3strike:



Euromillion,


Am very sorry for taking Brabus's side against you few months ago. I know better now bro. I got wrapped up in the packaging things. The veil is off my eyes now.


3strikes!

3strike:


Euromillion,

Am very sorry for taking Brabus's side against you few months ago. I know better now bro. I got wrapped up in the packaging things. The veil is off my eyes now.

3strikes!

3strike:



Euromillion,


Am very sorry for taking Brabus's side against you few months ago. I know better now bro. I got wrapped up in the packaging things. The veil is off my eyes now.


3strikes!

brag3:


So according to you, it was unprofessional but not wrong? so this is the way of life here.
I salute you for your insight.

tony9k:



Brag3.

I beg your pardon. I did not condone it. I only stated that it was unprofessional but is what is applicable in Nigeria. Of course it is wrong. My position is that in the nigerian environment it is not unexpected. I understand your frustration but just maybe if the temptation did not come from your sibling, it might have been a different story; that however a a big maybe.

brag3:


Totally understand. Your post stated it was unprofessional, Did not see anywhere you said it was wrong so assumed it was right in your eyes. Apologise for that assumption. you are also making a big assumption that the temptation came from my sibling. Is it impossible to Fathom that the temptation came from Brabus and my sister went along for her own gain?
We will never know but we move on and learn.

Thanks

EgunMogaji:


Yes. Yes it is.

brag3:


Sorry you lost me. I don't think I understand your response. Please can you elaborate?

EgunMogaji:


I understand.

My response is in response to this question. "Is it impossible to Fathom that the temptation came from Brabus and my sister went along for her own gain?'

After listening to ALL the surreptitious recordings (no hearsay, no other salacious evidences considered) then yes it is impossible for me to fathom that your Sister was baited into this unfortunate scheme. I believe that she orchestrated the con and Brabus went along since this is customary in Nigeria (not saying I support it or it's right for Gods sakes). What business man will willingly offer N5m away?

I could be totally wrong but I'm still qualified to serve as a jury of your peers and my opinion is valid in a court of law.

EgunMogaji:

I believe that she orchestrated the con and Brabus went along since this is customary in Nigeria (not saying I support it or it's right for Gods sakes). What business man will willingly offer N5m away?
I could be totally wrong but I'm still qualified to serve as a jury of your peers and my opinion is valid in a court of law.

mufutau55:


And one point everyone keep forgetting is that, it still the Brother's money being stolen not Brabus money. Brabus did not lose anything monetarily but his integrity. The Big brother in UK is the total LOOSER (Victim) in all this... he has been conned, scammed and defrauded. BAD BUSINESS OVERALL from both angle.

Hajji M.

brag3:


Sorry you lost me again. Sorry I am very slow at the uptake so please excuse me.

What do you mean by this?

Wasn't the money wired from UK to Nigeria on a fraudulent basis? Is that something that could have forceable been reported to UK law enforcement units?

EgunMogaji:


1) Did Brabus send the quote to your Brother in UK? The false flag N24m quote.

2) Did part, doesn't have to be all, of the payment for that fraudulent quote come from the UK?

3) Could your Brother alert UK authorities that he sent money to Brabus based on fraudulent claim?

4) Could UK authorities then list NextHome (sp) as a scam organization? Or worse open a BOLO for Brabus himself as the owner if he ever enters UK or steps foot on UK embassy grounds?

Not saying that this should or could happen, I know your family has moved on, but I am just thinking out loud.

I know that your eyes are in front and everything but this thread is serving as a lesson to ALL of us participants on NL property section. Your family lost some money but it could have easily been any of us here, especially in diaspora.

adeekiti:
This is getting outta hand and I think we should just let resolve the issue and move on without throwing words at each other, its just like a thief who snatched a bag and was caught in the process and he said he stole because someone robbed him too, because the sister initiated the fraud doesn't mean u should be involve in it, we should all try to read and understand brag3's post, he was duped too cos he has his own money in the project, what I'm still surprise about is Brabus not going to appeal and appologize, is he not feeling guilty about all the accusations, even if u are at not guilty just accept and appeal to end dis commotions here . Brabus do the needful I'm sure that will go a long way to solve issues here than allowing people to throw words at each other

brag3:



