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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 8:32am On Aug 13, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:27am On Aug 13, 2015 |
DictatorZAR: Butt-Hurt South-African!!! Shut up and sell that MRAP! 85% of your exports consists of MRAPs, MRAPs............ And more MRAPs! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:33am On Aug 13, 2015 |
Henry120: SA sells thousands of small arms from rockets, hand grenade, firearms, missiles, artillery shells, boats, and many more. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:34am On Aug 13, 2015 |
DictatorZAR: It is irrefutable. Your request is like asking me to prove that a Black chalk board is actually Black. There is no sense in such a request. You sleep and breath MRAPs. All Nigerian products are battle-tested and have performed flawlessly in combat operations, hence we are currently seeing exports of some of these products, despite the fact that they are relatively new in the market. Ask Rwanda, South-Sudan and the UN. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:39am On Aug 13, 2015 |
Henry120: Then you are wrong because the board is actually white. SA develops Artillery guns and many more. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:44am On Aug 13, 2015 |
Henry120: RWANDA AND SOUTH SUDAN DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING NIGERIAN. STOP TELLING US LIES. IN UN IT IS YOUR OWN PERSONNEL WHO HAVE DEPLOYED WITH YOUR OWN PRODUCTS. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:48am On Aug 13, 2015 |
jln115: My message to you this morning............. "JLN115 stop kissing as$!" You probably knew so, but many of the South-African clowns we've seen here always disputed same. For a country which only began growing in 2005, it's an amazing transformation. What is more shocking is that despite huge mineral resources and an un-rivaled european support you South-Africans get, we still were able to roundly beat you to the top spot. Now this is truly pathetic. Like i said previously, on the automotive side, before 2014 we barely had 3 functional assembly plants, but today we have over 25 functional assembly plants and car component manufacturers. Actually, Rwanda and South-Sudan aren't Nigeria's neighbours, infact they aren't even in West-Africa. Yet again, you South-Africans display your poor educational standards. 100 companies were rated, and Denel came last. There is no evidence that you would have scored higher if the pool was expanded. You came in at last place! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 9:50am On Aug 13, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Lol. You are arguing with a 100 % troll. He was already defeated pages ago. Maybe he grew up without knowing his father, now he wants attention from other men. This whole thing started regarding the Denel top 100 link. Ask him what products Denel makes most of its revenue from, and he goes back to talking about the SA defence industry. He's not stup.id at all. He's just looking for attention. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:50am On Aug 13, 2015 |
Henry120: You are a fool. What do you understand about TOP 100 Lastly Nigeria does not make cars it assemble cars unlike SA which makes them. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:55am On Aug 13, 2015 |
patches689: Patrick, 100 defence companies were evaluated, and unfortunately for you soweto clowns, Denel scored in at last place. 100 out of 100. There is no evidence that Denel would have scored higher if more companies were evaluated, none exists. So enjoy your last place. Not like i was expecting Denel to score any higher than last place. You tout yourself as a Defence manufacturer, we don't. You came last, congratulations. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:56am On Aug 13, 2015 |
RWANDA AND SUDAN HAVE ZERO MADE IN NIGERIA WEAPONS. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:58am On Aug 13, 2015 |
