pazienza:


Ndiigbo believed that Buhari was sectional, parochial and bigoted.

So far, has Buhari proven us wrong?

The Igbos that are with him, those that betrayed their people's stance to stand with Buhari, how has Buhari treated them so far?

Ndiigbo had genuine reasons to believe that Buhari was a tribal bigot see this:http://scannewsnigeria.com/politics/buhari-the-only-leader-ever-who-voted-against-his-nation/


And so refused to vote for him, the onus was on Buhari to prove us wrong by being fair to us in his appointments, but so far, all he had done was confirm our suspicions about him.

So based on this one (probably concoted) story, the whole of Igboland made a decision to hate Buhari? This write up is obviously one negative campaign strategies adopted by PDP just before the election. It was still harping on certificate forgery campaigns against Buhari. It veered off point to whip up emotional sentiments on unequal cut off marks for unity schools. The writer who i suspect is Igbo could not even spell Buhari right.

Now tell me how many voters read this story before deciding to hate Buhari? are you telling 95% of Igbos read and believed this story?

Buhari has nothing to prove, you guys have already labelled him as an illiterate, terrorist, religious and ethnic bigot, i doubt there is anything he can do or say that will change your minds. The onus is on you people to discuss and reconcile your differences amicably, further exasperating the situation would not be in the interest of the Igbos (at least during his reign as president).

I recommend "The Prince" by Machiavelli and 48 laws of power by Robert Greene for every Igbo leader and politician to understand how to play the game of power.

wirinet:


So based on this one (probably concoted) story, the whole of Igboland made a decision to hate Buhari? This write up is obviously one negative campaign strategies adopted by PDP just before the election. It was still harping on certificate forgery campaigns against Buhari. It veered off point to whip up emotional sentiments on unequal cut off marks for unity schools. The writer who i suspect is Igbo could not even spell Buhari right.

Now tell me how many voters read this story before deciding to hate Buhari? are you telling 95% of Igbos read and believed this story?

Buhari has nothing to prove, you guys have already labelled him as an illiterate, terrorist, religious and ethnic bigot, i doubt there is anything he can do or say that will change your minds. The onus is on you people to discuss and reconcile your differences amicably, further exaspirating the situation would not be in the interest of the Igbos (at least during his reign as president).

I recommend "The Prince" by Machiavelli for every Igbo leader and politician to understand how to play the game of power.

How has Buhari treated the few Igbos that stood with him, the Ogbonnnaya onu, the Ngige of this world?
You stylishly circumvented that question.

Buhari is incapable of rising above sectional and parochial interests.

The Peter onu story is true and not a propaganda.

pazienza:


How has Buhari treated the few Igbos that stood with him, the Ogbonnnaya onu, the Ngige of this world?
You stylishly circumvented that question.

The keyword here is "few". Only 5% of Igbos supported Buhari. You can see from Buhari's body language (and verbal too) that is he pained that only 5% igbos supported him. Not not 20% or even 10%, but only 5%.

Don't worry, the "few" igbos that supported him would bet ministerial or other appointments. Ngige and Ogbonnaya Onu would definitely get ministerial appointments. The problem i see is that Igbos might not get favours from the Buhari administration if you people do not quickly reconcile your differences with him.

Buhari is incapable of rising above sectional and parochial interests.

This just confirms what i said earlier, you mind is already made up, There is nothing Buhari can do to change your mind.

The Peter onu story is true and not a propaganda.

Then provide a collaborating link or source to this Peter Onu story. Also where is Onu's own version and other involved parties. A jugde cannot find a person guilty based on one side of the story.

Ilekeh:


I don't know what's making you think we don't need each other's help.

yes,but only from the very very strong ones.....a lot of them have lost their minds completely,,,understandeble by such a long time of oppression,anybodys mind would snap.....

wirinet:


The keyword here is "few". Only 5% of Igbos supported Buhari. You can see from Buhari's body language (and verbal too) that is he pained that only 5% igbos supported him. Not not 20% or even 10%, but only 5%.

