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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Graviton2(m): 11:53pm On Aug 20, 2015
ahyotomiwa:
@ Gravitation 2

Tuition: 13,614
Room and board: 8,681(most of d time is best to put a minimum of 10,000 CAD here)..if dats wat sch stated fine..

Other: Blank...(never leave blank...this is where transportation, little procurement and other miscellaneous expenses come in..Even if u have more dan enough funds available and you leave it blank, you are telling them that you sponsor is not ready to support U in this portion even with the enough money available....sometimes expenses encountered in this region are even more than tuition sometimes (HERE TOO, TRY FILL IN A MINIMUM OF 10,000-12000)

Funds available: 52,000....(HERE, when you sum tuition, room and board, and others..make sure u have addition of of 10,000-12000 extra more) for example (13,614+10000+12000+16386)=52000......(Perfectly OK)

PROOFS...(PROPER IN AND OUT FLOW....with balance more than 52000....say (60000cad plus)

I BELIEVE THEY WUD ALWAYS CHECK UR FILLED FORMS FIRST, SO ONCE U DONT FILL THEM WELL, D PROOF SUBMITTED WUDNT EVEN MATTER WEDA DEY R PERFECT OR NOT..

Try work on this. i also stated 52000 as funds available too..dats aw i broke it down.

Thanks, bro. I appreciate your insight.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TheBae: 11:56pm On Aug 20, 2015
I like the way your mind works too. Lol
thesoj:
Lol. true true. I like the way your mind works. smiley grin

Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by SeraSera(m): 11:58pm On Aug 20, 2015
eetti:
Lets get something straight.
1) you do not sum anything up to get funds available for your stay .
2) you need at least $10,000 per year to support yourself.
If your school likes let them specify that you need $8,681 for accommodation and feeding. What about books, transport and clothes?
CIC wants you to have $10,000 so you can provide for the 'other' needs.
@graviton you used your own hand to kill yourself you should not have written $52,000 for funds available for your stay.
Do you have $52,000 as pocket money? That section implies the $10,000 and above requirement specified by CIC for all provinces in Canada with the exception of Quebec where the requirement is $12,000 and above.

I sit to be corrected sha...


This is not the problem. Matter of fact, I can guarantee you that this is not the reason why the man's application was not successful. If it were, I should also have been denied. As per room and board and all that being less than $10, 000 etc., I can also guarantee, from personal experience, that this is not the reason why the man was denied. I don't think these were a factor at all.

@Graviton2, in my opinion, it comes down to the account balance. I agree with @thesoj's suggestion regarding the spreadsheet and stuff. That could do the trick. In addition to your father substantially increasing his account balance, of course.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by deedee0: 11:58pm On Aug 20, 2015
I think it depends on the SOA and source of sponsor's income/funds.
Despite the number of dependants, I stated:
Room and Board: 8000 CAD
Others: 5000CAD
Available funds: 61k because there was fixed deposit that will mature at the same time I'm required to pay my tuition, it was easy for my sponsor to state that the fixed deposit will cater for my stay in Canada.
If it isn't a fixed deposit or some other investment plan, dnt state all the money your sponsor has.
If tuition + room + others is about 25k, u can state 28k above as available funds, just make sure your sponsor's documents can meet up
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Graviton2(m): 12:01am On Aug 21, 2015
@thesoj, @berexio1, @thebae, @ahyotomiwa

So You are all saying I should:

- Boost my sponsor's account to perhaps 12M
- Fill about $5k-6k in the "Other" section, so the combined about for both the "Room and board" section + "Other" section equals or is more than $10k

Am I missing anything else?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TheBae: 12:07am On Aug 21, 2015
I would advice you to beef it a tad bit higher than 12M since you're going for UG. Also get a more buoyant co-sponsor.
Also, as @deedee0 pointed out, having a fixed deposit will work in your favour if your sponsor states that it's solely for your study and it matures in due time.
I think the first thing you need to do is to really think about not refiring anytime too soon. A 3rd denial is not what you need. Take your time to make things right.
Graviton2:
@thesoj, @berexio1, @thebae, @ahyotomiwa

So You are all saying I should:

- Boost my sponsor's account to perhaps 12M
- Fill about $5k-6k in the "Other" section, so the combined about for both the "Room and board" section + "Other" section equals or is more than $10k

