dalaman:


The most annoying part of the whole madness is that you can be killed for openly stating your disbelief in such stories in some parts of the world. If you openly say that you do not believe that Mohammed rode on the back of a horse or that he divided the moon into two and try to falsify the story in places like Saudi Arabia, Yemen, or even in some states in Northern Nigeria there are people that will happily kill you.

mahdino:


The word "Muhammad" in the Bible (in Original Hebrew)

The name "Muhammad" is written in the Bible in the original Hebrew language.

In the 5th chapter of the Shir haShirim ( שיר השירים ), which is one of the five megilot or Sacred Scrolls that are part of the Hebrew Bible or for short the "Song of Solomon" (also called "Song of Songs". That chapter is giving a prophecy about an individual to come, a mystery man.

Song of Songs 5:15 compares this prophetic mystery man to the land of "Lebanon" which is the land of the Arabs. This implies that the mystery man would be an Arab.

Verse 15 of the NIV Bible says: “His appearance is like Lebanon", so this is an Arabic gentleman (or Arab looking).

Verse 11 says: "his head is as the most fine gold, his locks are
wavy, and black as a raven". Verse 10 describes this man as being "radiant and ruddy" which means he was slightly light-skinned with a rosy color. This physical description matches exactly with the authentic Islamic sources.
Sahih Al Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 747, says Muhammad was slightly light skinned, with a rosy color (and has the same hair as is mentioned in verse 11)

Song of Songs 5:10 says: "My beloved is white and ruddy, pre-eminent above ten thousand." This is a prophecy of Prophet Muhammad as he conquered Mecca. It is a well known historically documented fact that in the year 630 CE Muhammad entered Mecca as the leader of an army of "ten thousand men".

In reading the English translation of Song of Songs 5:16 it finishes the description by saying: "He is altogether lovely" but what most people don't know is that the name of that man was given in the original megilot. Here is the name written in ancient Hebrew as it appears in verse sixteen: מחמד . It is read as : "Mahammad".

Hebrew: חִכּוֹ, מַמְתַקִּים, וְכֻלּוֹ, מַחֲמַדִּים; זֶה דוֹדִי וְזֶה רֵעִי, בְּנוֹת יְרוּשָׁלִָם.

English: His mouth is most sweet; yea, he is ALTOGETHER LOVELY. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.

There is a plural used together with this Hebrew word, with
the plural it’s pronounced “Mahamadd-im”. The ending letters 'im' is a plural of respect, majesty and grandeur for God’s prophet, just as in the word Eloh-im.

According to Ben Yehuda's Hebrew-English Dictionary, it is correctly pronounced as "Mahammad".

If you don't believe me, go to these translator links, paste the name מחמד and then translate it into English. You will see that מחמד is translated as "Muhammad".


http://www.freetranslation.com/


http://worldlingo.com/en/products_servi … lator.html

You can also see and listen to the Song of Songs in its original form, in Hebrew where Muhammad is mentioned by name in the below link (please notice the "im" in Hebrew is a plural of respect):


http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt3005.htm


Watch the whole video here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3sZfPwv1g

dalaman:


. Can you imagine a christian trying to mock a muslim for believing that Mohammed rode on a flying horse when their own bible has talking donkeys, flying chariots, locust with faces of men adorned with iron breastplates and other fictitious nonsense. delusion at its finest.

johnydon22:
Both the Quran and the bible are derived from the same jewish background and theme.. Both hoards many jewish myths and legends and both are equally full of bullshiiiit..

Its called the desert triology..

Part1 is the jewish scriptures Tenarks ...part 2 is the bible and 3 is the Quran. . . . All are same thing and their bullshiits are directly proportional to each other...

yazach:


Madam the man knock you down this time. He really got you

You could never expect that response

Your biggest problem is when you are caught pant down, you dodge it by changing the topic

Say something else please rilwayn has finish you big time

parisbookaddict:

Hilarious. I only called u ignorant because u are. It Isn't ad hominem. STop looking for an excuse.
U on the other hand started with a tu touque fallacies to the questions I asked.



Thanks, it means a lot coming from an Islamist such as urself.
I have never claimed to be a bible scholar. I have mentioned it to u and ur like before. Show me where I have claimed it and I will deactivate my account immediately. I learn every day unlike u muslims who think the quran is the only book what learning from.

Speaking of gullible, I guess u Mr muslim are not gullible since u believe a paedophile lair bigot misogynist flying donkey riding rapist is a prophet..



I think an atheist here posted the verse already. I just read it, it was a bit funny really. Especially since it is clearly not allegorical. Dude, this talking donkey has really shaken my faith about the wonderful, beautiful teachings of Our lord Jesus Christ..not.





I do. Its clear that its allegorical for how disobedience and sin entered the world. Islam has its own creation myth borrowed from apocryphal books.




Like I said earlier it isn't allegorical. I will study it more and create a topic addressing it.