Don't worry, the "few" igbos that supported him would bet ministerial or other appointments. Ngige and Ogbonnaya Onu would definitely get ministerial appointments. The problem i see is that Igbos might not get favours from the Buhari administration if you people do not quickly reconcile your differences with him.



This just confirms what i said earlier, you mind is already made up, There is nothing Buhari can do to change your mind.

Then provide a collaborating link or source to this Peter Onu story. Also where is Onu's own version and other involved parties. A jugde cannot find a person guilty based on one side of the story.

The story was collaborated by a neutral well informed person, read the link I posted well.

Or better still check out this thread:https://www.nairaland.com/2449769/did-buhari-really-refuse-vote

XBLadez:

Otu gbawa nne gi ebe ahu! It's your type that make silly bigots like Lastpage and Egift ridicule the Igbos because you always make demands for what you know you can't get. Fool! Go and die!

Keep quiet, must you insult our elders,,, while airin your view,,, u lack manner

pazienza:


Show just one article where Ndiigbo said that kachikwu is not one of us.

Ndi ara.

Thank God you said Ndiigbo; you have answered my question

When PMB appointed NNPC Boss the complain
was he is not Igbo enough, When he appointed
IRS Boss the complain was his certificate is fake,
now he appointed 3 muslims, 3 christians giving
minorities some voice the complain is North vs
South. People forget that Buhari is still
maintaining IG of Police, CBN governor among
other heads of parastatals that are southerners.
May be we are destined to be doomed. May be
this is who we are as a people and thats why
Nigeria is retrogressing. We are such backward
thinkers and degenerative minds full of hate. Its
unfortunate though to say the least.

pazienza:


Trash. APC never had any plans of making Ngige the Senate president, stop talking trash.

If Ngige had been elected, it would have been a standing battle between Saraki and Ngige since they both were first elected into the Senate in 2011.

Saraki was never the choice of the APC for Senate president for starters.

But looking at it like this: No Igbo legislator under the current set is qualified to even vie for the position let alone be selected as one already made it alright for Saraki to win.

Think about it.

MadCow1:



If Ngige had been elected, it would have been a standing battle between Saraki and Ngige since they both were first elected into the Senate in 2011.

Saraki was never the choice of the APC for Senate president for starters.

But looking at it like this: No Igbo legislator under the current set is qualified to even vie for the position let alone be selected as one already made it alright for Saraki to win.

Think about it.

You make no sense. You mean Ekweremadu should have let the Arewa-Odua have their way? Lol! Ekweremadu did well puting a wedge between the Arewa-Odua and 're writing their political script. That is political sophistication at work.

You are retarded if you think the Arewa-Odua elements in APC, would have allowed the emergence of an Igbo, when they were already fighting each other over the post. Ekweremadu simply took advantage of the Odua-Arewa power tussle to displace the odua. *grins

Nwata na ebu uzo gaa ije tupu ogbawa oso. Let the APC first reward Ngige with juicy appointment post, so that we can access if they would have made him the Senate president.
You no fit dash me five naira now that I am wearing shorts, but you dey yarn say you for give me a million pounds if to say I dress wella. *grins

pazienza:


There is no "We", you are not an Igbo, right from your Okija juju days.

APC couldn't give Ndiigbo that are with them appointment posts , it's now Senate presidency that they will give to them without reminding them as usual that majority of Ndiigbo didn't vote for Buhari and APC, when they almost killed themselves because of Ekweremadu emergence as a deputy Senate president.

Nobody trusts a traitor, the Igbos in APC will get exactly what the rest of us not with APC will get from this government, and that is nada, nothing, nil, null, take your pick.

