which allows for all sorts of things not necessarily bad but ungodly and wicked. For instance, building a university that the average church member will struggle to afford, making the redemption camp in addition to being a spiritual center, a place for buying and selling Jesus related products which otherwise should have been distributed free to members 2 Likes |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by CAPTIVATOR: 5:57pm On Dec 25, 2014 |
frosbel: Frosbel, I cant just measure the hypocrisy at work in those guys ..... He was Saying and repeating it that someone's life is in shambles !!! Is that how to correct someone ?? Well, I recently discover they worship that jesus with long hairs , #jez remember dat movie "passion of christ"# and those pictures everywhere ,,, whereas , the REAL JESUS dont have such an hair, "its a shame for a man to have long hairs" says the bible in 1 cor 11:14 !! I cant laugh Modern Christianity Is A Fraud 2 Likes |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by honourhim: 7:31pm On Dec 25, 2014 |
CAPTIVATOR: As usual you have come to support your no-hellfire mate so i dont expect you to say anything contrary to the trash you have just posted here. You just made the usual noise. |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 9:41pm On Dec 25, 2014 |
Topgainer: I disagree and will explain but read the article again, the author is 100% right. I have also been a member of the RCCG in the past. |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by honourhim: 10:43pm On Dec 25, 2014 |
frosbel: Chai, na so you take jump from one church to another? ![]() |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 10:59pm On Dec 25, 2014 |
honourhim: Lol, you should rather weep that you belong to babel, a conglomeration of over 40,000 divided denominations who all claim to be speaking with one Spirit ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by SeuIn(m): 1:29am On Dec 26, 2014 |
mctowel01: Hi could you please continue. How did these questions lead you to conclude that there is a 'God'? 1 Like |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by joe4christ(m): 9:53am On Dec 26, 2014 |
Truth be told, religion is for the weak minded who find comfort believing only them are saved while most people out there are condemned thereby boosting their ego. You get to a point in your christian life where you discover the Bible is not actually as infallible as we were taught. Then you begin to find difficulties in corrolating a loving God who is the author of both good and evil, and who sets the motion and master planned the situations faced by all ages, and still burns those found wanting in an everlasting fire and yet we are meant to believe he is a loving father. The God the bible depict seems a sadist to me than a loving father, an inperfect me would make a better father, i swear. There is God, oh yes there is, but not the gods depicted by most religion, the God that created everything cant be this heartless and wicked, and he seems not to be in the business of getting known... I'm more in tune with spirituality than religiousity, and this is the sure path to getting answeres to the questions in our lives that are begging for answeres... My people, liberate yourself from religious doctrines, they are meant to be a controlling tool by power driven few... 5 Likes |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 4:56pm On Dec 26, 2014 |
honourhim: Is it that this blind religious fanatics forget that there is a commandment as Thou Shall Not Judge? 3 Likes |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by Orikinla(m): 6:12pm On Dec 26, 2014 |
[size=18pt]David Balvin "A young man working in the army was constantly humiliated because he believed in God. One day the captain wanted to humiliate him before the troops. He called the young man and said: – Young man come here, take the key and go and park the Jeep in front. the young man replied: – I cannot drive! The captain said: – Well then ask for assistance of your God! Show us that He exist! The young man takes the key and walked to the vehicle and begins to pray…… …He parks the jeep at the place PERFECTLY well as the captain wanted. The young man came out of the jeep and saw them all crying. They all said together: – We want to serve your God! The young soldier was astonished, and asked what was going on? The CAPTAIN crying opened the hood of the jeep by showing the young man that the car had no engine. Then the boy said: See? This is the God I serve, THE GOD OF IMPOSSIBLE, the God who gives life to what does not exist. You may think there are things still impossible BUT WITH GOD EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. To the person reading this, I pray the Lord work A SUPER MIRACLE in your life today" In Jesus Name I Pray. ♥[/size] 1 Like |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by mctowel01: 7:04pm On Dec 26, 2014 |
honourhim:No, I wont. I created a new account for a lot of reasons. I don't want to have a link between this moniker and the other. |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by honourhim: 8:42pm On Dec 26, 2014 |
frosbel: Quite a shame that your understanding of what christianity means is- belonging to a denomination. People like you fail exam even when they enter the exam hall with the study material. Christianity is all about your relationship with Jesus not relationship with denomination. Learn to read and understand the bible or you shut up if you are not going to say things as stated. |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 8:50pm On Dec 26, 2014 |
honourhim: Your ignorance is astounding , tell me how one spirit can lead believers into 40,000 different theological positions , all fighting each other, condemning each other to hell, competing with each other and basically contradicting each other ? Is this not the madness and chaos that you are a part of ?. I am convinced that you cannot think beyond the level of indoctrination you have being put under ? Go figure Alexeo ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by mctowel01: 8:56pm On Dec 26, 2014 |