More insults. From the devout muslim.
Anyway I do, and u Mr muslim. Have u read the hatefully biogot misogynist unholy paedophile authored quran today

More insults. From the devout muslim.
Anyway I do, and u Mr muslim. Have u read the hatefully biogot misogynist unholy paedophile authored quran today

parisbookaddict:


So u believe mohammed mounted a flying donkey.... the muslim brain is one sad thing..remember he was the only withness.. perhaps he was high on hashish

plappville:


Forget him. Just let him address the OP. You have proved you are not like them who lie in all cost to defend a copy and rewrite prophet.

lexiconkabir:
O boy! I didnt know a party was going on here, anyway for those claiming that he had no witness(e.g parisbookaddict)…..Ibn Ishaq related, quoting Umm Hani as his source, that she said, “It was from nowhere but my home that the Messenger of God (SAAS) made his night journey. He slept that night after having made the final evening prayer. When it was just before dawn he woke up and when it was morning we prayed together and he said, ‘O Umm Hani, last evening I prayed with you in this valley, then I went to Jerusalem and prayed there. And now here I am having said the morning prayer with you, as you see.’ “He then arose to leave, but I took hold of the hem of his cloak and said, ‘O Messenger of God, do not make that statement to the people; they will surely disbelieve you and do you harm.’ “But he replied, ‘By God, I will certainly tell it to them!’ And he did tell them and they did disbelieve.” TBC

parisbookaddict:


1. Ĺet me remind u that u are quoting Ibn ishaq which u muslims claim is not authentic. .lol.. when i quote the crazy things mohammed did as Narrated by ibn ishaq u muslims will scream that its not even a sahih hadith to be taken seriously. .now u are quoting it .

2. Where does the alleged withness claim mohammed was flying with a donkeyWhat is the reason or lesson for the flying donkey ?? How did it help anybody?? The narrator from ur post is only saying mohammed visited him and travelled from her house...?? Where does she say she saw him mount a donkey and fly..

Rilwayne001:


So you believe donkey really talked as according to the bible?
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3007809_balaamandtalkingdonkey_jpegc9e7f5a772547edfbaf9bc643d5f1d90

So you believe as according to Judges 9:8 trees went out to
anoint a king?

So you believe Elijah was flown to heaven by a chariot of fire and horses of fire ?
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3007822_elijafirychariot_jpeg9db9f20384914022d3d236b3b83c9a6a

In John’s Revelation dream, which is conveyed to be an imminent and realistic future event, he sees crown-wearing locusts with faces of men, hair of women, teeth of lions,tails of scorpions, and wings sounding like chariots. These locusts also adorn iron breastplates in preparation for battle (9:7-10). Draw your own conclusions.

I assume you've not been reading your bible lately.

Perhaps those anonymous authors of the bible were high on pawpaw leaf..

mubarakopeyemi:

Ridwan bad man

You are my mentor. Na your step I dey follow

Rilwayne001:



You are my mentor. Na your step I dey follow

lexiconkabir:
“On hearing this, people hurried to the pass. The first camel, which was as he described to them, was insufficient proof for them, so they asked about the vessel and the camel, and those in the caravan did tell them just as the Prophet (SAAS) had recounted.”.

johnydon22:
[b]
Many of us here are very familiar with flying animals in antiquity or animals depicted to possess wings like birds.

The most popular of these stories is the story of Pegasus the flying Horse of Perseus son of the God Zeus in classical Greek antiquity.

we have all seen the movie depictions and many of us here won't deny having fantasized about riding such animal that has nothing to show that is not anymore than mere mythological fictional work of antiquity.



We also have the winged bulls of Babylonian mythology and then remarkably one so near is the tale of Muhammed (Founder of Islam) riding similar animal.

I am intrigued at this claim of Muhammed riding something similar to a flying horse named Buraq.


Then a white animal which was smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was brought to me. ... The animal's step (was so wide that it) reached the farthest point within the reach of the animal's sight.

—  Muhammad al-Bukhari , Sahih al-Bukhari



Then he [Gabriel] brought the Buraq, handsome-faced and bridled, a tall, white beast, bigger than the donkey but smaller than the mule. He could place his hooves at the farthest boundary of his gaze. He had long ears. Whenever he faced a mountain his hind legs would extend, and whenever he went downhill his front legs
would extend. He had two wings on his thighs which lent strength to his legs.

He bucked when Muhammad came to mount him. The angel Jibril (Gabriel ) put his hand on his mane and said: "Are you not ashamed, O Buraq? By Allah , no-one has ridden you in all creation more dear to Allah than he is." Hearing this he was so ashamed that he sweated until he became soaked, and he stood still so that the Prophet mounted him


According to these narratives God through Gabriel gave Muhammed one of his flying horse-like animals to ride to Jerusalem. . And muhammed was the ever first to ride such.

I find it intriguing that the classical story of Perseus which predates muhammed story by thousands of years. God (zeus) also gave Perseus a flying horse named Pegasus and Perseus became the only person to have ridden such.