They( Igbo APC) are the real losers in this political era, they are not trusted enough by their Arewa-Odua Odua masters to be given juicy posts, no one trust traitors, yet they have been rendered politically irrelevant in Alaigbo as no Igbo person would want to have anything to do with APC, soon they will become political liabilities to APC, and will finally be dumped into political dustbin, never to be heard from again.

I stopped arguing this 'You are not igbo' a long time ago.. You and I are two different breeds of Igbos. You think differently and I think differently and hold different values. Just because a person does not worship Ojukwu and chant Biafra everytime does not stop that person from being who they are by birth. Agukwu Nri is my village, it does not get more Igbo than that: Nigga ju ese..

Ekweremadu that you said was fought by the APC still got the vote of confidence from the same house with majority APC lawmakers.

Okorocha is the strongest Igbo man in the APC party and he is Governor of his state. If the 'real Igbos' feel this way about the APC, why then are you seeing positions in a Government you don't support?


Nwokem, gerarahia for reel men shiii..

You can't eat your cake and have. The Igbo can foolishly stick to that mushroom party called APGA and keep crying about marginalisation or they can get long spoons and start dining with the devil and use the wit we are known for to get what we want.

pazienza:


You make no sense. You mean Ekweremadu should have let the Arewa-Odua have their way? Lol! Ekweremadu did well puting a wedge between the Arewa-Odua and 're writing their political script. That is political sophistication at work.

You are retarded if you think the Arewa-Odua elements in APC, would have allowed the emergence of an Igbo, when they were already fighting each other over the post. Ekweremadu simply took the advantage of the Odua-Arewa power tussle to displace the odua. *grins

Nwata na ebu uzo gaa ije tupu ogbawa oso. Let the APC first reward Ngige with juicy appointment post, so that we can access if they would have made him the Senate president.

Well Ekweremadu's stunt may lose him the seat. I doubt the house would have made a Yoruba man deputy senate speaker with Dogora in the lower house and Saraki as the Speaker..

I too await to see what happens to Ngige. I don't see him becoming a minister especially if President Buhari plans to use Technocrats for Ministers. I am still observing. I feel Ngiges best shot was lost when he lost the elections.

MadCow1:



I stopped arguing this 'You are not igbo' a long time ago.. You and I are two different breeds of Igbos. You think differently and I think differently and hold different values. Just because a person does not worship Ojukwu and chant Biafra everytime does not stop that person from being who they are by birth. Agukwu Nri is my village, it does not get more Igbo than that: Nigga ju ese..

Ekweremadu that you said was fought by the APC still got the vote of confidence from the same house with majority APC lawmakers.

Okorocha is the strongest Igbo man in the APC party and he is Governor of his state. If the 'real Igbos' feel this way about the APC, why then are you seeing positions in a Government you don't support?


Nwokem, gerarahia for reel men shiii..

You can't eat your cake and have. The Igbo can foolishly stick to that mushroom party called APGA and keep crying about marginalisation or they can get long spoons and start dining with the devil and use the wit we are known for to get what we want.

Taa gbafuo! APC members didn't purposely vote for Ekweremadu, their hands were forced, they had internal party divisions and Saraki division needed Ekweremadu led PDP senators support to emerge victorious.

It was a deal. When the going went tough, saraki sought Ekweremadu support, that's the advantage those that stand their ground and with their people will always command respect and influence even from their political enemies, while efulefus like Onu and Ngige will get nothing but neglect and scorn from the outsiders they chose to pitch their net with.

I don't know what went wrong in Imo, but I believe after 4years, Okorocha will go the way of Amaechi, his APC candidate will be soundly disgraced.

You were never Igbo, you forgot all too well that you once admitted being from Ogba in Rivers state, you are right, you don't need to dwell on the I am Igbo, I am not Igbo drama.

It had long been settled.

pazienza:


Taa gbafuo! APC members didn't purposely vote for Ekweremadu, their hands were forced, they had internal party divisions an. Saraki division needed Ekweremadu led PDP senators support to emerge,

It was a deal. When the going went tough, saraki sought Ekweremadu support, that's the advantage those that stand their ground and with their people will always command respect and influence even from their political enemies, while efulefus like Onu and Ngige will get nothing but neglect and scorn from the outsiders they chose to pitch their net with.

