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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by TerryCarr(m): 12:32am On Feb 02, 2015
Fulaman198:
Typical Tuaregs in Nigeria, as dark as Charcoal:

Tuareg from Algeria where they came from


Tuaregs are mixed which is way they look different from place to place
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 12:34am On Feb 02, 2015
TerryCarr:

Tuareg from Algeria where they came from


Tuaregs are mixed which is way they look different from place to place


Dude I see Tuaregs every day not the stuff you keep posting.

I've posted at least 2 pictures of Tuaregs already

what about these:

[img]http://www.alsur.fr/assets/drgalleries/217/thumb_alcd153.jpg[/img]

And no Tuaregs aren't originally from Algeria. Tuaregs are originally from mainly places in West Africa. The West like I said earlier has brainwashed a lot of people. That Algerian "Tuareg" you posted is the mixed one. He looks more mixed with European than actual Tuareg.
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 12:35am On Feb 02, 2015
Or What about these Algerian Tuaregs:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uiR4ZSrP9A


Do you see how dark the women in the video are?

The Sahara people are extremely dark because of the sun hitting their skin, not these so-called Berbers who are mixed with Greek, Turk and Roman they are NOT the original Berbers. No way could a light complexioned person survive in that sun.
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by TerryCarr(m): 12:38am On Feb 02, 2015
Fulaman198:


Dude I see Tuaregs every day not the stuff you keep posting.

I've posted at least 2 pictures of Tuaregs already

what about these:

[img]http://www.alsur.fr/assets/drgalleries/217/thumb_alcd153.jpg[/img]

And no Tuaregs aren't originally from Algeria. Tuaregs are originally from mainly places in West Africa. The West like I said earlier has brainwashed a lot of people. That Algerian "Tuareg" you posted is the mixed one. He looks more mixed with European than actual Tuareg.
Berbers come from north Africa that's kinda fact before the berber moved in to the deserted it was mostly populated be nilo-saharn groups
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 12:39am On Feb 02, 2015
TerryCarr:

Berbers come from north Africa that's kinda fact before the berber moved in to the deserted it was mostly populated be nilo-saharn groups

It's well-known that Berbers come from North Africa (like many groups in West Africa). However, you have a bit of a white-washed mentality and believe most of what the West tells you and accept it as fact.

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by TerryCarr(m): 12:39am On Feb 02, 2015
Fulaman198:
Or What about these Algerian Tuaregs:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uiR4ZSrP9A


Do you see how dark the women in the video are?

The Sahara people are extremely dark because of the sun hitting their skin, not these so-called Berbers who are mixed with Greek, Turk and Roman they are NOT the original Berbers. No way could a light complexioned person survive in that sun.
that or the nilo Saharan genes
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 12:41am On Feb 02, 2015
Also btw, those Touaregs I posted holding the Oud, are in Algeria. A lot of Touaregs in Algeria are VERY dark like the ones i posted earlier with the Algerian president visiting them. Anyone who lives in the Sahelian/Saharan region sees Tuaregs on a daily basis. Especially the 1 million or so that live in Nigeria (may even be more than that, and just me low-balling).

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 12:42am On Feb 02, 2015
TerryCarr:

that or the nilo Saharan genes

Nah man that's bullcrap, there are no Nilo-Saharan genes, again you are just acting like a brainwashed guy not willing to accept the facts. The fact is, anyone who is of light complexion and obviously having white blood claiming to be Berber in North Africa is obviously of Roman, Greek or Turkish blood.
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 12:45am On Feb 02, 2015
As aforementioned, I'm actually happy we live in the tech age, because knowing the Western world and how they claim people and always want to be in the middle of everything, they would have said Fulanis, Songhai/Sonrai, Beri-beri, Gabero, Tebu/Toubou are all white beccause we are all Saharan/Sahel peoples. 1000 years from now without tech, many people would believe them even blacks which is a shame.
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by TerryCarr(m): 12:46am On Feb 02, 2015
Fulaman198:


Nah man that's bullcrap, there are no Nilo-Saharan genes, again you are just acting like a brainwashed guy not willing to accept the facts. The fact is, anyone who is of light complexion and obviously having white blood claiming to be Berber in North Africa is obviously of Roman, Greek or Turkish blood.
they are in Algeria too. and we all no they are known for being dark
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Lenguas_nilo-saharianas.PNG[/img]
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 12:51am On Feb 02, 2015
TerryCarr:

they are in Algeria too. and we all no they are known for being dark
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Lenguas_nilo-saharianas.PNG[/img]

The only group that speaks a Nilo-Saharan language as shown by your map in Algeria, Mali, Niger and Nigeria are the Songhai/Sonrai/Zarma/Dendi (they go by all those names) however, they speak slightly different variations of the Songhai language. Some speaking Sonrai Korai Chinni, others speaking a language mutually intelligble with the one spoken in Gao, and others speaking Zarma. Gabero for example is spoken in Sudan, it's a Songhai language close to Gao dialect spoken in Mali. However, the Gabero people are of Fulani origin that no longer speak the Fulani language.

