"We had problems on a human basis. When he started, nobody knew what was going to happen," he told Goal.com.

"His idea was that he did not care about names at all, you don't need stars, everybody had to prove themselves again.

"The first contact with him was already poisoned. As a professional you lose your trust. He does great things on the pitch but the coach Van Gaal was a bad man. Our relationship was crushed."

Ribery added that his problems with Van Gaal almost saw him leave the club, with a number of European giants circling.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/louis-van-gaal-is-great-on-the-pitch-but-a-bad-man-says-franck-ribery-as-he-lifts-lid-on-10160496.html

Ribery responded by saying he was disappointed his coach had criticised him in the German media and wished van Gaal had spoken to him in person rather than going to the press. "He does his work, I do mine," said Ribery when asked about how he gets on with the coach.
"I give it my best, do everything to get fit again, but when the coach always speaks badly about you, when he keeps on putting you down, then it is tough.

"I need his help. I have got to be able to talk with him and have fun with him. If I cannot do that, then it cannot work on the pitch either.

http://m.fifa.com/fifau20worldcup/news/y=2010/m=11/news=bayern-van-gaal-scolded-for-ribery-outburst-1340504.html

raumdeuter:
As at 2004 Rooney looked more like the finished product compared to Ronaldo

Ronaldo was more talented but he had those childish moves, stepovers just to make fun of a defender and his end product was lacking. Ronaldo looked more like he would tow the path of Quaresma

Rooney at that time played more maturely and at that time looked like he would have a better career than Ronaldo even till 2006 when Ronaldo turned the corner


Regarding Van Gaal at Bayern.

Van Gaal came to Bayern at the right time and he changed our play pattern. Before then we used to play 4-4-2 and he changed it to 4-2-3-1. Drafted Schweinsteiger from an above average midfielder to Central midfielder, lahm to right back from left etc

He didnt care about the big names and he dropped most of them Lucio, Lucatoni, Demichelis, Gomez

His play pattern didnt want any form of risky play he preferred you to play safe just keep passing it around until an opening came. He always clashed with Ribery because Ribery was the opposite and always wanted to take risks





At Barcelona, where his falling out with Rivaldo over the Brazilian's penchant for unscripted dribbling still raises eyebrows,

Dadehmola:


The million dollar question is this...

While in charge at Bayern & The Netherlands, Why did he build his team round an Arjen Robben who could be frustratingly selfish with the ball (despite being one of the best wingers we have seen in the last 5years)?

raumdeuter:


Its like asking that Despite Mourinho's fetish for Wingers who defend, How come he was able to stand Ronaldo and built his attack around him?

Same question was also posed about how Pep would cope with Robben who isnt a tiki taka kind of player

The answer is that some players are soo good that you need to accommodate them. If Messi joins Man Utd or Chelsea and sits at the half way waiting for passes. None of LvG nor Jose would bench them. If they are benched, the club owners would sack him if one result doesnt go his way.

LvG was close to getting sacked barely 3months into his Bayern job if not that results started going his way

raumdeuter:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/may/16/louis-van-gaal-bayern-munich

That was where I got the Rivaldo quote from

He had multiple issues with Rivaldo Playing on the wings was one of them but major was the clash of ego. Rivaldo saw himself as a star and he has to play where he wants, play how he wants dribble how he likes which LvG disagrees with

Its like telling of now to dribble less and play on the wings. If he isnt a humble guy he would revolt

Louis Van Gaal:


"He lacked commitment to the club, he was only interested in making more money and playing less.

"He was chosen as the best player in 1999, but he has not handled himself well since then and has not behaved like a footballer should."He had illusions about Barca and was requesting to take holidays when important Champions League games were approaching. He then hides back home in Brazil.

"He plays for Brazil like we needed him to at Barcelona, and he has proved this in the World Cup finals, showing he reserved himself for Japan.http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11833/2241655/van-gaal-hits-back-at-rivaldo

Dadehmola:


If that's the case, how come LVG had problems with Rivaldo's dribbling as you claimed?? Wasn't Rivaldo one of the best players in the world??

Dadehmola:

coogar:


nani, ronaldo, robben, etc were all like that in the early days too. it's their substandard education in their lower-tier leagues that caused this nonsense.

airmark:

Tell those youngies supporting man utd now about nani and ronaldo having substandard education and playing rubbish at 21, but dont ever use your filthy fingers to type that arjen robben at 20 or 21 was playing nonsense for chelsea in 2004 and 2005.

