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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brag3: 5:23pm On Aug 12, 2015
wytecat:
You are a thief and a liar, swear with your life that you haven't stolen a penny from this your brother's project? After all leaves don't fall far from the tree. If your sister could do it, you too can. You just had to demonize him to get your hands in. Lowlife scum.


What a fool. It's both our projects.
I am paying for this phase so how can I steal the money?
Can I steal from myself?
Ask Brabus who is paying for this phase.
It just goes to show that you are one sick delued asshole.
I am sure you are from another planet.
What a complete slowpoke.

Why dont you speak to Brabus first before using your mouth as a toilet
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brag3: 5:25pm On Aug 12, 2015
wytecat:
Your point is weak, and it's only you and your conscience that will answer to the higher one if you knew the truth but looking the other way. People like you only thrive in destruction. You had to push brabus out of the way to be in charge of the project, that's clear, so what?


It's my project you Arrow.
I am paying for this not my brother.
Come and see me on site and you will know.
Tbh I am sure you are just one mad man that has just been released from Prison.
How can I steal from myself.
Why don't you ask brabus for my brother's Number in UK and ask him who is paying for this phase.
Even Brabus knows this.
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brag3: 5:26pm On Aug 12, 2015
twinskenny:


lol this is funny.... guess u didnt read the whole episode. it is well

He is a deluded slowpoke who is full of crack.
This guy is from another planet.
How can I steal from myself?
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brag3: 5:28pm On Aug 12, 2015
brabus:


@wytecat,

Please kindly retract the statement above. You have no idea of whom you're talking to. brag3 is the lifeline of the project and I condemn such derogatory statements against him.

@brag3, my unreserved apologies for the defamatory comments of wytecat above. He's not acting on my behalf or that of NextHome.

Thank you!

Thank you Brabus. please explain this to this crack guy. He must be sniffing some coke as he types
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brag3: 5:31pm On Aug 12, 2015
brabus:


brag3 didn't push me out of the project. I opted out by myself. He offered me a good sum of money to supervise the stage of work, which he paid and I refunded back to him with an official email.


This is very accurate.
Brabush was offered money to continue which he politely declined for personal reasons.
It's all in the first message I posted here
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brag3: 5:34pm On Aug 12, 2015
wytecat:
What is the truth? And according to who? As I said, it's ok to defend him, but I'm going to say mine as I see it.

I'm out!

@wytecat,
I think the whole site agress that you must have a severe problem.
Whilst this is an open forum for all ideas one has to be constructive.
Sorry if I have insulted (take that with a pinch of sarcasm) but you really do need to go back to school.
Your IQ is way lower than my 4 year old son and that's even complementing you.
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Nobody: 8:08pm On Aug 12, 2015
brag3:


@wytecat,
I think the whole site agress that you must have a severe problem.
Whilst this is an open forum for all ideas one has to be constructive.
Sorry if I have insulted (take that with a pinch of sarcasm) but you really do need to go back to school.
Your IQ is way lower than my 4 year old son and that's even complementing you.




Am i missing something here? anyways am spreading my mat
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by vicmoore(m): 8:28pm On Aug 12, 2015
3strike:





Am i missing something here? anyways am spreading my mat

Lol....all this our oga slf
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by segcymoor(m): 8:35pm On Aug 12, 2015
wytecat:
What is the truth? And according to who? As I said, it's ok to defend him, but I'm going to say mine as I see it.

I'm out!
abeg who be this?
Oh! Now I knew u say na u.........frustrated element!.so they don give you courage that you are allowed to insult even ur senior on this thread
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by gabbytabby: 8:52pm On Aug 12, 2015
3strike:





Am i missing something here? anyways am spreading my mat

Somebody is definitely missing something. grin grin

Na to run comot before them comot rope wey them take tie am down

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 9:58pm On Aug 12, 2015
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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by semitunde: 1:29am On Aug 13, 2015
brabus:
Affordable Toilet Solution by Biofilcom

Nigeria is home to over 15 percent of the Africa's population that uses traditional septic tank sewage system. These sewages flows in open drains (soakaway), causing contamination of ground as well as river water. This has serious health implications and is consequently a big economic burden.



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- Compact in size
- Quick installation
- Zero maintenance
- No residual solids waste
- No foul smell
- Only water discharge
- No need for big Sewage treatment plants
- Mitigates pollution of underground and river water
- Solid residue can be easily used as manure
- No need for extra cost of cesspit emptying.


