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Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by Begino1: 9:12pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
"The time has come for us to be honest with ourselves and indeed each other," Kenyatta said. "The radicalisation that breeds terrorism is not conducted in the bush at night. It occurs in the full glare of day in homes, in madrasas and in mosques with rogue imams. QUOTED FROM KENYAN PRESIDENT'S SPEECH AFTER THE MASSACRE BY ALSHABAB TERRORISTS. 1 Like |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by EcoTerror: 9:16pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
CR77:Are you a christian or Muslim with this your comment. |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by EcoTerror: 9:21pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Ifeann please come and explain to Rilwayne001 and ibnsultan where in the koran that killing unbelivers is permitted. |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by mulattoclaro(m): 9:22pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
emog17:the world would be a better place if there were no muslims. Islam is a cancer that has to be badly removed for the world to have peace. The Koran justifies the killing, raping and maiming of non muslims. If there's another synonym for vampires and blood-suckers then muslims are the exact word. 1 Like |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by Janetozi(f): 9:27pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Muslims!!! Do u ppl really derive peace from shedding innocent blood may the spirit of Allah be cast out of every Muslims IJN, amen. |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by betty202020(m): 9:32pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
IbnSultaan:if islam is not the problem, the explain why islamic worshipers where spared while their christain counterparts were killed. shame to islam. |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by Begino1: 9:34pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Hundreds attend anti-Islam rallies across Australia |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by Azo(m): 9:35pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
emmasege: Haba u guys shld stop all these lies now. The western superpower are feeding everyone lies and you keep adding tourselves to those that believe the lies. Have tou seen the front page of the Economist 2015 edition? Try check it out and stop vilifying Islam. Islam is nothing but a religion of peace. |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by eronxdabishop(m): 9:35pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
This world would have been a better place without islam.Islam is haram.Quote me and go to hell |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by Ovacoma: 9:42pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
'moderate or peaceful' Muslims will say these are not real Muslims. Please, who then are the real Muslims? as these people including boko harm, supporter of APC, etc claim they are the ones following prophet Muhammad. Or was Muhammad not a real Muslim also? If Muhammad never killed, just like Jesus never hurt any man, then he was a real Muslim. But if he killed during his life for any reason, he is just in d same category with osama bin laden, bokos, etc. Or they are together not Muslims. 1 Like
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Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by adeoladeola(f): 9:43pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
blaqgold: A 'blaq Goat' indeed. |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by CR77(f): 9:47pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
We all serve one God. EcoTerror: |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by emog17(m): 9:50pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
mulattoclaro:very correct 1 Like |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by bigiyaro(m): 9:52pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
baby124:these guys r killing people because of pusi in heaven,dat is wat islam can do to fully grown man,a mature man can be brainwashed in such a way dat,he can kill himself because he wants to f.uck a virgin.it can happen to anyone weda african or not,its a muslim tin. |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by Icudkill: 9:52pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
haftob: Adolf catholic!! I never knew dat |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by donodion(m): 9:53pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
To stop terrorism,first nab the teachers of the murderous doctrine and ideology's, then suffocate evey means to financial freedom. Terrorists are satanists,no matter their reasons or demand . |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by otunba9ja: 9:54pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Ymodulus: BUT, HOW COME EVERY TERRORIST ATTACK ALL OVER THE WORLD IS LINKED TO A MUSLIM PERSON OR GROUP ....... |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by Icudkill: 9:55pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
haftob: Mvdafvcka!! |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by dollyptosh(m): 10:04pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
MuhdG:If Piers Morgan of CNN knows that those terrorists are not practicing the teachings of Islam, to an extent that he wrote an article on it. Then I wonder why it is so difficult for peeps here to understand.. Some people have just refused to be rational. |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by crisycent: 10:18pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Islam is indeed a religion of peace. |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by Kentrasso(f): 10:21pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: But you do understand that people interpret what you just quoted in very different ways. Even as I read this I see many scenarios. If a muslim feels like he deserves a particular position or fortune, that verse says he can kill whoever stands in his way. If someone takes a land that belongs to a muslim. The muslim has a right to remove his hindrance. It's still Islam. One and same |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by stephnie44(f): 10:22pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Firmjudge:d person he av die...m |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by martineverest(m): 10:31pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Dats