Am I missing anything else?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by deedee0: 12:14am On Aug 21, 2015
TheBae:
I would advice you to beef it a tad bit higher than 12M since you're going for UG. Also get a more buoyant co-sponsor.
Also, as @deedee0 pointed out, having a fixed deposit will work in your favour if your sponsor states that it's solely for your study and it matures in due time.
I think the first thing you need to do is to really think about not refiring anytime too soon. A 3rd denial is not what you need. Take your time to make things right.
Exactly!
Graviton2 I think you should fix the money. Personally I dnt trust NG banks! And can't leave 12M in an account oo! TheBae.. If u laugh there cheesy
Just take your time.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Graviton2(m): 12:17am On Aug 21, 2015
eetti:


Having the stated amount in the sponsor's account does nail it, you have to show prove that the sponsor would give you that amount of money, this people don't earn that in a year and you claim that amount of money would be available to you. It sounds fishy.

I was NOT saying $52k was available for my stay in a year, man. I meant it was available to be paid over a period of time. The money has been set aside for my studies.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TheBae: 12:17am On Aug 21, 2015
Lmao! You want to start again this night abi! Take time oh
deedee0:

Exactly!
Graviton2 I think you should fix the money. Personally I dnt trust NG banks! And can't leave 12M in an account oo! TheBae.. If u laugh there cheesy
Just take your time.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Graviton2(m): 12:23am On Aug 21, 2015
TheBae:
I would advice you to beef it a tad bit higher than 12M since you're going for UG. Also get a more buoyant co-sponsor.
Also, as @deedee0 pointed out, having a fixed deposit will work in your favour if your sponsor states that it's solely for your study and it matures in due time.
I think the first thing you need to do is to really think about not refiring anytime too soon. A 3rd denial is not what you need. Take your time to make things right.

Thank you. I will work on it. I just want to know where I stand on the "Room, board and Other" issue.

Also, in the "funds available for stay" was I wrong to have filled 52k, should I dial it down.

I'm beginning to feel very depressed right now
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Joe980: 12:36am On Aug 21, 2015
Graviton2:


Thank you. I will work on it. I just want to know where I stand on the "Room, board and Other" issue.

Also, in the "funds available for stay" was I wrong to have filled 52k, should I dial it down.

I'm beginning to feel very depressed right now
Don't be depressed bro..."it's not over till you win". As regards "Room, board and other; you are cool with it, would just advice you input about 5k for others. Add all these together and top up with miscellaneous i.e flight etc (6k). This would flow for available funds. Key things I observed missing in your documents are; your dad's properties (these are financial stand) and would want you to ensure submitting six months bank statement. Giving them 3 months and 2months could have kept the vo in the dark while trying to decide your sponsors capabilities.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Graviton2(m): 12:42am On Aug 21, 2015
Joe980:
Don't be depressed bro..."it's not over till you win". As regards "Room, board and other; you are cool with it, would just advice you input about 5k for others. Add all these together and top up with miscellaneous i.e flight etc (6k). This would flow for available funds. Key things I observed missing in your documents are; your dad's properties (these are financial stand) and would want you to ensure submitting six months bank statement. Giving them 3 months and 2months could have kept the vo in the dark while trying to decide your sponsors capabilities.

I included my father's company documents, ownership documents for 2cars and a recent government contract award letter worth 13M.

You are saying I should input around how much exactly for the "funds available" section? I didn't quite understand that part in your post.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by kennykentipsy: 12:45am On Aug 21, 2015
berexio1:
it doesn't have to be 10k exact..CIC gives a margin of 10k for living expenses for a year..This includes food, room, board..In my opinion..Room and Board + Other should add up to atleast 10k. Bt expences vary and the figure he put there is quite reasonable too..

Insufficient fund is what it is..Boost ur sponsor's account..U are going for UG program..If grads are requiring 6m..urs should be double that..12m in ur sponsor's account will do the trick..

