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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 1:36pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
Sergio Ramos is better than both Pique and Boateng. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 1:36pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
Dadehmola: Yea... the system! Some of your type even say the system is what makes Messi look good! Barcelona played a more direct football last season, and yet Piqué was one of the best defenders in Europe! Who has been the best defender in EPL for a while now? - Terry. I guess you remember how he fared when he played in a high line defense under AVB, and Piqué the 'mediocre' defender Excells in such a system! Apples & Oranges...Pique bosses El classico games, he was even MOTM for the last El classico Pique on the other hand has always thrived in a setup that made Yaya Toure fit in perfectly at CB in a UCL final. However, when the chips were down, the Spaniard showed why he couldn't make the grade at Man utd .. Does a Defensive midfielder need thousands of lessons to play as a defender? How old was Piqué when he was in Man U? I know things are bad now for you guys, but it has not always been like that! man u had a great squad then, you don't expect such a young Piqué to break into the team! Besides, it was only pique that couldn't break in, Pogba also! -stergen?? Good?? Haa! Hazard won PFA player of the year, but he is playing rubbish now, does that mean he has always been playing rubbish? 2 new keepers were bought at the same time, their duties were shared - Bravo for la liga and Ter Stegen for UCL! that period, the aging VDS & Cech were still the best goalies in The world. In 2010, Julio Cesar was arguably the best Goalie in the world (there's no need bringing up the glaring ojoro By FIFA in that particular year). After that save he made from Robben in the final, you still don't expect him to win it? 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:40pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
larride: ramos isn't better, he's just more aggressive. he's the one most likely to cop a red card amongst the trio. technically, he's the least talented amongst the 3......he often cops a red mist that makes him unpredictable & thus uncontrollable! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:41pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
Pique?? World Class?? I laugh in Swahili. And now they say Ter Stegen is world class?? The same Ter Stegen dat isn't even as good as Bravo?? Ok. Lets forget Neuer, De Gea, Courtois and Cech. U didn't see better keepers like Buffon, Handanovic, Hart, Oblak, Sirigu to mention, u are mentioning Ter Stegen. Ter Stegen should be mentioned alongside keepers like Weidenfeller, Fraser Forster, Lindegaard etc. In fact the only kind of keepers Ter Stegen is better than are keepers like Almunia, Carrol. Ter Stegen world class? Pls dont make us laugh.... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:41pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
larride:Corrected |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by McIrx: 1:54pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
AdeLaNa1:Actually we,including you are already laughing... ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 1:57pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
coogar:Which led ? Is it solely by his effort that spain achieved that feat or their brand of football ? We've seen great defence carry their team and we've seen spain we know what part of the team deserve praise. Spain is very short on quality CB Ramos former RB I won't be surprised if Javi Martinez convert to CB full time. pique is the overrated one here. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 2:03pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
AdeLaNa1: Nobody said Ter Stegen is world class! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:08pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
SIRcumalot: the whole team deserve the credits. don't talk like teams don't get scoring chances against spain. do you know what it means to go through knock out stages of the biggest international football competitions without conceding? abeg, leave matter.... pique is super-elite. one of the best defenders of his generation. we would all miss him when he retires. lay down his medals and he has more meaningful accolades than clubs like chelsea & arsenal. are you kidding me?
