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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:23pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
coogar:Drogba was a beast for the crucial occasion while Henry was a regular goal scorer in epl for arsenal. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:24pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
Henry scored more goals and had the more exquisite talent but there is no doubt that DD had the better performances when it was money time and against tough opposition. This can be seen when you analyze their EPL, UCL and Finals records. Both were beasts on their day so it is a very subjective debate |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:26pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
RooRuudRonSaha:You're absolutely on point. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mourinholic(m): 4:33pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
afrodoc2:On point....have been quiet on the issue because guys here just type rubbish as if its not debatable at all....... If you think Henry,fine....Drogba,cool....... But using 'far far better',such fellow need a rethink 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:36pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
coogar:Drogba played lesser games at international level when compared to Henry but had more goals. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:41pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
Mourinholic: It just depends on personal preference. In a league competition i would choose Henry because over the course of a season his talent will shine through and there will be goals galore. In a cup or knockout competition i would choose Didier because he is physically and mentally tougher, plays his best when the chips are down and the odds are against him and he almost never fails to rise to the occasion. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 4:42pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
afrodoc2:Gun to your head Who is the better player ? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:46pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
Mourinholic:Your last paragraph is why I'm still on this issue. If not sentiment, how will someone with football knowledge say that. It's sure debatable and I will go for DD anytime any day. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:53pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
afrodoc2:Bro. I'm not sure if you're a Man U fan, objectivity is uncommon among them. This is how sane mind devoid of sentiment should talk not throwing insults like a defenseless teen. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dyabman(m): 5:14pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
coogar: 50 yards my foot !! Coogar stop exaggerating !! .. Hazard can't play for Barcelona because he can't handle been under pressure ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:27pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
Daley Blind is too weak to be a central defender but mehn this Cillesen na confam akpere |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:30pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
SIRcumalot: Gun to my Head. Better player? Henry Gun to my Head. Final match or last 10minutes or 1 man down? Drogba |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 5:35pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
There's nothing subjective about it jor. Thiery Henry is the best striker to have played in the EPL era thus far. This is the guy many people felt was robbed of a Balon D'or at least twice. Drogba is a Legend, but Henry is already deified 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheNonce: 5:39pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:42pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
Nihilist: Henry is the better player but he had some high profile "no shows". Without thinking far i remember UEFA Cup final against 10 man Galatasaray( Hagi red carded) and the F.A Cup final against Liverpool. There was something of the flat track bully in Henry (like Berbatov LOL). Legend no doubt and he has a statue in front of the stadium but Drogba performed better in the big games IMO. In any situation other than a final match or desperation time last 10minutes e.t.c i would choose Henry but in a match for your lives i go with Drogba the ultimate overachiever. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 5:52pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
afrodoc2:As a coach, If I want to win tournaments I'll pick drogba but I'll pick Henry if I want to play league games( though drogba can beast league games also). |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 6:06pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
afrodoc2: What is this high profile 'No Show'? In 2003, Henry inspired Arsenal to a 5-1 Trashing of the Inter team that beat them 3-0 only a few weeks before to progress in the UCL In 2006, Henry went to shit on the Legacy of General Franco by scoring the goal that led Arsenal to become the 1st English team to ever win at the Bernabeu, Knocking Madrid out BTW Or is it the game against Liverpool that their unbeaten season when he rescued arsenal from a 2-1 deficit at halftime by scoring a Hattrick? How can Henry be labelled a High Profile no-show? Or a Flat Track Bully? Henry has scored against [size=18pt]34 of the 35 teams[/size] he has faced in the Barclays Premier League. The only team he faced and not scored against were Swansea City, against whom he played 24 minutes as a substitute during his brief comeback in the 2011/12 season. Messi hasn't scored in a World Cup or Copa America final. Would you even dare to compare Drogba to Messi on some frivolous 'Big Game Player' games. Doctor please...I'm a hard in the paint Chelsea fan...but comparing Drogba to Henry is an insult to va va voom. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:13pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