I don't know what went wrong in Imo, but I believe after 4years, Okorocha will go the way of Amaechi, his APC candidate will be soundly disgraced.

You were never Igbo, you forgot all too well that you once admitted being from Ogba in Rivers state, you are right, you don't need to dwell on the I am Igbo, I am not Igbo drama.

It had long been settled.

Well.. We shall see what happens with the House leadership tussle and watch how it plays out.

And yes you are correct, I am also Ogba.. Best of both worlds. Can't hate a nigga for having Dual 'Originship' can you?

MadCow1:



Well.. We shall see what happens with the House leadership tussle and watch how it plays out.

And yes you are correct, I am also Ogba.. Best of both worlds. Can't hate a nigga for having Dual 'Originship' can you?

Well , nothin will happen, Buhari is running a Northern government, Saraki is a fulani northerner, his kinsman for that matter.

We have heard the last of the Senate president tussle, the Odua losing out is no concern of Buhari.

I believe you are from Ogba, while Agu ukwu nri is either where you married from or your maternal hometown
But of the fact that you are from Ogba Rivers state, I have no iota of doubt about that.

Anyway, I personally consider Ogba as part and parcel of Igbo land, because of pro Igbo tendencies of proud Igbo men of Ogba origin like Ogbuehi francis Ellah, the now late Eze Ogba.

But the fact is that most Ogba people are Igbophobic in outlook, as can be testified by your constantly anti Igbo comments on this forum, right from the days of onlytruth. Your people even went as far as changing the title Eze Ogba to Oba of Ogba, just to run away from Igbo tag, how pathetic can that be?

As close as Igbanke in Edo state is to Bini, the Igbanke people still retained their Eze title, but Ogba that is in no way close to Edo made up frivolous history stories linking them to Bini, and went on to add salt to injury by changing the name of their monarch from Eze to Oba.

I have no problem with a proud Igbo man with pro Igbo outlook from Ogba identifying as Igbo, Eze Ogbuehi Ellah of Ogba was pro Igbo throughout his life, and Ndiigbo never ceased to honour him, he even represented Ndiigbo in a national conference 1999, but I have a big problem with a clearly Igbophobic Ogba Man, whose comments are always Igbophobic claiming Igbo.

Tripleclick:
Keep quiet, must you insult our elders,,, while airin your view,,, u lack manner

Who are the elders? The ones that give a fvck about you or don't care if you exist?

Standing5:
Really! When something is unacceptable to someone he takes an action after expressing his opinion. Let's wait n see what happens if any.
After spitefully voting against Buhari i doubt they have anymore moves up their sleeves

[size=28pt]WICKED [/size]

pazienza:


Well , nothin will happen, Buhari is running a Northern government, Saraki is a fulani northerner, his kinsman for that matter.

Re-ea-ally? A lot of your kinsmen on Nairaland have labelled him as 'Yoruba.' Now, who do we believe, hmmn??

pazienza:

As close as Igbanke in Edo state is to Bini, the Igbanke people still retained their Eze title, but Ogba that is in no way close to Edo made up frivolous history stories linking them to Bini, and went on to add salt to injury by changing the name of their monarch from Eze to Oba.

Well, that is not the way I heard the story of the Igbanke people, oh. Kindly find below a short synopsis about the community. It was published online by one of their towns' union, abroad.

Igbanke National Union:

Nigeria: Igbanke Community's Search for Better Healthcare Delivery
_{By Isaac Olamika, Benin}

A trip to Igbanke from Ring Road, the commercial nerve centre of Benin City, the Edo State capital, will take at least one hour. For a first time visitor, the signpost to the town which lies in Orhionmwon Local Government Area on the Benin - Asaba Express Road is the Light House Polytechnic; a tertiary institution owned the New Covenant Church. Just opposite the institution's gate is the road that leads to the town.

