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Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by sweetgala(m): 10:00am On Jul 20, 2015 |
presher: If only you went to school when your father asked you to it's waste not waist; foolish guy 1 Like |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by Kagawash07: 10:00am On Jul 20, 2015 |
backtosender:Why don't you pick an history book to read for a start or gather the article Zik wrote on the civil war? Brainless bimbo! |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by Kagawash07: 10:15am On Jul 20, 2015 |
vicenzo:Eediot, I think you're behind time or brain dead to think Ironsi wasn't the one that destroy our true federalism! That fool, Ironsi didn't only destroy our regionalism but had the stup!d audacity to appoint his foolish ibo kinsmen to be governing all regions after the murder of Balewa, Ahmadu Bello, Akintola et al. Eediot, tell me what business does that fool, Ojukwu has, governing the northern region after the murder of Ahmadu Bello by ibo coup? The hausas were even too slow with their progrom! Bunch of dishonest revisionists! 1 Like |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by iwatch: 10:16am On Jul 20, 2015 |
vicenzo:lol... What i see is mere speculations. What are the plans, blueprints on ground to ascertain the possibility of your claims? To the best of my knowledge, non exist. Even in the bible, the isrealite saw signs that God was with them before they embarked on Journey. Only a fool will discard certainty for uncertainty. If truly it 'wil' be as you postulated, by now the east would have been far ahead of other regions. That utopia only exist in cranials of dreamers. You don't need to disintegrate before you progress. Go to Imo nothing. Anambra, the so called japan of africa, nothing... Abia worse. With the sort of news emanating from Imo and Ania, is this how the imaginary utopia of biafra will be ran or are these states mentioned ruled by a yoruba or hausa man in place of ignos as governors? If I were the bastard called Nnamdi Kanu, I would rather solicit for funds to be used to develop the east instead buying arms and ammunitions so as to become the dubai of current world in the future so that when we decide to go our ways, the world will node and say yes, they deserve it. Nothing of that sort. Hey... Don't feed me the 'we need to disintegrate before we develop that's blatant rubbbish and an excuse. You guys clamouring for biafra ars so disorganize. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 10:37am On Jul 20, 2015 |
Kagawash07: Mugu. We survived the progrom, and we are still standing tall. Awo the power hungry ewedu eater whose power lust ultimately led him to suicide, was the same person who was there when Gowon dissolved the regions,and created anomalies called states probably it was his( Awo) idea, just like his evil starvation policy. And yet you want us to believe the Yorubas wanted regionalism? Lol! You were too blinded! by your greed to partake in the Eastern region oil wealth that you quickly aided Gowon to dissolve the regions, and created land use decree act. But never mind, it was the Nzeogwu and Ironsi that arose from the grave and pushed you lots into state creation and land decree act. Ndi ara! |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 10:41am On Jul 20, 2015 |
iwatch: You must be living under the rock not to have known that SE is the most advanced part of Nigeria in terms of human resources and human development. https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-attainment https://www.nairaland.com/237534/look-going-school-nigeria-statistics 1 Like |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 10:46am On Jul 20, 2015 |
The war aim and (final) solution properly speaking of the entire problem, is to discriminate against the Igbos and in their own interest. Such discrimination would include above all the detachment of those oil-rich territories in the Eastern Region, in addition, the Igbos' freedom of movement would be restricted, to prevent their renewed penetration into other parts, leaving any access to the sea to the Igbos, is quite out of the question, "(Federal Nigerian Minister speaking to E. C. Schwarzenback, Swiss Review of Africa, February 1968). We achieved all those despite existing in a country with such an evil policy against us enshrined as part of its DNA. Against all odds, we are ahead. Think of what we can achieve without such evil policies and mechanizations against us. It's truly limitless what we can achieve in Biafra free of the negative influences and draw backs of the Arewa Odua. Now, you know why the shout and clamour for Biafra will never end, as long as the Igbo continue to exist. |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by destinysaid(m): 10:50am On Jul 20, 2015 |
