IlekeHD:
Yoruba people, una fall my hand.

How can you sit there and let one Igbo non grata mod rewrite your history.

He even said "omo" and "Oba" arent Yoruba words.

Seun see ya life. Is this really your agenda?

No bastard can rewrite Yoruba history, I was going to doing panelbeating of truth into the idoit head, but then some more lenient Yoruba already did it.

sanmibukunmi:
very interesting and educating thread.....but I was surprised when someone said Oba is not a Yoruba word. like seriously? and that Edo gave the word when they conquered Lagos......where do they get the books they read from

What he wrote is garbage. You need to disregard that.

IlekeHD:


It'd really surprise me if Urhobo and Itsekiris don't stay with an Odu'a republic.

Itsekiri will go with Odua. Never the Urhobo, not after Awolowo did to them. And it's a shame that this thread has condescend to a proxy war between the Yoruba and the Igbo. Big big shame

Goodboiy:


NO URHOBO CLAN HAS IGBO ANCESTRY … We re 100% Edo.. You better edit your post before other Urhobo sees it.. We re not connected to Igbo in any way

. Shatap, and stop exhibiting your ignorance out of your pathological hatred for Igbo. You should be happy that you are being linked to the most advanced, most accommodating, and most intelligent tribe in Nigeria

absoluteSuccess:


He is playing to the galery, his agenda is to ensure that nothing would become of Yoruba tradition on a page igbo is mentioned.

It is a sign of not capable of standing others greatness without finding recless way to bring them down.

It's insecurity and something the Igbo nation has to overcome.

It's getting out of hand.....it's becoming pathetic to see bigfrancis misinform the public and to turn this section to anti-Yoruba under Seun's watch.

The guy was a tribalist before he became a mod.

Watch him delete our posts.

enigmatique:


In fact, the latter part of that Urhobo sentence sounds a lot like Yoruba. That is, if Orgor=inlaw=ana (in Yoruba), then check this out:
ana re nko?

Igbos equally use nko. People should stop thinking in one direction. An Igboman will ask Ogor gi kwanu? or Ogor e nkor? depending on the dialect of Igbo which is in hundreds. Let us just know that Igbo-Edo-Yoruba spoke one language in distant past and have experienced inter migrations even in more recent times.

mikigen:
Am bk again my contribution EWA in yoruba means beans EWA in Urhobo means beans too.

What of isha Isn't beans? because that is what most of my friends pronounce and call it.

I believe all languages borrow from other languages at a point in time, so no language can't b quite unique to itself without some form of interference from other languages. Again we should understand that languages evolve around the environment in interacts with e.g the Portuguese call gold "Oro" and that is what the Urhobos also call it probably as a result from interactions with the Portuguese. Finally, let's all realise that language is dynamic and not static.

Bigfrancis21, I think we've had enough of the derailing of the thread via this proxy war. Enough is enough. There are loads of Urhobo people who never grew up at home and can't speak the language. This thread is to help them at least learn some words not for yoruba and igbos to come and start claiming superiority.

ubecharles:
. Shatap, and stop exhibiting your ignorance out of your pathological hatred for Igbo. You should be have that you are being linked to the most advanced, most accommodating, and most intelligent tribe in Nigeria

This chestbeating is what I find confusing about Igbo people.

You cannot FORCE people I repeat FORCE people to want to be associated with you.

This is why say if Biafra is declared 90% OF THE SS WILL PREFER TO STAY WITH THE WEST.

You have no respect for other people wishes

Goodboiy:
Hi peeps.. I haven't create any new thread recently due to some reasons best known To me, Although I still Remain your loyal boy "Goodboiyy" . Below are some Igbo and Yoruba word used in Urhobo language.

1. Biko : Biko is an Igbo word for "Please" And it means same in Urhobo, in Urhobo you usually hear word like "Oghene' biko keme' Igho" Meaning "God please Give me money".

2. Olori : Olori is a Yoruba Word for Head .. in Urhobo it means the same thing..

3. Orgor' : Orgor' is an Igbo word for 'Inlaw'. It means the same thing in Urhobo.. for example I might say "Oniovo Orgor we' nkor " meaning 'brother how is Your Inlaw ".

4. Omo' : Omo'r is a Yoruba word for Child, It has same meaning in Urhobo.. I can make statement like " e' Freemanan Omo'r meh' … meaning "Freemanan is my Son"

5. Obara' : Obara is an Igbo word for blood.. It means Same In Urhobo.. Why The Igbo woman will shout "Obara Jesus" and Urhobo Woman will say "Oba'rah' Re' Jesu"

6. Jesu' : Jesu' is an Yoruba word for Jesus . its still the same in Urhobo

7. Ew'a : Ew'a is another Yoruba word for Beans and its thesame with Urhobo. Ew'a is pronounced in Urhobo exactly thesame with That of Yoruba

8. OBA : OBA is a Yoruba word for king , We still use it in Urhobo.. If we Want to Call God.. we say Oba' risi' meaning " King Of The Word"

9. Akpere : Is a Yoruba word for basket, it means the same Thing in Urhobo

10. Ego : Its an Igbo word for Money.. in Urhobo we say Igho .. I believe the word belongs to Igboid.

11. ejime : Its an Igbo word for Twins, Its spelt and Pronounced The same in Urhobo

12. Osusu : Is a Yoruba Word for Monthly savings. Its the same in Urhobo

Pls don't derail the thread. THANKS

In essence you trying to say "Urhobo is fusion of Yoruba and Igbo" the mid-point where both languages met! No problem with that! ; To all my Igbo folks ndo, bia biko no be fight, we after all brothers and sisters! 8_

Goodboiy:
Hi peeps.. I haven't create any new thread recently due to some reasons best known To me, Although I still Remain your loyal boy "Goodboiyy" . Below are some Igbo and Yoruba word used in Urhobo language.