Historically, Igbanke is made up of six autonomous communities namely: Omolua, Ottah, Idumuodin, Ake, Oligia and Igbontor. Each of the six communities has an Enogie - king. The indigenes of the town trace their history to Benin kingdom where they disclosed they migrated from many decades ago. The language spoken in Igbanke sounds similar to the one spoken by their neighbours, the people of Agbor and some of the surrounding towns in the northern part of Delta State. http://www.igbankenationalunion.com/

lastpage:


When Ibos were voting along "Ethnic lines", they did not shout federal Character!
When Ibos told us if Jonathan does not win, Nigeria would burn, they forgot federal Character then
When Ibos, despite the glaring decapitation of the Nigerian economy under Jonathan, they wanted him there simply for Ethnic reasons
When Ibos were insulting Yorubas that supported Jonathan to assume the Presidency in 2009 and then in 2001, they forgot federal Character then
When Ibos were telling themselves that Buahri is a Northerner, a terrorist and Boko haram, they forgot we were one Nigeria then
When Ibos were calling Niegria a Zoo, they forgot that the Zoo was a "Federal Zoo" and they were part of it
When Ibos were encouraging that lunatic called kanu to be disparaging our country, they forgot they will #Wail over appointments later!

Honestly, if l were Ibos, l would keep my bloody mouth shut and just whimper internally while waiting to play a more "sophisticated game" next time around.
Ibos were the ones that polarised the last

Although, you're a hateful bigot, the emboldened has been my standpoint since the pre-election period. And this is why I've been spitting curses on our so-called Ohaneze Ndigbo representatives. I'm a PDP stan to the core. If a Yoruba man had contested for presidency, I would still have voted him. It's a game to me; if I win, I jubilate. If I lose, I shut up and strategise for a stronger comeback. I'm not supposed to expect any token from the winning opponent coz I wouldn't give them a dime if I were him. But if they give me....fine!

4) Igbanke is made up of six (6) autonomous clans: Ake/Obiogba, Idumu-Odin, Igbontor, Oligie, Omolua and Ottah. These clans were governed by traditional rulers called ‘’Eze or Obi’’. These terms were of Ika origin, but have been forcefully changed to ‘’Enogie’’ a Bini term by the conquering Binis.
5) Our ancestral heritage like language, names and beliefs are being systematically destroyed by the domineering power of the Binis.

ARGUMENTS IN SUPPORT OF ISSUES RAISED
1)Most Igbanke indigenes who have Ika ancestral names like, “Emeka”, “Maduka”, “Chukwuka’’, “Chinyere”, “Amaka and “Ogorchukwu etc are often confronted with all forms of harrowing experiences when there are needs to visit our council headquarters, Abudu to process one official documents or the other. We are often denied the issuance of documents like, ‘’Certificate of Local Government of origin’’, Protest Letter’’, To Whom it May Concern’’ etc on the guise that we are Igbos not Binis.

https://naijadebate./2014/12/10/a-thread-on-the-history-of-the-igbanke-people-of-edo-state/



Well, they say they are not Igbos, but atleast their original names and traditional titles says other wise, and they want those names and titles back, while Ogba decided to throw away her traditional Eze title for Oba.

On the Saraki's issue, Ndiigbo had always maintained that Saraki is a fulani man whose fulani ancestors conquered Ilorin and have been ruling the Yoruba natives there ever since.

It was the Yorubas in a typical Stockholm syndrome and "attache" by force that have been claiming that Saraki is a Yoruba man, ever since they( Yorubas) lost out in the power tussle of the NASS, to their Arewa masters.

pazienza:
Igbanke community is ruled by rulers with such titles as: Obi, Eze and Enogie depending on the village. That is at the kingship level.
http://universitiesprojectmaterials.com/english-language/98/satire-in-the-oral-poetry-of-igbanke

This is a project by one student in a university! And you chose to believe it, without checking if his comments were factual or if he cited any sources to corroborate his statements! Jeez! In your previous response which I quoted, you did NOT even say that Enogie was one of the kingship titles among the Igbanke. You made it seem as if Eze was the sole title of their kings!