too harsh na.....condemning ones religion is not propa. mulattoclaro: |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by Rilwayne001: 10:31pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Kentrasso: Can you point out in that verse what gave you the interpretation above? Surah Al-Hajj, Verse 39-40 PERMISSION [to fight] is given to those against whom [size=15] war is being wrongfully waged [/size] and, verily,God has indeed the power to succour them -: those who have been driven from their homelands against all right [size=15pt] for no other reason than their saying. “Our Sustainer is God!” [/size] For, if God had not enabled people to defend themselves against one another, all] monasteries and churches and synagogues and mosques - in [all of] which Gods name is abundantly extolled - would surely havebeen destroyed [ere now]. And God will most certainly succour him who succours His cause: for, verily, God is most powerful, almighty, 2 Likes |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by piagetskinner(m): 10:48pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Wicked bastards...#may God send his full wrath upon them if they don't repent |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by Herapal(m): 10:59pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
kodded: |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by winner01(m): 11:07pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
IbnSultaan:maybe C.A.N and oritshejafor are responsible ds tym |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by Obiwannn: 11:13pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: to fight those who are wrongfully oppressed u see thats the problem. y should a doctrine ask u to fight now these your muslim brothers have interpreted it the way they deem fit and feel those they wage acts of terror against are indeed wrongfully oppressing them. 1 Like |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by parisbookaddict(f): 11:18pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
EcoTerror: See pic below.. kill unbelievers wherever they find them(Q. 2:191 ),- murder them and treat them harshly(Q. 9:123 ),- fight them, (Q. 8:65 ), until no otherreligion than Islam is left (Q. 2:193 )- humiliate them and impose on them apenalty tax if they are Christians or Jews,(Q. 9:29 )- slay them if they are Pagans (Q. 9:5 ),crucify, or cut off their hands and feet,- expel them from the land in disgrace.And as if this were not enough, “they shallhave a great punishment in worldhereafter” (Q. 5:34 ),- not befriend their own fathers orbrothers if they are not believers(Q. 9:23 ), (Q. 3:28 ),- kill their own family in the battles ofBadr and Uhud and asks Muslims to“strive against the unbelievers with greatendeavor” (Q. 25:52 ),- be stern with them because they belongto hell (Q. 66:9 ).How can any sensible person remainunmoved when he or she finds the Quransaying: “strike off the heads of theunbelievers” then after a “wide slaughteramong them, carefully tie up theremaining captives” (Q. 47:4 ). Death in the cause of Allah's will is encouraged, supported and promoted as well as fully endorsed in Islam. No muslim can refute this, if (s)he does this then (s)he contradicts and disowns the quran. Let's look at some quran verses and one or two narratives from the hadiths, sahih muslim and sahih burhari, 2 of the most respected and authenticated sources in Islam. The Qur'an: Qur'an (4:74)-"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso FIGHTETH IN THE WAY OF Allah, BE HE SLAIN or be he victorious, on him WE SHALL BESTOW A VAST REWARD" Qur'an (9:111)-"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, AND SLAY AND ARE SLAIN: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." Qur'an (2:207)-"And there is the type of man who GIVES HIS LIFE to earn the pleasure of Allah..." Qur'an (61:10-12)"O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty? That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement." This verse was given at the battle Uhud and uses the Arabic word, Jihad. The dark-eyed virgins are mentioned in several places as well, including verses 44:54 and 52:20. For those who swing the other way, there are"perpetual youth"verse6:17, otherwise known as"boys"verses52:24and76:19. Qur'an (17:33)"And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, EXCEPT BY RIGHT" An important verse that is used by Muslims to not only justify their own deaths, but that of other bystanders who might be believers as well. Like we saw 2days ago when the Muslims in Paris killed a muslim police officer in their quest to avenge their prophet. The end justifies the means, with the goal being the defeat of the kafir, their submission and finally the establishment of Islamic rule. Qur'an 3:151 Soon shall we cast TERROR into the hearts of the unbelievers, for that they joined companion with Allah... Mohammed was the original terrorist. Qur'an 8:89 And fight with them until there is no more filna(disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah This is just a little taste of the evil commands in the quran which encourages persecutions, intolerance and prejudice. Now From the Hadith: Bukhari (52:54)- The words of Muhammad:"I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred." This is why modern-day Jihadists often say that they love death. Muslim (20:4678) - During the battle of Uhud, Muhammad was desperate to push men into battle. He promised paradise for those who would martyr themselves, prompting a young man who was eating dates to throw them away and rush to his death. Muslim (20:4655) - A man asks Muhammad "which of men is the best?" Muhammad replies that it is the man who is always ready for battle and flies into it "seeking death at places where it can be expected." (Tellingly perhaps, the next most saintly man in Islam is the hermit who lives in isolation "sparing men from his mischief." Muslim (20:4681) - "Surely, the gates of Paradise are under the shadows of the swords." After hearing Muhammad say that martyrdom leads to paradise, a young man pulls his sword and breaks the sheath (indicating that he has no intention of returning) then flings himself into battle until he is killed. Muslim (20.4635) - "Nobody who enters Paradise will (ever like to) return to this world even if he were offered everything on the surface of the earth (as an inducement) except the martyr who will desire to return to this world and be killed ten times for the sake of the great honour that has been bestowed upon him."