Your map proves nothing. As aforementioned, anyone claiming Berber who looks "white" are typically those with a VERY heavy mix of Greek, Turk or Roman DNA, this is well known fact. Most of those so-called Berbers don't even live a Berber lifestyle, they live more of a sedentary European lifestyle, claiming a culture that isn't their own.
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 12:55am On Feb 02, 2015
This is an example of the Nilo-Saharan language spoken amongst the Songhai:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvdT8lYUwCc
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 12:58am On Feb 02, 2015
No offence to white people, but they do claim everything.


Look at Rastafarianism, most of them are black Jamaicans, but a lot of whites in America are now involved in it. I've even seen white dudes with dreadlocks smiley

Some of them even practise African cultures more so than a lot of these white-washed Africans, like I've seen some white people in the past who knew more about Yoruba Gods than I do (yeah I know I'm not Yoruba, but still I'm a Nigerian, I should at least know more than them about the Yoruba Gods). They seem to like to claim other cultures foreign to their own, and eventually own it and say it's their own. Look at Rap music, look at Pop music, Britney Spears music would have been considered "Black music" 20 years ago, today it's not.

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by TerryCarr(m): 1:01am On Feb 02, 2015
Fulaman198:


The only group that speaks a Nilo-Saharan language as shown by your map in Algeria, Mali, Niger and Nigeria are the Songhai/Sonrai/Zarma/Dendi (they go by all those names) however, they speak slightly different variations of the Songhai language. Some speaking Sonrai Korai Chinni, others speaking a language mutually intelligble with the one spoken in Gao, and others speaking Zarma. Gabero for example is spoken in Sudan, it's a Songhai language close to Gao dialect spoken in Mali. However, the Gabero people are of Fulani origin that no longer speak the Fulani language.

Your map proves nothing. As aforementioned, anyone claiming Berber who looks "white" are typically those with a VERY heavy mix of Greek, Turk or Roman DNA, this is well known fact. Most of those so-called Berbers don't even live a Berber lifestyle, they live more of a sedentary European lifestyle, claiming a culture that isn't their own.

"The Sahara today is largely populated by speakers of Afroasiatic languages, Berber and Arabic, with some Nilo-Saharan languages (Teda-Daza and Zaghawa) in the region of Northern Chad, and Songhay cluster languages scattered across Mali and Niger. However, it is clear that this situation is recent; Berber-speaking Tuareg moved into the Central Sahara ∼1500 y ago and the spread of the Hassaniya Moors into Mauritania probably dates from the 15th Century. Before this time, the central and southern Sahara are thought to have been populated by Nilo-Saharan speakers. The Nilo-Saharan language phylum is both widespread and strongly internally divided, suggesting considerable antiquity. Its greatest diversity is in the east, where a large number of small branches are found, suggesting the original locus of expansion. Although fragmented into enclave populations today, the presence and pattern of relic populations in the northern desert points strongly to a much wider distribution in the past, covering the region from the Ethio-Sudan borderland to Mauritania and southwest Morocco."



"Sahara palaeohydrology overlaid with the spatial distribution of Ounanian and barbed bone points and Nilo-Saharan languages. The languages marked as “other” are too small to be depicted as separate colors; they are Nyimang, Temein, Hill Nubian, Daju, Berta, and Gumuz. Note the similarity between the distribution of barbed bone points and the distribution of species that require deep water"

"It has long been suggested that Nilo-Saharan languages might correlate with barbed bone points, the so-called “Aqualithic”"


http://www.pnas.org/content/108/2/458.full#sec-2

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 1:06am On Feb 02, 2015
TerryCarr:


"The Sahara today is largely populated by speakers of Afroasiatic languages, Berber and Arabic, with some Nilo-Saharan languages (Teda-Daza and Zaghawa) in the region of Northern Chad, and Songhay cluster languages scattered across Mali and Niger. However, it is clear that this situation is recent; Berber-speaking Tuareg moved into the Central Sahara ∼1500 y ago and the spread of the Hassaniya Moors into Mauritania probably dates from the 15th Century. Before this time, the central and southern Sahara are thought to have been populated by Nilo-Saharan speakers. The Nilo-Saharan language phylum is both widespread and strongly internally divided, suggesting considerable antiquity. Its greatest diversity is in the east, where a large number of small branches are found, suggesting the original locus of expansion. Although fragmented into enclave populations today, the presence and pattern of relic populations in the northern desert points strongly to a much wider distribution in the past, covering the region from the Ethio-Sudan borderland to Mauritania and southwest Morocco."