they aren't short at all..... they have pique, marchena, ramos. before then they had puyol, senna, raul albiol, etc how are they short on CBs? germany have more CB problems than spain. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheNonce: 2:25pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
![]() Na wa 4 some of you haters on here oh? Pique played side by side with puyol and won the treble, he then played side by side with mascherano and a rotating back line and still won the treble last season but he is still not world class? Or is it because he was a united player that dis bad belle is being allowed? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 2:30pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
coogar:Senna was a midfielder, and ramos started as a RB. Even if we wan nitpick Puyol used to be a rb too. How many scoring chances do they get when one team average like 60% possesion per game. Pique is lauded for his size,superior passing skill and technical ability and rightly so but when it comes to actual defence he is average at best. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:33pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
SIRcumalot: pique + puyol = euro 2012 pique + mascherano = UCL 2015 pique + puyol = world cup 2010 the only common factor is pique.....and yet he's average? heaven knows what he would be like if he's not average.... 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 2:37pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
homesteady: Bananas & Guava.. ![]() Messi makes a difference for barca - his influence on the team is the reason why jerks like pique don't have to defend all the time in the 1st place. Bringing messi into the mix clearly shows that you are outta points!! homesteady: You want us to take a list that contains Ter-stegen a serious one?? Park well oga. homesteady: In addition to the possession game, barca also play the high line while ensuring that the forwards press high up the pitch. If you want to Compare this Barca side with a Team that soaks up pressure, that's your problem. homesteady: You are better than this, trust me.. Yaya Toure who is known to be a defensive liability slotted in at CB effortlessly in a UCL final & was largely untroubled by the likes of tevez, Ronaldo & Rooney, yet you want us to believe it's a normal procedure. homesteady: Who said he should break into the 1st team? Pique was at the club when the likes of Anderson & Nani (his age mates) where already on the fringes of 1st team selection. It's also worthy of mention that pique was a man utd player for 4 years (2004-2004). homesteady: Hazard was taking games by the scruff of the neck for Chelsea - stop comparing his loss of form to someone who has possession soccer to thank for limited defensive duties, hence his supposed "quality"!! homesteady: Both goalies are equally useless... Which top club alternates goalies that way if it's not that one or both of them are problematic?? Stop trying to defend his inclusion in that list so as to justify pique's presence there - it's ridiculous to say the least!! homesteady: He won it because the Spanish side became "media darlings". Isn't this obvious?? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 2:42pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
I am enjoying this. Boatank better than sergio ramos ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheNonce: 2:43pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
![]() See my guys honours abeg...... Club honours: Manchester United Premier League: 2007–08 FA Community Shield: 2007 UEFA Champions League: 2007–08 Barcelona La Liga: 2008–09, 2009–10, 2010–11, 2012–13, 2014–15 Copa del Rey: 2008–09, 2011–12, 2014–15 Supercopa de España: 2009, 2010, 2011,2013 UEFA Champions League: 2008–09, 2010–11, 2014–15 UEFA Super Cup: 2009, 2011, 2015 FIFA Club World Cup: 2009, 2011 His International honours with spain: FIFA World Cup: 2010 UEFA European Championship:2008, 2012 UEFA U-19 European Championship:2006 His Individual honours: La Liga Breakthrough Player of the Year:2008-09 La Liga Best Defender: 2009-10 FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2010, 2011, 2012 UEFA Champions League Team of the Season:2014–15 UEFA Team of the Year: 2010, 2011, 2012 ESM Team of the Year: 2010-11,[60] 2013-14, 2014-15 UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament: 2012 La Liga Team of the Season: 2014–15! But still he is "local government class" to some people? Abeg make una park well! You must be learners! 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:47pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
airmark: stop mentioning my name in your idiotic musings...... TheNonce: he's local govt class but wait for it......john terry & jamie carragher would be considered world class by them. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:51pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
I don't want to believe coogar actually said that. He was probably joking, we all crack jokes and people misconstrue our jokes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheNonce: 2:54pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
![]() he's local govt class but wait for it......john terry & jamie carragher would be considered world class by them. [/quote] Don't mind the blue ape _shits! Although fear no go allow them make that kind analogy! Na John"the adulterator" terry sef go personally sue shekpites for slander if them yarn that kind opata! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:55pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: boateng is currently the best CB in the world. pique follows closely and ramos is rated 3rd. you have others that range from flash in a pan to one season wonders to the has beens and the overrated featherweighs! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 2:56pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
