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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:11pm On Jul 13, 2015
Greatihex:
wait o, na hazard u say dy waste possession? Guy, dia must b sumtin hazard did to ur team that u are nt telling us. Y are u using CL? What of dia respective league? Remember, Charity begins at home.

Performance in local league is always subjective since the leagues have varying difficulty. Some player would be scoring for fun in a local league and get to Europe and mess up.

If they ask you the best team in Europe I am sure you wouldnt mention the team who won a local league rather the team that won the CL

Alfonso Alves was scoring for fun in his local league

Champions League is the levelling point for all players and team. If you are sure of yourself come and prove it in the CL
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:13pm On Jul 13, 2015
hensben:
Even after explaining to you that hazard and neymar play in different formation and tactics you still come up with goals and assist..My frienemy you are ignorance about football, no offense. Nicolas Anelka played same position neymar is currently playing, he won epl golden boot, then chelsea was playing 4-3-3 formation.

So what do you want us to use to measure two attacking players?

Neymar has been more productive than Hazard as evidenced by his goals and assist but you want us to focus on dribble that doesnt lead to goals and assist?

WHats the use of senseless dribble and runs that lead to nothing
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:17pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:


Someone won World cup and Champions league final as one of the best players on the field you are comparing him with someone who won Carling Cup ? Carling cup? serious?

Tell us about Terrys performance in a real final. Not milk cup final No questions. CL finals WOrld cup finals or EUro finals is what make a great player not a cup thats even lower than FA cup

Terry can only pray, hope and dream to post that type of Boateng performance on a big stage
Paul scholes missed 1999 ucl final does that make him worthless in the team huh..Was boateng man of the match in those finals you mentioned? the answer is NO. I repeat boateng and terry nor be mate, na insult to terry self to dey compare am with boateng, even boateng go vex for you if him hear am because he know say them nor be mate in terms of age, defensive skills, goal at set piece and leadership. compare boateng to cahill abeg.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:20pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:


Someone won World cup and Champions league final as one of the best players on the field you are comparing him with someone who won Carling Cup ? Carling cup? serious?

Tell us about Terrys performance in a real final. Not milk cup final No questions. CL finals WOrld cup finals or EUro finals is what make a great player not a cup thats even lower than FA cup

Terry can only pray, hope and dream to post that type of Boateng performance on a big stage
wait o. They are nw being judged by appearances in finals nw abi. Nawao, sorry to say this, if this is hw u are in real life, i wonder the kind of friends u have. Men, dis is childish, grow up. U knw the facts yet u keep trying 2 sound smart with dis ur argument.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 5:33pm On Jul 13, 2015
Chestar5:
See wetin @bimffo comment cause, now every troll makes reference to d difference between shekpe and chelsea fans? Na wa oundecided

And which of my comment is that?? The one 'they' claim has 1 error..

Bravo! and You had to mention my moniker.. OK..

I will let you have the day.. smiley
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:39pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:


So what do you want us to use to measure two attacking players?

Neymar has been more productive than Hazard as evidenced by his goals and assist but you want us to focus on dribble that doesnt lead to goals and assist?

WHats the use of senseless dribble and runs that lead to nothing
Sentiment and ignorance na ur second n third name.. Ok! hazard is a LMF/winger in 4-2-3-1 formation while neymar is LWF/stiker in 4-3-3 formation. Reason most of neymar's goals last season were tap-in(2yards from goal)...The only way i can agree with you that hazard is flop at scoring goals is only when ribery scored zillion goals after been played as LMF/winger. I repeat, Hazard and neymar play in different formation and tactics for their team, remember this is a professional football.
Btw, hazard had more assist than neymar last season, why u dey lie.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:41pm On Jul 13, 2015
hensben:
Paul scholes missed 1999 ucl final does that make him worthless in the team huh..Was boateng man of the match in those finals you mentioned? the answer is NO. I repeat boateng and terry nor be mate, na insult to terry self to dey compare am with boateng, even boateng go vex for you if him hear am because he know say them nor be mate in terms of age, defensive skills, goal at set piece and leadership. compare boateng to cahill abeg.

Scholes featured in another final and did very well

Terry played only one final and ruined it, the other two he was missing that was why his team won

They are not agemates but Boateng has achieved more than John Terry. Below is what Guardian one of the best UK papers have to say about BoaTANK performance

Jérôme Boateng 9

Made a vital clearance after a surging run from Messi and was always quick to snuff out danger. Quick, calm and authoritative, his displays in Brazil have been a revelation and he was man of the match

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/13/germany-argentina-brazil-2014-worlds-cup-final-player-ratings

Got better as the match progressed. Made a number of important tackles and clearances after initially being troubled by the pace of the Argentine counter-attacks. The Bayern centre-back was dominant and was Germany's star performer. Man of the match.
Rio Ferdinand's view: "Boateng was immense today."

