That piece of evidence is anecdotal. This does not represent reality. Many women marry less intelligent men as well. Intelligence is not the only think that matters in marriage. I'd rather marry a less intelligent woman who is not violent/likes to cheat on me/ has mental issues.

nonjebose:
Is it not smartness for me to appreciate that the genes encoding for smartness in me are contributed by both of them? If smartness is elegance, that I got from her. If smartness is energetic movement, both of them. If it is being clever or witty,it is mainly my dad. If it is being shrewd,my dad. Intelligence? My dad. So, what do you think is the answer to the question?

lestat:


You my lady!!!! Deserve more likes, you coherent, intelligent, reply left me so happy... it's rare to find my fellow men even here on nairaland type such a matter of fact yet un provoking reply.. I hail thee

The truth of the matter is, it's not as intelligent as you think. The ability or lack of to engage in a conversation doesn't constitute a lack of intelligence. She doesn't understand intelligencentre at all. Intelligence is a cumulative addition of three main things, Namely; short-term memory, reasoning and a verbal component.
Anybody that can't hold a decent conversation is simply lacking in verbal intelligence, which doesnt make him/her leas intelligent overall. Verbal ability involve; Reading, writing, speaking. Socially speaking, most physicists are known to lack a certain level of social Verbal intelligence, of which MrsChima think constitutes to overall intelligence. Technically speaking, they are still very intelligent (even verbally), as all it means is that they lack social verbal intelligence. Most highly educated people with advance degrees like maths and theoretical physics are very intelligent but lack social verbal intelligence, which must not be mistaken for overall intelligence. I think the ability to come up with innovative ideas and insightful questions is only as powerful as the ability to convey them. Most great minds have always find a way to get their idea across, which shows a good/decent (Maybe not excellent in social term)verbal ability.
According to historians, when P. Dirac (often referred to as one word per hour) met Niels Bohr in Copenhagen, he grumbled to Ernest Rutherford, "This Dirac, he seems to know a lot of physics, but never says anything." Neils also complained about P. Dirac of not knowing how to finish a sentence of which his reply was "I was taught at school never to start a sentence without knowing the end of it :lol:. My point is, communication skills is just part of Verbal ability.
I think 'exceptional(far and few between)' doctors, physicists and engineers from top Universities are more likely to be more intelligent than someone from just any universities. Therefore next time you talk to someone unable to hold what might appear to you as intelligent talk, ask yourself this, Does he lack social verbal intelligence or technical verbal intelligence? If they lack both, then there might be a problem.
I agree no gender is more intelligent than the others Btw.

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Call me whatever. I don't expect otherwise from you. And it will be demeaning to start calling you names too. All i am begging is for you to be more rational and less emotional. Support women! That is what i expect from you and any other woman. But add a little reasoning to it and we are good.


By the way, you still haven't disproved the OP's observation/question: are Nigerian men (on the average) more knowledgeable and wiser than Nigerian Ladies (on the average)?

I might be wrong but these are my observations. Women in nigeria has always been asked to "stay in the kitchen". I remember growing up, when my brothers are watching the news and soccer matches in the living room with our father, my mom made sure my sister and I are helping out in the kitchen. We had no business in certain affairs. This has been the trend even with my mother and grandmothers. Therefore, it is only recent decade that women are encouraged to aspire more than a family life. The average Women need more time to catch up with the average men. This is where I compared it to the situation in the states with whites having more wealth than blacks. The accumulation of wealth happened over the generation and research shows that you're less likely to move up the class your parent were. But we have women that are not average but above it and proof than women are intelligent.

Borrussia:
There you go about sheering pointless jargons outta your Leaping Lena, quote me not if you've got nothing tangible to utter.

For the fact that you couldn't get a thing from my comment, you have given me a fair view of your said intellect. I guess I'll have to channel my energy to a more challenging/smart persona.

If only you devoted more time to reading comprehension instead of devoting it to cramming Oxford.

dany87:
If men are wiser, it is mainly because of the way this society prevents women from getting educated (at least to the same degree men can get educated), and that is something that needs to be changed. The faster it changes and women can have degrees or vocational training rather than stay at home and depend on their husband for their income/survival, the faster our country will improve and modernise.