"It has long been suggested that Nilo-Saharan languages might correlate with barbed bone points, the so-called “Aqualithic”"


http://www.pnas.org/content/108/2/458.full#sec-2

As aforementioned, your argument holds little to no water, because Nilo-Saharan influence like your posted information says is strongest in the East, not the West.

In West Africa, things are quite different, and those Tuaregs do not have Songhai influence. All of Africa prior to Europeans coming were all dark-skinned (call them black if you want to though some may not like it, in the West they would be considered black), that's just fact. Greeks, Romans and Turks are not Africans, Africans have constantly been forced to acknowledge others as Africans. Look at South Africa, where even the Afrikaaners (aka the Dutch) labelled themselves as African by calling their language "Afrikaans" that's a huge insult to black people.

However, many black people are very submissive and will bow down to what whites tell them as if white people are their Gods. They believe that everything a white person tells them is fact and absolute, without even questioning it. In fact, most black people would rather believe Europeans/whites than another black person, which tells me a lot of black people are sick in the brain.
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by TerryCarr(m): 1:36am On Feb 02, 2015
Fulaman198:
No offence to white people, but they do claim everything.
so do blacks (americans).
https://www.nairaland.com/1212037/africans-discovered-america-thousands-years

unlike white people who do it out of arrogance blacks do it out of inferiority complex.

Look at Rastafarianism, most of them are black Jamaicans, but a lot of whites in America are now involved in it. I've even seen white dudes with dreadlocks smiley
Rastafarianism is dumb IMO but anyway dread are not a black invention Jamaicans just made it popular. there were other cultures doing it too


besides most whites that where dreads come of as hippy tree huggers anyway
[img]http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/ce/a5/colorful,dreadlocks,girl,color,accessories,favourite,hair-cea5f76f4ed0c6bec9dddf0089d1ec33_h.jpg[/img]


"Some of them even practise African cultures more so than a lot of these white-washed Africans,"
mostly in Latin America where culture & race kinda blurs to a degree

like I've seen some white people in the past who knew more about Yoruba Gods than I do (yeah I know I'm not Yoruba, but still I'm a Nigerian, I should at least know more than them about the Yoruba Gods).
thats a damn shame grin

They seem to like to claim other cultures foreign to their own, and eventually own it and say it's their own. Look at Rap music, look at Pop music, Britney Spears music would have been considered "Black music" 20 years ago, today it's not.
this, it is very true that when whites do "black" music they get a lot more exposer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYEDA3JcQqw

i can go on a very long rant about this but it's so common that it's right in our faces, but I'll say this whites have the freedom to have a lot more diversity with music while blacks are stuck with "black" music but even then most of the black music you do hear is rap and R&B not other kinds of black music like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUnwjoqzgG0

or mainstream music not as popular like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEddixS-UoU

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by kobonaire(m): 2:18am On Feb 02, 2015
Fulaman198:
Because white people seem to study Fulani people like crazy and yet, they even try to claim us and call us Caucasian all the time. I have never seen so many Discovery channel, PBS and Nat Geo documentaries about any other group except my own Fulani people, and within the Fulani ethnic group, they seem to study the Wodaabe Fulani the most.
Really? When have Americans ever referred to the Fulani people as Caucasian?? I think their interest in fulani people is due to their nomadic lifestyle which they have preserved for many generations, otherwise i don't think anyone really gives a flying f'k about these impoverished folks - no hard feelings.

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by tpiah01: 4:09am On Feb 02, 2015
Fulaman198:
Typical Tuaregs in Nigeria, as dark as Charcoal:


They look Kanuri.
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 4:55am On Feb 02, 2015
kobonaire:
Really? When have Americans ever referred to the Fulani people as Caucasian?? I think their interest in fulani people is due to their nomadic lifestyle which they have preserved for many generations, otherwise i don't think anyone really gives a flying f'k about these impoverished folks - no hard feelings.

