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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by TonyeBarcanista(m): 5:55pm On Sep 23, 2015
thekingsmen:
Your analysis is spot on....

But i doubt Saraki will humbly step down from his position without a sustained fight.. He still has many lifelines and am sure he will use them all up before contemplating a step down from the senate top seat...

In the event he plays out all his cards and is still crippled by events, then i fully recommend this your stategy Mr TonyeBarcanista... PdP must not miss this golden opportunity to silence APC once and for all in the red chamber
The PDP just have to realise that we have both the knife and the yam. I understand that Saraki will put up fight but the question is "for how long?". I believe the PDP will not want to let go of this wonderful opportunity. The APC must get use d to being opposition in the red chamber.

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by coolplanet: 5:55pm On Sep 23, 2015
babaearly:


I've been following your posts but i must say you are a misguided youth
It will be wise if you channel your efforts into nation building rather than fighting along party lines
This same saraki you are rooting for has great skeletons that has been laid bare,
then why are you now turning it into a party battle affair? instead of eschewing corruption and stand by the law that has made thieving politicians being docked and stripped of all they stole when they got the chance to make things better for their people, here you are turning the law to a joke and into a party battle affair? what's wrong with you?
It's young people like you that will still say ibori was witch-hunted till this day.

How long will you caress the ego of pdp hoping to get a job from them? Why will you be this selfish and oblivious to the reality at hand?
These politicians are using you or you wish to use yourself for their corrupt plans but why will a young mind like you go to waste?

what message are you passing across to other youths, rather unemployed like you?

Have u also consider Tinubu?

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by NgeneUkwenu(f): 5:59pm On Sep 23, 2015
babaearly:


I'm not talking about this article per say but all you have been doing since moving from APC to PDP
Well i dont have a problem with that but you have been all about this like you have no life outside here
I have seen your facebook and the message i get is of an able bodied youth wasting away
I see you sitting down with your laptop and thats your dp which is quite sad.
Your mates are quite different when you see them on Linkedin but i doubt you even use that resource

Quit this road you are toeing because it will give you more misery. You might seem destined for great things
but you are channeling your emotions and will power from the wrong people to a crowd that does not even give a damn about you
Many of your "followers" are still struggling with their day to day life
and it beats me some still support you, when you support the politicians who have made a mess of their life

Think about it

The guy is jobless!

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by OPCNAIRALAND: 6:00pm On Sep 23, 2015
Barcanista,
There is a legal instrument called plea bargain, a negotiating contract used by prosecutors to win convictions by volume at a fraction of what the cost would be otherwise to the defendant. The victories are political gains for the Justice Dept.

There is hardly any sitting Senator in the Legislative Chamber who, under probe and scrutiny, will pass an accountability stress-test, particularly so if in the past they were Governors or Ministers. People like Senator Stella Oduah, Senator Dickson....even people like Senator Kashamu who were just top party stalwarts have one or two high scale controversies they would gladly trade off (plea bargain) and get a clean slate than clutch to party loyalty or to Saraki and risk spending time in prison.

Saraki's loudest supporter, Dino Melaye, has so far maintained silence and was not seen in his entourage to CCT Court. There is a reason for this.

PDP is not in a position to protect its Senators against charges of corruption. They are not in control of Judiciary or Law Enforcement. These Senators are vulnerable and you can expect them to vote for their freedom than for party ideology.

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by TonyeBarcanista(m): 6:01pm On Sep 23, 2015
APC should forget about the Senate Presidency. They shall be beaten in this game.


@NigerianVenom: David Mark don try, we need a new face in that office.
Firefire:
Where do we go from here?

Who among the lots is less corrupt ?

Or are we now considering "Less Corrupt" by grading corruption in Nigeria?

APC is pushing for Senator George Akume a former governor of Benue State who served two four years term with nothing to point to as his achievement?

or the wife of the 'King of Corruption' Oluremi Tinubu whose antecedent and ignoble character is well known. Can someone please point me what Remi Tinubu achieved with the last constituency allowance ?

The evil mechanism of Buhari and Tinubu to have a puppet as the Senate President must not stand.

