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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:13pm On Aug 18, 2015
chrisley024:
Hehe! Una don dey question Pedro abilities before he arrival? grin

I'm not interested in him though. We need an attacker that can carry this team (just like LvG City has Aguero, Barca has theirs, Madrid, Bayern, Chelsea while we've what) which he's not.


Every Man Utd fan needs a striker, but stubborn goat, Gaal refused to get one. We have to make do with Pedro. No choice.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 2:29pm On Aug 18, 2015
Spy360:
He signed Baba cheesy.

How hath the mighty fallen. The real Mourinho would be thinking of Alaba.
He was the same Jose that signed Ozil and khedira from Germany...
The same Jose that signed callejon..

Invalid point
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:59pm On Aug 18, 2015
StarBoard:


Paolo Maldini was how old before he became a regular at Milan?
Same for Franco Baresi and Claudio Gentile for their clubsides?
What about Franz Beckenbauer?

Even Thiago Silva started playing for Brazil at 22. Otamendi at 20/21.




Where these players the leaders of their sides at that young age or just one to complement a defensive four.

For instance, you said Thiago Silva played for Brazil at 22. But even at 2010 world cup Lucio was the leader of the Brazilian defence. Dani Alves was also a pillar and there was Gilberto. So Brazil could afford to have a rookie at the center back.

Jones and Smalling played for England even at a younger age, they have been shielded by the experience of Jagielka, Cahill, even Ferdinand. Should one of them go on to be world class you would tell us how they came to power since their teenage years.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:06pm On Aug 18, 2015
StarBoard, my point is becoming a leader. Not becoming just a starter or a regular. Afterall, Evans was once a regular.

If we bought a 21 years old would he be a leader of Smalling or a learner under Smalling? We will have a partnership of Smalling and a learner. A learner who might really not be better than McNair when tested in the EPL.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:21pm On Aug 18, 2015
elampiro:
StarBoard, my point is becoming a leader. Not becoming just a starter or a regular. Afterall, Evans was once a regular.

If we bought a 21 years old would he be a leader of Smalling or a learner under Smalling? We will have a partnership of Smalling and a learner. A learner who might really not be better than McNair when tested in the EPL.

For me it's not about age.
If you're good, age is irrelevant to me.

I can understand your point about adapting to a new league.
But I'm more concerned about a player's ability, not his age.


All the people i mentioned went on to become leaders,as you put it. The forst step to being a leader is showing you have any sort of ability and that confidence can be reposed in you.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:24pm On Aug 18, 2015
ElFenomeno1:

Your rants against Rooney didn't start in 2012. You are a pathological liar, clinically proven one!

you are a rank idiöt....
this is why you have never been the sharpest tool in the drawer. you talk before you think. your central nervous system is faulty! who made this comment as far back as 2012? https://www.nairaland.com/871307/official-manchester-united-fan-thread/90#11889420



Saying Rooney has been a good servant to United doesn't have anything to do with his current form.... The point here is you have no powers to remove Wayne from the team..... Your epileptic rants on this forum against Wayne is OTT
You look at your team, the team you currently have and tell me who should be starting ahead of Wayne....
You keep ejacu....lating all over the place about going to buy a new striker like it is as easy as going to Mile 12 to buy mango in December!
Sometimes, the crap you spit on this forum, you need to start reading back to yourself, if your weak brain cells can relate, before you hit the submit button!
Coogar you are a gasbag!

you're a career morön.
so if no one is as good as rooney, LVG cannot go out there and get a striker better than the nonsense rooney has served all season? which club in the top four would play rooney as their lead striker? is the current rooney better than any of giroud, costa, aguero, benteke or even harry kane? if you don't have anything to say sometimes......it's better you tape it shut! stop pretending you have an answer to everything when history has actually revealed to us you spent 2 years each in every class in your secondary school. with your culex mosquito brain power, you shouldn't be discussing football matters on a forum. it's intellectually out of your league!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:26pm On Aug 18, 2015
JayKayMaybachz:
He'll be long term prospect and the guy is good

He might be very good. But I don't fancy young defenders and goalkeepers anymore. This is not even a time we should be buying prospects.

There are a few teams in Europe that can afford to have teenagers and the lapses won't be obvious, but certainly not us. The City team can afford a teenager and everything will still work well.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:33pm On Aug 18, 2015
StarBoard:


For me it's not about age.
If you're good, age is irrelevant to me.

I can understand your point about adapting to a new league.
But I'm more concerned about a player's ability, not his age.


All the people i mentioned went on to become leaders,as you put it. The forst step to being a leader is showing you have any sort of ability and that confidence can be reposed in you.

