Emdeejay:


Sir, are you Nigerian? I don't think I've met a Nigerian man that says they don't know something. I think what you said should be the motto for all human.

As I don't have the privilege to speak with graduates nor listen to the radio but what time of the day are these programs? What's the gender of the hosts? Certain things make women not want to share their views especially if it doesn't add anything to their value as a person

Well, those radio programs I mentioned on my original post are hosted by ladies.
One in the day time and the other at night.

vfactor:


Call me whatever. I don't expect otherwise from you. And it will be demeaning to start calling you names too. All i am begging is for you to be more rational and less emotional. Support women! That is what i expect from you and any other woman. But add a little reasoning to it and we are good.


By the way, you still haven't disproved the OP's observation/question: are Nigerian men (on the average) more knowledgeable and wiser than Nigerian Ladies (on the average)?



And ranting on social media doesn't in anyway empower women!

Hasta Luego!

You are right I don't rant online for women empowerment. Thank you for acknowledging that. It wasn't do hard wasn't it? No.

I have already addressed the question and you don't have to agree with my responses. I will not lose sleep over it!

You are the one that is overly emotional and crying like a little biish over a statement you don't like.

Try harder!

dany87:
Please read our past posts instead of repeating the same information.

Women never had a chance to have an education in the past, the served a very important purpos that required most of their time:

1. Producing a lot of children and caring for them (in the past, most children died in their first years, so women had to have 7 or more so that at least two would survive and replace society). Now that the vast majority of children survive childhood, far less children (not much more than 2 children per woman) are needed to replace society, and modern technology allows us to devote less time to agriculture, were children were used intensively as well.

2. Men are stronger and can easily dominate women, and that is way they have always controlled most areas of science, technology, politics (areas that retain prestige and prominence) etc. until very recently (and they still control them, since old men born in the more patriarchal 1950s now control most areas in society). However, even under these circumstances there are many examples of female scientists/philosophers etc... (for more information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_scientists_before_the_21st_century#Antiquity)


That is why they have invented all these things, because they could and did NOT allow women to access their field.

In as much as I'm unwilling to admit it, I must say you're the first person that provide to me what can be termed fact today.

But I have a question for you, since you feel females are smarter than males, could you prove a point to me, like provide proves.

The number of men and women is fairly even Borussia, and it is a proven fact that men are usually MUCH stronger than women, and that is why they can beat them up, keep them at home and make them produce a lot of children if they choose to (which they did in the past).

When most children died at birth or before the age of five, a society that produced very few children might not survive as opposed to other more prolific societies, and that might have had something to do with the way all more primitive societies evolved.

Now that most children survive and there's technology in agriculture, keeping a woman having a ton of children without studying and producing knowledge or industrial products/ teaching, etc. does more harm than good to modern economies, and other countries will be ahead of us if we keep following these traditions.

Borrussia:
And I told you that 'domination' is a baseless fact, what else can be termed as intelligence apart from creativity. These are obvious facts that need not be reprimanded, don't make yourself unconvinced because of your egotheism.

Whereas, there is no law that says women shouldn't invent or partake in the intellectual stuffs regarding the society, if not that ya'll have accustomed yourself into thinking you are being stamped upon by the male folks. And your population is alarming, so much for claiming you're being 'dominated'

MrsChima:


How is the answer evasive when the question I asked you are you smarter than your mom You answered that you are smarter than the chick your fucking I hope the chick isn't your mom!

Cheeky. Comparing my mum and I is as good as comparing you and your dad,get the flow

queensmith:


I have listened to Nigerian callers on radio - they are never intelligent, especially on political sujects they spend their time praising the presenter and contribute little to nothing on the conversation. It's the same for callers into LBC radio - you draw a specific crowd, you get a specific response.

I totally agree with you on this. Funny as it may sound I turn off my radio when certain callers call in, cos they just end up spewing trash. (Esp Men).

While not all are like that, there are still a few that contribute very intelligently and back up whatever issue they raised with prerequisite facts.

queensmith:


One of my friends - very intelligent, her education is enviable (Imperial, Oxford) private colleges and secondary schools. She will decimate any maths test you give her. Ask her about Nigerian politics she will talk rubbish. Ask her about Gucci bags and its as if she has memorized the catalog. I agree there are certain industries that are tailored towards women - these industries specifically exploit the objectification women experience. This does not mean my friend isn't intelligent - it simply means she has different interests. Because I'm interested in politics doesn't mean I'm intelligent.

Well said, Although I have noticed that ladies who have better educational background and grew up in the right environment are more of the inspiring ones.