Cheers!

in my case i put 6k for room and board maybe it depends on the location eg Toronto is expensive u might need move than 6k
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TheBae: 12:47am On Aug 21, 2015
If I were you, I'd do either of the following:
1). Fix at least $60kCAD (stating in SOP the money was fixed for my studies and will mature on time) and state 20k as room and board and the balance as others such that that amount covers at least 2years of my stay while still providing 2 savings SOAs (dad/mum and co-sponsor) with maybe 5M each just to show that they'll still survive well either way. OR

2). State $50,000CAD to conveniently cover 2yrs (state this in SOP) and not strain SOA. Feed the savings account some fertiliser and make it go up to about 15M+ and my co-sponsor's maybe about 10M + shares etc. And provide landed documents and assets. Maybe do an evaluation of my dad's landed properties and state how much my kid brother needs yearly for his school. I would also notarize both sponsorship letters (especially the co-sponsor if she's not a parent).
You don't need to be depressed. You see testimonies of people who got TRV on their 4th attempt here. We don't pray that it gets to that for you but if they could get it, you can. Funny enough, when I saw your reason for delay I silently sighed "thank God, he'll be able to tackle that clearly with no confusion". Just do your best and leave the rest.

This is my 50cent, I hope it helps smiley
Graviton2:


Thank you. I will work on it. I just want to know where I stand on the "Room, board and Other" issue.

Also, in the "funds available for stay" was I wrong to have filled 52k, should I dial it down.

I'm beginning to feel very depressed right now

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Joe980: 12:50am On Aug 21, 2015
Graviton2:


I included my father's company documents, ownership documents for 2cars and a recent government contract award letter worth 13M.

You are saying I should input around how much exactly for the "funds available" section? I didn't quite understand that part in your post.
Cars basically depreciate. Include landed properties. C of O or survey, evaluation etc. Government contract could be terminated(not been real) just sealing holes. Funds available should be tuition + room n board + others, then add 6k thereabout. Just tell dad to up closing balance this time around and 6 months statement. You are good to go. I am advising you based on what I did. Was delayed with same reason as yours and mine even had K leg.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by kennykentipsy: 12:56am On Aug 21, 2015
TheBae:
You can go to IOM without booking, it's only advisable to book, not compulsory. But you have to pay and go with your teller or you won't be attended to. From what I've been hearing lately, IOM is getting fussy about high blood pressure and demanding cardio regularly these days so if you're not confident about that, you might want to try Q-life. I don't know how long it takes them to send medical results though

it not IOM that' request for cardio test cic contacts the clinic requesting the patient to come for further test i had high blood pressure of 150/100 and cic didn't request further tests but a friend had 120/90 and cic requested further test so it all in Cic's hand not IOM
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TemmieDeal: 1:04am On Aug 21, 2015
Pls am new on nairaland. But this canada pgd prog talk seems very interesting. I also wana go jan 2016 and am equally appkying for pgd in human resources. Wana know aw long and aw sure the whole process is. Esp for conestoga college. And aw the work permit tin works.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TemmieDeal: 1:06am On Aug 21, 2015
Omonjoe:
NO.I guess ur school is Conestoga College
If u re applying for ur TRV online, u will be asked if worked is an essential component of ur studies and since its Co-OP, u answer YES. u will be asked to upload an evidence of work requirement in study. So I will advice u email plemieux@conestogac.on.ca nd also copy internationaladmissions@conestogac.on.ca requesting for a Letter stating that work is a necessary requirement for the completion of ur studies.
I am also going for same course Jan 2016
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 1:10am On Aug 21, 2015
@Graviton2, just sent you a mail. Btw, you don't need a Letter of Clarification if your SOP covers whatever you want to convince the officer about. It's all up to you. For my sister, we used a separate Letter of Clarification because I wanted to write a different letter to address the "insufficient funds" issue.
@TheBae, you are one super helpful person... I like smiley

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 1:23am On Aug 21, 2015
Go through these links posted by richcasey, and read the last one hundred pages if you are in a hurry. Preferably, start from page one of Part 8 (and/or any previous Part).
TemmieDeal:
Pls am new on nairaland. But this canada pgd prog talk seems very interesting. I also wana go jan 2016 and am equally appkying for pgd in human resources. Wana know aw long and aw sure the whole process is. Esp for conestoga college. And aw the work permit tin works.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by ayooluwatoni(m): 2:14am On Aug 21, 2015
thesoj:
Thanks a lot for responding! Yeah I have decided that we will not defer the admission. The sponsor will prepay one year's tuition (will attach receipt) to the school and will also fund my bro's domiciliary account in the amount of his estimated annual living expenses; both the sponsor and my bro will explain this to the VO. The dom account in my bro's name will be the only SOA he will submit with the application. His own regular SOA is close to zero lol.