I gat you. But we are looking for a leader not a prospect. Our team is not very balanced to accommodate the inconsistency that accompanies the game of a young defender.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Keky(m): 3:36pm On Aug 18, 2015
coogar:


ramos would improve is massively.
RB - ramos
CB - smalling
CB - otamendi
LB - shaw

that's a formidable back four. if you add rojo & blind to the equation, we are set to compete in europe.



they would sell if ramos continues to denigrate real madrid. florentino perez is a lunatic. he sacked ancellotti because he subbed gareth bale. he's that fickle about himself.



ramos can play RB! that's the plus....
otamendi's deal is sealed. after copa, he would fly to england & we would pay his buy-out clause(£35m)

if ramos is available, we should get him. smalling & co would learn a lot from him. he has won every title possible in club & international competitions.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 3:36pm On Aug 18, 2015
What's up with Pedro na angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:46pm On Aug 18, 2015
elampiro:


I gat you. But we are looking for a leader not a prospect. Our team is not very balanced to accommodate the inconsistency that accompanies the game of a young defender.

You both have points. We need a leader and not a learner as Elampiro said. However leadership is not always about age.
Tony Adams, John Terry,Buffon e.t.c became leaders at an early age

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 3:49pm On Aug 18, 2015
Emperoh:


I thought you were going to take your argument from the line of home growin talents. But even at that, Rooney ain't home grown. Bros, Ruud boi and Ronaldo shits all over Rooney. If you say CR7 was a midfielder, how come he's outscored Rooney the striker?

Guy park well oo grin grin
That you score doesn't mean you must be a striker. Chelsea's all time highest goal scorer is Lampard, in years to come people may think he was a striker.

For the records, Messi and Ronaldo are goal scoring wingers or if you like attacking midfielders or support strikers- nos 8, 7, 11s.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 3:59pm On Aug 18, 2015
Keky:
smh. Kiddies time grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 4:00pm On Aug 18, 2015
bigkesh:

He was the same Jose that signed Ozil and khedira from Germany...
The same Jose that signed callejon..

Invalid point
That pair together with Muller had just taken the world cup by storm in South Africa. Remember how they finished Argentina. They were the best youngest as at then.

But tell me who is Baba? Don't get me wrong please, I am not saying he is useless, what I am saying is he is not tested and proven whereas the 'real Mourinho' has no time for unproven players, he goes for the best of the best. Check na.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 4:17pm On Aug 18, 2015
elampiro:


He might be very good. But I don't fancy young defenders and goalkeepers anymore. This is not even a time we should be buying prospects.

There are a few teams in Europe that can afford to have teenagers and the lapses won't be obvious, but certainly not us. The City team can afford a teenager and everything will still work well.
City barely have a teenager though
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 4:35pm On Aug 18, 2015
Spy360:
That pair together with Muller had just taken the world cup by storm in South Africa. Remember how they finished Argentina. They were the best youngest as at then.

But tell me who is Baba? Don't get me wrong please, I am not saying he is useless, what I am saying is he is not tested and proven whereas the 'real Mourinho' has no time for unproven players, he goes for the best of the best. Check na.
Diego milito, Thiago Motta....I understand ur point anyways
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:53pm On Aug 18, 2015
nyabinghi:
it is not a new thing if they outscored him at least ivanovic outscored falcao that played for us last season, or has falcao flopped all his life.
For someone who's on his a way to becoming a club legend and as a striker, who didn't have a serious injury like Falcao's, its a shame if lesser strikers like Giroud and Benteke outscore him. Falcao had ACL. That's one of the most serious injuries a footballer can get. And dat shi† hit Falcao really hard. So Falcao is still undastandable...

Rooney neva get injury and he's already regressing!!

nyabinghi:
Benteke 1 Costa 0 Benteke 1 Sanchez 0 Ayew 2 costa 0 Ayew 2 Giroud 1, Mahrez 3 Costa 0 Mahrez 3 Giroud 1 so your point is ?
My point is we cant move forward wit Rooney as our top 9. Its dat simple.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:00pm On Aug 18, 2015
Emperoh:


I thought you were going to take your argument from the line of home growin talents. But even at that, Rooney ain't home grown. Bros, Ruud boi and Ronaldo shits all over Rooney. If you say CR7 was a midfielder, how come he's outscored Rooney the striker?

Guy park well oo grin grin
Rooney aint home grown?? Hasn't he played in England all his life?? Abi isn't dat wat honegrown is?? I disagree about ur assertion of Ruud over Rooney. Ruud was good but to me he still no play reach Rooney. We're all chastising Rooney now coz he's playing shit. If he was still playing now, as he was playing in 2010, i bet u'd pick him for Balon D' Or nomination. Lets gve credit where its due abeg!

*At the bolded* Thats why i said STRIKER! Best STRIKER! We all know Ronaldo as a midfielder was beta dan Rooney!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:04pm On Aug 18, 2015
StarBoard:


But Ronaldo was deployed as a striker in his latter days at United. He scored 42 in 2007/08.
Was Ronaldo a striker dat season?? I doubt o..
Remember we had Rooney, Tevez and Berbatov. Ronaldo was always deployed on the left wing!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 5:05pm On Aug 18, 2015
Is LvG really allowing Otamendi slip from grasp?? That will be highly unacceptable!
Why do we still have Johnny Evans on the payroll? We've given away better players for almost FOC, so?!