Be it as it may, I think one singular thing we can pull out from this debate is that the environment we live in, our education and exposure we have would determine the kinda things we pick up interest in.

Furthermore as a country our educational standards are below par and hardly motivates nor adds any significant value, hence the reason a whole lot hardly engage in intellectual issues.

You are perfectly entitled to have your own opinion. Neither of us have data to prove/disprove this, even though I disagree, I must say I do not really know the answer.

nonjebose:
The various definitions of smartness are not subjective,if you understand what they imply. Have you not seen couples,where the men are more fashionable than the women? Or you suppose elegance is the exclusive preserve of women? Besides,if your definition of smartness as being intelligence is considered,I strongly believe more women would rather live with very smart men with behavioural deficiencies than with unintelligent men with perfect manners,if attainable at all.

MrsChima:


Education is acquired or learned which means external input(gathering of data/information) and intelligence is simply having the innate ability to critically think and formulate organic thoughts.

My husband didn't know how to speak Creole but he was educated to speak the language and comprehend the written structure. He is gifted in music and never had formal education in music. He was able to critically analyzed and produce music.

I have met individuals with higher education from prominent universities and some of them couldn't hold a wit to save their lives! Education is about what you were studying as a child and adult but it is not about what you can do with your mind organically!

You can't teach sameness and critical thinking!

MrsChima it shows your husband is intelligent verbally and you perhaps even more so, but like I said earlier to another poster, intelligence is a combination of many things. Most people in top Universities with advanced degrees (especially in maths and physics) are known to lack communication and social skills. I am sure you have met geeks who can't hold a normal convo to save their lives.Will you say they lack wisdom or intelligence (not fair)?
P.Dirac, arguably the greatest scientists after A.Eistein was known to suffer from poor communication skills and wit, but yet still discovered the greatest quantum theory of this century.
We can all think of people that have poor reasoning and brilliant memories, or fantastic language skills but aren't so hot at reasoning, and so on.
Knowledge is a fancy name for the conditioning we have been subjected to. Wisdom is something that you start to have once you realize that it was just conditioning.
Intelligence is is a measure of how well you can use your intellect to help yourself deal with the situations that you are confronted with in life.

what can I say... women just don't like arguing with guys la... except girls weh no park time... all na forming shaa

MrsChima:


Thank you dear! I make you pepper soup and eba!

looking forward to this yummy yummy

dany87:
The number of men and women is fairly even Borussia, and it is a proven fact that men are usually MUCH stronger than women, and that is why they can beat them up, keep them at home and make them produce a lot of children if they choose to (which they did in the past).

When most children died at birth or before the age of five, a society that produced very few children might not survive as opposed to other more prolific societies, and that might have had something to do with the way all more primitive societies evolved.

Now that most children survive and there's technology in agriculture, keeping a woman having a ton of children without studying and producing knowledge or industrial products/ teaching, etc. does more harm than good to modern economies, and other countries will be ahead of us if we keep following these traditions.

Nope, your assertions are duly wrong, you're toying with my feelings; prolly for me to pity the females with my lugubrious mien by stating that and it is a proven fact that men are usually MUCH stronger than women, and that is why they can beat them up, keep them at home and make them produce a lot of children if they choose to (which they did in the past).- this statement is a mere shearing of fallaciloquence and doesn't in anyway correlate to the fact that men are smarter. If a lady chooses not to marry and pursue her career instead, marriage can't be forced on her. And it is the duty of the females to make offsprings, that's what they are made for. So what are you telling me.

openmine:

Hahahahahahahahaha... bruv u wicked.... but u too much...Hahahahahahahahaha

No mind that babe! She dey joke with Naija Ninjas

Oh no! That is not what I really think.

I do not think women are smarter in the sense that they are more intelligent than men. I've read some scientific studies which try to prove that there are differences in the kinds of intelligence women/men tend to have, and they suggested that women do better at verbal intelligence while men did better at spatial reasoning. However, these studies were very controversial and social influences since childhood can play a very big role here.

I tend to think that IF there are ANY differences between female and male intelligence (I do not think there is definite evidence for this), they are NOT GREAT, but very subtle, and you might find lots of women with more intelligence in areas where men are usually more intelligent, and vice versa.

Borrussia:
In as much as I'm unwilling to admit it, I must say you're the first person that provide to me what can be termed fact today.

But I have a question for you, since you feel females are smarter than males, could you prove a point to me, like provide proves.