vicenzo:you decided to ignore all in d post and go straight to the idea that youl create lots of phyno etc in biafra....... you didnt even want to hear the message behind d post............ tell me now why phyno, don jazzy, p square and the lot are seeminly not bothered bout biafra .......... look guy, you are a human being first, your duties are to yourself, your immediate family, your loved ones ....... i would not do anytin for d sake of a so called ''tribe'' if it will brings destruction to em. the phyno and all igbo celebrities will not and cannot lose their hard earned money, and resources just cause of a tribe, guy use your head, a person who has food on his table will not be thinking of how a group wants to secede from NG, the same NG you say is destroying the Igbo race, is the same NG that some Igbos will thank God for having..... due to the successful life theve gotten from it.......... Phyno, Don jazzy ,Ill bliss ,P-square, Amaechi, Rochas, Orji , Emeka ofor , Innoson , Ifeanyi Uba , Obi mikel, Uche Okechukwu, Jay JAy Okocha, Nwankwo Kanu , Stephan Keshi, Yemi Alade, Kcee , Iyanya, Flavour, Chidinma, genevieve nnaji, rita dominic , tonto dikeh, Osita Iheme, Uche(BBA guy), Ngozi Iweala, Chukwuma Soludo, Micheal okpara , peter obi, Christine Ohuruogu, etc, these are some of the igbo ppl thatr NG has elevated, and u come here saying igbos hv been marginalised, just cause una no too dey politics no mean say una go dey shout breakup , I agree NG na zoo ........ lets all work to put the zoo in order and turn it into a utopia .............. by d way according to d news, amachi na new BFF of buhari, seeing as tinubu no smell america and amachi and rochas dey flex presidential welcome ....... amaechi according to d news is 'an important part of the discussions'' 3 Likes |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by backtosender: 10:54am On Jul 20, 2015 |
destinysaid:Put zoo in order a fool at 40 is a fool for ever the zoo cannot get better the foundation was made with lies |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by iwatch: 10:55am On Jul 20, 2015 |
vicenzo:I will take a look when I am on PC but you seem not to understand my point from the look of the links you gave in comparison to what you postulated would be the benefits of joining biafra.. I will explain |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by Kagawash07: 10:58am On Jul 20, 2015 |
vicenzo:Eediot, that fool, Ironsi already destroyed our regionalism before Gowon took power and you are talking of states creation? Do you eediots even know the meaning of regionalism at all? What a dunce I've been discussing with! You mean before the state creation, an ondo man doesn't know he's an ondo man or kaduna man doesn't know he's a kaduna man? What a goat! Inshort, Gowon only created states to undo the evil that fool, Ironsi made but it was too late! And whether you hit that empty flat head of yours on the wall, it doesn't change the fact that Awolowo's doctor report stated he died of a heart related disease at 78yrs, same age with that fool, Ojukwu who died without archieving anything! |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by destinysaid(m): 11:04am On Jul 20, 2015 |
backtosender:you keep avoiding the main point of posts, I'm of the opinion that if SE wants out they are free and should nt be opposed but...... if you arnt a coward answer d questions already ....... Y arnt you guys calling on d clearly igbo ppl I mentioned above to support biafra, these are ppl who are rich enough to supply all d ammunitions needed for war, I don't support war though, answer, when will d call start, ........... I think its all down to perspective, dey say d rich wil get richer, d poor,poorer, u see NG as an evil oppressive regime, they see NG as an open society whr if u take d opportunity, u can b successful. Use ur head, forgo this online chestbeating and move on and be successful. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by papaejima1: 11:04am On Jul 20, 2015 |
AshiwajuFoward:Can you tell us what Awolowo told Gowon the SW will do if he allows the SE to secede? If you can, then you have ur answer |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by destinysaid(m): 11:09am On Jul 20, 2015 |