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Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by winner01(m): 11:21pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
princealbashir:www.nairaland.com/2218732/why-believe-islam-islamic-beliefs |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by parisbookaddict(f): 11:23pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: [size=18pt]LAIR [/size] [b] “And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God.”-Revelation 20:4 https://www.nairaland.com/2142658/graphic-pictures-christians- slaughtered-islamic the usual standard muslim response that those muslims who kill non muslims are: 1) Tiny minority 2) Misunderstaders of Islam 3) Not true muslims 4) Are zionist agents sponsored by the CIA to tarnish the image of Islam 5) They do not understand quran in 'original' arabic 6) The dont go to mosque regularly. 7) They have been radicalized They dont represent the 1.5billion muslims. 9) They are marginalized by the govt. 10) It is the fault of the victims who offend the fragile sensibilty of muslims 11) alllah know the best. And other standardized excuses that islamic apologist give anytime their foot-soldiers go on a killing spree. People often wonder why a lot of Muslim riots and protests occur after Friday prayers and why people like jihad john, Osama and other terrorists are devout mosque attending Muslims. Most moderate Muslims will use AL TAQIYYA or ignorance and quote this non-compulsion of religion verse: Qu'ran2: 256 Sahih International "There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing." But they refuse to mention the other verses which compels their terrible religion on others. Remember the quran is a book that is filled with contractions and abrogations and even commands for Muslims to lie and deceive infidels eg Kitman and al Taqiyya.. Here is a little sample of the over 100 quran verses Islamic terrorists use to justify their acts of terror as commanded by Mohammed with total disregard for the non-complusion of religion earlier stated ; Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. Qur’an 9:28—O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise. Qur’an 9:30—The Jews call Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! Qur’an 9:31—They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ, the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him). Qur’an 9:32—Fain would they extinguish Allah’s Light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His Light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it). Qur’an 9:33—It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to prevail it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it). Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other. Qur’an 9:73—O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them. Qur’an 9:111—Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain. Qur’an 9:123—O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness. Qur’an 47:35—Be not weary and fainthearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost. Qur’an 48:29—Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves. "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims." (Bukhari, Book 83 Number 17) Sahih Muslim 30—Muhammad said: “I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.” Sahih Muslim 4366—Muhammad said: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslims.” Sunan An-Nasa’i 3099—The Prophet said: “Whoever dies without having fought or having thought of fighting, he dies on one of the branches of hypocrisy.” Sunan Ibn Majah 2763—The Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever meets Allah with no mark on him (as a result of fighting) in His cause, he will meet Him with a deficiency.” Sahih al-Bukhari 6922—Allah’s Messenger said, “If anyone changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.” Qur'an (4:74)-"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso FIGHTETH IN THE WAY OF Allah, BE HE SLAIN or be he victorious, on him WE SHALL BESTOW A VAST REWARD" Qur'an (9:111)-"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, AND SLAY AND ARE SLAIN: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." Qur'an (2:207)-"And there is the type of man who GIVES HIS LIFE to earn the pleasure of Allah..." Qur'an (61:10-12)"O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty? That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement." This verse was given at the battle Uhud and uses the Arabic word, Jihad. The dark-eyed virgins are mentioned in several places as well, including verses 44:54 and 52:20. For those who swing the other way, there are"perpetual youth"verse6:17, otherwise known as"boys"verses52:24and76:19. Qur'an (17:33)"And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, EXCEPT BY RIGHT" Qur'an 3:151 Soon shall we cast TERROR into the hearts of the unbelievers, for that they joined companion with Allah... Bukhari (52:54)- The words of Muhammad:"I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred." This is why modern-day Jihadists often say that they love death. Qur'an (5:51)-"O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people." Qur'an (5:80)-"You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell. Qur'an (3:28)-"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah:except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..." This last part means that the Muslim is allowed to feign friendship if it is of benefit. Renowned scholar Ibn Kathir states that"believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly." Qur'an (3:118)-"O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people, they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their bosoms conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand." This verse not only warns Muslims not to take non-Muslims as friends. Qur'an (9:23)-"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers" Even family members are not to be taken as friends if they do not accept Islam. (This is the mildest interpretation of this verse from the 9th Sura, which also advocates"slaying the unbeliever wherever ye find them" . Qur'an (53:29)-"Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world." Qur'an (3:85)-"And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers." Qur'an (3:10)-"(As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and these it is who are the fuel of the fire." Those who do not believe in Muhammad are but fuel for the fire of Hell (also 66:6, 2:24. 21:98). Qur'an (7:44)-"The Companions of the Garden will call out to the Companions of the Fire:"We have indeed found the promises of our Lord to us true: Have you also found Your Lord's promises true?"They shall say,"Yes"; but a crier shall proclaim between them:"The curse of Allah is on the wrong-doers" Muslims in heaven will amuse themselves by looking down on non-Muslims in Hell and mocking them while they are being tortured (see22:19-22. Qur'an (1:5-7)-"Show us the straight path, The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray" This is a prayer that Muslims are supposed to repeat each day. "Those who earn Thine anger"specifically refers to Jews and"those who go astray"refers to Christians (seeBukhari (12:749). Remember the ultimate aim of Mohammed and devout Muslims is for Islam to dominate the world. They aim to murder all the pagans and atheists hence condemning their souls to hell, of courses they spare the Christians because a murdered christain in defense of his/her faith becomes heaven bound hence the devout Muslims are commanded to humiliate Christians and have them pay the jizyah or convert or die. Once a muslim renounces Islam they are commanded to behead the apostate. this is the religion of "peace". [/b] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmGRshS0PAw |
Re: Massacre Of 147 people In Kenya: Face Behind The Attack by winner01(m): 11:26pm On Apr 04, 2015 |
Phinalphantasy:such could b said about the early roman catholics not christians |
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