Phema:
Uchetobi; I'm totally with you on this one. This policy nullifies the essence of this thread. I think the admin should find a way around these paid ads without shutting out vital in-thread info.

In-thread ads should be discouraged as it isn't fair on the paid ones, but not an innocent vital info by someone just trying to help. I'm sure JW can tell the difference and can sniff out the in-thread ads from afar and either hide or ban them.

I disagree with the story of hospitals shutting out Naija patients cos their names were mentioned here. Affordable doctors and hospitals get referrals from everywhere and not just Nairaland. As for agents getting info from here; that also doesn't hold any water as they can easily PM any poster as 'fellow preggers', get any info they want and 'sell' it. This policy will even make it easier for them as the info is not easily circulated anymore and they get to keep it secret and make a fortune.

I honestly miss the part 1 of this thread. Every post had a meaning. People researched about hospitals and shared the info freely for others to benefit. Now, all we have is "Dr A, Dr F, Dr Z". Nothing new as any fresh info is hidden. What happens when these well known Drs get tired of Naija patients? Where will the upcoming mamas go? Oh, the hospital/s with paid ads?

I rest my case on this matter.

Phema:


Me too ooo.

Cos of one hospital in one small city close to border. . . Hian.

nefertitiram:
Nne wait o, before you rest your case, I can bet it was because of NL that MIHS jacked up their prices.
It was because of NL that Dr. Zimmerman stopped taking 9ja patients

It was because of NL that Mobap flew frm $900 doc fees to no intl patients.

I'm with Justwise on this o! Because MIHS pained me bad, and Mobap sef bite me for corner.

The worst thing is that this thread is so open that the people ruining this thing are not actively participating. They come, collect info and run with it. Meanwhile some of us battle day and night, on the phone 24/7 to get info so that our friends here can benefit, only for lurkers to bombard the hospital with a million calls so tey they did meeting and stopped taking intl patients.
A mama here testified on how she was grilled about how she found out about Dr. F

If this trend continues, who knows, there will be no more affordable options. It is simple economics, law of demand and supply.

Chicagomum:
So what will be the essence of this thread if we are unable to share costs, hospital and doctor reviews?

shawlar:


Wait oh.... You used an American billing address with a naija-bank card and it worked...?? Just like @bbaby84 said..?? and d addy is not the one u used to open d acct/card initially..??
wow! If you use a wrong billing addy with an American bank card, d transaction wont be authorised... - even wrong phone number sef..
chai - These our naija banks sha

nefertitiram:


You can share via PM.

Thread 1 and 2 are baskets of information regarding hospitals. Very insightful. Anyone that needs info should check the archives.
These agents are disgustingly distasteful and you will feel that way if you were a victim of the mobap and the MIHS effect.

How monkey go de work, baboon de chop?
Is it fair?

By the way, how are you doing? Are you in chicago yet?

firsttymum:
Hmmmmm

The advertiser's won't even patronize u anymore if this thread dies. Because that's where it's headed

duchessgoddess:
Congrats to all the new mamas and papas, successful POE and VO stories!
Let me share my story (not what I expected but a good one all the same) cos of great people on this thread; ejisky, nwunyebuka and MOST t. Lol!
Long story short, I had my LO on the 14th thru an unscheduled CS (on my antenatal day oh) cos of a BP of 210/110 that "skyrocketed" from 150/80 in less than a day!
I just bless God for life and good health!
I wish all expectant mums (and dads) successfull POEs and safe delivery!
Sorry for the long post.
Thanks once again @ olokings, firsttymum, lollyberry, ejisky and everyone.

nefertitiram:



By the way, how are you doing? Are you in chicago yet?

LI:

Congrats Duchess. God bless you and all yours

justwise:


You are dead wrong.

olokings:
I totally agree with ur view.


@justwise I really crave ur indulgence to review this new policy perspective.
I perceive as being counter productive on the long run.
If you look at the cumulative effective of the inability to post hospital and doctor's costs n packages this thread will become stale very fast.

You will have fewer visitors being that the veterans ll have no need to revisit, newbies (most of who refuse to read d thread and want veterans whom read n gain new info from posts to school them) , those who visit just look at the advert and waka pass....

