Jeromejnr:


It might be different in God's eyes after all the commands He gave. And also some might be worshiping those statue while others are not.

Is that an apology?

dmandy:


pride and arrogance

Bro!

I am still waiting for my quote.

I want to sleep now.

dmandy:


Is that an apology?

Nope. My quote first.

And they left one after the other.

3 against 1. Na wa o.

Dmandy

Whenever you find it, i will answer you later In the morning.

Ciao!

Jeromejnr:

Nope. My quote first.

Below are your words oga.

Jeromejnr:
Haha! I never see that one o. Adoration ko. So pentecostals will leave an atmosphere for miracles to go to where they down to a stature and almost keep silent all day long. I don go there before na. When I was dating a Catholic chick. Nothing dey go on for that place.

statue of mary

dmandy:


Below are your words oga.

No worship there.

Jeromejnr:


I gave a suggestion not a dogma. I said it could be a saint.

That was why I wanted you to provide proof for me that it spoke of the Messiah. But you still couldn't.

stop talking nonsence my friend. At one point you're giving a suggestion at another point you knew the the meaning of the passage. Who gives suggestive meaning to a passage they really know the true meaning? A two faced lair those.

johnw74:

statue of mary

tell that to the isrealites who also revered the ark of the covenant the same way. Were they also idol worshippers?

Ichiato:
stop talking nonsence my friend. At one point you're giving a suggestion at another point you knew the the meaning of the passage. Who gives suggestive meaning to a passage they really know the true meaning? A two faced lair those.

Where you not the one that wanted to educate me? O gave a suggestion for consideration because O wanted you to "enlighten" me. Which you couldn't.

So why didn't you show me where it said it was the Messiah as you guys said?

BTW, I never did tell you what I knew was the meaning. So don't jump to assumptions.

Ichiato:
tell that to the isrealites who also revered the ark of the covenant the same way. Were they also idol worshippers?

So was Mary on the ark?

The ark was commanded by God. Your Mary statue was commanded by who?

No basis for your claim. Non whatsoever.

dmandy:


You sir

Your God gives you commandments which he cannot obey. He must be a wicked god ooo run for ur lyf o

Our God is Holy and CANNOT sin.

God says we should not kill; does that mean God cannot kill and doesnt kill?

God says we should not swear; does that mean God cannot and doesnt swear?


God says we should not avenge ourselves: doesnt God carry out vengeance on our behalf?

In summary, God is not limited by His commandments.

Ichiato:
tell that to the isrealites who also revered the ark of the covenant the same way. Were they also idol worshippers?

Even then, hasnt the Lord done away with that?

Ichiato:

so In your own interpretation Jesus objected her saying? and then in the the name Luke 1: 41 - 42, Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit exclaimed the same words. Why would the Holy Spirit inspire some one to say something and then the Jesus would object some else for saying the same thing?
If you open your eyes well and read, your head well and understand, you will see that there is no word/words of objection or discouragement from Jesus. It is you that just added t

But why should anyone settle for less.
The One who owned Mary has said blessed is whoever hears His Word and keeps it than the owner of the breasts he sucked.

Why should anyone contend with that?

Why do we esteem the New Testament more that the Old Testament? Isnt it because the NT is better? It doesnt mean the OT is bad.

VLadipo:


Even then, hasnt the Lord done away with that?

Do away with what. He established a new convenant in Christ Jesus and Mary the ark of the new convenant

VLadipo:


But why should anyone settle for less.
The One who owned Mary has said blessed is whoever hears His Word and keeps it than the owner of the breasts he sucked.

Why should anyone contend with that?

Why do we esteem the New Testament more that the Old Testament? Isnt it because the NT is better? It doesnt mean the OT is bad.

No one is settling for less. We have both, we are in communion with Christ, Mary and all other saints. Nobody taking Christ out of the equation.

Ichiato:

No one is settling for less. We have both, we are in communion with Christ, Mary and all other saints. Nobody taking Christ out of the equation.

For chrissake, why the special emphasis on Mary?
That's our objection.
Mary was just a vessel through which Jesus was born.
It had to be someone anyway. Mary was just lucky.
Did we hear about Mary after the Lord's resurrection? No!

Ichiato:

Do away with what. He established a new convenant in Christ Jesus and Mary the ark of the new convenant

Mary is in heaven crying at that you are making an idol out of her.
Mary's ministry ended the day she delivered Jesus. After that, she became like every other mother.

VLadipo:


For chrissake, why the special emphasis on Mary?
That's our objection.
Mary was just a vessel through which Jesus was born.
It had to be someone anyway. Mary was just lucky.
Did we hear about Mary after the Lord's resurrection? No!