It high time we allowed elected political leaders to rule without recourse to one selfish godfather in Nigeria.

We demand that the elected official be answerable to their constituency and not to the tin-god.

God bless Nigeria...

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by Mogidi: 6:01pm On Sep 23, 2015
NgeneUkwenu:


The guy is jobless!
Says a working Trans-gender.

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by Nobody: 6:01pm On Sep 23, 2015
coolplanet:


Have u also consider Tinubu?

Bro, you are trying to act like a brilliant person but you don't even come close
Please this is not an insult. I was not talking about any political party
because i have a disgust towards all of them for how they made nigeria become the mess it is today
but what breaks me down is the supposed "leaders of tomorrow" blowing the air out of the
backside of these same corrupt politicians milking us dry

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by raumdeuter: 6:01pm On Sep 23, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

Let's teach APC how to play politics.



May God Bless Nigeria
Power To The People

They say who wants to give one a cloth to wear you first check the one he is wearing

You want to teach APC politics yet you couldnt even win a Presidential election less than 6 months ago

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by saintopus(m): 6:02pm On Sep 23, 2015
thekingsmen:
Your analysis is spot on....

But i doubt Saraki will humbly step down from his position without a sustained fight.. He still has many lifelines and am sure he will use them all up before contemplating a step down from the senate top seat...

In the event he plays out all his cards and is still crippled by events, then i fully recommend this your stategy Mr TonyeBarcanista... PdP must not miss this golden opportunity to silence APC once and for all in the red chamber

I agree in totality of the analysis of Tonye Barcanista as well. But yours seem to be more realistic considering the way politics is played in Nigeria.

I know that Saraki will come out to fight dirty until all possible avenue to keep him in office had been exhausted.

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by Nobody: 6:02pm On Sep 23, 2015
NgeneUkwenu:


The guy is jobless!

It's quite sad

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by erunz(m): 6:05pm On Sep 23, 2015
Barcanista na four bottles of Goldberg I owe u. This analysis dey on point

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by TonyeBarcanista(m): 6:06pm On Sep 23, 2015
@OpcNairaland: You can't bully "everybody" with the judiciary. Trust me there are battles you can't win. As for Dino, he's up against Smart adeyemi of PDP. Either ways, PDP wins.


Welcome to 21st Century politics

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by Johnnyessence(m): 6:08pm On Sep 23, 2015
tonyebarcanista or what do u call urself u take corruption as normal thing in this country meanwhile u got no jobs due to the corruption act by ur leader in government. its so painful we are reading ur analysis as if u are part of them how will corruption will be checked in this country. it shows if u are in the government u will embezzle our treasury and take it as normal thing. that's while God won't allow u and ur generation to smell the seat at the center cos' ur heart is corrupt and we will not allow u to govern us no matter ur vocab here.

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by modath(f): 6:08pm On Sep 23, 2015
OPCNAIRALAND:

There is hardly any sitting Senator in the Legislative Chamber who, under probe and scrutiny, will pass an accountability stress-test, particularly so if in the past they were Governors or Ministers. People like Senator Stella Oduah, Senator Dickson....even people like Senator Kashamu who were just top party stalwarts have one or two high scale controversies they would gladly trade off (plea bargain) and get a clean slate than clutch to party loyalty or to Saraki and risk spending time in prison.

Saraki's loudest supporter, Dino Melaye, has so far maintained silence and was not seen in his entourage to CCT Court. There is a reason for this.

PDP is not in a position to protect its Senators against charges of corruption. They are not in control of Judiciary or Law Enforcement. These Senators are vulnerable and you can expect them to vote for their freedom than for party ideology.

#word #EoD...

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by Firefire(m): 6:08pm On Sep 23, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
APC should forget about the Senate Presidency. They shall be beaten in this game.


@NigerianVenom: David Mark don try, we need a new face in that office.

Whatever party, I am indifference in this matter.

We need a selfless leader and not a puppet...

A leader who is not corrupt and can defend the defenseless.

Btw: Who among the PDP senators are you thinking about ?

