ECOTERRORS:
APC is known for illegality but baptised in legality so they just got served what they dish out. I don't feel sorry for them and why are you feeling SORRY for them?

I understand the plight for the APC but I have no sympathy for the party

patrickmuf:
One minute he's praising Saraki, next, he's castigating him and the APC...
Have you forgotten it's your PDP national assembly members that have got us into this mess?
You talk from both sides of your mouth, just so you have something to fall back upon in case of any eventuality...

helpee:
@ barcanista, I agree with you totally but I have a question....who is the party? how do political parties decide their choice of who will be the majority leader? Is it that once tinubu takes a decision and instruct oyegun to write a letter we take it to be the party's decision. While I agree with you that parties should decide the majority or minority leaders, we must know how parties come to such conclusion. If tinubu is as important as taking decision for the party, then Saraki. A former governor, the present senate president can also take decision for the party.

dearpreye:
The events of recent times have left a bittersweet taste for me.

Your point on APC riding to power through propaganda, subterfuge and treachery is so spot on. Unfortunately, these acts have their limits.

Admitted, I don't like the APC and everything it stands for, I still believe it's the masses that are suffering the most from the current shameful events happening in the national assembly of thieves, hooligans and touts.

On the one hand I'm grateful to Saraki and Dogara for limiting the powers of some internal cabals that would have constricted Nigeria like an anaconda would constrict a lesser beast. I'm grateful to them. The NASS is the house of Nigerians, not the APC or any other party for that matter.

Since the APC applauded and praised and hailed the treachery and double dealing of Tambuwal, the same shall continue to happen within its ranks. It's a law!

On the other hand, it's angers me when I witnessed the fighting that went on at that supposedly hallowed chamber. It's obvious we've not seen the kind of leaders that will move forward this nation.

gratiaeo:
Those who understand politics should be thanking Saraki/Dogara and their supporters for fighting for our interest in-order to deliver us from the cabal that is bend in putting PMB in his pocket. How can Tinubu single-handedly picked vice president Osinbajo, nominated Lawal as Senate president, Akume as deputy, his wife Remi as Senate leader, Gbajabiamila as speaker, prof Adeyeye as chief whip, Fashola as chief of staff? If all this aforementioned list work out as planned, then PMB government is in trouble.

Let’s join hands and support Sakari/Dogara for total liberation of the hallowed chambers from the cabal.

helpee:
@ barcanista, I agree with you totally but I have a question....who is the party? how do political parties decide their choice of who will be the majority leader? Is it that once tinubu takes a decision and instruct oyegun to write a letter we take it to be the party's decision. While I agree with you that parties should decide the majority or minority leaders, we must know how parties come to such conclusion. If tinubu is as important as taking decision for the party, then Saraki. A former governor, the present senate president can also take decision for the party.

barcanista:
I don't want to speak for APC but your question is pushing me to that. Well, the APC has National Working Committee led by the Chairman. This organ make decision on behalf of the party. For the nominees, the Chairman or Secretary acting on behalf of the party send the names to the Presiding officer of the parliament. The Presiding officer reads it and call for adoption or votes by the members of the caucus. The members MAY decide to go with the nomination or decide some other people depending on majority votes. The presiding officer has NOT a single right to suggest, tamper or nominate. If Tinubu has its members, it depends on majority of the House whether or not they wish to be aligned to the position. It isn't subject to the bias of Saraki/Dogara

barcanista:
Like I always say, we need to be very careful. In 2011 the APC interfered in PDP choice for Presiding officers and they got served with emergence of Dogara, Saraki and Ekeremadu in 2015. However, in all fairness the APC didn't interfere in the choice of Principal officers in 2011. Hon Mulikat Adeola was ratified as Majority leader, Hon Leo Ogor Deputy etc. What Saraki and Dogara are doing may come to haunt us someday. A new Speaker may rise up and say he is appointing the Minority leader and Whip. If you want to complain someone will remind you that you said nothing or you hailed Saraki when he moved to appoint the majority leader and whip.

The Majority leader/Whip are traditionally core party men because their positions are partisan. It is the Speaker/SP and their Deputies that there positions are meant to be non-partisan

helpee:
thanks for your explanation but I don't see where Saraki err here. You rightly said the house party members can decide to follow suit or not. Saraki played on the side of caution. He asked each zone where the party zoned the offices to nominate. He didn't nominate. The party should have directed each zone to nominate the party candidates. For them to nominate someone other than the party choices showed the members didn't rightly agree with the party position. So?

Edwardhead:
[size=15pt]saraki thinking he's smart, trying to form maradona, no problem, you're just shooting yourself on the leg... all these tricks have limit, ask babangida, he's smarter than you, with all his tricks, all befell him, he cant make it as democracy president[/size]


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UnknownT:
Does PDP have a hand in the ongoing principal officers selection crisis of the APC?

gratiaeo:
Those who understand politics should be thanking Saraki/Dogara and their supporters for fighting for our interest in-order to deliver us from the cabal that is bend in putting PMB in his pocket. How can Tinubu single-handedly picked vice president Osinbajo, nominated Lawal as Senate president, Akume as deputy, his wife Remi as Senate leader, Gbajabiamila as speaker, prof Adeyeye as chief whip, Fashola as chief of staff? If all this aforementioned list work out as planned, then PMB government is in trouble.

Let’s join hands and support Sakari/Dogara for total liberation of the hallowed chambers from the cabal.