I do agree with you that the society hasn't helped women with regards to education. But i think the comparison is between and average Nigerian guy and girl who have both attended a university and obtained a degree. The question is, can you engage an average female graduate in conversations that ranges from politics to business, fashion to literature, history to current affairs, etc, and she gives her own contributions no matter how shallow it is?

I have met a couple of knowledgeable, intelligent and wonderful Nigerian ladies both online and offline and i hold them in high esteem. Ladies who would motivate you to be better. The same cannot be said for the majority i ve met.

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Well argued!! ^^ [quote author=Emdeejay post=32924636][/quote]

nonjebose:
Error of assumption

You answered and i replied.

micktoxin:

The truth of the matter is, it's not as intelligent as you think. The ability or lack of to engage in a conversation doesn't constitute a lack of intelligence.
I agree no gender is more intelligent than the others Btw.

Well said bruh. Where are all you guys whenever I need intelligent convo? All I see online here are rejected retards with IQ's within the range of ducklings

and Why is that (only sane/logical reasons allowed, please do not use the Bible/Qur'an as a source of logical arguments)?

shinningstar:
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Very true but wiser? relative..knowledgeable? YES.

When I want my lady to either leave on time or sleep off, I do 3 things

1: switch to al jazeera
2: switch to NATO wild

Or switch to discovery channel..

Guys, use this to test your various female friends/wife/sisters and post your result here.

Emdeejay:


It's called hasty generalization, a subgroup of faulty generalization. Nigeria has a population of 170 million and approximately 45% are women. Amongst the people she's met, she could come up with that conclusion. But I find that to be opposite in my society. I might be interpreting the poster the wrong way but my understanding was that she is trying to create a platform where people can talk about their different experiences to create a general awareness as to why women don't engage in specific discourse. For example, politics in nairaland, or even universally as we have few countries that' can boast of ever having a female president.
Please enlighten me, as I might have taken this to a different spectrum entirely

That may as well be true - if I was ignorant enough to use nairaland as a case study for Nigerian women I will likely assume the same.

I have already mentioned a few reasons why women will not engage in political debates here on NL (bullying) as well as why you are more likely to find them in Fashion, Family and Romance (cultures and traditions).

Theres another Nigerian forum I frequent (either Naijavillagesquare or lipstick alley) which are predominantly female and the posters will blow your mind. From my personal observations the Nigerian women i engage in comment sections of the guardian or the economist have been nothing short of amazing. This does not even include the Nigerians I went to university with or befriended in intra university social groups.

There are more Nigerian females than men (this is a fact) in most of my universities degree programms (this includes medicine, pharmacy and engineering) and theyre the highest black group in my unis alumnae. It's likely the OP hasn't gone out of her comfort zone to engage intelligent women or she simply isn't up to par to do so.

The fact we are still a mile away from having a female president speaks more of our political scene than it does the female populace, for one many doubt we will see an igbo president talkless of a female one. Equality in Nigeria isn't a measure of intelligence.

Male dominance in academics and business is a result of the oppression women experience til this day, I have said traditionally women are told to be submissive, once you have finished dumbing down the role of women in society we shoudn't be surprised they are unable to dominate worthier scenes. but if we take a sample of females and males and measure their outcomes you are 100% likely to find women are more intelligent as previous studies have taught us.

The posters assertions are a slap in the face of these facts and figures and a result of the male worshiping we find in Nigeria.

Where does she work? Is she a teacher? and where do you work? That might let us know a bit about the differences, which are cultural/social in many cases

honeric01:
Very true but wiser? relative..knowledgeable? YES.

When I want my lady to either leave on time or sleep off, I do 3 things

1: switch to al jazeera
2: switch to NATO wild

Or switch to discovery channel..

Guys, use this to test your various female friends/wife/sisters and post your result here.

MzNelly:


We can't do without you guys too.

Chop More Kiss

nonjebose:
So, what do you think is the answer to the question?

The answer is Yes you are smarter than your mom

dany87:
That piece of evidence is anecdotal. This does not represent reality. Many women marry less intelligent men as well. Intelligence is not the only think that matters in marriage. I'd rather marry a less intelligent woman who is not violent/likes to cheat on me/ has mental issues.