Kagawash07:this one u guys are arguing self, so NG should nt hv been seperated into states?? Which country in d world isn't divided by state lines? Even by 1970 standards NG would hv been a slowpoke without d states being created, d romans and greeks that I bliv created boundries were not dumb, I can't claim whr I don't belong, if states wernt created, we would be using tins like trees, and forest to mark boundaries, easy for anybody to do evil.... So u guys should kill dis ironsi dis, jakende that, gowon whatever matter |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by backtosender: 11:10am On Jul 20, 2015 |
destinysaid:how much do u think p square,phyno,don jazzy get compare to numerous billionaires in igboland?their wealth is not big enough dont worry about biafra.... worry about oduduwa kingdom biafrans are the wealthiest people in nigeria/africa per capital |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by destinysaid(m): 11:12am On Jul 20, 2015 |
papaejima1:You urself can't answer that, you wernt there wen they discussed, so stop acting like you know, yes bck in those days there was a general notion that since the igbos re going, y don't d yorubas too (according to ma dad) but no official announcement were made to d public....... In truth, most tins bout d. History of NG has been twisted by different individuals to fit their evil schemes. |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by Kagawash07: 11:18am On Jul 20, 2015 |
vicenzo:Dumbass, why don't you ask how the figure was accumulated? It was got by asking the citizen question which I can bet on my fore father grave that every ibos' answer to the question is a lie! Ibo and lies, very synonymous! Bunch of dishonest people! |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by destinysaid(m): 11:19am On Jul 20, 2015 |
backtosender: 1) Don't assume every1 is from SW, that attitude will only serve to drive a wedge between oda tribes n d igbos..... "Like do they tink cause in nt igbo, I must be hausa or yoruba" << this kind of thinking 2)While I admire your statement, I wonder if d combined wealth of 10+ celeb, 4 former n present govs and 1 forbes list holder is truly not enough.... And answer d question, if not you will be exposed as a hate spreader ......... USE YOUR HEAD,4get bout tribal bigotry and move on and live a successful life, b d next dangote self |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by papaejima1: 11:21am On Jul 20, 2015 |
destinysaid:Something you have to understand is that Biafra really doesn't need all of the above to succeed! All that it requires to put them to flight is one artillery barrage and they all hop on the next flight overseas. Biafra will actually be funded by biafrans inside Nigeria and overseas doing casual things to the surprise of many. However, let's pray we don't go down the lane of war because in this era of drone technology, no part of Nigeria will be spared the carnarge. Armed drones or recreational drones loaded with explosives will hit several parts of the nation and indiscriminately too. That is a scary proposition. People always glancing up apprehensively not knowing where the next explosive laden drone or missile will drop from. Won't be funny for all sides at all. |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by destinysaid(m): 11:23am On Jul 20, 2015 |
Kagawash07:guy there is a tin such as feeding d trolls, giving him what he wants so he can say he has "evidence". Of yoruba persecuting him, the human mind gives us reason why our current train of thought is right, even when overwelming evidence is present, the human brain prefers denial than accepting d truth, its a self defence mechanism that humans hv .... Mostly used to defend our ego. |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by Kagawash07: 11:26am On Jul 20, 2015 |
destinysaid:The annoying thing is how this eediots distort fact and twist history to suit them! Who doesn't know that fool, ironsi destroyed our true federalism? Bunch of revisionists! |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by AshiwajuFoward: 11:26am On Jul 20, 2015 |
papaejima1: You people are insufferable. In response, I'll paste here Awolowo's famous speech in response to the Midwest Invasion on August 12th, 1967. You people should leave the Yorubas out of your Biafra agitation. I repeat that our destinies are not intertwined.
