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Appeal To All: Feminism by bukatyne(f): 10:55am On Dec 29, 2014
Compliments of the season cheesy

It has become a trend for every thread to be reduced from whatever the OP had in mind to Men versus Women or Feminists versus Anti-feminists etc.

This thread however is to address the Feminists versus Anti-feminists arguments.

I do not understand why every issue has its roots in feminism... from a husband is cheating to wife not clean to children been rude. Some posters open threads with 'I know feminists will support the woman's wrong deeds bla bla bla' and yet they still want objective posts on that thread. Some anti-feminists know that feminists are 'old bitter divorcees/singles/unhappily married women' and will still bother to reply feminist's posts. You have a different view? feminism! You expect accountability from men? Feminism etc.

Once you are known as a feminist, it does not matter what you post; it is feminism talking. Let an anti-feminist cheat and a feminist cheat; the feminist sure did so because she is one; the anti-feminist clearly did not do it because she is anti undecided

I am anti-gay and anti other things. I see no sense in commenting my stance about them on every thread or opening threads about them. As a Christian, my Bible says they are condemned to hell yet I do not go about ranting about it on every thread.

You know feminists' marriages never last? Why drink panadol for someone else's headache?

What I find extremely amusing is 'I believe men and women are different but equal; equal social, political and whatever rights for women yet I am not a feminist' Try I believe Jesus died for our sins but I am not a Christian undecided. Another funny matter is that fact that 'all feminists should behave the same way'. Deeper life members have a uniform they wear, do not wear earrings, make up etc; Mountain of Fire members do not have a uniform, wear anything as far as it is decent, do not make up; RCCG members make up, wear earrings, trousers etc. (depending on personal belief and parish); Christ Embassy do not cover their hair etc. yet nobody has come up to say Deeper lifers or MFM members or RCCG members are not true Christians. Some Christians see nothing wrong in alcohol as long as one is not drunk (I think alcohol is wrong) etc. Yorubas do not have a uniform culture or language yet all feminists must be the same or they are confused undecided

Anybody who does not know the definition of feminism will do well of looking it up in a dictionary. Those who know and see people practicing something else should tackle those people and not feminism.

Thanks and have a splendid day

Yours truly,
Bukatyne cheesy

Please no bashing or nonsense posts...

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Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by SAMBARRY: 10:57am On Dec 29, 2014
Let me come back from ikoyi then I will reply grin grin




eyin pop corn sellers where una dey grin
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by Nobody: 11:43am On Dec 29, 2014
Are you preaching? grin
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by bukatyne(f): 11:47am On Dec 29, 2014
Aprime:
Are you preaching? grin

Compliments and welcome to the thread cheesy

Yes o grin
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by thorpido(m): 11:49am On Dec 29, 2014
I think it's just a question of sifting the wheat from the chaff.

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Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by bukatyne(f): 11:58am On Dec 29, 2014
thorpido:
I think it's just a question of sifting the wheat from the chaff.

Compliments and welcome to the thread cheesy

I agree
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by bukatyne(f): 11:59am On Dec 29, 2014
SAMBARRY:
Let me come back from ikoyi then I will reply grin grin




eyin pop corn sellers where una dey grin

Compliments and welcome to the thread cheesy

Goodluck with getting popcorn @ Ikoyi
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by edwife(f): 12:24pm On Dec 29, 2014
Agreed but that's goes both way too,i just think family section was meant to educate,advice and support every issues concerning marriage,kids,family etc...but recently it has become very childish....romance section is no longer conducive for them,so many kids around here... undecided undecided

Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion.I also noticed anytime a lady speaks her mind which goes against a group of ladies's posts,she is seen as an enemy or she is seeking for men to cheer her up?like seriously?We can't think the same can we?We all have different backgrounds.Same applies to the men,when a guy is on the ladies's side.

Family section isn't fun anymore,too many bias arguments and gang up.....SMH
I avoid commenting in most of the threads these days,no point really....

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Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by crackhaus: 12:31pm On Dec 29, 2014
Bukatyne before we go any further, are you a true feminist?
What ideologies of feminism (according to the categorized groups) do you support?