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by Johnnyessence(m): 6:09pm On Sep 23, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
The travails of Abubakar Bukola Saraki has opened a new chapter in the Senate and possible a vacuum in the office of the Senate President. We have to be honest with ourselves: Bukola Saraki has lost the moral ground to preside over the Senate Chambers. He has to step down voluntarily, and allow for someone without a moral burden to fill the vacuum. We are not unaware that the ruling APC is already scheming for replacement of Saraki. We also cannot feign ignorance to the fact that the APC is still bitter that senator Ike Ekweremadu of PDP emerged Deputy Senate President. They are plotting to oust him also and install their "choice". The PDP must wake up and take the battle to APC over full control of the Senate. PDP must seize full control of the red chambers.

The Reason APC and Buhari Want Saraki Down:
Make no mistake, Nigerians of good conscience want the senate president to answer for the 13 charges against him, and some want him to step down from his exalted office on moral ground. However, APC and the Presidency want Saraki to go down so as to have their stooge as Senate President. They are not interested in fighting corruption. If they were, they wouldn't have brought Saraki into the Senate in the first place. If Buhari was interested in fighting corruption he wouldn't have withdrawn the N2.8 billion corruption charge against ex-Bayelsa state governor Timpre Sylva, and even gifted him with the party guber ticket for the December election. If Buhari is serious with corruption fight, he would be prosecuting Pa Abubabakar Audu on his ongoing corruption case instead of campaigning for him to return to Lokoja Government House in order to continue where he stopped in the alleged looting spree that went under him as governor between 1999 and 2003. Buhari and APC want Saraki to go down simply because they wanted total control of the Senate and also to share Senate standing committees from the comfort of Buhari's presidential lodge and Tinubu's bedroom in bourdillon road.

The Upper-hand Is With PDP:
The Senate composes of 109 Senators. The PDP has 49, while the APC enjoys 60. Of the APC 60, about 12(including Saraki) are seen as rebels and has been ostracised by their party. The PDP must meet these pro-Saraki APC minority group to present a PDP candidate from NC as Saraki's successor(anybody but David Mark). The APC rebels should be rewarded with membership/chairmanship of choice standing committees. With 61 senators(49 PDP Se+ 12 APC) behind PDP candiate, the party stand as "Majority" to defeat whoever the gods of APC present as their candidate because APC will be left with 48 senators. A very wide majority. Considering that PDP need a minimum 55 senators for this battle, 61 will be more than required. This is enough to humble APC.

Saraki Must Make Up With PDP
As for Bukola Saraki, he is unfortunate to be served the same meal he served former president Goodluck Jonathan and PDP. However, he has to repent and respond to his alleged offence. But, he should be told that the only way he can redeem his betrayals towards PDP is by supporting a PDP candidate to succeed him. This will also defeat the evil mechanism of Buhari and other APC gods.


Finally, the PDP must not let go of this rare opportunity to legitimately control the Senate and have the Umbrella standing in the office of the Senate President. Buhari will have no choice but to work with PDP-led Senate.

Let's teach APC how to play politics.



May God Bless Nigeria
Power To The People
tonyebarcanista or what do u call urself u take corruption as normal thing in this country meanwhile u got no jobs due to the corruption act by ur leader in government. its so painful we are reading ur analysis as if u are part of them how will corruption will be checked in this country. it shows if u are in the government u will embezzle our treasury and take it as normal thing. that's while God won't allow u and ur generation to smell the seat at the center cos' ur heart is corrupt and we will not allow u to govern us no matter ur vocab here.

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by Nobody: 6:10pm On Sep 23, 2015
saintopus:


I agree in totality of the analysis of Tonye Barcanista as well. But yours seem to be more realistic considering the way politics is played in Nigeria.

I know that Saraki will come out to fight dirty until all possible avenue to keep him in office had been exhausted.
and dirty will he fight. Apc has through their recent actions shown that they are after saraki blood for going against party directives ; forget the talk about fighting corruption. I do not support saraki or his continous reign in the senate but i do not see him bowing out easily.