Prominent Customers of BioFil Toilet Digester

1. GTBank Branches (Chevron, Lagos Island, VI and more)
2. Secretariat Alausa
3. Residential dwellings in various part of Lagos.
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Does it not need evacuation at all? What area does it occupy? What is its capacity in terms of housing units for wastes it can handle?

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Jamesqu(m): 2:47am On Aug 13, 2015
@wytecat,

please, if you have project...try giving it to Nexthome?brabus/Bosun...then we know you are serious...
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 3:41am On Aug 13, 2015
semitunde:


Can you pls explain more about this.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by beedam(f): 4:11am On Aug 13, 2015
Onuokwu:

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@Bolded...I have never seen anyone so openly indict themselves...in other words you cannot be trusted. You can connive with third parties to extort money from your clients?

I am pained, Bosun. Please, please let this all be a dream!


**Sprinkles water on his face** bros, na reality. No be dream. grin

He is 5000% wrong on what he just said. Seems it's his way of conniving with third party because with the way he is bragging about it,he doesn't see giving a third party part of the money as a bad thing. To him it's a "compulsory " norm.

Oga brabus, reduce your talking so as to reduce the more bad way you paint yourself.
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by beedam(f): 4:17am On Aug 13, 2015
skimanski:
Oh Brabus!!!! Wish I had your number to privately call you! Its a horrible scene on this your thread these days. To see you been fired from all angles man. Worst of all you ain't helping your case. It's high Time you apologise to all those you have wronged and those you haven't wrong but are using the medium to hit you liked they have always wished man. After days without the fire dying out, don't you think Defending yourself further is doing you more harm than good? Guy take my advise please. Your Strength has turned out to be your greatest enemy. You have too much packaging skills that its clouding your ability to deliver. You have relied too much on your packaging, that's why you're still trying to package your way out. Bros abeg apologise, any one keeps on bringing new stories, just tell them sorry. Even if you're been accused wrongly Agree to them that maybe you weren't professional enough, but you are getting there. You are good at these, I see it in you, but you are focusing too much on the wrong side of you. Following what has been said a lot, you have good Customer packaging (Which I wish I had), but the field work is lacking. Guy you are focusing too much on that packaging. Throw it out the door and focus more on doing your Job. Its too counter Productive to your success. because its gives you many clients and many unhappy ones at the end. thereby denting your reputation. You need your reputation intact. or do you want to remain in this stage of your career for another 20 years. Take Inspiration from Cappa and D'Alberto. I remember, constain Plc, they had too much packaging at one point, and now they can even dine on same table Cappa and D'Alberto or Julius Berger Plc. Don't you want to be remembered for the Guy that Built the Civic Center, Shoprite in Lekki, Diamond Bank close to the Toll Gate, the all Great and Beautiful house of the CEO of FCMB Bank. These were all done by builders who started small and had focus on what was required to get to the promise land.

Bros Apologise, own up totally, and move on, and you will get to that Destination you set for yourself.





You have said well!

@ brabus, Apologise and stop too much talk. I ve told you from the beginning.

You can NEVER come out clean of this issue.

More talk from you,more problem you put yourself into!!!
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Nobody: 4:25am On Aug 13, 2015
Okay so here's a revelation that will shock you guys.

I will absolutely hires Brabus, if he'll accept me as a client. Please remember that Brag3 who was relieved of N1.7M still tried to rehire him.

The issue I can see here giving a contractor vast leeway with funds and control of a project.

Guys this is how you build a high dollar project.

You divide it into stages with each stage coming with an inspection before release of payment for the next stage.

Stage 1: Contracts are signed and money is released that will get the structure done to an agreed level at an agreed timeframe. Let's say german floor.

Stage 2: Independent inspector (we have them here in the US and I have used one before in Texas) will go onsite and verify that the terms of stage 1 contract has been completed. If not then default penalty terms per the signed agreements enter the fray.

Assuming things are well the next batch of funds are released for getting the structure to the next agreed level. Let's say walls and pillars for 2nd floor.

Stage 3: Independent inspector goes back on site to validate that the level has been reached (this person also inspects for codes to make sure that no short cuts are taken and is also contractually liable for approving an inspection that should have failed.

And so forth and so on.

What about buying materials in bulk to save money you ask? Any builder worth his salt should never used Pauls money to build Pauls house. Paul money should actually be going into a companies escrow account. There is as such as operating loan/operating funds that companies can access for on going concerns. That is if you're truly robust as projected. Spyder880 is developing estates from his own money, paying surveyors, etc before getting a penny from buyers. That's who it's done. You invest your own money in your company.