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Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by destinysaid(m): 11:32am On Jul 20, 2015 |
papaejima1:you assume its 'easy' to get d drones you speak of, if biafra should get weapons to do maximum damage, what do you think stops d NG govt from doing same?? D west will support NOBODY but those they can benefit from, as long as corrupt leaders are here, let's face d facts, as long as USA n BRItain can make money from NG, they won't involve demselves, if kanu has contacts, so does buhari n co....... Russia, isreal, china, at d end of d day don't expect drones, just expect a few rifles. Except kanu has SERIOUS Political relevance on d league of Ojukwu (respect!) Or above, no serious weapon will fall on his hand, Boko n isis hv their muslim brothers worldwide donating, What do you hv, even 2 billion naira cannot buy drone o. |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by AshiwajuFoward: 11:33am On Jul 20, 2015 |
Up until the Mid-West invasion (and subsequent botched invasion of Lagos/SW by the Biafrans), the SW was prettymuch undecided on whom to support or whose side to take. But the invasion/coup made it clear to the Yorubas the sinister intentions of the Biafrans which was manifested in their decision to invade our lands. From thereon we took our destinies in our own hands. Again I repeat, our destinies are not intertwined. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by iwatch: 11:51am On Jul 20, 2015 |
destinysaid:My brother, may God bless you for pointing that out. They keep dodging the main questions thrown at them. So many questions left unanswered. |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by disumusa: 12:10pm On Jul 20, 2015 |
Cchuks27:warn your ibo brother, yorubas are naturaly unprovocative and insultive in nature but could be defenceive and protective. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by HopeAtHand: 12:45pm On Jul 20, 2015 |
vicenzo: It is unnecessary to start this argument.a system was in place and Igbos derailed it.read ur history books with a clear open mind. Let me inform you that i don't care if Igbos get biafra or not..they are not my people and so their wellbeing is not rily my concern..my concern is when Igbos decide to tag Ikwerres along.. FYI, Nigeria offers Igbos alot more compared to what their 5 igbo states + anioma can offer..learn to navigate Nigeria and exploit the system...but if ure planning to leave, prepare to fight again, and yet again, alone. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by disumusa: 12:48pm On Jul 20, 2015 |
AshiwajuFoward:my brother,the ibo intrest from the genesis is to hijack the power and surpress,oppres other tribe.to them they are wise than any tribe in africa, but to God be the glory they became least,last as a result of praud and agradisment,hatered.i.e zik was calling himself zik of africa, ironsi was carying corocodie up and down. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by ArodewilliamsT: 2:11pm On Jul 20, 2015 |
azzima: This Adewale man you never change from tribalism¿. I will soon make you disappear from here. Continuu, just continuee 07059155*** |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 2:30pm On Jul 20, 2015 |
HopeAtHand: Lol! And you think Ndiigbo care about your useless Ikwerre? You lots are of no significance to the Igbo nation, you have little or no human resources, no one gives a rat about Ikwerres, infact I don't even know how and why you ended up dragging the Ikwerres into this thread. For your info, Igbos offer more to Nigeria than Nigeria could ever offer us, we know this, that's why we are eager to dump Nigeria. If it were the other way round, you won't be hearing a drop about Biafra. Stats show that Ndiigbo had made the most out of Nigeria more than any other Nigerian group including your insignificant Ikwerre lol, despite anti Igbo policies of this union, and it's on that basis that we know for certain that we are better off without Nigeria. Chew on that. You are a jellyfish. A system was in place, I tried to remove it, you killed me for doing that, and accused me of being greedy, but you ended up using that same system and even adopted more things to make the system more evil. But in your cholesterol clogged brain cells, it is my fault that you adopted and went on to corrupt the system, I am greedy, but you holy one choose and adopted a supposedly greedy system. You now see why Nnamdi call the country and it's occupants Zoo and animals? Your reasoning capacity is almost zero. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by HopeAtHand: 2:42pm On Jul 20, 2015 |
vicenzo:[/s] You are not mentally stable..when you are, i'd consider having an arguement with you. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Is The South West Not Clamoring For Secession? by vicenzo(m): 2:43pm On Jul 20, 2015 |
Kagawash07: Mpama, Ironsi never dissolved the regions, he merely united the civil service. It was Gowon and Awo greed to partake in the Eastern region oil wealth that drove them into creation of anomalies called states, while totally dis regarding the Wilkins report demand of Eastern minorities. It was the creation of Gowon and Awo dysfunctional states as conduits to siphon Eastern oil wealth that instigated the mad rush by subsequent Odua-Arewa rulers to continue creating more dysfunction non viable states up North, and to sustain such states, the crude wealth of the Eastern minorities were taken from them by a dubious decree that turned their lands into free for all lands. Your Awo and Gowon greed created states that was the genesis of expensive governance we are having today, they paved way for land use decree that was needed to finance non viable states up North and then as more and more non Viable states were created, more and more of Eastern minorities oil wealth was needed to finance them, so the derivation formula for them kept shrinking and shrinking until it was almost zero. But guess whose fault it is? Nzeogwu and Ironsi according to SW people. Lol! |
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