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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:33pm On Apr 07, 2015 |
elampiro: what u have above is chances created, not key pass. you can reconfirm the stat. It already taken care of your objections . this is about all passes that led to shots off target , on targets and goals. considering united took more shots per minute, cleverly was abysmal. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:46pm On Apr 07, 2015 |
coogar: is Messi in United today that Herrera is having more chances created even with our overall poor shots this season than 2012/13? messi is not the only one attempting goal in barca also same for rvp for united. united had a better shot per minute than barca, so why did cleverly didn't have a better cc per minute than Xavi? lastly Cleverly was our box tobox not any DM. Carrick was the dm |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:50pm On Apr 07, 2015 |
elampiro: what has this gotta do with passing accuracy of cleverley & herrera? why are you jumping around? ______________________________ •elampiro - herrera is better than cleverley in everything. •coogar - cleverley passes better than herrera •elampiro - messi has 1000 shots, xavi has 600 assists, iniesta has 40,000 key passes, RVP had 1864377 shots •coogar - cleverley's passing accuracy is 87% & herrera's passing accuracy is 80% - **the stat was backed up with evidence** •elampiro - xavi has 0.0007 min per shot, iniesta has 9.6789 nano-seconds per assist & RVP has 578536 shots per second ______________________________ as you can see, you are jumping about without advancing your argument one jot. who has the better passing accuracy between herrera & cleverley? answer that question and we can call it a day.
who has the better passing accuracy between herrera & cleverley? you said there's nothing cleverley does better than herrera. i countered that point with cleverley's passing accuracy - and since then you have been colouring the argument with irrelevant stats that had nothing to do with herrera. comot for road, abeg. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:07am On Apr 08, 2015 |
coogar: Herrera is the better passer because he gives more passes per minute that lead to an attempt at goal. Any body can have 100percent accuracy passing to defenders. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:44am On Apr 08, 2015 |
elampiro: of course, 80% is better than 87% |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:59am On Apr 08, 2015 |
Enough of this stats reeling.Cleverley can have 100% passes completion for all I care.He is an average player who has found his rightful place in a mediocre Aston Villa.Anyone who wud choose Cleverley over Herrera xcept wen herrera has a fever or broken Leg is not has not been watching Man United.Cleverley can av a lot of pass completion rate because he plays safe passes.The kind of passes I wud comically describe as "No be me spoil am oh" .Herrera is a skillful and risk taking passer such as witnessed in d pass to Mata at Anfield . cleverley wud never av attempted dt bt wud av looked for Phil Jones backwards.This is not even a debate for Christ's sake.Dnt knw y we arguing abt this |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 1:07am On Apr 08, 2015 |
pace and power win this one.. i understand what coogar is trying to say.herrera is better than cleverly in assist and goals and maybe tackles won but cleverly have an edge when it comes to pass accuracy.. as for me i will take herrera over cleverly a thousand time |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 1:08am On Apr 08, 2015 |
coogar abi person hack ur account? na troll we go call this one or new coogar 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 1:17am On Apr 08, 2015 |
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:25am On Apr 08, 2015 |
Odunharry: E be like say u forget Ikedia for the first team |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 3:33am On Apr 08, 2015 |
suxxman:ikedia na sub for team elamps |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:29am On Apr 08, 2015 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:09am On Apr 08, 2015 |
coogar: Fabregas has 86 percent for Chelsea. Cleverley is a better passer according to Coogar. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 8:09am On Apr 08, 2015 |
coogar:OK so Ciro immobile is a legend for being d highest goalscorer in Italy last season |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patwilly(m): 8:50am On Apr 08, 2015 |
coogar:this!! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 9:33am On Apr 08, 2015 |
Leyqute:boss long time...i dey well..how your side |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:38am On Apr 08, 2015 |
elampiro: fabregas can't pass - he takes too many risks cos he forces moves that are not on. that's one of the reasons he didn't fit @ barcelona. he's the worst passer in the midfield that had xavi, iniesta, busquets. even del bosque never trusted him in the midfield, he often left him on the bench or played him as a false striker - where his inaccurate passes wouldn't hurt the team. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:15am On Apr 08, 2015 |
Kemizee: case closed!! 5 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 10:27am On Apr 08, 2015 |
coogar: Remember our pre season game against La galaxy? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:47am On Apr 08, 2015 |