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28286068

Guardian and BBC. SHow me a performance from Terry in his WHOLE CAREER at a big stage that rivals this
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chestar5(f): 5:41pm On Jul 13, 2015
Bimffo:

And which of my comment is that?? The one 'they' claim has 1 error..
Bravo! and You had to mention my moniker.. OK..
I will let you have the day.. smiley


Dont b offended otongue
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:44pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:


Performance in local league is always subjective since the leagues have varying difficulty. Some player would be scoring for fun in a local league and get to Europe and mess up.

If they ask you the best team in Europe I am sure you wouldnt mention the team who won a local league rather the team that won the CL

Alfonso Alves was scoring for fun in his local league

Champions League is the levelling point for all players and team. If you are sure of yourself come and prove it in the CL
You are ignorance i swear, UCL is a knock-out tournament so anything can happen unlike league games.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:45pm On Jul 13, 2015
hensben:
Sentiment and ignorance na ur second n third name.. Ok! hazard is a LMF/winger in 4-2-3-1 formation while neymar is LWF/stiker in 4-3-3 formation. Reason most of neymar's goals last season were tap-in(2yards from goal)...The only way i can agree with you that hazard is flop at scoring goals is only when ribery scored zillion goals after been played as LMF/winger. I repeat, Hazard and neymar play in different formation and tactics for their team, remember this is a professional football.
Btw, hazard had more assist than neymar last season, why u dey lie.

Hazard played 400more minutes than Neymar

Thats like 4 more full games and only has 2 more assists while Neymar scored like 25 more goals than Hazard did

You see that Hazard is nowhere near Neymar

ANd Ribery regularly posts 20+ assists per season. How can anyone compare that to the failure called Hazard
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:48pm On Jul 13, 2015
hensben:
You are ignorance i swear, UCL is a knock-out tournament so anything can happen unlike league games.

League is a local competition. Barca won the league Celtic won the league, Chelsea won a league PSV won a league

Are they all equal? How do you know which team is superior? Thats the essence of the champions league

CL performance are vastly superior to league performance. No one would rank you for awards based on league performance
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 5:48pm On Jul 13, 2015
Chestar5:

Dont b offended otongue
Actually I am.. But its a social network. You got no face I can punch..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chestar5(f): 5:50pm On Jul 13, 2015
Bimffo:


Actually I am.. But its a social network. You got no face I can punch..


lol....zzz
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:51pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:


Scholes featured in another final and did very well

Terry played only one final and ruined it, the other two he was missing that was why his team won

They are not agemates but Boateng has achieved more than John Terry. Below is what Guardian one of the best UK papers have to say about BoaTANK performance





Guardian and BBC. SHow me a performance from Terry in his WHOLE CAREER at a big stage that rivals this
So you are using two games to judge a player, even the worst player in game of football have had one or two good games at a point in his career. Mr. your point is baseless. As far as your team won sport analyst must have something good to talk about each an every players that played that day so nothing new here. Reason its called team sport.

I don ignore you completely, i can see that you lack football understanding or maybe you are a troll.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:51pm On Jul 13, 2015
Greatihex:
wait o. They are nw being judged by appearances in finals nw abi. Nawao, sorry to say this, if this is hw u are in real life, i wonder the kind of friends u have. Men, dis is childish, grow up. U knw the facts yet u keep trying 2 sound smart with dis ur argument.

This is one of the morronic shekpe fans we talk about. Make your point and back it up with facts and stats you cant.

Whats your own business with how I am in real life? And how does it help your morronic existence?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:52pm On Jul 13, 2015
hensben:
So you are using two games to judge a player, even the worst player in game of football have had one or two good games at a point in his career. Mr. your point is baseless. As far as your team won sport analyst must have something good to talk about every players that played that day so nothing new here. Reason its called team sport.

How come every German player wasnt given 9 ? How come Kroos Howedes etc got a 6 and 7 by both guardian and BBC? yet Boateng got a 9 from both. why didnt the analyst have something good to talk about them?

If yur best game is in a world cup final or a CL final then you are king compared to someone like a failed John Terry whose team wins whenever he is out

If you want tom win a trophy, get Terry as far as possible from the field
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:55pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:


If yur best game is in a world cup final or a CL final then you are king compared to someone like a failed John Terry whose team wins whenever he is out

If you want tom win a trophy, get Terry as far as possible from the field
Make i ignore you completely, you nor get talk.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:57pm On Jul 13, 2015
hensben:
Make i ignore you completely, you nor get talk.

Let Terry come up with evidence that he is better

Boateng has a CL final and world cup final to point to. Terry according to you has a Carling cup final
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:20pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:


So what do you want us to use to measure two attacking players?