Bomb dey your head? Robben that was an instant hit when he started playing for us in 2004 and won the premier league player of the month same month he debuted? It's shocking that you would just type lies here in megabytes with no remorse.

He was very instrumenal to our epl title consecutive wins in 2005 and 2006, despite having injury problems. At 20, he won epl title with his contributions well-engraved on the title. he made the PFA team of the year and was the best young player in europe at 21.

If you want to polish your useless depay, please dont let the god of soccer strike you down for ridiculing robben's breathtaking 2004/2005 performances. He might not be superb in goal scoring that time but he would not lose possession stupidly as depay is doing.

Immediately he started for us in 2004/2005, all other teams were destroyed by his mazy runs. Dont compare a clueless player still struggling to control balls with his foot, always missing clear-cut chances to a player who played at the level far above his age for chelsea at 20, with accolades from everywhere. Only feed your fans your lies.

Robben at 20

Depay at 21

raumdeuter:

You know Van Gaal had 2 stints at Barca? I believe it was until the second stint before Rivaldo had to leave. He probably endured Rivaldo at the first stint while Rivaldo was WPOTY

Just the way it is with 2 stubborn people. One would mellow and wait for the slightest opportunity to hit back

E.g If Lvg starts Rivaldo on the left and in the game Rivaldo abandoned his position to the middle started dribbling and scored a hat trick Van gaal would chill, the moment they lose 2 games, He would come back with his "I told you so" and try to enforce his idea he temprarily forgot

Loius Van Gaal:

"I hope there is another Marc Overmars being developed out there somewhere.He was a good dribbler who could beat people one-on-one and that was important for a winger in our system. But he also had a very good assist record and he could score goals."

raumdeuter:

Back to Robben, He robben was the only reason LvG kept his job even though he was selfish but van gaal would just suck it up and watch

Leyqute:
Depay will come good. He probably needs to pass through this difficult moment to get some things right. He's been awful of late but he shouldn't be likened to a knocked-out car engine.

As for Eden,He is a fraud,a one season wonder who won the Pfa,and 4 player of the year awards in France in just one season in England.......
He is not going through a bad form,he is a fraud....

coogar:


robben was actually a frustrating player for chelsea in 2004. he had a great start but then things went pretty bad for him. his 7 goals all season in the PL was a testament to his wastefulness & how frustrating he was. the mark of a good player is his decision making & the ability to look up and find a teammate to pass to with the final ball. all the players i listed above lacked that quality in their respective debut seasons in england.
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coogar:


you never actually saw those games. robben frustrated the fans much more than he did damage to the opponents. in the end, it was chelsea's excellent defending that got them the title, not the attack. your highest goalscorer that season was lampard, not drogba nor kezman nor your robben.
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coogar:

this is like saying pedro was an instant hit when he came to england because of his brilliance in his first few games - where do you borrow common sense from? 7 league goals all season, brilliant player?

coogar:


robben that wasn't part of jose mourinho's untouchables. robben that was mostly used as a sub(impact player) cos he frustrated fans nearly all the time? the selfish robben that never passed to teammates & would dribble into blind alleys till he lost the ball? it's now clear you don't have a memory bank.

coogar:


a player struggling to control ball won the golden boot in the dutch league. robben also played in that league and couldn't win it. both of them were wingers so their primary position had nothing to do with it. just one point destroyed everything that took you 60 mins to type.

coogar:


so these gifs are supposed to determine who the better player was at 21? depay won a golden boot at 21. show us the equivalent of such award that robben won in the dutch league or shüt the fück up till chelsea gets back into the top 4.

AdeLaNa1:


How does som1 get to win France's player of the year four times in England??

Think like a shekpeite

airmark:

[s]Mr. man , things went bad for robben because of injuries, not because he was wasteful. Tell that to your village people. He played 18 games and scored 7 goals. The remaining matches he sat out because of injury, he was not like depay benched because of poor form. He was used just like martial is being used in the wing to destroy defenders in multiple numbers and majorly set up his colleagues to score. In this season, Robben was chelsea's 2nd best to lampard in number of assists despite playing lesser number of matches, so how did he achieve this if he was n't looking up to do final passes as you spuriously said. You must be rolling tyres in the street when robben was playing for us.


You made me laugh. I have been supporting chelsea before they thought you how to use knife and fork. Damien duff and arjen were our key players to unlock stubborn defence lines in which other attackers benefited from. He did n't lose a single epl match he featured in, can you beat that? Only Cech, Terry, lampard and robben made epl team of the year as chelsea players, drogba did nt make it, what does that tell you scummy? well, may be it was the english hyping the dutchman.