Borrussia:
Oh! You failed to include your shaky fingers, the main fact is that I wanna argue with someone; but you're too small for me. From the convo we've been having all these while- you haven't [b]uttered a correct sentence. [/b]Go call your folks; maybe they can be a worthy opponent you failed to be. If you're gonna quote me next, let it be about the afore-said topic! Else I won't reply you.

Odaro baba Borru

dany87:
Oh no! That is not what I really think.

I do not think women are smarter in the sense that they are more intelligent than men. I've read some scientific studies which try to prove that there are differences in the kinds of intelligence women/men tend to have, and they suggested that women do better at verbal intelligence while men did better at spatial reasoning. However, these studies were very controversial and social influences since childhood can play a very big role here.

I tend to think that IF there are ANY differences between female and male intelligence (I do not think there is definite evidence for this), they are NOT GREAT, but very subtle, and you might find lots of women with more intelligence in areas where men are usually more intelligent, and vice versa.

Malapropism of fallaciloquence. If males and females were to be placed on a juxtaposition in reasoning and academic field, the result will be handicapped

Well, tell me how women are going to have children without marrying and being able to pursue your career while having children. It is certainly very hard to do that if you are single. And if the woman married early (usually to a much older man), he might not want to help raising the children not only with money, but also doing part of the stuff at home. And tell that to your parents/family, who may not like that a woman does not stick to a more traditional lifestyle. It is much harder for a woman to have a professional career if they want to have children alone or get married in Nigeria.

Borrussia:
Nope, your assertions are duly wrong, you're toying with my feelings; prolly for me to pity the females with my lugubrious mien by stating that and it is a proven fact that men are usually MUCH stronger than women, and that is why they can beat them up, keep them at home and make them produce a lot of children if they choose to (which they did in the past).- this statement is a mere shearing of fallaciloquence and doesn't in anyway correlate to the fact that men are smarter. If a lady chooses not to marry and pursue her career instead, marriage can't be forced on her. And it is the duty of the females to make offsprings, that's what they are made for. So what are you telling me.

Tanx OP for that nice. Observation i'v also taken my time to observe that aspect of women most of them lack the opportunity to explore such facts about life, while a fair share of women dont have interest. In such things bt as men we have access too. Alot of tinx n explore dem as well, and one other problem is "exposure"

Wow, so this made FP...I've just tried to catch up on the the recent comments, by the time I got to page 18 and noticed that a new page had been added (page 23), I had to concede defeat. So I can't really share more detailed comments.

It seems most of the new comments I've read are rehashing the same tunes, nice to see more ladies here though. Maybe I'll try once I've finished my journey.

Emdeejay:


Sir, are you Nigerian? I don't think I've met a Nigerian man that says they don't know something. I think what you said should be the motto for all human.

As I don't have the privilege to speak with graduates nor listen to the radio but what time of the day are these programs? What's the gender of the hosts? Certain things make women not want to share their views especially if it doesn't add anything to their value as a person

Yess!! Am proudly Naija. . Thanks for the vote of confidence.

I think the OP has answered your question on the radio programs.

The particular one I highlighted is the one called "The Woman" (issues concerning the woman are being discussed and some remarkable individuals get interviewed.).

Its hosted by a lady also.

queensmith:


You see - I dont get hard ons the blood is prioritised for my brain. i am therefore 50x mor intelligent than you!

you had to convince me of your intellect? I sure didnt fail biology class.

Exactly what im saying.

Ok

I got the message loud and clear - British culture was restrictive to women pre - equality era. Their culture was never based on an inherent belief (or an obvious one lets say) that women are incapable. Just a general belief that their roles should be confined. Nigerians believe in male superiority. That is a fckin hard battle to fight! Til today we haven't addressed it, issues as simple as bigamy or land use for widows remain unattended to. A woman who loses her husband loses everything, a woman with no education has nothing. Girls in the North are kidnapped for going to school. How do we even begin to compare their modern day experience to an age old oppression of women that has been tackled?

wouldnt you agree this stems from socio-economic problems rather than equity for women. Mind you males were also kidnapped but the outcry is more on females. Stop the victim card.

Stop nit-picking.

That you failed to make a consistent logical point and give a definite answer is nit-picking? Quite an intellect

No idea what you are trying to say here?

thats how far deep your mind is buried in sentiments.

MrsChima:


Thank you dear! I make you pepper soup and eba!

Me nko

dany87:
Well, tell me how women are going to have children without marrying and being able to pursue your career while having children. It is certainly very hard to do that if you are single. And if the woman married early (usually to a much older man), he might not want to help raising the children not only with money, but also doing part of the stuff at home. And tell that to your parents/family, who may not like that a woman does not stick to a more traditional lifestyle. It is much harder for a woman to have a professional career if they want to have children alone or get married in Nigeria.