Furthermore, the very few who pay to advertise definitely CANNOT handlethe population of intensified pilgrims ergo the likelihood of upward review of their prices in due time.

Furthernow with a reduction in visitors the advert customers will discontinue their patronage given d thread ll become expendable to them.

Trust me when members research and bring new info shared here, the name nairalandteens to go far and wide across the states buh if the put such a caveat on such then u are restriction the brand to just the houston axis, I don't think this is ur plan view floor it ryt?.

If I should give u an idea, rather than concentrating on coy advert only, why don't u look at an annual fee of say #2,000.00.... multiply that by the number by the number of annual visitors on this thread. .. trust that given the value of information resident here 2k will b nothing compared.

In addition to that even the so called trolls will have to pay to come and glean info from here. ...

The coy advertising here kip getting their share of customers. ..while those who wishes to look elsewhere kip enriching NL community.

Don't u think this is a win win situation given the likely outcome of ur new policy regime?

Cos truly chief ur focus is to build membersand visitors because without us these coy won't even look ur way for advert.

My candid perspective though. ..d decision remains urs

nefertitiram:
Nne wait o, before you rest your case, I can bet it was because of NL that MIHS jacked up their prices.
It was because of NL that Dr. Zimmerman stopped taking 9ja patients

It was because of NL that Mobap flew frm $900 doc fees to no intl patients.

I'm with Justwise on this o! Because MIHS pained me bad, and Mobap sef bite me for corner.

The worst thing is that this thread is so open that the people ruining this thing are not actively participating. They come, collect info and run with it. Meanwhile some of us battle day and night, on the phone 24/7 to get info so that our friends here can benefit, only for lurkers to bombard the hospital with a million calls so tey they did meeting and stopped taking intl patients.
A mama here testified on how she was grilled about how she found out about Dr. F

If this trend continues, who knows, there will be no more affordable options. It is simple economics, law of demand and supply.

firsttymum:
I sincerely hope I am.

What's the solution though... I'm out of ideas... How do we get new info from Dr's and hospitals and not share

LadyGuinivere:
Erm! After reading both sides, all I can sayis nawa o!
E go hard now to get new hospitals. As aa friend say she see 5,300 in chicago I no even bother to ask her d name for posting purposes.
The people Wen de pay for ad, why dem de fear na?! If them cheap we go come!

olokings:
Madam how market.

If I may ask, how successful are you with pm response. ..is it the failure delivery u get in 9 out of 10 pm requests abi the ghost mode people that come to do direct suckling that u encourage? ....

Check am again na. ...

As far as I know, in any social media set up or venture, the request of the users are paramount and not the Corp advertisers ooh. ... those Corp people come here because of US. ...if we waka them too go waka

Phema:


Ok. Let's talk about this.

Does NL increase the influx of patients to some hospitals? Yes! Is it the sole reason these hospitals get overwhelmed and stop taking international patients? No!

I personally met atleast 3 Naija mamas in MIHS who didn't know anything about NL. Naija mamas in MIHS cannot even be compared to the number of Mexicans and Philipinos in same place. Before vivianobas revealed MIHS, it was well known to other nationals and they even had to jack up their fees from $1,500 to $2,888. Yea, you heard right, 1k5! If vivianobas did not share info about MIHS here, would we had known and you won't be here talking about missing that package. If she had said "I've info about a cheap hospital in Phoenix, PM for details". We (including agents gan) would have PMed her, gotten info and still bombarded the place.

Then again, if NL was the sole reason for these hospitals to stop taking international patients, Doctoresparati will be the first to stop. That was the very first well known hospital on this thread and the number of Naija mamas that have gone there is nothing close to the ones that have gone to other 'closed' hospitals. And they are even still here advertising.

And heck, even if NL increases these hospitals' patient influx somuch that they stop taking, no biggie. Soldier go, soldier come. Mamas here will make research and new hospitals will be found and shared here.

Ok. Let's even say we stop mentioning names, what will we achieve in the long run? These well known Doctors that people get info through PM will still be bombarded. And when they stop taking patients, where does that leave us? Remember there are no new Dr's contacts shared here anymore. We will now have to resort to agents to pay huge amount for an info we could have joined hands together to get. Then why do we have this thread? It's supposed to be about "Cost and procedure for birthing in the States".