I have given you a source which is a website put together by adult members of an entire community, who have formed themselves into a union. Is Enogie an Igbo word? And why do some of the Enogies bear Edo names?

So far so good, these people also got appointed under PMB.

- Special Adviser, Media and Publicity to the president: Femi Adesina, [Osun State, South-West].
- Chief of Defence Staff, Abayomi Olonishakin, [Ekiti State, South-West].
- Chief of Naval Staff: Ibok-Ete Ekwe Ibas, [Cross Rivers, South-South].
- Chief of Defence Intelligence: Monday Riku Morgan [Benue State, North-Central].
- Special Adviser, Niger Delta Amnesty Office: Paul Boroh, [Bayelsa State, South-South]
- Executive Chairman, Federal Inland Revenue Service, FIRS: Babatunde Fowler, [Lagos State, South-West].
- Group Managing Director, Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation, NNPC, Emmanuel Kachikwu, [Delta State, South-South].
- Comptroller-General, Nigerian Immigration Service: Kure Martin Abeshi, [Nasarawa State, North-Central].
- Senior Special Assistant on National Assembly Matters (Senate): Ita Enang, [Akwa Ibom State, South-South].
- Executive Director AMCON: Kola Ayeye.
- Executive Director, AMCON: Eberechukwu Uneze.

- Group Executive Director, NNPC, Isiaka Abdulrazaq.
- Group Executive Director, NNPC: Dennison Nnamdi Ajulu.
- Group Executive Director, NNPC: Babatunde Victor Adeniran.

Ministerial list never show o. Una don dey para.

pazienza:
4) Igbanke is made up of six (6) autonomous clans: Ake/Obiogba, Idumu-Odin, Igbontor, Oligie, Omolua and Ottah. These clans were governed by traditional rulers called ‘’Eze or Obi’’. These terms were of Ika origin, but have been forcefully changed to ‘’Enogie’’ a Bini term by the conquering Binis.
5) Our ancestral heritage like language, names and beliefs are being systematically destroyed by the domineering power of the Binis.

ARGUMENTS IN SUPPORT OF ISSUES RAISED
1)Most Igbanke indigenes who have Ika ancestral names like, “Emeka”, “Maduka”, “Chukwuka’’, “Chinyere”, “Amaka and “Ogorchukwu etc are often confronted with all forms of harrowing experiences when there are needs to visit our council headquarters, Abudu to process one official documents or the other. We are often denied the issuance of documents like, ‘’Certificate of Local Government of origin’’, Protest Letter’’, To Whom it May Concern’’ etc on the guise that we are Igbos not Binis.

https://naijadebate./2014/12/10/a-thread-on-the-history-of-the-igbanke-people-of-edo-state/



Well, they say they are not Igbos, but atleast their original names and traditional titles says other wise, and they want those names and titles back, while Ogba decided to throw away her traditional Eze title for Oba.

Why do you find it difficult to put forward balanced arguments? Your post makes it seem as if the Eze and Obi title is the de facto title of all the Igbanke kings or village heads. So how come a whole Igbanke town union did not acknowledge this so-called fact? And how come the title of Enogie is more prominent in Igbanke than that of Eze?

And why do those Enogies have Edo names? Not only that, names like Omorodion, Irabor, Uwaifo are also very prominent among Igbanke sons and daughters. So stop presenting a one-sided story, biko nu!

