ssaengine:


And out of all those countries with all their defence companies, certains people will still attempt to put us down, claim we are "stone last" "pathetic"....when they themselves are nowhere to be seen. Just look at the circles SA rolls in.

ssaengine:


Keep playing dum.b. Completely up to you. You've chosen not to answer the basic question about Denel, so no stress. Have fun.

Henry120:


You nag like a woman.

Henry120:


India, Pakistan, Brazil, Egypt major arms manufacturers aren't on the list. The amount in Arms indian and Pakistani militaries procure each year is more than the combined total of all weapons outputs of all countries in Africa.

That list isn't a true reflection of total arms traded.

ssaengine:


India "exports" arms to India? Pakistan "exports" arms to Pakistan? I never knew, thanks for educating me.

Henry120:


Like i said, it isn't a true reflection of arms traded . I'm not talking exports.

Henry120:


-Yes it is.

- 100 companies were listed, of all Denel has the un-enviable honour of been placed last.

- of the 100 companies rated it came last. This is the indisputable fact.

We have no evidence to prove that if more companies are rated, it would score any better than last.

100 out of 100 = LAST!


You sell Casspirs, and units were sold to Uganda.

You are the MRAP nation.

Henry120:


"What double standards?".

100 companies rated, and you came last!

We don't claim to be weapons exporter, however, you do, and you were rated last!

FACT!

Henry120:


The South-African Industry makes most of it's revenue selling MRAPs. YES!

Henry120:


India, Pakistan, Brazil, Egypt major arms manufacturers aren't on the list. The amount in Arms indian and Pakistani militaries procure each year is more than the combined total of all weapons outputs of all countries in Africa.

That list isn't a true reflection of total arms traded.

Henry120:


Like i said, it isn't a true reflection of arms traded . I'm not talking exports.

ssaengine:


The link is talking exports. I am talking exports. You come in NOT talking exports. So now what must i do for you? Lol

patches689:


Are you illiterate?

Worlds TOP 100 Defense companies

So, of all the defense companies in the world it is among st the BEST 100

Thus it is ranked amongst the BEST companies in the world.

Last of the best is better than DICON

And yes, we sell casspirs... but you said the majority of our profits were from MRAPS. So, who are we selling to and in what numbers?

Top 20 world arms exporter

Denel is one of the 100 biggest and best defence companies in the world

Deal

With

It

patches689:

Read your post - double standards are apparent
Where is DICON on the list?

patches689:

Yes it is.
Deal
With
It

patches689:


But we are talking about Denel

you said Denel makes the majority of its profits off MRAPS

Prove it

Or,

I shall be forced to call you a liar.

Henry120:


You came LAST! Congratulations.

Henry120:


LMAO!!!

That list without india, Pakistan, Brazil isn't a true reflection of weapons traded. "Exports" only gives you a false sense of gratification.

You are ahead of Australia, buhahahahaha, a country entirely dependent on British and American companies. The only popular export product from Austrialia is the............................ You guessed right............ Bushmaster MRAP!

Henry120:


MRAPs constitute 85% of all South-African defence exports. This is an irrefutable fact.

Henry120:


You know you are guilty of this, hence your immediate retort to been defensive. Quite as$-licking it is just wrong!


Don't under-estimate Nigeria,i remember the comments from South-Africans when only a few years ago, we were the 3rd largest economy on the continent. Many poorly informed South-Africans claimed it would be 2030 before Nigeria would emerge the largest economy in Africa. However today, we run an economy which is over $524 billion and the 25th largest in the world, while that of South-Africa is barely above $330 billion.


The same scenario is playing out in Nigeria's Auto Industry, before 2013, Nigeria had barely 3 Companies afloat in the Auto sector. Today( 12 August,2015), there are over 23 Auto vehicle assemblers and car component parts manufacturers in Nigeria, with more coming in. We now even export APCs, something barely unheard of in 2014. Yet again, you South-Africans are fidgeting.


If you under-estimate a Nigerian in business, you would get severely burnt.


We might not be making "decent" MRAPs like you claim, but those "not decent" Armoured vehicles are already been exported. Again profits from of sales of the IKRI MRAP would go both to DCD and the Nigerian partner.

Is a Nigerian company going to catapult into the Top 100, I don't know, let us wait and see. The Nigerian interest in Defence related line of business is still very low, if interest pick up, you'll be foolish to not bet on us.



* for the Record, I'll pick the Igirigi over any South-African LAV, I'll also pick the Proforce MK2 and leopard over any South-African LAPV or Recon vehicle.

Henry120:


You are dead last in the list, for a country that has been in the business of arms for the past 60 years, that's not an achievement.

Brazil has not purchased any A-Darters.

Henry120:


Your mediocrity stinks to the high heavens. Denel placed last out of a 100 Defence companies evaluated. This is a fact!

There is no evidence whatsoever that DENEL would place higher than last place if more companies were rated.

Congrats, you came in last!

Henry120:


No double standards anywhere.

An evaluation was done, and you came out last. Straight and concise!

Henry120:


You came LAST! Congratulations.

Henry120:


MRAPs constitute 85% of all South-African defence exports. This is an irrefutable fact.

Henry120:





* for the Record, I'll pick the Igirigi over any South-African LAV, I'll also pick the Proforce MK2 and leopard over any South-African LAPV or Recon vehicle.

Henry120:


You came LAST! Congratulations.

Henry120:


When a Nigerian enters into any business line, sooner we begin to dominate that business. Watch out for our companies, we've already started exporting.

..... And eh.... Would you stop as$-licking Frum's as$ in the photo-sharing thread, it's becoming quite embarrassing.