At the end of the project when the independent inspector and owners inspects the final product and take ownership they will pay the balance due.

Brabus should be able to do this. He has material handling truck, a showroom, etc

So yes I will definitely hire Brabus if he'll take my assignment but I can't afford him and he most likely wouldn't go for my system.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by beedam(f): 4:27am On Aug 13, 2015
brag3:


I really done get your point. Are you being paid by Brabus or are you Srupid or what?
I am paying for this project as well. Who do you think is payign for it now?
Do you think my brother in UK is paying for this phase?
What have I said that is a lie about Brabus? Was he not paid for this? Did he not collude with my Sister?
This just goes to show how bad our system is when fools like you can spit out utter rubbish.

I came on here to write an honest review and you spill trash.
If you follow my threads you will see that I apologised to Brabus if indeed he did not threaten my sister but the other things said were facts so why is a fool like you coming up with thrash?

What exactly is your point here?

That Brabus did not collude with my sister or that you dont have any sense of this topic? Which one?

Why now! You should have ignored him.
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 4:47am On Aug 13, 2015
@ EgunMogaji,
Of course, you haven't dealt with NextHome/Brabus before I'm always amazed at what I read online about our operations.

I'm not saying we are perfect but we're very transparent in our dealing. How?

1. We receive payment based on milestones. New payments are made after satisfactory completion of agreed stage.
2. We always give a project schedule with expected deliverables at given time.
3. We always have a construction contract for each project with payment schedule and individual responsibilities clearly spelt out.
4. We always prepare SOW (Statement of Work) and Specification Documents for client who request for finishing works.

Project will always go wrong when:

1. Client chooses to renegotiate an already agreed contract or contract already been implemented. This isn't to say we aren't flexible but we need to learn how to respect simple gentleman's agreement.

2. Client chooses not to work with the agreed timeline due to limited fund. It's not enough to hold a contract and expect everything to remain the same when we knew the present situation of the country.

3. Overzealous clients. Some clients are too anxious to get projects completed within the shortest time possible without regards for the structural integrity of the building been built.

4. Insincerity. I've had to work with a client before who had only N4m in his account and wanted to build 3 duplexes. We got started and got stucked at foundation stage. The contract actually spelt out what should be done in such situation but I'm not the type who goes about badmouthing people. I only told the client he should have a better plan next time. When we are been sincere with ourselves, we can always avoid problems.

4. Champagne taste on a Lacasera budget. This explains the reason I always ask my clients what are the features of the proposed development. The must-haves and nice-to-have features and I always advice on what should be quality upfront. But here we are, people want a swimming pool on bath tub budget.

What we choose to do differently going forward?

Engage a lawyer to handle contracts. What this does is that it put NextHome on its toes to deliver. The clients won't have to toss us around like a baby anymore.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Nobody: 5:00am On Aug 13, 2015
You're right I haven't dealt with Brabus before. My only exposure is seeing your fantastic and artistic designs and beautifully constructed structures. Then I'll hit threads like the Ikorodu job, the Ondo build and now this one and then I get all confused as to what is happening.

It seems that you actually have an excellent system in place. I think this coupled with getting lawyers involved in the contract signing will serve you well.

I'm building a small bungalow and I'll have a Lawyer involved and I just can't imagine folks spending tons more without having a Lawyer involved.
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 5:02am On Aug 13, 2015
And more importantly, let us get formal in our dealings and transactions. I'm sick and tired of clients orders such as "Bosun, mo ti ri pako yen ni fifty kobo" "Bosun, I've seen the planks at 50k"

That's the essence of milestone based projects. We can always adjust before the commencement of new milestone.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 5:07am On Aug 13, 2015
We made provision in our contracts on how changes should be made. There's change order request form clients can use to formally request for modifications to designs and the project.

But who cares?

We are so comfortable with Baba Lati the bricklayer format.
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by Nobody: 5:13am On Aug 13, 2015
brabus:
We made provision in our contracts on how changes should be made. There's change order request form clients can use to formally request for modifications to designs and the project.

But who cares?

We are so comfortable with Baba Lati format.


I think I'm starting to get a feel for what's happening. Change orders are a critical part of any legit process.

Maybe you're not big enough yet for this but consider adding a contract person to your staff to isolate you from some of this stuff.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 5:24am On Aug 13, 2015
EgunMogaji:


I think I'm starting to get a feel for what's happening. Change orders are a critical part of any legit process.

Maybe you're not big enough yet for this but consider adding a contract person to your staff to isolate you from some of this stuff.