Seuin:What do you mean by how? if you can't see where I am going then maybe I don't know how else to explain again. Lets say Christianity was never truly my thing in the first place cos I ve had questions right from where I was a kid. Will you believe that despite all my judicious practice in catholic doctrines, I had never seen the communion as Jesus. The magic just doesn't work in my head cos it still bread and some alcoholic wine. Thats by the way. There are lots of reasons why I can't be an an atheist again. Have you ever wondered why the breathing/respiratory system is so unique that it cannot be replicated on a dead man even if the dead man is fed with oxygen. There is a lot of feedback that occurs from the brain to all parts of the body, have you ever wondered how the brain could be so intelligent? I ve seen manuscript for design of plc control systems and if one could design one for the human body, you will be amazed at. the amount of intelligence contained in this intricate body. I choose to believe that this cannot be a product of mere natural selection. What even set out the laws of natural selection? I know that atheists are good at pointing to the flaws and anomalies of life as a bait. But this only scores them high when debating with religious people whose beliefs support an omni omni god. I don't have a reason as to why there are anomalies and natural disasters, but we wilk agree that there are more pros than cons as to the benefits of these natural laws. the day I started examining morality.The firsg thing I told myself is that its basically because this world is much more than the physical realm thats why we are talking about morality. There is the abstract nature. Morality, ethics, feelings are part of it. This is what creates a comnection between you. and a fellow human being. There is a connection with our environment and surroundings. If I should accept that it was simply nature's randomness or natural selection that brought about the physical existence, then it must be a very smart one to include this abstrac aspect. When you dream, have you ever wondered what hands or legs you used there, how you ate? how you feel surroundings and all. You are doing all these things and its definitely not physical. I ve also heard and seen cases of spiritual interference. Tho I am yet to verify, I am keeping fingers crossed about them. With all these, it is very safe to conclude that something more supreme than we are is behind all these. |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by mctowel01: 9:04pm On Dec 26, 2014 |
joe4christ:Very very wonderful point. I ve always had it at the back of my mind also. But for its opposite side, there is just a slim line between atheism and nihilism. And nihilism entertains depression. But for the positive aspect, religion can be used as a tool in morally putting people in check if used rightly, but the way its practiced in nigeria is something to weep for. 2 Likes |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by honourhim: 9:13pm On Dec 26, 2014 |
bisous: Is it that you are so blind that you couldnt see that the OP was being judgmental too before passing your false judgment on me? |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by honourhim: 9:20pm On Dec 26, 2014 |
frosbel: You are part of the madness since you are one of the people who read the bible and teach it. Your self deceit tells you that you are not part of the madness, even when you are reading the same bible and interpreting it? Thats real madness. frosbel: Are you this daft? |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 9:22pm On Dec 26, 2014 |
honourhim:Lol silly you ! you are supposed to be a Christian (Christlike) have you forgotten that ? Obviously you aren't what you proclaim to be ,awaken your Christ Consciousness and you will see how faraway you are from home don't be fooled by the cheap salvation you are being offered as a panacea for your many undoings (got my weaknesses too) understand that the present day Christianity as it is being peddled isn't the straight narrow path that was preached but the wide path that leads to destruction ,else we won't have so many Christians and so many problems . May the scales fall from your eyes and may you see the light. Ashe! 1 Like |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by joe4christ(m): 9:22pm On Dec 26, 2014 |
mctowel01: I actually dont have problem with people being religious, my only problem is with those fanatics who are of the opinion that they are the only one serving the true God, thereby condemning other beliefs, it's absurd, even most sincere religious scholars will agree with me that many things dont just add up with religious doctrines and writings, no religion is perfect, they all are different human cultural means of describing and identifying with the divine (God). But for someone like me, i'm too consciouse and sensitive to be caged in any institutionalized setting called religion or ways of worship, i'm better off without it... I'm more conscious and sensitive without religion and it allows me to put large capacity of my brain to work instead of depending on some miracle... Life is just too sweat this way, i've tasted both, so i'm in better position to say which is better... 1 Like |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by honourhim: 9:38pm On Dec 26, 2014 |
bisous: Oh.... you have your own weakness chief judge? I thought you are perfect. |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 9:41pm On Dec 26, 2014 |
honourhim: Now I get it you are irredeemable of all I said that's all you could pick out? Now that's DAFT ! putting it lightly 1 Like |
Re: Baba God Says There Is Somebody That Will Be Overtaken - Pastor Adeboye by honourhim: 9:49pm On Dec 26, 2014 |
bisous: Ok thank you madam. |
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