My dear that piece is a response to a question asked on whether we are smarter than our mothers. Of course,there are women married to men they are smarter than. But I stand to be corrected that most women honestly prefer men that are smarter than them. Your statement on your preference only goes to support that this is not an anecdote

Chinum:


For the fact that you couldn't get a thing from my comment, you have given me a fair view of your said intellect. I guess I'll have to channel my energy to a more challenging/smart persona.

This is pure wittiness and deification of yourself, why are you so obtuse to the fact that you're exhibiting a monotonous redundancy? I made a statement and you quoted me with a narcissists and saucy statement; was I wrong to have asked you to explain the meaning of your post and you went ahead to display your bonkers by uttering wrought of jargons, more reason I hate arguing with female- I can see myself being loathed and begrudge because we're subjected to different opined gender perception. Once again quote me not if you have nothing sensible to utter.

cheers

Daninya11:

Have you read the book by Steven Harvey? ?. great book I must confess. .

Yeah.. It is

And this is a problem, because some of these women might invent something or bring an invaluable contribution to science, engineering/technology. We are losing all these valuable contributions letting discouraging them from being part of politics or higher learning in general, especially if they do not have the money to study abroad or in more female friendly environments

queensmith:


That may as well be true - if I was ignorant enough to use nairaland as a case study for Nigerian women I will likely assume the same.

I have already mentioned a few reasons why women will not engage in political debates here on NL (bullying) as well as why you are more likely to find them in Fashion, Family and Romance (cultures and traditions).

Theres another Nigerian forum I frequent (either Naijavillagesquare or lipstick alley) which are predominantly female and the posters will blow your mind. From my personal observations the Nigerian women i engage in comment sections of the guardian or the economist have been nothing short of amazing. This does not even include the Nigerians I went to university with or befriended in intra university social groups.

There are more Nigerian females than men (this is a fact) in most of my universities degree programms (this includes medicine, pharmacy and engineering) and theyre the highest black group in my unis alumnae. It's likely the OP hasn't gone out of her comfort zone to engage intelligent women or she simply isn't up to par to do so.

The fact we are still a mile away from having a female president speaks more of our political scene than it does the female populace, for one many doubt we will see an igbo president talkless of a female one. Equality in Nigeria isn't a measure of intelligence.

Male dominance in academics and business is a result of the oppression women experience til this day, I have said traditionally women are told to be submissive, once you have finished dumbing down the role of women in society we shoudn't be surprised they are unable to dominate worthier scenes. but if we take a sample of females and males and measure their outcomes you are 100% likely to find women are more intelligent as previous studies have taught us.

The posters assertions are a slap in the face of these facts and figures and a result of the male worshiping we find in Nigeria.

Missonas:

The answer is Yes you are smarter than your mom

lol. Quite deductive. But I think that I would not like to be compared with the greatest woman of life. She is the best. I love her for who she is

@OP , This is a very Controversial topic that will give rise to a lot of controversies which may not be controlled..
Well be4 I start..

1. First of all..Wisdom and knowledge comes from God.
2. Being knowledgeable and wise depends on both sexes and some factors..
3. To be continued....

So generally, Men are wiser and more knowledgeable than women but in the case of Nigeria, i think i will get back to you.... Thank You.

You have misinterpreted my statements. What I wanted to say is that the fact that you have married a less intelligent woman does not mean that is always the case. All things being equal, I'd rather marry a more intelligent woman who is kind and faithful over a less intelligent woman no matter how beatiful she might be. What do you ladies think? Would you marry a less intelligent man, who was faithful and not violent, over a man who cheated on you and beat you up but was more intelligent than you?

nonjebose:
My dear that piece is a response to a question asked on whether we are smarter than our mothers. Of course,there are women married to men they are smarter than. But I stand to be corrected that most women honestly prefer men that are smarter than them. Your statement on your preference only goes to support that this is not an anecdote

queensmith:


again it is not an insult - it speaks for the surroundings of a Nigerian women who has failed to find intelligent Nigerian women. Very simple assertion. We are comparing encounters here unless you want to follow me around with a camera you will take my statements at face value.