Henry120: The world has more than 100 defence companies and denel which represent Africa came 100th. It is an achievement because in terms of our revenue status we never reached that position in our history. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:00am On Aug 13, 2015 |
ssaengine: You are a nagging woman! How was i defeated, 85% of all South-African defence exports are MRAPs. FACT! You came last in the Defence companies ranking, another FACT! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:02am On Aug 13, 2015 |
DENEL IS RANKED TOP 100 OF ALL DEFENCE COMPANIES IN THE WORLD IN TERMS OF REVENUES MADE FOR 2014 FINANCIAL YEAR. http://mobi.iol.co.za/#!/article/denel-in-top-100-defence-manufacturers-1.1898293 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:05am On Aug 13, 2015 |
Henry120:Your information is horribly wrong. Denel sells variety of weapons to the world. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 10:05am On Aug 13, 2015 |
Henry120: Henry. Henry-o. You are not a stup.id person. Keep playing your games. Have fun with yourself. Fine...your fact is correct. I agree with you. Im not arguing. Now that i've agreed with you. Can you please tell me, within the numerous defence companies in South Africa there is one called Denel Pty (Ltd). Does that company also make most of its revenue selling MRAP's? Yes or No? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:09am On Aug 13, 2015 |
PEOPLE, @MR HENRY FAILS TO UNDERSTAND THAT AMERICA ALONE HAS OVER 100 DEFENCE COMPANIES, UK, ITALY, SPAIN AND OTHERS HAVE HAVE OVER HUNDREDS OF DEFENCE MANUFACTURING COMPANIES. SOUTH AFRICA ALSO HAS OVER 100 DEFENCE COMPANIES. OF ALL OF THIS COMPANIES IN THE WORLD, DENEL CAME 100. THAT'S THE BIGGEST ACHIEMENT. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 10:11am On Aug 13, 2015 |
mzilakazi: He understands perfectly. He's being a troll. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:16am On Aug 13, 2015 |
ssaengine: I like your sincerity. With just a couple more sincere South-Africans like you've now currently shown, perhaps Africa could still be a better place. The only problem i now have with you is your consistent nagging. We can now call it a day on this topic (with you), so i can face patches689 or JLN115. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:16am On Aug 13, 2015 |
AMERICAS LIST OF DEFENCE COMPANIES. REMEMBER, DENEL AND ALL SOUTH AFRICAN DEFENCE COMPANIES COMPETED WITH ALL OF THOSE COMPANIES ON THIS LIST AND THIS LIST IS ONLY FOR USA. http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/indexAtoZ.html |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:23am On Aug 13, 2015 |
DENEL MAKES IT TO THE TOP 100. http://defensecontractormarketing.com/defense-news-top-100-global-companies-2015/ 2015 Defense News Top 100 1. Lockheed Martin (U.S.) Website Grade: 83% 2. Boeing (U.S.) Website Grade: 85% 3. BAE Systems (U.K.) Website Grade: 59% 4. Raytheon (U.S.) Website Grade: 45% 5. General Dynamics (U.S.) Website Grade: 51% 6. Northrop Grumman (U.S.) Website Grade: 67% 7. Airbus Group (Netherlands) Website Grade: 67% 8. United Technologies (U.S.) Website Grade: 66% 9. Finmeccanica (Italy) Website Grade: 59% 10. L-3 Communications (U.S.) Website Grade: 49% 11. Almaz-Antey (Russia) Website Grade: 38% 12. Thales (France) Website Grade: 71% 13. Huntington Ingalls (U.S.) Website Grade: 59% 14. United Aircraft Corp (Russia) Website Grade: 60% 15. Rolls-Royce (U.K.) Website Grade: 66% 16. Honeywell (U.S.) Website Grade: 60% 17. Textron (U.S.) Website Grade: 78% 18. AECOM (U.S.) Website Grade: 86% 19. Booz Allen Hamilton (U.S.) Website Grade: 82% 20. Safran (France) Website Grade: 67% 21. DCNS (France) Website Grade: 54% 22. GE (U.S.) Website Grade: 78% 23. Russian Helicopters (Russia) Website Grade: 38% 24. Leidos (U.S.) Website Grade: 81% 25. Babcock International (U.K.) Website Grade: 38% 26. United Engine Building (Russia) Website Grade: 34% 27. Bechtel (U.S.) Website Grade: 68% 28. Rheinmetall (Germany) Website Grade: 51% 29. Elbit Systems (Israel) Website Grade: 36% 30. Saab (Sweden) Website Grade: 65% 31. Tactical Missiles (Russia) Website Grade: 32% 32. Israel Aerospace Industries (Israel) Website Grade: 39% 33. Orbital ATK (U.S.) Website Grade: 50% 34. SAIC (U.S.) Website Grade: 71% 35. Exelis (U.S.) Website Grade: 50% 36. Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (Japan) Website Grade: 42% 37. CACI International (U.S.) Website Grade: 60% 38. Hindustan Aeronautics (India) Website Grade: 52% 39. Harris (U.S.) Website Grade: 60% 40. Hewlett- Packard (U.S.) Website Grade: 89% 41. Rockwell Collins (U.S.) Website Grade: 58% 42. CSC (U.S.) Website Grade: 69% 43. Serco (U.K.) Website Grade: 47% 44. ST Engineering (Singapore) Website Grade: 40% 45. Rafael Advanced Defense Systems (Israel) Website Grade: 34% 46. Kawasaki Heavy Industries (Japan) Website Grade: 57% 47. Cobham (U.K.) Website Grade: NA 48. Oshkosh (U.S.) Website Grade: 51% 49. General Atomics (U.S.) Website Grade: 51% 50. Aerojet Rocketdyne (U.S.) Website Grade: 62% 51. DynCorp (U.S.) Website Grade: 83% 52. UralVagonZavod (Russia) Website Grade: 54% 53. Hanwha (South Korea) Website Grade: 54% 54. Engility (U.S.) Website Grade: 53% 55. Embraer (Brazil) Website Grade: 59% 56. Fincantieri (Italy) Website Grade: 47% 57. Nexter (France) Website Grade: 52% 58. Dassault Aviation (France) Website Grade: 76% 59. LIG Nex1 (South Korea) Website Grade: 34% 60. Fluor (U.S.) Website Grade: 60% 61. Korea Aerospace Industries (South Korea) Website Grade: 22% 62. Aselsan (Turkey) Website Grade: 59% 63. Accenture (Ireland) Website Grade: 69% 64. Mantech (U.S.) Website Grade: 48% 65. QinetiQ (U.K.) Website Grade: 81% 66. NEC (Japan) Website Grade: 64% 67. GKN Aerospace (U.K.) Website Grade: 62% 68. Ultra Electronics (U.K.) Website Grade: 51% 69. RTI Sistema (Russia) Website Grade: 48% 70. Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (Germany) Website Grade: 22% 71. Kongsberg (Norway) Website Grade: 55% 72. Ana Holdings (Japan) Website Grade: 31% 73. Samsung Techwin (South Korea) Website Grade: 59% 74. PAE (U.S.) Website Grade: 57% 75. Meggitt (U.K.) Website Grade: 48% 76. Bharat Electronics (India) Website Grade: 35% 77. Mitsubishi Electric (Japan) Website Grade: 66% 78. Turkish Aerospace Industries (Turkey) Website Grade: 57% 79. Moog (U.S.) Website Grade: 50% 80. AAR (U.S.) Website Grade: 63% 81. Cubic (U.S.) Website Grade: 46% 82. CAE (Canada) Website Grade: 56% 83. Alion Science and Technology (U.S.) Website Grade: 41% 84. Curtiss-Wright (U.S.) Website Grade: 46% 85. Chemring (U.K.) Website Grade: 44% 86. RUAG (Switzerland) Website Grade: 40% 87. Ball Aerospace & Technologies (U.S.) Website Grade: 56% 88. Indra (Spain) Website Grade: 64% 89. Wyle (U.S.) Website Grade: 51% 90. Diehl Defence Group (Germany) Website Grade: 75% 91. IHI (Japan) Website Grade: 41% 92. UkrOboronProm (Ukraine) Website Grade: 35% 93. Battelle (U.S.) Website Grade: 60% 94. Patria (Finland) Website Grade: 44% 95. Day & Zimmermann (U.S.) Website Grade: 53% 96. ViaSat (U.S.) Website Grade: 24% 97. Nammo (Norway) Website Grade: 47% 98. Fujitsu (Japan) Website Grade: 77% 99. Israel Military Industries (Israel) Website Grade: 43% 100. Denel (South Africa) Website Grade: 41% |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 10:24am On Aug 13, 2015 |
Henry120: Ok cool. No stress. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 10:29am On Aug 13, 2015 |
mzilakazi: What a group to be part of. Denel has really done a good job. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:33am On Aug 13, 2015 |
ssaengine: WHERE IS SUKHOI AND MIG? NOT EVEN A SINGLE CHINESE COMPANY. BRICS COMPANIES MUST PULL UP THEIR SOCKS AND INTENSIFY THEIR MARKETING STRATEGIES FOR THE LIKES OF NIGERIA TO BUY MORE FROM THEM. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:52am On Aug 13, 2015 |
AFTER THE ROOOVALK WENT ON AN OUTING WITH REBELS AND DEMOLISHED THEM WITHOUT ANY MECHANICAL DEFAULTS. THAT WAS THE BEST MARKETING PROMO FOR ROOIVALK. LADIES AND GENTS, THE ROOIVALK II STAND TO MAKE A SUCCESS UPON PRODUCTION AND DENEL IS READY TO MANUFACTURE MORE OF AN IMPORT AND EXPORT VERSION OF ROOIVALK GUNSHIPS. http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-40204/ |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:16am On Aug 13, 2015 |