Neymar has been more productive than Hazard as evidenced by his goals and assist but you want us to focus on dribble that doesnt lead to goals and assist?

WHats the use of senseless dribble and runs that lead to nothing
Since Neymar has more goals and assists than all Bayern's attacker this season, including Robben and Ribery, is he better than them and makes them all failures??
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Yustash001(m): 6:25pm On Jul 13, 2015
So player are now rate based on the number of times they've appeared in great finals...not with general individual performance and achievement eh....am baffled...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:32pm On Jul 13, 2015
jimmy4x:
Since Neymar has more goals and assists than all Bayern's attacker this season, including Robben and Ribery, is he better than them and makes them all failures??

Another retardded analogy

Comparing Neymar with players who were injured.

And BTW Neymar is better than all our attackers in Bayern currently.

Neymar would most likely end up 3-5 in europe for his performance last season I doubt any Bayern attacker would make top 3-5
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:33pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:


Performance in local league is always subjective since the leagues have varying difficulty. Some player would be scoring for fun in a local league and get to Europe and mess up.

If they ask you the best team in Europe I am sure you wouldnt mention the team who won a local league rather the team that won the CL

Alfonso Alves was scoring for fun in his local league

Champions League is the levelling point for all players and team. If you are sure of yourself come and prove it in the CL

raumdeuter:


Hazard played 400 more minutes than Neymar

Hazard 19 goals 14 assists

Neymar 39 goals 11 assists


Its a worldwide known fact that its the base people in the society that support Chelsea save for one or two exceptions. On Nairaland we have over 100 Chelsea fans and only 3 make sense

@ the bolded, stop contradicting yourself jor.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:34pm On Jul 13, 2015
Yustash001:
So player are now rate based on the number of times they've appeared in great finals...not with general individual performance and achievement eh....am baffled...

Performance and achievement Boateng schools Terry like everyday

CL winner who actually played the game, World cup winner with a MOTM performance

None of these Terry has achieved

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:35pm On Jul 13, 2015
jimmy4x:



@ the bolded, stop contradicting yourself jor.

WHats the contradiction there.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:40pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:


Another retardded analogy

Comparing Neymar with players who were injured.

And BTW Neymar is better than all our attackers in Bayern currently.

Neymar would most likely end up 3-5 in europe for his performance last season I doubt any Bayern attacker would make top 3-5
Wait, I need to understand you.better, are you saying Neymar is better than Hazard and all your attackers just for. this season alone or even beyond this season.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Yustash001(m): 6:41pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:


Performance and achievement Boateng schools Terry like everyday

CL winner who actually played the game, World cup winner with a MOTM performance

None of these Terry has achieved
what of the number of time they made FIFA 1st eleven players?..I can never agree that Boateng is better than Terry just because he won World cup which Terry never won....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:45pm On Jul 13, 2015
Yustash001:
So player are now rate based on the number of times they've appeared in great finals...not with general individual performance and achievement eh....am baffled...
My brother as in i weak. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:48pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:

WHats the contradiction there.
I don't expect you to spot it
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:49pm On Jul 13, 2015
jimmy4x:

Wait, I need to understand you.better, are you saying Neymar is better than Hazard and all your attackers just for. this season alone or even beyond this season.

Nefore last season Neymar isnt any better than Robben or Ribery but Neymar in young and improving while Robben and Ribery are old and declining

For player is age

Neymar is better than Gotze

For Hazard, Neymar has always been better than Hazard from time immemorial and that doesnt look likely to change given the path Hazard is following
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:49pm On Jul 13, 2015
Yustash001:
what of the number of time they made FIFA 1st eleven players?..I can never agree that Boateng is better than Terry just because he won World cup which Terry never won....
It's just like saying Gotze is better than Messi for scoring the decisive goal in the world cup final....fooolish analogy by a blind Raumdeuter.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:52pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:


Nefore last season Neymar isnt any better than Robben or Ribery but Neymar in young and improving while Robben and Ribery are old and declining

For player is age

Neymar is better than Gotze

For Hazard, Neymar has always been better than Hazard from time immemorial and that doesnt look likely to change given the path Hazard is following
What makes Robben and Ribery better than Neymar before last season.?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:54pm On Jul 13, 2015
Yustash001:
what of the number of time they made FIFA 1st eleven players?..I can never agree that Boateng is better than Terry just because he won World cup which Terry never won....

CL title as a major player, world cup as a major player. None of these terry can point to

The CL Chelsea won, Terry actually let his team down and got a red card but his team won regardless to show how useless Terry is.

Boateng on the other hand one of the best players in a world cup final, Same with a good performance in a CL final which contrasts Terrys shambolic performance

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