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by zurine(f): 6:10pm On Sep 23, 2015
I so much love your analysis, I really look forward to seeing you attain a good political height.
always educative reading your post

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by coolplanet: 6:13pm On Sep 23, 2015
babaearly:


I'm not talking about this article per say but all you have been doing since moving from APC to PDP
Well i dont have a problem with that but you have been all about this like you have no life outside here
I have seen your facebook and the message i get is of an able bodied youth wasting away
I see you sitting down with your laptop and thats your dp which is quite sad.
Your mates are quite different when you see them on Linkedin but i doubt you even use that resource

Quit this road you are toeing because it will give you more misery. You might seem destined for great things
but you are channeling your emotions and will power from the wrong people to a crowd that does not even give a damn about you
Many of your "followers" are still struggling with their day to day life
and it beats me some still support you, when you support the politicians who have made a mess of their life

Think about it

If u don't have anything reasonable to say then shut up.he only made his view but yours is to comment. No creativity at all.you self write make we contribute .olodo

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by OfoIgbo: 6:14pm On Sep 23, 2015
I thought of this same strategy a few days ago when I started taking interest in the Saraki saga.

It has one flaw, and a major flaw it is.

MONEY POLITICS. Remember that people like Tinubu have amassed corrupt riches over the decades, and I am not sure how principled, these batch of PDP and rebel APC senators are to resist any financial inducement from Tinubu's minions. This is the only flaw to your plan, that I can think of at the moment.

However all hope is not lost. I can think of two ways of countering potential Tinubu et al financial inducement of senators
Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by Mogidi: 6:15pm On Sep 23, 2015
OPCNAIRALAND:
Barcanista,
There is a legal instrument called plea bargain, a negotiating contract used by prosecutors to win convictions by volume at a fraction of what the cost would be otherwise to the defendant. The victories are political gains for the Justice Dept.

There is hardly any sitting Senator in the Legislative Chamber who, under probe and scrutiny, will pass an accountability stress-test, particularly so if in the past they were Governors or Ministers. People like Senator Stella Oduah, Senator Dickson....even people like Senator Kashamu who were just top party stalwarts have one or two high scale controversies they would gladly trade off (plea bargain) and get a clean slate than clutch to party loyalty or to Saraki and risk spending time in prison.

Saraki's loudest supporter, Dino Melaye, has so far maintained silence and was not seen in his entourage to CCT Court. There is a reason for this.

[size=15pt]PDP is not in a position to protect its Senators against charges of corruption. They are not in control of Judiciary or Law Enforcement. These Senators are vulnerable and you can expect them to vote for their freedom than for party ideology.[/size]

You almost sounded like you knew what you were talking about until the emboldened.

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by TheFreeOne: 6:16pm On Sep 23, 2015
OPCNAIRALAND:
Barcanista,
There is a legal instrument called plea bargain, a negotiating contract used by prosecutors to win convictions by volume at a fraction of what the cost would be otherwise to the defendant. The victories are political gains for the Justice Dept.

There is hardly any sitting Senator in the Legislative Chamber who, under probe and scrutiny, will pass an accountability stress-test, particularly so if in the past they were Governors or Ministers. People like Senator Stella Oduah, Senator Dickson....even people like Senator Kashamu who were just top party stalwarts have one or two high scale controversies they would gladly trade off (plea bargain) and get a clean slate than clutch to party loyalty or to Saraki and risk spending time in prison.

Saraki's loudest supporter, Dino Melaye, has so far maintained silence and was not seen in his entourage to CCT Court. There is a reason for this.

PDP is not in a position to protect its Senators against charges of corruption. They are not in control of Judiciary or Law Enforcement. These Senators are vulnerable and you can expect them to vote for their freedom than for party ideology.
Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by Mogidi: 6:20pm On Sep 23, 2015
OfoIgbo:
I thought of this same strategy a few days ago when I started taking interest in the Saraki saga.

It has one flaw, and a major flaw it is.

MONEY POLITICS. Remember that people like Tinubu have amassed corrupt riches over the decades, and I am not sure how principled, these batch of PDP and rebel APC senators are to resist any financial inducement from Tinubu's minions. This is the only flaw to your plan, that I can think of at the moment.