coogar:Why not include the bayern job, And the WC 2015 outing. the most important of part a defenders game is still "defence" and when your team is under siege you can turn to pique and see how that will work for you. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:02pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
coogar: To start with, are we judging based on form or overall? i.e what they can do on a good day. Going by the emboldened, does it mean if chamakh is scoring 5 goals per match and messi hasn't scored in the past 10 games, we'll say chamakh is better since its current? Not to say boateng hasn't been consistent but him being the best CB? Hell NO! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheNonce: 3:02pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
![]() Kai? No type of wonders wey man no go see for this man united thread sha! Some of una no go even fit work with brilla fm branch for zamfara state as local pundits if dey decided to open 1! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 3:03pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
coogar:Is it the old john terry we have now you're referring to Or the JT of old ? Now who is biased. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 3:14pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
Dadehmola: And don't you know that it's players like Messi who make his defending job harder by not tracking back? Is attacking the only aspect of a game? No - that means other players play important functions. want us to take a list that contains Ter-stegen a serious one?? Park well oga.Ermmm.... how many times do I have to say this - He had a good season and even won best save of the tournament! Was it not his UCL form that made people and the press to say he was Neuer's heir? In addition to the possession game, barca also play the high line while ensuring that the forwards press high up the pitch. If you want to Compare this Barca side with a Team that soaks up pressure, that's your problem. O really? Why then does your team not play with a high line defense? Who doesn't know that is the most difficult style of defending where you are highly exposed to counter-attacks? Why was the whole world blaming Pep for using a highline against barcelona last UCL season? You are better than this, trust me.. He became a defensive liability in Man city. Hazard was taking games by the scruff of the neck for Chelsea - stop comparing his loss of form to someone who has always possession soccer to thank for limited defensive duties, hence his supposed "quality"!! Read my post well, I was comparing Hazard situation to Ter Stegen! goalies are equally useless... Lmaoooooooooooo! Bravo won copa America with Chile, it shows you don't know what you are talking about ![]() ![]() You would surely make a bad coach! You buy 2 new good keepers, is sharing responsibilities between them the best thing to do? won it because the Spanish side became media darlings. Isn't this obvious?? there is always ab excuse! SMH ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by barackohandso(m): 3:16pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
Pique is a world class defender anytime anyday. Critics can't continue to hide under Barca and spain's brand of play to discredit what he has achieved in football. He's won 3 UCL for crying out loud and he did it being an integral member not a bit-part player. Once can be termed luck but thrice? Nah it's special 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:18pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
SIRcumalot: there has never been a time john terry was better than pique. there has never been a time terry is better than ramos or even boateng. which yeye terry? barackohandso: the same fools consider terry, kompany and zouma world class defenders. ![]() ![]() Aareonakakanfo: mention one defender better than boateng as we speak. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:31pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by barackohandso(m): 3:33pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
coogar: Terry? The current terry that's being räpëd every week. He's past it Kompany's just a local champion that's all, with the number of talents he has alongside him in both country and club he should be leading them to international titles Zouma is still upcoming |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:36pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by barackohandso(m): 3:37pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
I think it's just beef critics have for pique. At 27 an insane amount of trophies (and still counting) and a girlfriend who's equally successful and a global brand. E no easy mehn ! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 3:44pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
coogar:Anybody that watched chelsea in jose first stint with the club can link chelsea dominance to the brilliance of JT,makelele and Carvalho. Can you say the same for barcelona with pique and Co Is pique the main reason why teams don't score barcelona ? I am not beyond reason, I have toned down my rooney love when faced with reality and I admitted that silva was the better player. Pique is overrated. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheNonce: 3:46pm On Oct 10, 2015 |
![]() Chelshit fans really have nothing to hold on to this season! They are succesfully putting up the worst championship defence in history? They are battling relegation? And now they are relying on time machine based arguments or punditry filled with blind hate to make themselves feel something other than disgust over there aged and sad looking team! Airmong! Take heart ehn? Lmfao!!! |
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