SMH
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:13pm On Aug 18, 2015
Madrid signs Mateo Kovacic from Inter....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:28pm On Aug 18, 2015
SailorXY:
Is LvG really allowing Otamendi slip from grasp?? That will be highly unacceptable!
Why do we still have Johnny Evans on the payroll? We've given away better players for almost FOC, so?!

SMH
Exactly wat i said! But some pple here were like we dont need him and LVG neva went for him in the 1st place. Issok!

Lets see how far we'll go wit Blind as our CB and the likes of Jones and Evans as backup...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:38pm On Aug 18, 2015
[quote author=Keky post=37087796][/quote] grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 5:47pm On Aug 18, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
Exactly wat i said! But some pple here were like we dont need him and LVG neva went for him in the 1st place. Issok!

Lets see how far we'll go wit Blind as our CB and the likes of Jones and Evans as backup...
The guy is too expensive for that price.
Am sure we grab somebody just has good but cheaper.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:48pm On Aug 18, 2015
SailorXY:
Is LvG really allowing Otamendi slip from grasp?? That will be highly unacceptable!
Why do we still have Johnny Evans on the payroll? We've given away better players for almost FOC, so?!

SMH
#fact If he was interested in Otamendi ,he will be at OT now so I guess na media link us with the guy. Would hv loved him to come shaa n complement d nonsense in our defense but LVG probably was just interested in Hummells n Ramos ,n since he lost out on both of them ,I think that's it for him in the defense department until maybe next summer. I remember him saying that he will only go for players that r world class n better than our current crop of players so maybe he doesn't fancy nicolas ,also I think Pedro may be our last transfer business this summer.

And the price of the player is too much ,city got him for €40m cos Valencia still owes them money for Negredo. If na us go ,na €50m we for spend on top his head as Valencia r desperate to beat the FFP regulations.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Pataki: 5:54pm On Aug 18, 2015
Parrie here tonight? cool
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:55pm On Aug 18, 2015
I still want to see if Rooney will improve upfront ,if he doesn't by December den dats it for me.




Meanwhile the association of midgets who crushed Chelsea on Sunday (Navas ,Silva ,Sterling n Aguero) are most likely to catapult city to the league title this season but hey ,it's still early days.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Pataki: 5:56pm On Aug 18, 2015
coogar:


ramos would improve is massively.
RB - ramos
CB - smalling
CB - otamendi
LB - shaw

that's a formidable back four. if you add rojo & blind to the equation, we are set to compete in europe.



they would sell if ramos continues to denigrate real madrid. florentino perez is a lunatic. he sacked ancellotti because he subbed gareth bale. he's that fickle about himself.



ramos can play RB! that's the plus....
otamendi's deal is sealed. after copa, he would fly to england & we would pay his buy-out clause(£35m)

if ramos is available, we should get him. smalling & co would learn a lot from him. he has won every title possible in club & international competitions.
Heart wrenching - no? Not yet? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 6:13pm On Aug 18, 2015
nyabinghi:
just like aguero carried city to the league title lasts eason in the absence of yaya toure, the much maligned Rooney is United's all time scorer, this implies that all our past top scorers like bobby charlton, nistelrooy et al were shyte.
Papa if u hv nothing better to say abeg close mouth. Calling Sir Bobby Charlton n Ruud shiit is d stupidest comment I hv ever read in my life ,even more stцpid dan elampiro's claim that SAF played Rooney upfront against Liverpool because Gerrard will mark him out in midfield... Sir Bobby Charlton is United's record top scorer followed by Dennis law b4 Wayne Rooney.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:23pm On Aug 18, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
Was Ronaldo a striker dat season?? I doubt o..
Remember we had Rooney, Tevez and Berbatov. Ronaldo was always deployed on the left wing!!
So how did he end up out scoring those people in all competitions.?

By the way we didnt have Berbatov in 07/08. We had Saha but he was always injured.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:25pm On Aug 18, 2015
elampiro:


I gat you. But we are looking for a leader not a prospect. Our team is not very balanced to accommodate the inconsistency that accompanies the game of a young defender.
There aren't too many leaders out there who are available.
We can still improve the defense by signing decent defenders. I believe dat.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 6:27pm On Aug 18, 2015
parrotibaba:
#fact If he was interested in Otamendi ,he will be at OT now so I guess na media link us with the guy. Would hv loved him to come shaa n complement d nonsense in our defense but LVG probably was just interested in Hummells n Ramos ,n since he lost out on both of them ,I think that's it for him in the defense department until maybe next summer. I remember him saying that he will only go for players that r world class n better than our current crop of players so maybe he doesn't fancy nicolas ,also I think Pedro may be our last transfer business this summer.

And the price of the player is too much ,city got him for €40m cos Valencia still owes them money for Negredo. If na us go ,na €50m we for spend on top his head as Valencia r desperate to beat the FFP regulations.
Well I feel he's gonna improve our defence anyway, but I don't really have much problems with our back line. It seem the approach of LvG this season has more priority in covering the GK.

My main problem is if we don't convert about 50% of our own chances this season, e no go easy faa.

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