These two stories quite similar in their claim of flying horse-like animals being ridden, what fascinates me is that people actually believe Muhammed really rode such an animal even though such has never been substantiated to be anymore than fictious mythical construct.

It reveals the dishonesty in Faith... Someone could believe such unsubstantiated outrageous assertion by faith against all reason.

A Muslim would laugh at anyone who asserts Perseus rode a flying horse but Muhammed rode one? then it is true .. "God is great" …lol.. ..

Imagine the absurdity in such belief. . . If one honestly believe someone rode a flying horse then why cant that person believe Perseus did or the dishonesty in belief stipulates one should cherry pick which myth to believe?

That's why i always say: "If something needs to be believed against reason by faith then there is no reason to believe it at all..."

Our muslim brothers, Do you honestly believe Muhammed rode a flying horse, if yes can you provide us independent empirical substantiation to back up your claim...??[/b]

lexiconkabir:
O boy! I didnt know a party was going on here, anyway for those claiming that he had no witness(e.g parisbookaddict)…..Ibn Ishaq related, quoting Umm Hani as his source, that she said, “It was from nowhere but my home that the Messenger of God (SAAS) made his night journey. He slept that night after having made the final evening prayer. When it was just before dawn he woke up and when it was morning we prayed together and he said, ‘O Umm Hani, last evening I prayed with you in this valley, then I went to Jerusalem and prayed there. And now here I am having said the morning prayer with you, as you see.’ “He then arose to leave, but I took hold of the hem of his cloak and said, ‘O Messenger of God, do not make that statement to the people; they will surely disbelieve you and do you harm.’ “But he replied, ‘By God, I will certainly tell it to them!’ And he did tell them and they did disbelieve.” TBC

parisbookaddict:


Once again you prove that mohammed is a fraud. .see all the effort he is making to convince people u flew a flying donkey..he was trying to sell a lie and it wasn't working
..

basilico:
Lexicon
This is the true historical concept . [s]Muhammad had at one time asked to marry Umm Hani before marrying Khadija.
That night he was supposed to sleep at the mosque compound. He sneaked and went to sleep at Umm Hani's house.
In the morning the companions were worried about his wherebouts and they went looking for him. they found him there .. obviously Muhammad
was embarrased.
So concocted the mythical horse story.[/s]

basilico:
Lexicon
This is the true historical concept . Muhammad had at one time asked to marry Umm Hani before marrying Khadija.
That night he was supposed to sleep at the mosque compound. He sneaked and went to sleep at Umm Hani's house.
In the morning the companions were worried about his wherebouts and they went looking for him. they found him there .. obviously Muhammad
was embarrased.
So concocted the mythical horse story .

lexiconkabir:
And they ALL believed him due to the overwhelming proof he gave, could you for once act like you gat sense? even if we all know that you dont.

Annunaki:


[s]That was no proof, an advanced party or scout could have told Mohamed about the caravan. After all he was a caravan robber so it would have been in his interest to monitor the movements of caravans in advance.[/s]

Empiree:
@johnydon22, what you think of the incident is pretty much irrelevant. Religion, especially Islam is not your area of expertise. If you want to criticize "Isra and miraj" because your brain can not possibly comprehend God's wisdom, and wisdom behind this magnificent incident,

The question was very easy, and this stuporous salads just got thrown into it without even answering the question..

It says: Do you honestly believe Muhammed rode a flying horse-like animal named Buraq if yes can you provide an empirical substantiation for such claims?

You could simply provide us actual proof of such winged animal ever existing. . . thank you for your proof in advanced... Please don't bring in any more unrelated talks..

I have a feeling you are trying to steer the topic off the question...

then, maybe you should also question how it's possible for men in modern time buying land in space. Yes, billionaires purchase land in space. How does that sound to you?. How do they get there, what do they stand on, etc.
Anyways, you should focus and channel you energy on what Atheists do best. Thats your area man. Atheists don't know right from wrong.

And now he goes into extra-terrestrial real estate and call it buying land on space..lmao.. and you are even sounding excited showing you just found the information recently. . .

When such feat is far fetched to you i wonder what someone like you could think of creating blackholes on earth...lol..

. . . Space is a three dimensional void and not a land you don't buy land in space.

Extra-terrestrial real estate is about buying land on the MOON and other natural satellites and planets uninhabited... Don't say space next time... Now address the question and don't go into astrogeography because you can't even grasp its tenets..

plappville:


Please dont derail the thread. Have you forgotten the bible is corrupted? Why still pick prophecies to tag Muhammad (SBUH)? THINK OF IT....

plappville:


You didnt address the OP? ? OH i see, the OP KNOCKED YOU DOWN TOO?

mubarakopeyemi:


lol u wan whine.
I see sey market dey sell wella. pls give them discounts abeg
Thumbs up.

I'm not whyning u my bros, you are indeed my Chief.
I already give those stiffnecked reprobate discount, make em continue swimmin in delusion.