Okay why is it changing now, why are they fighting for what they could have fought for years ago, the fact that ladies have acquired little knowledge doesn't mean we are on the same par with you. "The nose is distant to the head" as yoruba's would say.

You provide a statement with no arguments supporting it. I explained why women did not invent all the things men invented. Please provide some arguments/reasons (if you can) or this statement will not be something credible.

Borrussia:
Malapropism of fallaciloquence. If males and females were to be placed on a juxtaposition in reasoning and academic field, the result will be handicapped

It is changing because of many reasons: the progressive industrialization of the country, the influence of modern media, more education (30 years ago, the literacy gap between men and women was much higher), the discovery of oil certainly helps. All these factors interact with eacth other in complex ways, reinforcing themselves.There are many reasons why the world advances, we just need to make it happen as fast as possible here ^^.

Borrussia:
Okay why is it changing now, why are they fighting for what they could have fought for years ago, the fact that ladies have acquired little knowledge doesn't mean we are on the same par with you. "The nose is distant to the head" as yoruba's would say.

I don't know. But I do know if you meet a person in their area of interest, they'll leave you so captivated you'll think they're the most intelligent being alive.


I'd like to hear your opinion, Missclasssy.

UjSizzle:
I don't know. But I do know if you meet a person in their area of interest, they'll leave you so captivated you'll think they're the most intelligent being alive.


I'd like to hear your opinion, Missclasssy.

Well, I am neutral on this. I just want to read what others have to say, especially the ladies.

Missclasssy let me do some analysis for you to understand okay.

1. Great minds discuss Idea, Idle minds discuss People:

Men rarely discuss on their counterparts wearing dolce and gabana, fashion line, shoe, etc but women eh! Dey gossip about Annie putting on a short skirt, etc.

Imagine if the 3 wise men were 3 wise women

2. Ladies are into business of scamming magas and developed their skills into gold digging investment

They reason like hen where they are expecting the poor soul cock to toast them and cater for their needs.

3. They only think of wedding their dream man as the best achievement.

4. They are extremely lazy and reason like coconut.

5. They read silly magazines, watch slow poke tv channels and hang out with un reasonable friends.

AirborneLacer:


Take a closer look at the Op's observations.



The emboldened statements only goes to tell us how the female folks have decided to indulge in trivial topics and fancy interests.

Oh really? because it is trivial to men dosnt mean it wld b trivial to women.
Most Men lov football and dey can kill talking abt it.most women see dat as trivial..so lemme sound like u by saying "men also decide to indulge in trivial topics"

That is certainly untrue. Men also discuss trivial topics, and please read our past posts. On average, women are less educated for cultural and social reasons, so it's easy to see why they would talk about appearance, since they were not allowed to have a propera education and need to marry someone who can maintain her. Read the last three or four pages instead of posting something at the last page please

wristwatch:
Missclasssy let me do some analysis for you to understand okay.

1. Great minds discuss Idea, Idle minds discuss People:

Men rarely discuss on their counterparts wearing dolce and gabana, fashion line, shoe, etc but women eh! Dey gossip our Annie putting on a short skirt, etc.

Imagine if the 3 wise men were 3 wise women

2. Ladies are into business of scamming magas and developed their skills into gold digging investment

They reason like hen where they are expecting the poor soul cock to toast them and cater for their needs.

3. They only think of wedding their dream man as the best achievement.

4. They have extremely lazy and reason like coconut.

5. They read silly magazines, watch slow poke tv channels and hang out with un reasonable friends.

dany87:
That is certainly untrue. Men also discuss trivial topics, and please read our past posts. [s]On average, women are less educated for cultural and social reasons, [/s] so it's easy to see why they would talk about appearance, since they were not allowed to have a propera education and need to marry someone who can maintain her. Read the last three or four pages instead of posting something at the last page please

I don't agree with this pls. Everybody have equal opportunity nowadays.

missclasssy:


Well, those radio programs I mentioned on my original post are hosted by ladies.
One in the day time and the other at night.

Using those shows to gauge your findings isn't really cool though..if you notice, you'd discover that they have some known voices (callers), its kinda rare to find new callers on both shows. seems they have fixed callers.

dany87:
That is certainly untrue. Men also discuss trivial topics, and please read our past posts. On average, women are less educated for cultural and social reasons, so it's easy to see why they would talk about appearance, since they were not allowed to have a propera education and need to marry someone who can maintain her. Read the last three or four pages instead of posting something at the last page please

How about in a university setting where everyone is given a free platform for education?