He has been self-employed as a freelance computer programmer for the past four years, since after NYSC; he will attach the CAC document of his company registration. He will also attach notarized Attestation of Work letters from a number of his clients (one is a hospital, another is an accounting firm, another is a school), describing the software he built for them. He will also attach snapshots of some of the enterprise software he has created. He won't be submitting payslips or an employment letter. (Imo, his chances of getting the visa are lower than my sister's, but we will try our best). Imo, the risk that he will get a "Personal Assets & Financial Status" is nontrivial so we will write a dynamite SOP that is persuasive and comprehensive. My bro is going for a PGD in Mobile Solutions (Apps) Development, he has a BSc in Computer Science.

Unless I change my mind at the last minute, I have decided that the sponsor will state the only other dependent (my sister) in his sponsorship letter. The sponsor will also attach receipts showing he's already paid for my sister's annual expenses. I'll play it safe by providing all information to the VO, given that there's more than enough funds in the sponsor's account for both.

I want to thank everyone else (@Teesboy @TheBae @SeraSera @deedee0 @tnuola @Team12 @berexio1) that pitched in their suggestion in response to my question. Much appreciated. Any other suggestion is appreciated too. Thanks smiley

Stating the dependent should not limit your brother's chances. But I don't think you need to go into full details about your sister, that is, she's studying in Canada. You can leave that to the VO to determine; while you just state she's starting a master's prog which will last for 2 years in January and her sponsorship will not in any way affect ur brother's. Pls if u also av time to go through the process of sponsor's bank statement and other sponsor's doc u provided for your sister, pls provide for him too......it worked for your sister, let's hope it will work for him too. I believe it should give more weight to the sponsor's claim of having sufficient funds to sponsor both of them...... No matter how you calculate the living expenses, make sure it is not less than 10k cad, even if it means making the variance "miscellaneous expenses".

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 2:53am On Aug 21, 2015
Thanks for the excellent advice, bro. Yes, he will also include all the same sponsor documents as we did for my sister's application. What I had meant in the quoted post was that the only submitted SOA that is in my bro's name is the dom account one.
I will package the application very tightly and hope for the best. My main concern is that I don't want the VO to give a "Personal Assets and Financial Status" denial, so we need to write an extraordinary SOP!

ayooluwatoni:

Stating the dependent should not limit your brother's chances. But I don't think you need to go into full details about your sister, that is, she's studying in Canada. You can leave that to the VO to determine; while you just state she's starting a master's prog which will last for 2 years in January and her sponsorship will not in any way affect ur brother's. Pls if u also av time to go through the process of sponsor's bank statement and other sponsor's doc u provided for your sister, pls provide for him too......it worked for your sister, let's hope it will work for him too. I believe it should give more weight to the sponsor's claim of having sufficient funds to sponsor both of them...... No matter how you calculate the living expenses, make sure it is not less than 10k cad, even if it means making the variance "miscellaneous expenses".

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Onyeoma3: 3:11am On Aug 21, 2015
Graviton2:


I don't really understand the bolded - Do you mean if the total expenses for my study is around 21,000cad, I should have higher than that for my upkeep? That's about 40,000cad...Please clarify.

Undergrad. I'm 20 and I have a younger brother who is 11, how's that?

Your moniker made me think of Basketball..Dream team 12...lol
Team12:
Yes. I mean if the total expense is 21,000, you should state that you have may be like 25,000 available for your stay and the amount in your sponsor's account should be more that the 25,000. You feel me? But make sure that the amount you stated as available funds ties with the amount your dad states in his sponsorship letter o (if at all he stated it; and he should state that the 25,000 is the MINIMUM amount per year).

Since you have a little brother who is obviously over dependent on your parents, the VO does not expect your parents to spend all their money on you alone...

It's good that you have submitted other documents to proof source of future cash flow. That shows that your parents can afford to cover your expenses in subsequent years. So you are covered.


Sorry for the delay bro, the moment I saw what you stated as funds available for your stay, it struck my mind that you asked similar question when you wanted to reapply... People here gave you invaluable advice including our madam Team12.
I'm shocked that you still went ahead to fill what you had at the back of your mind (not really surprised you did that though)....Why then did you come seeking for advice about it in the 1st place??