However all hope is not lost. I can think of two ways of countering potential Tinubu et al financial inducement of senators

Saraki is not a poor man and same goes for the senators backing him. The APC senators who went with Saraki to the tribunal sent a loud message to party chiefs. Saraki might even increase his support cause of his defiance.

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by TonyeBarcanista(m): 6:22pm On Sep 23, 2015
Mogidi:
Another in-depth analysis of current events by the one and only TonyeBarcanista.

My Oga, I loyal Sir! Leave those APC guys, they will come to terms with the real situation.

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by TonyeBarcanista(m): 6:26pm On Sep 23, 2015
PDP have Senators from the North Central. I don't want to suggest (would prefer they pick among themselves)
Firefire:


Whatever party, I am indifference in this matter.

We need a selfless leader and not a puppet...

A leader who is not corrupt and can defend the defenseless.

Btw: Who among the PDP senators are you thinking about ?

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by Nobody: 6:26pm On Sep 23, 2015
You wrote thinking there is permanent enemies in politics.

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by Nobody: 6:27pm On Sep 23, 2015
babaearly:


...These politicians are using you or you wish to use yourself for their corrupt plans but why will a young mind like you go to waste?

what message are you passing across to other youths, rather unemployed like you?
Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by Mogidi: 6:28pm On Sep 23, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

My Oga, I loyal Sir! Leave those APC guys, they will come to terms with the real situation.


Another brilliant article, still waiting for APC supporters to respond to the article rather than their usual (subtle) personal attacks.

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by Nobody: 6:29pm On Sep 23, 2015
modath:


I now realise why you couldn't make it work on twitter "YOU ARE NOT VERY SMART"..

Saraki didn't "win", he "manipulated his way to a seat he is only going to occupy on a very temporal basis...

I don't even know why I bother with your write ups that are not only full of structural & grammatical errors,They are self aggradizing.

Avoid his articles then. He doesn't need to appear smart to you. Smartness is relative brother.

If anything, you're the one pandering to your group of zombies.

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by TonyeBarcanista(m): 6:29pm On Sep 23, 2015
Johnnyessence:
tonyebarcanista or what do u call urself u take corruption as normal thing in this country meanwhile u got no jobs due to the corruption act by ur leader in government. its so painful we are reading ur analysis as if u are part of them how will corruption will be checked in this country. it shows if u are in the government u will embezzle our treasury and take it as normal thing. that's while God won't allow u and ur generation to smell the seat at the center cos' ur heart is corrupt and we will not allow u to govern us no matter ur vocab here.

I don't think you saw this part of the write-up
However, APC and the Presidency want Saraki to go down so as to have their stooge as Senate President. They are not interested in fighting corruption. If they were, they wouldn't have brought Saraki into the Senate in the first place. If Buhari was interested in fighting corruption he wouldn't have withdrawn the N2.8 billion corruption charge against ex-Bayelsa state governor Timpre Sylva, and even gifted him with the party guber ticket for the December election. If Buhari is serious with corruption fight, he would be prosecuting Pa Abubabakar Audu on his ongoing corruption case instead of campaigning for him to return to Lokoja Government House in order to continue where he stopped in the alleged looting spree that went under him as governor between 1999 and 2003. Buhari and APC want Saraki to go down simply because they wanted total control of the Senate and also to share Senate standing committees from the comfort of Buhari's presidential lodge and Tinubu's bedroom in bourdillon road.

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Re: The Battle For Senate Presidency: PDP Has The Upper-hand by coolplanet: 6:30pm On Sep 23, 2015
babaearly:


Bro, you are trying to act like a brilliant person but you don't even come close
Please this is not an insult. I was not talking about any political party
because i have a disgust towards all of them for how they made nigeria become the mess it is today
but what breaks me down is the supposed "leaders of tomorrow" blowing the air out of the
backside of these same corrupt politicians milking us dry

I believe u but what pains me is that some people feels they are above the law.someone like amechi,who fails to appear before tribunal and the president didn't order his arrest.honestly,is the president fighting corruption?

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