The risk of not sharing info here openly greatly outweighs that of sharing. Don't worry, we all will begin to see that in no distant time. And if you think the Mods/admin are doing this for our benefit, think again. They just want to make money through ads. Even JW knows this (as he has always been an anti-agent/PM mod), but it does seem like his hands are tied and I understand his plight stance.

neks31:



Toh!! And I see only one hospital doing advert here!!! Pls let others come and be doing advert her for control mbok.

nefertitiram:
Doctoresparati is an agent.
They are cashing out big time.
The other agents that are posing to be preggies, they should go and buy advert like doctoresparati.
When MIHS was in their haydays, she did advert too.
I know many mamas here that have bypassed them and gotten better deals in the same hospital near Mexican border! Hehehehe

Phema:


Of course. Doctoresparati are agents but they use Del Sol Medical Centre. One would think that hospital would have been long overwhelmed so much as to stop taking new patients, but they aren't.

If only the agents will agree to spend money on a piece of land here. But them no go gree. . .when they can easily PM.

Hope LO is doing great?

LadyGuinivere:


Even if they come will people use them? Shebi after reading about a certain Doc that never shows till u don born, baptise and bethroth the baby finish sef , if e come here advertise u go use am?
NL should consider its citizens ist...WE THE PEOPLE OF NIGERIA.
We came here to get honest to GOd info. Free of BS and agents. When we get to the US, we are classed after their people. Now their Hospitals are inadvertently pouring san' san' in our garri and we have failed to see this. Mae I kuku rest my case. Cos judgement has already been entered and as we can see, there is no appeal in the matter

nefertitiram:
Nne wait o, before you rest your case, I can bet it was because of NL that MIHS jacked up their prices.
It was because of NL that Dr. Zimmerman stopped taking 9ja patients

It was because of NL that Mobap flew frm $900 doc fees to no intl patients.

I'm with Justwise on this o! Because MIHS pained me bad, and Mobap sef bite me for corner.

The worst thing is that this thread is so open that the people ruining this thing are not actively participating. They come, collect info and run with it. Meanwhile some of us battle day and night, on the phone 24/7 to get info so that our friends here can benefit, only for lurkers to bombard the hospital with a million calls so tey they did meeting and stopped taking intl patients.
A mama here testified on how she was grilled about how she found out about Dr. F

If this trend continues, who knows, there will be no more affordable options. It is simple economics, law of demand and supply.

nefertitiram:

at bolded.
She's doing awesome. We de ur back for missionary journey season 2

Phema:


You get mind?

You fit wait reach 2018?

Adiahabasi:
Women's care consultants had a high influx of calls from Nigeria..true...but that was just one practice in the hospital....MOBAP is massive wt close to a hundred dr's practices...so calls from Nigeria, to the doctor's office that Kizluv and I used couldn't hv made the whole hospital place a ban on Int'l patients...I asked and was told that the very high influx of Asian patients made the hospital revert their clientele policies.....so it wasn't Nairaland,all the Naija calls did was make d dr's office make ultrasound scans and some tests compulsory to jack up their price.

Phema:


Ok. Let's talk about this.

Does NL increase the influx of patients to some hospitals? Yes! Is it the sole reason these hospitals get overwhelmed and stop taking international patients? No!

I personally met atleast 3 Naija mamas in MIHS who didn't know anything about NL. Naija mamas in MIHS cannot even be compared to the number of Mexicans and Philipinos in same place. Before vivianobas revealed MIHS, it was well known to other nationals and they even had to jack up their fees from $1,500 to $2,888. Yea, you heard right, 1k5! If vivianobas did not share info about MIHS here, we would not had known and you won't be here talking about missing that package. If she had said "I've info about a cheap hospital in Phoenix, PM for details". We (including agents gan) would have PMed her, gotten info and still bombarded the place.

Then again, if NL was the sole reason for these hospitals to stop taking international patients, Doctoresparati will be the first to stop. That was the very first well known hospital on this thread and the number of Naija mamas that have gone there

I agree with Phema on this, It has to be a WIN WIN situation for everyone. Justwise please strike a balance, some of us are still looking forward to having our Americana.