Please bro, always take people's advise in cases like this ok (no offense meant). We are all in this same struggle together, no one will mislead you here on purpose...

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Onyeoma3: 4:06am On Aug 21, 2015
@thesoj... Nice job in here bro. I'll advise you put it this way in the affidavit of sponsorship "Apart from Mr....., I have one other dependant and I spend a total of.... (the equivalent amount he stated he will spend for your sister annually) on her education annually".

I feel it is detailed enough cos your bro will state your sis in his family info form, I believe your sis did the same too. This will automatically correlate and make sense/pass the message to the VO that they have the same sponsor who seems to be dedicated to their education.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Onyeoma3: 4:13am On Aug 21, 2015
tnuola:


Don't defer since all you're waiting for is for your passport to get to you.
Mail your school to inform them , print their response and show it at the POE, schools normally give internatioal students grace to resume a bit late.

It is if you defer till jan wen ure trv is ready now that you'll have issues at the poe, what you should do now is book your ticket and prepare for your trip

My personal person madam Tnuola, I'm loyal ooo... I don't think it matters if he defers till January and travels then. It'll give him more time to prepare well and do shakara for all those girls wey dey do guy for him since, let them know he has arrived. Once the school agrees to give him a letter for January start date, he should be fine.

I got my TRV in December and traveled 8 months later. I only had to get a new admission letter.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Onyeoma3: 4:18am On Aug 21, 2015
Gamboh55:
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The issue is that when I explained to the school, they immediately told me that they will defer my admission to january so I can have time to pick my passport n make arrangement. I a bit paranoid

Don't be paranoid bro... Once you have your TRV on your kpali, get a new offer letter for January start date and take your time to prepare if you can't meet up for September... This is advisable mostly if you're coming for a 2 year program sha. I won't advise it for a 1-year program. All the best...
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by sholay2011(m): 5:07am On Aug 21, 2015
thesoj:
Go through these links posted by richcasey, and read the last one hundred pages if you are in a hurry. Preferably, start from page one of Part 8 (and/or any previous Part).
You must be a good researcher. The way you just hyperlink info and reference to the particular source of info is admirable.
Did you have to type the URL or how did you do the hyperlink reference? I want to learn sir. Thanks.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by montrealer: 5:48am On Aug 21, 2015
You've a very good CGPA. You might be eligible for funding. Don't limit yourself to just applying to schools with low tuition.
cutiefy:
tanx ayooluwatoni, my cgpa is over 4.0 . do u ve any idea, the school I can apply with low tuition. tanx

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by ChicoBoy: 5:50am On Aug 21, 2015
Goodmorning fam.

Please how do I go about the affidavit of sponsorship?? The company where I work is co-sponsoring. Should the affidavit be printed on company letter head?

I guess the amount to be contributed should equally be stated on the document, right?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by justicia: 6:11am On Aug 21, 2015
Supermum:


I thought the same until minnietope applied for the spousal open work permit with her hubby and got it.

My husband applied for SOWP not EE.

Supermum, abeg I need ur help on this SOWP thingy o, planing to do it for my wife and kid once am in Canada. Am I the one to apply for it or its my wife that will apply for it. And I have checked www.cic.gc.ca, I couldn't find her a any link to it, could u pls direct me pls. Thank you. CC: Team12
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 6:21am On Aug 21, 2015
Thank you. See the attached image for how to create a hyperlink in the Nairaland text editor.
Also, I am quite ok at using different tricks to use google to find most things, even content on Nairaland.

Also, it is easier to use Google to find something that I've once read on this thread so long as I remember a key phrase from the post. In addition, I also have a document where I save links from this thread that I consider to contain extremely high value information.

sholay2011:
You must be a good researcher. The way you just hyperlink info and reference to the particular source of info is admirable.
Did you have to type the URL or how did you do the hyperlink reference? I want to learn sir. Thanks

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 6:23am On Aug 21, 2015
@Chicoboy
Yes it should be on company letterhead and the company should state why they are sponsoring you and the amount per year. It would also be beneficial if they stated info like what you do for them, how your education would benefit the company, when they expect you back, how your role will change once you come back, etc. Basically, they should include all possible info that the VO may wonder about.

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