France 98, Uefa cup 2000 final, euro 2000 final, fa cup 2001 final, world cup 2002, euro 2004, world cup 2006, CL final 2006, euro 2008 Those were some of the high stakes stages where Henry did a Henry. He simply disappeared Drogba made sure his team won the CL final against all odds Henry made sure his team lost the CL final against all odds Most of the titles Henry won he simply tagged along it was only in the league that he scored for fun Big game for club or country Henry dissappeared 4 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coded01: 6:18pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
Less than 50% match fit Arda Turan finishing Netherlands at the moment... ![]() ![]() 1 assist & 1 goal... ![]() ![]() 2-0... ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:19pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
Nihilist: Anybody can be compared to anybody bros. I have said Henry is the better player but Drogba had a better record in finals. Are you talking of the Madrid side that finished 12 points behind Barca and 2 points ahead of Osasuna? It was a relatively weak Madrid side. The Inter victory which i remember cos of the way Henry disgraced Zanetti was a group stage match if i remember correctly. You can compare 2 greats of the game. Henry was the better player but Drogba performed better in big games. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 6:22pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
raumdeuter:Wait! Wait!!. Am I dreaming. Somebody don hack this bros moniker. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 6:23pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
afrodoc2:first part is good enough. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:23pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
Omo Dutch football is dead....it is sad ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:25pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
hensben: I wrote about the Henry myth on the chelsea thread like 2 weeks ago. It's only those who didn't watch him in his career and only saw his statue would think he's all that Henry simply attached to success. Even his only CL he attached to the great barca team. For France anytime Zidane is missing Henry never delivered |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 6:33pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
Mehn this Netherlands team na ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:37pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
For those who think it's is a capital punishment for a striker to drop deep or out of position. I always say when a centre forward stays put in the box, he might just as well be blocking the route to goal for team mates if he cannot score or get marked out. We saw this last season.
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 6:39pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
raumdeuter:Exactly! This is the point I'm trying to pass across. Saying Henry is 50000 times better than drogba(cooger comes to mind) is just been naive and blinded by sentiment. Both are good but if I'm to be a coach I'll choose drogba ahead of Henry due to his(drogba) ' never give up attitude', his doggedness in crucial games. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:42pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
afrodoc2: It's unimaginable how they have fallen so suddenly and so deeply. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 6:44pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
afrodoc2: The Inter Game was a 'must win' group match if Arsenal were to proceed to the knockout stages. That's a high profile big game against the 2nd best team in Italy at the time. Finishing 2nd, 12 points behind the Barca team that would win a double+ super cup that year does not make Madrid 'poor'. As we know Barcelona would do that to any other team in the world. Listing Arsenal's biggest rivals during his era,one would argue that games against these opponents can be justifiably classed as 'Big Games' Overall Arsenal record: 316 starts, 215 goals. vs Manchester United: Games 13, Goals 8 vs Tottenham Hotspur: Games 12, Goals 5 vs Chelsea: Games 17, Goals 8. vs Liverpool: Games 15, Goals 8. Big Game totals: Games 57, Goals 29. Infact one would argue that due to the nature of the quality of teams he faced in some of his finals (Brazil,Italy,Barca), he was facing the only teams in the world with quality to nullify Henry's goal threat So I'm not sure how Drogba is that much better than Henry in these 'Big Games' He got the red card against you guys in the UCL final in Moscow. In the UCL final against Bayern he gave away a penalty, which if Robben had converted, we would probably not have won. He missed a penalty in the 2006 final shootout against Egypt. then failed from the spot during the 2012 final against Zambia. Is it scoring in a couple of FA Cup finals that makes the Drogba the better 'Big Game' Player? I don't like the idea of demystifying a Chelsea Legend, but Henry >> Drogba in every aspect . |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 6:44pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
Nihilist:bring the greatest defenders from any generation into Inter's rear & Henry would have terrified them that night! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:50pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
raumdeuter: RooRuudRonSaha, you have an unlikely ally. ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coded01: 6:52pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
coded01: Arda Turan subbed in the 57th min, yet turkey added another goal...3-0 Netherlands... ![]() |
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