1. Biko : Biko is an Igbo word for "Please" And it means same in Urhobo, in Urhobo you usually hear word like "Oghene' biko keme' Igho" Meaning "God please Give me money".

2. Olori : Olori is a Yoruba Word for Head .. in Urhobo it means the same thing..

3. Orgor' : Orgor' is an Igbo word for 'Inlaw'. It means the same thing in Urhobo.. for example I might say "Oniovo Orgor we' nkor " meaning 'brother how is Your Inlaw ".

4. Omo' : Omo'r is a Yoruba word for Child, It has same meaning in Urhobo.. I can make statement like " e' Freemanan Omo'r meh' … meaning "Freemanan is my Son"

5. Obara' : Obara is an Igbo word for blood.. It means Same In Urhobo.. Why The Igbo woman will shout "Obara Jesus" and Urhobo Woman will say "Oba'rah' Re' Jesu"

6. Jesu' : Jesu' is an Yoruba word for Jesus . its still the same in Urhobo

7. Ew'a : Ew'a is another Yoruba word for Beans and its thesame with Urhobo. Ew'a is pronounced in Urhobo exactly thesame with That of Yoruba

8. OBA : OBA is a Yoruba word for king , We still use it in Urhobo.. If we Want to Call God.. we say Oba' risi' meaning " King Of The Word"

9. Akpere : Is a Yoruba word for basket, it means the same Thing in Urhobo

10. Ego : Its an Igbo word for Money.. in Urhobo we say Igho .. I believe the word belongs to Igboid.

11. ejime : Its an Igbo word for Twins, Its spelt and Pronounced The same in Urhobo

12. Osusu : Is a Yoruba Word for Monthly savings. Its the same in Urhobo

Pls don't derail the thread. THANKS

In essence you trying to say "Urhobo is fusion of Yoruba and Igbo" the mid-point where both languages met! No problem with that! ; To all my Igbo folks ndo, bia biko no be fight, we after all brothers and sisters! 8_

Ego is not igo, it is igho, the combination of d letters gh gives it a pronunciation dats way different from ego..

Abagworo:


Igbos equally use nko. People should stop thinking in one direction. An Igboman will ask Ogor gi kwanu? or Ogor e nkor? depending on the dialect of Igbo which is in hundreds. Let us just know that Igbo-Edo-Yoruba spoke one language in distant past and have experienced inter migrations even in more recent times.

Nko is a Yoruba word, used as a question marker like "se".

Yoruba has become such a national language over time that you guys are beginning to see it as your native language.

Even the pidgin English has adopted Yoruba words as slangs.

50 years from now, we'll have this same conversation about "wahala", "jor/jare" etc.

bigfrancis21:


@OP...Jesu, Omo and Oba are not Yoruba words. Jesu is derived from Jesus and cannot be considered Yoruba in anyway. Jesu is only a localized adaptation of the Jesus name in Christianity amongst Igbos and Yorubas. Jesus Christ is Jesu Kristi in Igbo as well.

Omo is common to Edo languages, Urhobo, Isoko, and Yoruba and cannot be said to be derived from Yoruba specifically.

As for Oba, I think you are looking for the origin far beyond where you should. Oba is a Bini/Edo word and NOT a Yoruba word. Ancient Yoruba kings were never addressed as Oba but were known by their various territorial titles such as alaafin of xyz, ajuwale of abc. We begin to see the appearance of Oba in Yoruba land after the Binis conquered Lagos and installed an Oba of Lagos (mind you this Oba was a Bini Oba, not a Yoruba Oba, ruling over Lagos) after which the usage of 'Oba' began to spread over Yoruba land.

You also forgot to include that 'igho' is similar to 'ego' in Igbo for money.

In a very informative thread such as this, this post will qualify for the dumb-mest( if there exist such a word) post in NL today. coming from a MOD I am shocked.

Whoever paid your school fees, go and return it, you are not very smart. I am saying this with all sense of responsibility.

IlekeHD:


It's insecurity and something the Igbo nation has to overcome.

It's getting out of hand.....it's becoming pathetic to see bigfrancis misinform the public and to turn this section to anti-Yoruba under Seun's watch.

The guy was a tribalist before he became a mod.

Watch him delete our posts.

That guy was a rabid bigot. How on earth did he become a moderator anyway?

Pls Ewa is not an urhobo word. The urhobo word for beans is ISHA.