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Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by bukatyne(f): 12:34pm On Dec 29, 2014
edwife:
Agreed but that's goes both way too,i just think family section was meant to educate,advice and support every issues concerning marriage, kids, family etc...but recently it has become very childish....romance section is no longer conducive for them, so many kids around here... undecided undecided

everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, and i also noticed anytime a lady speaks her mind which goes against a group of ladies posts, she is seen as an enemy or she is seeking for men to cheer her up? like seriously? We can't think the same can we? We all have different backgrounds. Same applies to the men, when a guy is on the ladies's side.

Family section isn't fun anymore, too many bias arguments and gang up.....SMH
I avoid commenting in most of the threads these days, no point really....

Compliments and welcome to the thread cheesy

@bold: I am yet to see a feminist say A, B, C commented XYZ way because she is an anti-feminist if she does not take a jab at feminists subtly or otherwise

I have spoken against the mainstream and I have never been said to support the men; when a lady comments against the flow WITHOUT taking a jab at other ladies or talking like she is on a higher moral ground, she will be avoided or quoted and yabbed on her own.

A thing or two can still be learnt or fun gotten from the whole rubble

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Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by bukatyne(f): 12:35pm On Dec 29, 2014
crackhaus:
Bukatyne before we go any further, are you a true feminist?
What ideologies of feminism (according to the categorized groups) do you support?

Compliments and welcome to the thread cheesy

I thought I said no nonsense post? undecided

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Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by Fkforyou(m): 12:37pm On Dec 29, 2014
Interesting.........
But what is the central theme of this this thread? cos I dont think it has any.
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by bukatyne(f): 12:39pm On Dec 29, 2014
Fkforyou:
Interesting.........
But what is the central theme of this this thread? cos I dont think it has any.

Compliments and welcome to the thread cheesy

Reread slowly, you will get it cheesy

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Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by krystal101(f): 12:39pm On Dec 29, 2014
Bukatyne God bless you real good

Edwife you took the words right outta my mouth, I just read & hardly comment. Children everywhere now in family section
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by SAMBARRY: 12:40pm On Dec 29, 2014
bukatyne:


Compliments and welcome to the thread cheesy

Goodluck with getting popcorn @ Ikoyi
ok so im back my darling grin





so to the matter ediwife has said it all . nothing more to say smiley
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by bukatyne(f): 12:42pm On Dec 29, 2014
krystal101:
Bukatyne God bless you real good

Edwife you took the words right outta my mouth, I just read & hardly comment. Children everywhere now in family section

Compliments and welcome to the thread cheesy

God bless you too

You can still drop your comments and un-follow the thread. I do that a lot nowadays cheesy
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by Fkforyou(m): 12:47pm On Dec 29, 2014
edwife:
Agreed but that's goes both way too,i just think family section was meant to educate,advice and support every issues concerning marriage,kids,family etc...but recently it has become very childish....romance section is no longer conducive for them,so many kids around here... undecided undecided

Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion.I also noticed anytime a lady speaks her mind which goes against a group of ladies's posts,she is seen as an enemy or she is seeking for men to cheer her up?like seriously?We can't think the same can we?We all have different backgrounds.Same applies to the men,when a guy is on the ladies's side.

Family section isn't fun anymore,too many bias arguments and gang up.....SMH
I avoid commenting in most of the threads these days,no point really....
this is it....you just spoke my mind.
The truth is some people are actually here to learn,because this section is supposed to be comprised of individuals with a great deal of experience and wisdom.
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by bukatyne(f): 12:49pm On Dec 29, 2014
Fkforyou:

this is it....you just spoke my mind.
The truth is some people are actually here to learn,because this section is supposed to be comprised of individuals with a great deal of experience and wisdom.

Finally you have gotten the gist of the matter

*Singing in Celion Dion's voice* To God be the Glory....
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by edwife(f): 12:51pm On Dec 29, 2014
bukatyne:


Compliments and welcome to the thread cheesy

@bold: I am yet to see a feminist say A, B, C commented XYZ way because she is an anti-feminist if she does not take a jab at feminists subtly or otherwise

I have spoken against the mainstream and I have never been said to support the men; when a lady comments against the flow WITHOUT taking a jab at other ladies or talking like she is on a higher moral ground, she will be avoided or quoted and yabbed on her own.