For those who are close to the business, They knew I'm carrying a lot of baggages and I need to shed some weights but it's one thing to have good ideas and it's another thing to have people to run with your vision.

At the moment, we are currently forging strategic partnership with other people/businesses so that I can focus on my area of core competence. Yea, we got packaging and we got the framework. We only need the people whose ideas align with our goals and visions.

In shortest time, NextHome got bigger than what we envisioned. And the growth is so exponential even without any commercial adverts. Now we are trying to catch up with demands. That's not been fraudulent!

It means the business needs to restrategize in order to stay afloat.

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At some point I thought it was just a number game. Maybe we need to add up more people to take care of the numerous projects and day-to-day challenges of running schedules. That's what put me in Hajji Mufutau55 and some other nairalanders bad book cos I had to delegate to people who did badly at executing projects and managing clients. Take case of Euromillion for example, I never visited his site more than once and I had to take the blame cos it was my company and I sent the people who did the job.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by segcymoor(m): 8:40am On Aug 13, 2015
brabus:

For those who are close to the business, They knew I'm carrying a lot of baggages and I need to shed some weights but it's one thing to have good ideas and it's another thing to have people to run with your vision.
At the moment, we are currently forging strategic partnership with other people so that I can focus on my area of core competence. Yea, we got packaging. We got the framework in place. We only need the people whose ideas align with our goals and visions.
In shortest time, NextHome got bigger than what we envisioned. And the growth is so exponential even without any commercial adverts. Now we are trying to catch up with demands. That's not been fraudulent!
It means the business needs to restrategize in order to stay afloat.
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At some point I thought it was just a number game. Maybe we need to add up more people to take care of the numerous projects and day-to-day challenges of running schedules. That's what put me in Hajji Mufutau55 and some other nairalanders bad book cos I had to delegate to people who did badly at executing projects and managing clients. Take case of Euromillion for example, I never visited his site more than once and I had to take the blame cos it was my company and I sent the people who did the job.
segcymoor:

....Bros while all this illogical questions?
Never bother urself, Brabus has learnt his lesson but unfortunately in a bitter way.u will soon see him stand tall! I trust this guy!
However, let's call a spade a spade.
I ve witness here on NL I ve done a project that the brother who introduce me collected cool 3m (this happened after we ve presented the bills).but we are able to manage ourselves well
Yeah. that is my guy. ...I trust you will back but in another dimension
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 9:00am On Aug 13, 2015
segcymoor:

Yeah. that is my guy. ...I trust you will back but in another dimension

I told you I'm not bothered about the review whether good or bad. It is individual opinion. It doesn't really define who I am or what NextHome represents. It only exposes our weaknesses and areas we need to work. This doesn't mean I didn't care. I've taken note of the lessons learnt and started working on the fixes.

Lessons learnt:
- Had brag3 or NextHome involved a legal practitioner in the transaction, there won't be a case of conspiracy? Cos the sister wouldn't have a leeway.

What this meant to us at NextHome is that we are only signing an ordinary paper before now. We need to ensure it becomes a legal binding document by getting a lawyer involved at every transaction. We need to fine tune the process already in place.

Regrets and Apologies

I am sorry that clients had to complain about NextHome on this platform again and I dropped the ball in this case and will do everything I can do in the future to prove the value of your business and trust in me. Thank you for calling my attention to our errors. Our service in the future will be much better, I promise.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brag3: 9:42am On Aug 13, 2015
brabus:


I told you I'm not bothered about the review whether good or bad. It is individual opinion. It doesn't really define who I am or what NextHome represents. It only exposes our weaknesses and areas we need to work. This doesn't mean I didn't care. I've taken note of the lessons learnt and started working on the fixes.

Lessons learnt:
- Had brag3 or NextHome involved a legal practitioner in the transaction, there won't be a case of conspiracy? Cos the sister wouldn't have a leeway.

What this meant to us at NextHome is that we are only signing an ordinary paper before now. We need to ensure it becomes a legal binding document by getting a lawyer involved at every transaction. We need to fine tune the process already in place.

Regrets and Apologies

I am sorry that clients had to complain about NextHome on this platform again and I dropped the ball in this case and will do everything I can do in the future to prove the value of your business and trust in me. Thank you for calling my attention to our errors. Our service in the future will be much better, I promise.

Well done Brabus.
No one is above mistakes and when we admit our shortcomings we show we are only human.

I am very sure that you will come back stronger and do a better job. I myself have learnt my lessons on this and will put things in place when engaging you or anyone in our next phases.