If this thread really had a MOD and not a BOT, he would have banned all these igbo derailers since.. It is just pathetic that every SS thread degenerates into a biafran mudslinging fest.! Infact seun should censor the word biafran, and replace it with sun-chaser

Dont forget that Urhobo has a word for king.. OVIE

NewNigeriaMind:


Thanks for clarifying it for the guy, I was shocked when I read his initial post. Na wa........

Even the bini man will not cliam Oba is a Bini word

Yes boss.

He is, obviously like many other folks, blinded by hate for the Yoruba and would as a result throw everything Yoruba under the bus.

airsaylongcon:
Bigfrancis21, I think we've had enough of the derailing of the thread via this proxy war. Enough is enough. There are loads of Urhobo people who never grew up at home and can't speak the language. This thread is to help them at least learn some words not for yoruba and igbos to come and start claiming superiority.

This thread is supposed to be for Igbo and Yoruba words, and influences thereof, found in Urhobo and not a supposed Urhobo language learning thread. If I am wrong, re-read the title of the thread again to understand what it is actually for.

airsaylongcon:
Bigfrancis21, I think we've had enough of the derailing of the thread via this proxy war. Enough is enough. There are loads of Urhobo people who never grew up at home and can't speak the language. This thread is to help them at least learn some words not for yoruba and igbos to come and start claiming superiority.

Yorubas could care less about which words are being used by Urhobo. Claiming that Yoruba words aren't Yoruba is insulting to more than 60milliin people.

Ewa in Yoruba means beans and same in Urhobo, but there are Urhobo words for beans which are peculiar to "Us" i.e the ésha is a different specie of beans while the white one is called "iré". So depending on your dialect/part of Urhoboland you hail from they could mean one and same or different, as for me I am from Olomu and iré and ésha are distinctly different.

Goodboiy:


Regarding The Bolded.. don't think so.. Am Urhobo.. We trace our Ancestry to Bini ..

Thanks for your contribution.. CC: Rose2014 were re thou

plz why didn't you trace your language ancestry to bini

Abagworo:


Igbos equally use nko. People should stop thinking in one direction. An Igboman will ask Ogor gi kwanu? or Ogor e nkor? depending on the dialect of Igbo which is in hundreds. Let us just know that Igbo-Edo-Yoruba spoke one language in distant past and have experienced inter migrations even in more recent times.

I don't think 'nko' is an Igbo word. It is a Yoruba word widely used in pidgin English.

Aigbofa:


That guy was a rabid bigot. How on earth did he become a moderator anyway?

I think they vote on it. There's a moderator forum that nonmods can't see..

Seun how did this tribalist become a mod? You might as well make me a mod in the politics section.

NewNigeriaMind:


In a very informative thread such as this, this post will qualify for the dumb-mest( if there exist such a word) post in NL today. coming from a MOD I am shocked.

Whoever paid your school fees, go and return it, you are not very smart. I am saying this with all sense of responsibility.

The boy littered this thread with lies. It is very annoying that a MOD will be misinforming the public. Thank God some Yoruba quickly saw his lies and corrected it. I never knew the e-tribal war has reached this level.

Goodboiy:


12. Osusu : Is a Yoruba Word for Monthly savings. Its the same in Urhobo

Before you assign any word to a particular group, make sure you did your research!

Isusu has Igbo origin. It is an ancient banking tradition of the Nri Igbo brought to the Americas by the Igbo slaves. It beacame known as "Susu".

One day an ignorant father will tell his children OBA is not a Yoruba word but a Bini word,

15 years later, the ignorant father has transfer his ignorance to his next generation, the ignorant adults will begin to argue with other enlighten people that they know for a fact OBA is not a Yoruba word.

Such is the situation we find ourselves with these people.

IlekeHD:


I think they vote on it. There's a moderator forum that nonmods can't see..

Seun how did this tribalist become a mod? You might as well make me a mod in the politics section.

Seun please make Ilekeh a MOD, you have nothing to lose. If The ignorant person I read his post on the second page can be a MOD.

At least we know she is smart.

bigfrancis21:


This thread is supposed to be for Igbo and Yoruba words, and influences thereof, found in Urhobo and not a supposed Urhobo language learning thread. If I am wrong, re-read the title of the thread again to understand what it is actually for.

I believe the op created this thread to inform and educate people about his culture not to misinform as you have been trying to do.
And you call yourself a moderator?

bigfrancis21:


This thread is supposed to be for Igbo and Yoruba words, and influences thereof, found in Urhobo and not a supposed Urhobo language learning thread. If I am wrong, re-read the title of the thread again to understand what it is actually for.

Bruh, change your name to smallfrancis21........You are not big at all....what do you weight.... 165 pounds?

Radoillo:


I was also a little perplexed by the emboldened. I know the Igbo (especially the southern Igbo) have a savings system called Isusu, which they say they've had since the precolonial days.

But I've also seen claims that the Yoruba have a similar system which they call Esu or Esusu.

@OP: Do the Urhobo use 'ugo' for 'eagle' or is it just the Orogun that do?

I didn't know it was called Esusu, I know it as "Ajo"