A thing or two can still be learnt or fun gotten from the whole rubble

I dont think it is always the case,nevertheless RESPECT is paramount .....

Compliments of the season....
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by crackhaus: 12:54pm On Dec 29, 2014
edwife:
Agreed but that's goes both way too,i just think family section was meant to educate,advice and support every issues concerning marriage,kids,family etc...but recently it has become very childish....romance section is no longer conducive for them,so many kids around here... undecided undecided
And feminism has nothing to do with marriage, kids, and family?


Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. I also noticed anytime a lady speaks her mind which goes against a group of ladies's posts,she is seen as an enemy or she is seeking for men to cheer her up?like seriously?We can't think the same can we?We all have different backgrounds. Same applies to the men,when a guy is on the ladies's side.
I like how you dealt with both sides of the divide here, at least I expect you to not be biased in your subsequent posts after this.

@bold text - regarding that cliche quote you made about opinions, the truth is:
"No one is entitled to their own opinion, people are only entitled to their informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." - Harlan Ellison

Just as in the real world, this is also an interactive forum - always expect people to disagree and argue against opinions, there's absolutely nothing wrong in that.


Family section isn't fun anymore,too many bias arguments and gang up.....SMH
I avoid commenting in most of the threads these days,no point really....
Lol.. this is not an issue.
All you have to do is drop your objective advice/opinion/comment as you would follow/abide yourself, if you were to be in such situations.

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Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by crackhaus: 1:00pm On Dec 29, 2014
bukatyne:


Compliments and welcome to the thread cheesy

I thought I said no nonsense post? undecided
Is it nonsense because you don't like how the question exposes you for the pseudo-feminist that you are?

Answer the questions and convince your readers how much of a feminist you really are...simple!


I already know you don't like criticism, neither are you built to take it in good stride - keep running from the questions about feminism, which coincidentally is what you created the thread to discuss...or am I missing something here?

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Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by Fkforyou(m): 1:00pm On Dec 29, 2014
bukatyne:


Finally you have gotten the gist of the matter

*Singing in Celion Dion's voice* To God be the Glory....
So this is the central theme?.....alright then.
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by Nobody: 1:05pm On Dec 29, 2014
bukatyne: 'I believe men and women are different but equal; equal social, political and whatever rights for women yet I am not a feminist'

I have said this over and over again and I still stand by it.
Feminism has no clear definition, it's a subjective word. The above totally captures my own PERSONAL stance. However, I also believe that in a man and wife relationship, hubby is the HEAD! Feminism does not entirely agree with that point. Feminism does not even like to embrace the differences that cut across both genders, irrespective of how glaring it is. Feminism does not believe in gender roles, I absolutely do! So, dear bukatyne, I'll be a bastard to the cause if I say I am a feminist. I am not a feminist but the man that will cheat me cos he has a diick is yet to be born! cool

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Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by bukatyne(f): 1:06pm On Dec 29, 2014
crackhaus:

Is it nonsense because you don't like how the question exposes you for the pseudo-feminist that you are?

Answer the questions and convince your readers how much of a feminist you really are...simple!


I already know you don't like criticism, neither are you built to take it in good stride - keep running from the questions about feminism, which coincidentally is what you created the thread to discuss...or am I missing something here?

crackhaus,

I would kindly request you stay off the thread

Whatever you think I am or I am not does not matter in the grand scheme of things

You do not like the thread or see the use, respect yourself and stay away

Thanks

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Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by bukatyne(f): 1:10pm On Dec 29, 2014
alutacontinua:


I have said this over and over again and I still stand by it.
Feminism has no clear definition, it's a subjective word. The above totally captures my own PERSONAL stance. However, I also believe that in a man and wife relationship, hubby is the HEAD! Feminism does not entirely agree with that point. Feminism does not even like to embrace the differences that cut across both genders, irrespective of how glaring it is. Feminism does not believe in gender roles, I absolutely do! So, dear bukatyne, I'll be a bastard to the cause if I say I am a feminist. I am not a feminist but the man that will cheat me cos he has a diick is yet to be born! cool

Compliments and welcome to the thread cheesy

The last I remembered, feminism has a concrete definition and that definition does not include marriage, look it up in the net. As to feminism agreeing or not with a husband being the head in a martial relationship, I would like to see where a definition stated so.