She was special enough for Angel Gabriel to regard her as highly favoured and for for Elizabeth to proclaim her the most blessed. Weren't these people laying emphasis on her? Or how is Catholics emphasis on Mary any different from Angel Gabriel's or Elizabeth's.

VLadipo:


Mary is in heaven crying at that you are making an idol out of her.
Mary's ministry ended the day she delivered Jesus. After that, she became like every other mother.

How do you know Mary is crying?
Her ministry ended after the birth of Jesus? But Mary herself prophesied that all ages was to proclaim her blessed?
Or is every other woman to be called blessed for all ages? The bible or apostolic tradition never reduced Mary role to that of every other mother, why are you?

Ichiato:

How do you know Mary is crying?
Her ministry ended after the birth of Jesus? But Mary herself prophesied that all ages was to proclaim her blessed?
Or is every other woman to be called blessed for all ages? The bible or apostolic tradition never reduced Mary role to that of every other mother, why are you?

Indeed Mary is blessed!
But that doesnt mean we should make a ritual out proclaiming Mary's blessedness. That's what the Catholics are doing.

After the death and resurrection of Jesus, we heard of Mary no longer. She disappeared into oblivion.

Ichiato:

How do you know Mary is crying?
Her ministry ended after the birth of Jesus? But Mary herself prophesied that all ages was to proclaim her blessed?
Or is every other woman to be called blessed for all ages? The bible or apostolic tradition never reduced Mary role to that of every other mother, why are you?

Those are one-off events!
It's not supposed to form part of our regular worship.
Mary and her blessedness are not mentioned in the Lord's prayer given to us by Jesus Himself.

In another thread, those who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses
do not worship Jesus Christ.

In this thread Roman Catholic worship His mother, even her statue.



more statues of mary

johnw74:
In another thread, those who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses
do not worship Jesus Christ.

In this thread Roman Catholic worship His mother, even her statue.



more statues of mary

Mary herself will condemn these people on the judgment day for not allowing her to rest in peace and making an idol out of her.

As for Jehovah's Witnesses, their day is coming.

For now, we need to liberate more unsuspecting catholics.

Jeromejnr:


But yet when many Catholic folks are sick, especilly the women, they run to the pentecostals for their miracles because they couldn't get one at their own place of worship.

The Irony.

Same goes for u protestants, ever heard of Catholic Charismatic Reunion, each time dey organise a program it's filled with protestants

VLadipo:


Even then, hasnt the Lord done away with that?

And what happened to Christ saying that I came not to abolish the law but to fulfill them.

VLadipo:


Indeed Mary is blessed!
But that doesnt mean we should make a ritual out proclaiming Mary's blessedness. That's what the Catholics are doing.

After the death and resurrection of Jesus, we heard of Mary no longer. She disappeared into oblivion.

Mary is blessed and her blessedness should be proclaimed for all ages. That my friend is the word of God as written in the bible, they are not my words.

You and your fellow Protestant are the ones who banished our Lords mother into oblivion. The apostles and their line of succession has always kept the tradition of proclaiming are blessedness for all ages.

VLadipo:


Mary is in heaven crying at that you are making an idol out of her.
Mary's ministry ended the day she delivered Jesus. After that, she became like every other mother.

And each time I protestants have an issue u run to ur pastors and when dey can't solve it dey run to another church and keep going about until their problems become their reason for going to church, so which is better being going through the mother of ur saviour or a mere human who is neither here nor there

VLadipo:


Those are one-off events!
It's not supposed to form part of our regular worship.
Mary and her blessedness are not mentioned in the Lord's prayer given to us by Jesus Himself.

Again, you are the one who has made it a one off event. All ages clearly means much more than your one off event and the fact that her blessedness was never mentioned in our Lord's prayer does not make it unacceptable just as the fact that Jesus himself was not mentioned in our Lord's prayer doesn't mean that prayers cannot and should not be directed to him.

Right now u say Mary is just a vessel.

Now let me help you understand what u saying, for example ur mother gave birth to u and at that time u lived in the village no pipe borne water, no electricity, no social amenities, den u developed and became something dat the world recognizes.
Now someone comes and says buy out ur village and build an industry and u reply my mother lives there and the person replies "ur mother is only a vessel for bringing about ur greatness so she doesn't matter".

Be sincere what will be ur reaction?

Aizenosa:


Same goes for u protestants, ever heard of Catholic Charismatic Reunion, each time dey organise a program it's filled with protestants

No 1: I am not a protestant.

No 2: Its a Catholics and Charismatic reunion two different movements why won't "protestants" be there. It's a reunion for crying out loud.

And BTW, they are not even protestants, they are known as Charismatics. You guys don't even know what protestant means.