The same Ikaworld site also says the following:

Igbanke Now Belongs to The League
_{Azuka Osunde, Germany}

Monday, 03.12.2012, 11:29pm (GMT+1)

Igbanke is a town in Orhonmwon Local Govt. with six (6) villages independent of the other with each village headed by an Enogie (King).
Igbanke has produced men and women in (big) positions in all works of life, like Emman Decency, Justice Olubor, Osunde, Eni, Ucheka Eluhike, Ogbomor, Irabor Ken, Omo Disco, KOB, Ben Oghumu, Gabi Edobor, Late Benson Idahosa etc.

Igbanke is said to be the birth place of Dr. Ogbemudia. So we had some development in his time like the Local Library, Igbanke Grammar School, and the General Hospital. The Post office was built by the locals with their money and donated to the government in his time. But since he left government as a military ruler, the people of Igbanke have been left alone to lick their wounds.....
http://www.ikaworld.com/index.php?mod=article&cat=IkaArticles&article=1064

When has anything about Buhari ever become acceptable to the SE? His contest for the primaries was unacceptable, his victory at the primaries was unacceptable, his contest for the presidency was unacceptable, his eventual triumph to become the president up until recently was unacceptable.
So it is quiet strange to expect goodies from what was rejected ab initio. Reward is the product of wise investment. As business gurus, the SE should know that. A business abandoned yields no profit.

laudate:


Why do you find it difficult to put forward balanced arguments? Your post makes it seem as if the Eze and Obi title is the de facto title of all the Igbanke kings or village heads. So how come a whole Igbanke town union did not acknowledge this so-called fact? And how come the title of Enogie is more prominent in Igbanke than that of Eze?

And why do those Enogies have Edo names? Not only that, names like Omorodion, Irabor, Uwaifo are also very prominent among Igbanke sons and daughters. So stop presenting a one-sided story, biko nu!

The same Ikaworld site also says the following:

There is no one side of the story, Enogie only exists in some Igbanke clans because the Edo had been forcefully trying to assimilate the people, the original Igbanke word for King is Eze or Obi, Enogie is a result of Bini forceful occupation and attempt at assimilation of the area.
4) Igbanke is made up of six (6) autonomous clans: Ake/Obiogba, Idumu-Odin, Igbontor, Oligie, Omolua and Ottah. These clans were governed by traditional rulers called ‘’Eze or Obi’’. These terms were of Ika origin, but have been forcefully changed to ‘’Enogie’’ a Bini term by the conquering Binis.
5) Our ancestral heritage like language, names and beliefs are being systematically destroyed by the domineering power of the Binis.
ARGUMENTS IN SUPPORT OF ISSUES RAISED
1)Most Igbanke indigenes who have Ika ancestral names like, “Emeka”, “Maduka”, “Chukwuka’’, “Chinyere”, “Amaka and “Ogorchukwu etc are often confronted with all forms of harrowing experiences when there are needs to visit our council headquarters, Abudu to process one official documents or the other. We are often denied the issuance of documents like, ‘’Certificate of Local Government of origin’’, Protest Letter’’, To Whom it May Concern’’ etc on the guise that we are Igbos not Binis.
https://naijadebate./2014/12/10/a-thread-on-the-history-of-the-igbanke-people-of-edo-state/
Well, they say they are not Igbos, but atle

2) Those who have the likes of the Ika aforementioned names, but can speak Bini language are rarely subjected to the above embarrassments and discriminations. This act goes a long way to vindicate our fear that there is a subtle, but carefully planned agenda to make us lose and abandon our ancestral linguistic and cultural heritage.
3) In order to escape from these unnecessary embarrassments, some have no other option left than to change their identity from Ika to Bini names.


This is why we have Igbanke's with Bini names and Bini titles today.