Going forward I am sure you will get more jobs and I really hope that we all hear good things about Nexthome in the coming future cause believe me Bro we all need to work together to make Nigeria a better place.

Put the changes and in a place and let's see NextHome excell.

PS: don't forget to send the document to me/my brother as promised this weekend.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 9:47am On Aug 13, 2015
^^^
Thank you Big Bro!
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by mavverick: 9:47am On Aug 13, 2015
EgunMogaji:
Okay so here's a revelation that will shock you guys.

I will absolutely hires Brabus, if he'll accept me as a client. Please remember that Brag3 who was relieved of N1.7M still tried to rehire him.

The issue I can see here giving a contractor vast leeway with funds and control of a project.

Guys this is how you build a high dollar project.

You divide it into stages with each stage coming with an inspection before release of payment for the next stage.

Stage 1: Contracts are signed and money is released that will get the structure done to an agreed level at an agreed timeframe. Let's say german floor.

Stage 2: Independent inspector (we have them here in the US and I have used one before in Texas) will go onsite and verify that the terms of stage 1 contract has been completed. If not then default penalty terms per the signed agreements enter the fray.

Assuming things are well the next batch of funds are released for getting the structure to the next agreed level. Let's say walls and pillars for 2nd floor.

Stage 3: Independent inspector goes back on site to validate that the level has been reached (this person also inspects for codes to make sure that no short cuts are taken and is also contractually liable for approving an inspection that should have failed.

And so forth and so on.

What about buying materials in bulk to save money you ask? Any builder worth his salt should never used Pauls money to build Pauls house. Paul money should actually be going into a companies escrow account. There is as such as operating loan/operating funds that companies can access for on going concerns. That is if you're truly robust as projected. Spyder880 is developing estates from his own money, paying surveyors, etc before getting a penny from buyers. That's who it's done. You invest your own money in your company.

At the end of the project when the independent inspector and owners inspects the final product and take ownership they will pay the balance due.

Brabus should be able to do this. He has material handling truck, a showroom, etc

So yes I will definitely hire Brabus if he'll take my assignment but I can't afford him and he most likely wouldn't go for my system.



Bros.

I completely agree with what you are saying, however I feel there needs to be a degree of pragmatism in it and to also add the Nigerian factor. Now, a lot of people who come to NL even from the diaspora are not billionaires as some people in Nija think, most of these people are normal people who are just trying to achieve one thing or the other, you will even hear of people who do not own their own home in Obodo oyinbo, but yet they decide to build in Nija first, its just the saying "No place like home". One day you will come back home na, or is it everytime you want to be staying with that friend, family etc whenever you come to Nija, before you know it some will start bamboozing their problems and shooting it at you "Arrange Visa for me, We need money, School fees, arrange hospital abroad for me" and the list goes on.

Anyway, not to divert away from the point. Here are the issues I see. A lot of Nija contractors (not all) and people in the mould of brabus would not build a house for you with their own money, they might do some works for you, but I don't think Brabus will construct foundation columns and german floor for you out of his own money.... So Abeg, commot that idea for this equation. Also, you have some (remember not all) who will get contractor to do work and then they would not pay, so if the contractor experiences this on 2-3 occasions, do you not think that they will go bust ? Ontop wetin ? because I build house for client.

In one example when Brabus was doing work for me, I specifically asked for my foundation to be 5 boards high, Brabus did 4 and told me that he thought I meant 4 board + DPC. I was explicit enough about 5 with no mention of DPC. It was only for the timely intervention of GOD which ensured that I was in Nija when the filling started and when even people with naked eyes told me that this your foundation is too low, then I took the decision to go 6 board. My Architect suggested I go a minimum of 5 board but if I have the means go 6 board. I took the view that this is foundation and once its done, its done. You don't want to regret it because one is trying to save 1m - 1.5m.

Now these are some of the shortcomings I have found with Brabus.


Secondly, why is it that some builders have a problem when you suggest you want to provide your own materials ?

In my experience, I'm not a builder but just a normal guy who understands some aspects of building and supervises building work over the years (not in nija), in Nija one of the reasons I wanted to supply my own materials was because I felt that this would convince workers not to compromise on quality. Its not that if they deliberately want to do it, they would still mess up your project by not having enough cement/granite etc when you have enough on ground, but as they say "Money is the root of evil", If the payment for contractor supervision and workers are separated and material is also provided by client, you would have thought contractor/workers would not want to short change you by either not buying what you gave them the money to or buying inferior quality materials. Surely everything should click together right ? workers should be paid ensuring that they are motivated, contractor should be paid for his time ensuring he directs the job well and is on hand to answer questions or provide update to client and materials are on ground on time and workers are cracking on. This is the perfect combination right "but this is not what I experienced on some occasions"......