dopeJemi: remind me, what happened there? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 11:04am On Apr 08, 2015 |
coogar: Newcomer Ander Herrera pulled the strings as Wayne Rooney, Reece James and Ashley Young each tallied braces helping Manchester United cruise to a 7-0 victory over the LA Galaxy in front of 84,362 at the Rose Bowl Stadium. Danny Welbeck opened the scoring before This is the headline... I have never seen cleverly influence a game like this before since I started watching him play, like you said, case closed |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 11:08am On Apr 08, 2015 |
coogar: Fabregas can't pass but Cleverly can pass? The rubbish you talk no dey surprise you sometimes? 5 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:16am On Apr 08, 2015 |
Nihilist: cleverley passes the ball better than fabregas - their respective passing stats is not a top secret locked in a bank vault. use it and educate yourself. dopeJemi: i really don't get how you people argue at times. at no point in this argument did i suggest cleverley is a better player than herrera. my point is cleverley passes the ball more accurately than herrera. whether herrera scores more, assists more, does more bicycle kicks or somersaults are irrelevant. the question is - who passes the ball more accurately? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:28am On Apr 08, 2015 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 11:33am On Apr 08, 2015 |
That's how that foolish cleverly was believing the hype of the stat readers and claiming that he plays la Liga style football 3 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:33am On Apr 08, 2015 |
Coogar don watch all the gif wey dey this whole world finish. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:41am On Apr 08, 2015 |
elampiro: someone had to provide the evidence cos i hate the herd mentality of football fans when it comes to cleverley, busquets, mikel, etc. Nihilist: you really need to understand what passing accuracy is - it's not about who makes the most assists or key passes. it's about who passes the ball more accurately. when the pass leads to goals or it leads to a shot taken is irrelevant - there are different statistics for those. heaven didn't fall when leon britton of swansea was deemed the best passer in europe some seasons ago. he had more passing accuracy than xavi, busquets & arteta. no one said he gets the most assists or the most key passes.....english comprehension is a problem on this section of the forum. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:41am On Apr 08, 2015 |
coogar: This means Cleverley will fit into Barca? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 11:47am On Apr 08, 2015 |
coogar: Best pass accuracy stat does not translate to best Passer. Mikel Obi has pass completion rate of 90.5% Only a fool will say that he is a better passer than Fabregas. You can't call a player a good passer because he completes 90% of his 5 yard sideways passes 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:51am On Apr 08, 2015 |
Kicker magazine in Germany are back today with a fresh update in the Hummels saga. Borussia Dortmund’s sporting director, Michael Zorc, has today confirmed to Kicker that he has received no bids for Hummels from anyone. Instead, Zorc talked up the possibility of Hummels staying at the club for a long time to come. Zorc told Kicker: "There is no bids, we plan to continue with him. We will carry on a dialogue with Mats in terms of our relationship." Mats Hummels is now weighing up his options: BVB have offered him a new contract with a pay rise. Now the choice is to extend or say goodbye. Kicker claim that Hummels decision could hinge on the German Cup quarter final game tonight against Hoffenheim. Success in the Cup and qualification for Europe could be a factor. [Source: Kicker.de] |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:59am On Apr 08, 2015 |
Franck Ribery says his relationship with Louis van Gaal was 'poisoned' at Bayern Munich and claims the current Manchester United coach is a 'bad man' who loses players' trust. Van Gaal took charge of the Bavarians in 2009 but only lasted two years, with Ribery admitting he considered a move while the Dutchman was at the club. The French winger says that while Van Gaal, who claimed a league and cup double in his first season, can do great things on the pitch, he did not take to him off it. "We had problems on a human basis, when he started, nobody knew what was going to happen. His idea was that he did not care about names at all, you don't need stars, everybody had to prove themselves again. "The first contact with him was already poisoned. As a professional you lose your trust. He does great things on the pitch but the coach Van Gaal was a bad man. Our relationship was crushed." [Source: goal.com] lol |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:59am On Apr 08, 2015 |
Nihilist: so what does it translate to? worst passer.
he passes the ball better than fabregas. if you don't understand english, buy brighter grammar and start again. the only reason cesc was chased out of barca is because of his poor passes. he takes far too many risks to force an attack that isn't really there. mikel obi would have survived in barca!
it doesn't matter if it's 1 yard or 3 million yards. pass completion stats count every pass made. don't force your illogical opinion on people cos you don't understand the meaning of passing accuracy. |
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