@bastard to the cause: whatever rocks our boat

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Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by bukatyne(f): 1:11pm On Dec 29, 2014
Fkforyou:

So this is the central theme?.....alright then.

I believe you must have understood the central theme before agreeing with edwife's post

If it is not so, then my bad cheesy
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by edwife(f): 1:16pm On Dec 29, 2014
[quote author=crackhaus post=29303488]

And feminism has nothing to do with marriage, kids, and family?

i won't lie ,i know little or nothing about this group ....so i can't give you a specific answer to that question.


I like how you dealt with both sides of the divide here, at least I expect you to not be biased in your subsequent posts after this.
your opinion,thanks anyway...


@bold text - regarding that cliche quote you made about opinions, the truth is:
"No one is entitled to their own opinion, people are only entitled to their informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." - Harlan Ellison

Just as in the real world, this is also an interactive forum - always expect people to disagree and argue against opinions, there's absolutely nothing wrong in that.

Agreed but not when it's an unhealthy argument.We can argue without being emotional,personal and mean to each other...I actually learn a lot when people have objective and educative arguments without throwing blows.

Lol.. this is not an issue.
All you have to do is drop your objective advice/opinion/comment as you would follow/abide yourself, if you were to be in such situations.

I always do that ,but sometimes i can't be bothered. smiley

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Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by Nobody: 1:19pm On Dec 29, 2014
It is Ile, Cococandy and EfemenaXY that cause all these things oh.
These women can write big big English and long ones self for Africa. They will intimidate these men who will go and cram dictionary too and prepare for the next thread to show off their newly learned language so to sparj argument they will shout " feminisim " Cococandy and EfemenaXY will start writing and writing and the boys too will start showing off what they have learned.

If only these women will be quiet and enter kitchen like me the word feminisim too will find rest in this section

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Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by AfricanApple(f): 1:38pm On Dec 29, 2014
@bukatyne, the most annoying part is when make any post that is anti-male you are labeled a feminist even when you are not one.
anytime they here feminism, their eyes will just pop out, why na undecided
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by crackhaus: 1:40pm On Dec 29, 2014
bukatyne:


crackhaus,

I would kindly request you stay off the thread

Whatever you think I am or I am not does not matter in the grand scheme of things

You do not like the thread or see the use, respect yourself and stay away

Thanks
Can everyone see how Bukatyne keeps dodging simple questions?

I do not think you are anything, you already helped me & everyone else avoid the pain of thinking when you declared yourself a feminist?
And for this reason, I keep asking you to tell me about the waves of feminism, and which of their ideologies you support.

I have respected you so far and have not used any words you would term 'insulting'.
You on the other hand keeps getting worked up over simple questions that give even simpler answers (same attitude you displayed on that your thread in the religion section.)
You're also the one who used the first insulting word here when you referred to my post as nonsense which I conveniently ignored, because it doesn't take long before you start crying wolf and playing victim when someone courteously returns an insult in response to yours.

It seem you have anger issues, or you just don't like being disagreed with... too bad.

If you want me off the thread, put a damn padlock or password over it and lock me out as it is now your exclusive property. grin


Now tell us what kind of feminist you are...

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Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by bukatyne(f): 1:47pm On Dec 29, 2014
AfricanApple:
@bukatyne, the most annoying part is when make any post that is anti-male you are labeled a feminist even when you are not one.
anytime they here feminism, their eyes will just pop out, why na undecided

Exactly what the thread is about

You do not like feminism, avoid them and their threads/posts
Re: Appeal To All: Feminism by bukatyne(f): 1:50pm On Dec 29, 2014
edwife:


I dont think it is always the case, nevertheless RESPECT is paramount .....

Compliments of the season....

True, respect for each other's view is paramount

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