Also OP, In Nija its difficult to budget accurately, its a country where anything can happen !!!. So hence you need to have a healthy 20% contingency put to one side. Do you think that some contractors would want to put this kind of money aside ? I don't think so bro, certainly with my experience with Brabus on some occasions. Not all, but some. Atimes, I felt like I was being thrown under the bus and at other times he was in control of things, but mouth too sweat.. ooh boy.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brag3: 9:47am On Aug 13, 2015
EgunMogaji:
Okay so here's a revelation that will shock you guys.

I will absolutely hires Brabus, if he'll accept me as a client. Please remember that Brag3 who was relieved of N1.7M still tried to rehire him.

The issue I can see here giving a contractor vast leeway with funds and control of a project.

Guys this is how you build a high dollar project.

You divide it into stages with each stage coming with an inspection before release of payment for the next stage.

Stage 1: Contracts are signed and money is released that will get the structure done to an agreed level at an agreed timeframe. Let's say german floor.

Stage 2: Independent inspector (we have them here in the US and I have used one before in Texas) will go onsite and verify that the terms of stage 1 contract has been completed. If not then default penalty terms per the signed agreements enter the fray.

Assuming things are well the next batch of funds are released for getting the structure to the next agreed level. Let's say walls and pillars for 2nd floor.

Stage 3: Independent inspector goes back on site to validate that the level has been reached (this person also inspects for codes to make sure that no short cuts are taken and is also contractually liable for approving an inspection that should have failed.

And so forth and so on.

What about buying materials in bulk to save money you ask? Any builder worth his salt should never used Pauls money to build Pauls house. Paul money should actually be going into a companies escrow account. There is as such as operating loan/operating funds that companies can access for on going concerns. That is if you're truly robust as projected. Spyder880 is developing estates from his own money, paying surveyors, etc before getting a penny from buyers. That's who it's done. You invest your own money in your company.

At the end of the project when the independent inspector and owners inspects the final product and take ownership they will pay the balance due.

Brabus should be able to do this. He has material handling truck, a showroom, etc

So yes I will definitely hire Brabus if he'll take my assignment but I can't afford him and he most likely wouldn't go for my system.


Slight point of correction. I did not try to rehire Brabus. Brabus was already working on the project during that time and we were just negotiating for him to do only the supervision as opposed to the full phase (Supply of materials, etc).
Also at this time I did not know that there was a seperate contract. The seperate contract came way after we tried to negotiate the Supervision for this phase.

This is not to say I will/wont re-hire Brabus. Who knows I may need him again down the line.

When you experience things in life you learn not to say "NEVER" cause we don't know what we will hit down the line.

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Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brabus(m): 10:08am On Aug 13, 2015
@mavverick, can we deal with specifics here?
What document did we (NextHome) use to prepare your estimate?

The architectural, structural, electrical and mechanical drawings submitted by the architect.

1. Can you tell us what height was specified in the structural drawings which was duly signed and sealed by a COREN engineer?

2. On your second allegation, a BOQ document (Bill of Quantity) prepared by a QS should be your guide and not a builders quote since you are DIYing.

3. Did you follow the payment schedule as agreed in the contract document? A simple yes or no would suffice.

4. When you choose to go out of the contract, did we say No? A simple yes or no would suffice.

So what are the odds stacked up against you? NextHome stick to their guns by doing exactly what the structural drawing, which forms part of the contract document, specified.
Or maybe we allowed you to walk away from the contract without any fuss? Or you ended up spending more than what the builder quoted for the project?
Re: Nexthome Builders: 2014/2015 New and Ongoing Projects by brag3: 10:24am On Aug 13, 2015
brabus:
@mavvericks, can we deal with specifics?
What document did we use to prepare your estimate?

The architectural, structural, electrical and mechanical drawings submitted by the architect.

1. Can you tell us what height was specified in the structural drawings which was duly signed and sealed by a COREN engineer?

2. On your second allegation, a BOQ document (Bill of Quantity) prepared by a QS should be your guide.

@Brabus.
On a side note. I don't recall (I may be completely wrong) receving the architectural, structural, electrical and mechanical drawings from you
Please can you forward these to my brother as well as myself?
I spoke to him a few mins ago and he does not have these.

Will appreciate this.

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