Unfortunately, Nigerias male dominated academic institutions fail to produce us with reliable data, that can accurately substantiate the OPs claims. Maybe if there were more intelligent women eh *rolls eyes*

If we were speaking of the other parts of the world it's a proven fact women are more intelligent than men. This is from a series of studies conducted over decades.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/9401241/IQ-tests-women-score-higher-than-men.html

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/08/hedge-funds-run-by-women-outperform-other-hedge-funds/375542/

http://www.wsj.com/news/articles/SB20001424052702303374004580043670866367344?mod=yahoo_itp&mg=reno64-wsj

and this is without factoring in controversial topics like erotic capital or sexual politics.

Now maybe when you start to hire women more in Nigeria. . . .

Just went through the articles you posted. Nice one, especially the one on banking, sales and investments. (Still need to digest its content though, especially on hedge funds).

Although they still don't prove anything about Nigerian women cos these were stats carried out on women with different backgrounds, race and ideologies.

Like I said in my initial post and like you rightly said in your comment, there are no stats to prove or ascertain these facts when it comes to Nigerian Men and Women.

Our arguments would only dwell on logical assertions and experiences. I made a point earlier on Page 2, there is a particular radio program on "The Woman" and yet when its time to make valid contributions, very few call in. Even when the OAP's categorically state that only female callers should call in.

You might raise the argument that they are busy doing something else, but yet it beats my imagination that when issues such as fashion, food and entertainment are discussed, our ladies easily pick interest.

Suffice it to say that its a "Nigerian tingy" for ladies not to be interested in intellectual issues?

More so being knowledgeable is being well informed and while a lotta ladies raise the argument that they are only knowledgeable in things that they pick interest in, furthermore proves Men right.

I for one would not say I am well grounded in every issue, as a matter of fact I am NOT. Yet I read about things I don't have a slightest interest in. Am not a literature person but a thread came up few months ago on Adichie and El Nathan and I took my time to go through it. I learnt a lot.

gospi:
Missclassy. Oh well. This thread is really insulting I must say. But like u wrote.. Its based on ur observations...

Wen lawyers meet to discuss topics in dia field ,how well do you think an accountant wld contribute? Can u now say the accountant is not intelligent cos he can not discuss intelligently in d field of Law?
My point is .. It all comes down to d Topic of interest... Okay...
Wen ladies talk abt cooking ,how many men can give meaningful contributions? Should we now say they ar not intelligent cos they can not giv reasonable contributions in a matter they are "perhaps" not wired for?
Most ladies are not dat interested in politics, so u won't expect dem to know so much,but engage them in somtin els that catches dia interest I bet u ,alota men won't stand dem.

2ndly.. Most ladies won't contribute cos they hav allowed people( especially men) deceive them into believing that its not "lady-like" to argue especially in public..so for dat reason dey tend to keep dia opinions to demselves..

3rdly.. A lot of times Most Men argue to Win .. They feel intimidated wen a lady is "winning" them in d discussions... So wen they know u are saying somtin reasonable they resrt to insults...which a lot of ladies avoid... So many reasons jareh.
Nobody is mor intelligent or knowledgeable dan d oda.

Take a closer look at the Op's observations.

missclasssy:
In public settings, you hardly find women making reasonable arguments and discussions, its just mindless chit-chats and gossip, unlike guys who argue important facets of life like philosophical concepts and politics.

I stayed in the girls hostel in school and I hardly ever witnessed a reasonable argument or discourse.

Even here on Nairaland, I have noticed the same thing. On the religion and politics section for instance, you rarely see ladies involving in intelligent discourse and arguments. Just few.

I stay in lagos and I listen to the radio a lot.
There are particular programs I enjoy listening to such as,
~ Chat station with Nelly
~Morning crossfire, both on Nigeria info 99.3.
A lot of intelligent and educative discussions on various topics are being held on these programs but you find out that 95% of the contributions are made by men.

The emboldened statements only goes to tell us how the female folks have decided to indulge in trivial topics and fancy interests.

dany87:
Where does she work? Is she a teacher? and where do you work? That might let us know a bit about the differences, which are cultural/social in many cases

This has nothing to do with where I work or where she works..

infact, I am suppose to be glued to csbc if its by where we work..

I think it has more to do the society.. the society encourages women to be narrow minded when it comes to general knowledge..