It was as a result of Bini forceful assimilation of the people.

pazienza:


There is no one side of the story, Enogie only exists in some Igbanke clans because the Edo had been forcefully trying to assimilate the people, the original Igbanke word for King is Eze or Obi, Enogie is a result of Bini forceful occupation and attempt at assimilation of the area.
4) Igbanke is made up of six (6) autonomous clans: Ake/Obiogba, Idumu-Odin, Igbontor, Oligie, Omolua and Ottah. These clans were governed by traditional rulers called ‘’Eze or Obi’’. These terms were of Ika origin, but have been forcefully changed to ‘’Enogie’’ a Bini term by the conquering Binis.
5) Our ancestral heritage like language, names and beliefs are being systematically destroyed by the domineering power of the Binis.
ARGUMENTS IN SUPPORT OF ISSUES RAISED
1)Most Igbanke indigenes who have Ika ancestral names like, “Emeka”, “Maduka”, “Chukwuka’’, “Chinyere”, “Amaka and “Ogorchukwu etc are often confronted with all forms of harrowing experiences when there are needs to visit our council headquarters, Abudu to process one official documents or the other. We are often denied the issuance of documents like, ‘’Certificate of Local Government of origin’’, Protest Letter’’, To Whom it May Concern’’ etc on the guise that we are Igbos not Binis.
https://naijadebate./2014/12/10/a-thread-on-the-history-of-the-igbanke-people-of-edo-state/
Well, they say they are not Igbos, but atle

Your errors have been pointed out but you are still recycling the same one-sided story you quoted from your source.

The Igbanke people have Enogies as their kings. They may have been named Eze or Obi in the past, but right now their titles are Enogie, which are Bini titles. Fact!

Igbanke sons and daughters bear both Edo and Igbo names, not just Igbo names like you are trying to portray here. Fact!

Their rulers or Enogie bear Edo names! Fact!

So stop telling a one-sided story, that is skewed to fit your biased mind.

laudate:


Your errors have been pointed out but you are still recycling the same one-sided story you quoted from your source.

The Igbanke people have Enogies as their kings. They may have been named Eze or Obi in the past, but right now their titles are Enogie, which are Bini titles. Fact!

Igbanke sons and daughters bear both Edo and Igbo names, not just Igbo names like you are trying to portray here. Fact!

Their rulers or Enogie bear Edo names! Fact!

So stop telling a one-sided story, that is skewed to fit your biased mind.

Not all Igbanke clans have their leader with the Enogie title, some retained their Eze title- Fact.

Enogie title was forced on Igbanke by Edos and the people wish to revert back to their original Eze and Obi titles- Fact

The presence of Bini names amongst Igbankes is as a result of forceful assimilation of the People by Edo, and would gradually be replaced with Ika- Igbo ones the moment Igbanke is freed from Edo influence by returning them to Delta state- Fact

pazienza:


Not all Igbanke clans have their leader with the Enogie title, some retained their Eze title- Fact.

Enogie title was forced on Igbanke by Edos and the people wish to revert back to their original Eze and Obi titles- Fact

The presence of Bini names amongst Igbankes is as a result of forceful assimilation of the People by Edo, and would gradually be replaced with Ika- Igbo ones the moment Igbanke is freed from Edo influence by returning them to Delta state- Fact

All your attempts at revisionism is falling flat in its face. Igbanke is made up of 6 clans. Name all the Igbanke communities (not just one) that have an Eze ruling them.

Historically, Igbanke is made up of six autonomous communities namely of Omolua, Ottah, Idumuodin, Ake, Oligia and Igbontor. Each of the six communities has an Enogie as a king.

I can tell you four of the clans that already have Enogies, as their kings. HRH Dr Isaac Uwaifo, is the Enogie of Omolua.

Another one is HRH Blessing Otabor Igiebor, the Enogie of Idumodin in Igbanke. http://www.ikaworld.com/index.php?mod=article&cat=IkaNews&article=1001

Updated:

The Enogie of Igbontor is HRH Jeremiah Omorodion; and Enogie of Ottah-Igbanke, HRH J.C. Isitor
http://ihuanedo.ning.com/group/healtheducation/forum/topics/igbanke-bini-or-ika