Robben was an instant hit as all the games he played in, he ensured he played above average and did n't lose any epl match. After lampard, he was next with number of assists for chelsea. He played 18 matches (due to injury), he won 16 and drew 2 and still made the epl team of the year ahead of other players that played more matches. I dont need to go further on how effective he was. At least you went to secondary school.

Robben mostly used as sub in 2004/2005 season? Unrepentant liar. Out of 18 matches he played, he only played as sub in 4 because of injuries. He was nt losing the ball like depay when he was without injuries. Despite playing a lesser number of matches, he was chelsea's 2nd best with number of assists. It was his injuries that made him not to be an untouchable chelsea player. Dont sell a dummy here.

Robben said : "It was hard at first because I came with an injury. It was very difficult for me and also for him (mourinho). Of course, mourinho doesn't like players who get injured. So it wasn't easy but I always had the feeling I had his confidence.
"I played some great games for Chelsea but it was unfortunate I had injury problems and I couldn't do it over a long period – like now.



That's why we said depay is a scam. If you are the highest goal scorer in dutch league , it means nothing to me but very huge to mumus like you. Kuyt at 35, an epl long time reject is at present dutch highest goal scorer with 10 goals. Shame on you, depay and LVG. Meanwhile, there is a reason depay was nt awarded the best player in that league and also not the dutch player of the year. Man utd was scammed by dutch mafias, pure money laundering fraud.



Just like i said kuyt is the current highest goal scorer in the dutch league, you should advise LVG to sign him by january. You want me to use foul language on you but i wont descend to that level. I used gif to tell you robben at 20 was a god to depay at 21 (even at his career peak). Robben was not struggling to trap balls like depay . He was not clueless with balls like merefish. Robben was one of our best performers in 2004/2005 season helping in winning matches. His dribbling runs were premium, depay at present is the direct opposite of 2004/2005's robben .

Comparing robben's early years at chelsea to depay's at man utd is like comparing an electric light to a spoilt lighter. [/s]

chrisley024:
Louis van Gaal has confirmed to MUTV that Antonio Valencia, James Wilson and Memphis are injured for Manchester United's Barclays Premier League match with Crystal Palace.

coogar:



[s]http://forum.cybereagles.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=88302[/s]

ElFenomeno1:
I wonder why we are still having a Depay back and forth here..... Coogar you need to stop bleating and give it a rest, no matter what you say, Depay has been royally useless and is grossly overrated!!!
End off!!!!

airmark:


So you had to bring 2007 forum discussions to show rooben was rubbish in his debut season which was 2 years away. Keeping mute would have been better for you.

Robben's first month playing in epl would be depay's best month of his career, if he would ever have such. Don't expect any reply from me again until you name a non-english player at 21 that played 18 games or less out of possible 38 and made epl team of the season. Thanks

coogar:


he has scored 4 more goals than hazard this season. matter of fact, if depay scores 4 more goals this season, he would have matched everything robben did in his debut season in england.

if depay has been royally useless - pray tell....WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ABOUT HAZARD? it's been 13 games now this season & hazard hasn't found the net.

ElFenomeno1:
I wonder why we are still having a Depay back and forth here..... Coogar you need to stop bleating and give it a rest, no matter what you say, Depay has been royally useless and is grossly overrated!!!
End off!!!!

funlord:


This highlighted point must be why they prefer to use any other player in their clubs history APART from HAZARD whenever they want to discuss or compare and contrast "depays form" this season? Lmao!!!

airmark:
Imagine o. He now came here saying robben was also poor like him in his first season at chelsea. That he did nt give final passes to team mates, yet robben was the highest assists giver second to lampard in that season.

Even his man utd colleagues are disappointed in him. He said LVG's philosophy affected depay not to be able to control balls. To be shrugged off the ball by championship defenders. Missing begging chances here and there. In the last match, the commentator did n't know when he said ''this is not what man utd spent 25m for''. Depay should be compared with the likes of kakuta, obertan in epl.

Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho says he cannot promise the club will qualify for the Champions League this season.

coogar:



robben being the 2nd assist maker in chelsea says nothing about his wastefulness. use your cognitive reasoning appropriately. the number of assists he made that season is about 5% of what he shoulda made. this is why we think he's poor. robben always made poor decisions in 04/05. he shot when he shoulda passed, he passed when he shoulda shot.

chrisley024:
@airmark, make you dey here dey argue instead of fasting and praying for your team