She's a guru in math and accounting but apart from stuffs connected to these two and maybe religion, entertainment + fashion yadayada, the rest are zeros..

she's picking up though because she can sense the gap and have started working on closing it.. funny enough, I contribute more into her interest (except math) than an average woman lolz.

MrsChima:


You answered and i replied.

Ok oo. But your question was not fair sha.

dany87:
And this is a problem, because some of these women might invent something or bring an invaluable contribution to science, engineering/technology. We are losing all these valuable contributions letting discouraging them from being part of politics or higher learning in general, especially if they do not have the money to study abroad or in more female friendly environments

God bless you! Somebody (maybe Bill Gates) made this statement about Saudi Arabia. When you don't exploit your talent you don't realize your potential!

If you see the number of nurses and doctors from Nigeria in the UK!

Those that live in the UK even know, it's only among the females that you will find a 40 year old Nigerian with 4 - 5 kids in university studying for her 2nd to 3rd degree!

These mamas we even mock in church many of them are masters holders, they outwork, out educate and out wit the men at every turn! However when it comes to studying them we will turn to the one whose husband is not around and decide she is therefore unsuccessful in life.

Our real problem is our perception, if we give these women ample opportunities we will be surprised! Just take a look at the elites!

MrsChima:


You answered and i replied.

MrsChima I dey greet oo

AGAIN people saying that what they think is right because God says it (PROBABLY THEY THINK THE HAVE SPOKEN TO GOD HIMSELF/HERSELF). If God exists (not something that science has proved/disproved), I doubt he would come to speak to you so you could tell us what is right/wrong.

Thanks for your kind help, but I think I will stick to reason/science/rational arguments until God himself/herself comes and tells us what is right and wrong.

harrysteeze:
@OP , This is a very Controversial topic that will give rise to a lot of controversies which may not be controlled..
Well be4 I start..

1. First of all..Wisdom and knowledge comes from God.
2. Being knowledgeable and wise depends on both sexes and some factors..
3. To be continued....

So generally, Men are wiser and more knowledgeable than women but in the case of Nigeria, i think i will get back to you.... Thank You.

Borrussia:
This is pure wittiness and deification of yourself, why are you so obtuse to the fact that you're exhibiting a monotonous redundancy? I made a statement and you quoted me with a narcissists and saucy statement; was I wrong to have asked you to explain the meaning of your post and you went ahead to display your bonkers by uttering wrought of jargons, more reason I hate arguing with female- I can see myself being loathed and begrudge because we're subjected to different opined gender perception. Once again quote me not if you have nothing sensible to utter.

cheers

Typical male chauvinist. Stay thr chest beating while the said females over ride you.

queensmith:


That may as well be true - if I was ignorant enough to use nairaland as a case study for Nigerian women I will likely assume the same.

I have already mentioned a few reasons why women will not engage in political debates here on NL (bullying) as well as why you are more likely to find them in Fashion, Family and Romance (cultures and traditions).

I always find myself agreeing with you. My first comment stated why I don't contribute and it's because of the uncivilized act of name calling and other forms of verbal bullying. And my last comment talked about the tradition in Nigerian homes. I left nigeria when I was a teenager so I can't speak of the situation right now but even here in the states, studies show that women have higher enrollment and graduation rate from college.

You're becoming my celebrity best friend in my head lol.

micktoxin:

Although distinct, they are closely related. Education attainment is highly associated with intelligence. While it is true that "anyone" can attain a level of education and that someone with money can probably "purchase" a degree of some kind, those with advanced education are almost also quite intelligent. Your usage of George Bush as an example, is quite predictable and ignorant. George Bush studied history for goodness sake. You seem to lack intelligence anyways.
There are different types of intelligence by the way, just so you know.

Education is acquired or learned which means external input(gathering of data/information) and intelligence is simply having the innate ability to critically think and formulate organic thoughts.

My husband didn't know how to speak Creole but he was educated to speak the language and comprehend the written structure. He is gifted in music and never had formal education in music. He was able to critically analyzed and produce music.

I have met individuals with higher education from prominent universities and some of them couldn't hold a wit to save their lives! Education is about what you were studying as a child and adult but it is not about what you can do with your mind organically!

You can't teach sameness and critical thinking!