Henry120: So what? What are Denels exports composed of? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:16am On Aug 13, 2015 |
Henry120:You obviously don't understand the meaning of kissing a$$ mate, its what you and Agubugu do in your spare time....well that and sucking each others d1cks. How has Nigeria only been growing since 2005? Didn't Nigeria exist before 2005? Besides you should've been the largest economy by then as well. We never had European support!! We were colonised just as you guys were, except we beat the living sh1t out of the British when they were here and thus won our freedom much earlier than you. And yes we have plenty of mineral resources, why do you think we still dominate Africa economy wise? And Also like I said previously, when Nigeria exports 270 000 vehicles a year then you can compare your Automotive industry to ours. When I said neighbours I meant countries in relative proximity to Nigeria, which South Sudan is. And P.S I also said poor which both South Sudan and Rwanda are. ALL Defence companies were rated, it just happens to be that Denel is the 100th largest Defence company in the world out of thousands. BTW were is DICON? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 11:18am On Aug 13, 2015 |
Allegations of Bribery In 2008, the Sunday Times reported that Ferrostaal allegedly gave former president Thabo Mbeki R30 million in bribes, some of which was allegedly shared with current president Jacob Zuma. An internal audit of Ferrostaal by American- based law firm Debevoise and Plimpton, who was hired after the German Public Prosecutions Authority arrested of one of its board members in 2010, reportedly places the amount paid in bribes at R300 million, or over $40 million. The report was not publicly released, but Germany's Süddeutsche Zeitung reported that it had obtained a copy.[9] . . . en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ZeroRatedMobileAccess&from=Heroine-class_submarine&to=http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/germans-paid-r300m-for-sa-submarines-1.1112665 Gripen International was responsible for marketing the aircraft, and was heavily involved in the successful export of the type to South Africa; the organization was later dissolved amidst allegations of bribery being employed to secure foreign interest and sales. On the export market, the Gripen has achieved moderate success in sales to nations in Central Europe, South Africa and Southeast Asia; bribes have been reportedly involved in some of these procurements. . . . en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ZeroRatedMobileAccess&from=Saab_JAS_39_Gripen&to=http://web.archive.org/web/20090622063715/http://www.aklagare.se/Media/Nyheter/Jas-Gripen-utredning-laggs-ned . . . Bhim SPH: A 155 mm self-propelled howitzer variant of the Arjun has been prototyped by fitting the South African Denel T6 turret, which comes with the G5 howitzer to the Arjun chassis. This project has been delayed as Denel has become embroiled in a corruption scandal in India, and hence the Indian Ministry of Defence has suspended the Bhim. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by John1988(m): 11:21am On Aug 13, 2015 |
Yes i think Nigeria has the best military so ever its not because of the current situation but the are the best.i love Nigeria. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:22am On Aug 13, 2015 |
jln115: PAT WHAT ABOUT RWANDA AND S. SUDAN? CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THEIR ROLE ON THIS TOPIC? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:22am On Aug 13, 2015 |
Henry120: What percentage of Denels sales are MRAPs? Whom have they been sold to and in what numbers? Lol - what sales are you talking about? Why has DICON not sold anything yet? Over 60 years old and no major sales! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:23am On Aug 13, 2015 |
lionel4power: I guess SAAB bribed Brazil also. |
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