1) Did Brabus send the quote to your Brother in UK? The false flag N24m quote. - Quote was sent to my brother and I (via my sister) so however you choose to intepret this will be interesting

2) Did part, doesn't have to be all, of the payment for that fraudulent quote come from the UK? Yes, a fair amount came from UK

3) Could your Brother alert UK authorities that he sent money to Brabus based on fraudulent claim? My brother you and I know this can't really happen. it's not as simple as this. Money gets transfered into his own account in Nigeria and from this account payment was then made to Brabus. it was agreed one account will be used for this project for transparency and accounting purposes.

4) Could UK authorities then list NextHome (sp) as a scam organization? Or worse open a BOLO for Brabus himself as the owner if he ever enters UK or steps foot on UK embassy grounds? I doubt it.

Just to make things clear. 5M was not lost ooo. This was the amount that willl have been lost had Brabus complete the project.

The amount lost based on the stages completed came to about 1.3M so we thank God.

EgunMogaji:


1) I don't interpret I just respond based on evidence. So the quote never came from Brabus to your UK Brother directly.

2) This is good evidence.

3) It can't happen but ONLY because UK funds did not go to Brabus directly but via a Nigerian bank.

4) Excellent. It can't happen anyways now that I know that there is no direct trail from UK to Brabus account.

N1.3m was actually not technically lost since your Sister, a co stakeholder, has it. But the amount is duly noted nevertheless.

brag3:



Thank you. Burt it was definitely lost and while we are on the subject.
You seem to assume that Brabus has made the payment to my sister.

She has claimed that Brabus has not made the payment to her.
Whichever 1.3M was lost - Fact. No technicalities here but Like I said its only money.

God always replinishes clean hands.

brabus:


@brag3,

You seem to assume that Brabus collude with your sister to rip you off. Do you need some proofs? Instant one.

I'm sure you know you never asked me to pay any sum of money to her account during the phase of construction.

brabus:
Even with all the antics of she supplying cement at the very beginning of the project so that all payment for the cement will go directly to her. Aren't you aware of this?

brag3:


@Brabus,
You did collude with her. Thats a fact. The question is who instigated the collusion but the fact is that from your own admittance you did collude wit her. and if you are now trying to show me proof of this collusion then you are still admitting it so don't see the point here.

Yes, I never asked you to pay any money to her account so if u did so it could be:

a) you did some business with her and you are paying for it (which I have heard)
or

So I heard and what are those business I did with your sister if I may ask? I told her to tell me what business I did with her that I haven't paid. When dealing with your sister, one needs extra caution. Since she's not here, can I know what I bought that I haven't paid for and when. I have proof for everything. She doesn't. She can only cook up stories

b) this is the kickback payment. But you seem to be defending her that she didn't receive one.

so what exactly are you trying to proof here.

Please lets concentrate on the premiership season and let this matter rest.

whatever money was lost has already been replinished Bro.

We have moved on. when God calls us back we wont take any of it with us so lets just leave good deeds behind.

brag3:


Bro this is where you fall flat on the whole case?
Yes I am fully aware of this and do you know why?

If you did you wont even bring this up.

I can see that you are clutching at straws here but let it go.

If you are not guilty then no wahala.

let's leave it all to our conscience

brabus:


That's the reason she went the other way because she knew I'm not going to give in to the cement supply arrangement. The 19m contract is good enough for me. That's when she presented you the 24m quote.

If I may ask, what's the reason why she didn't supply all the cement again? She lost interest? Got busy? Or it's not profitable?

EgunMogaji:


You have an option not to participate on the thread anymore. There are other threads in the section.

Just a thought.

mufutau55:
@Brag3
I did not call your Brother in UK because you said you are moving on, so I did not want to make the unhappy man more unhappy with my questions.
So, please you have proven your case here and everyone can see where the problem lies, and just abide by your brother's decision and move on.
"Everyday for a Thief, One day for the Owner". Whatever goes around will come around. That is why I didn't make more comments on this thread.

Hajji M.