You sound jealous. Trust me we don't like them studying us either. However, if you think the only reason they over study us is because of nomadism then you don't have a clue. They even talk about our Gerewol ceremony and all that crap.

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 4:56am On Feb 02, 2015
tpiah01:


They look Kanuri.

Well I don't necessarily agree, but it doesn't change the fact that they are Tuaregs cheesy
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by kobonaire(m): 5:01am On Feb 02, 2015
Fulaman198:


You sound jealous. Trust me we don't like them studying us either. However, if you think the only reason they over study us is because of nomadism then you don't have a clue. They even talk about our Gerewol ceremony and all that crap.
Jealous of your broke-áss lifestyle of breathing and walking on cow dung 24x7??
No Sir, I am quite content with living the life of the 21st century. I do enjoy watching how you live that nomadic life on TV though. It is intriguing, but no thanks, I love my modern conveniences wink
About the Gerrwol ceremony - you should write to the Discovery channel ...

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 5:05am On Feb 02, 2015
kobonaire:

Jealous of your broke-áss lifestyle of breathing and walking on cow dung 24x7??
No Sir, I am quite content with living the life of the 21st century. I do enjoy watching how you live that nomadic life on TV though. It is intriguing, but no thanks, I love my modern conveniences wink
About the Gerrwol ceremony - you should write to the Discovery channel ...


Nah man you really are coming off as quite angry and jealous. Fulanis are one of the richest ethnic groups in West Africa as we have a grand presence in every country in West Africa and have had the most military success in all of West Africa. A simple Google Search will affirm what I have been saying all along.

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 5:34am On Feb 02, 2015
KidStranglehold:


Indeed. But we have to take into account that the Red Sea water levels were significantly lower compared to today. Enabling a those migrates to cross.


Your point is noted, and a has a high plausibility.

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by kobonaire(m): 6:09am On Feb 02, 2015
Fulaman198:
Nah man you really are coming off as quite angry and jealous. Fulanis are one of the richest ethnic groups in West Africa as we have a grand presence in every country in West Africa and have had the most military success in all of West Africa. A simple Google Search will affirm what I have been saying all along.
Ha ha .... I don't blame you, you have inhaled so much cow-dung in your pastoral nomadic lifestyle that it has completely made you bonkers and delusional about your lifestyle. If you want to wake up in the morning and stare at cow testicles all your life and believe that you have a "grand presence" then that is your prerogative. For me, no thanks, I love my 21st century life, I will leave you to embellish in your nomadic lifestyle grin grin

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 6:19am On Feb 02, 2015
kobonaire:
Ha ha .... I don't blame you, you have inhaled so much cow-dung in your pastoral nomadic lifestyle that it has completely made you bonkers and delusional about your lifestyle. If you want to wake up in the morning and stare at cow testicles all your life and believe that you have a "grand presence" then that is your prerogative. For me, no thanks, I love my 21st century life, I will leave you to embellish in your nomadic lifestyle grin grin


Your anger is astonishing and I'm enjoying every bit of it tbh. Show me where that Fulani touched you to make you cry.

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by kobonaire(m): 6:20am On Feb 02, 2015
Fulaman198:
Your anger is astonishing and I'm enjoying every bit of it tbh. Show me where that Fulani touched you to make you cry.
Ha ha - keep gagging your pet cow's testicles .... grin grin grin
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 6:51am On Feb 02, 2015
kobonaire:
Ha ha - keep gagging your pet cow's testicles .... grin grin grin

Your tears of anger are quite mouth-watering and tasty

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 6:54am On Feb 02, 2015
Fulaman, you need to get married and experience consensual sexxxx. cheesy

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 9:10am On Feb 02, 2015
Ajuran:
Fulaman, you need to get married and experience consensual sexxxx. cheesy

I agree with you bro, what happened to you, you are so mellow now?
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 10:12am On Feb 02, 2015
Fulaman198:


I agree with you bro, what happened to you, you are so mellow now?


constant boom boom, at all hours of the day, has incapacitated me to a cruel world of exhaustion. The spirit is willing but the body is oooh so tired

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 10:54am On Feb 02, 2015
Fulaman198:


I agree with you bro, what happened to you, you are so mellow now?


I have been delivering unrelentless Jihad to the kitten

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by gallivant: 1:04pm On Feb 02, 2015
Fulaman198:


I agree with you bro, what happened to you, you are so mellow now?

A little dose of reality did him good. The BDF(bantu defence force)is still making regular patrols round here. Dude has been reduced to talking about vajayjay! cool

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