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Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by IlekeHD: 5:31pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
Who knows how long the reclassification of Yoruba culture and language has been going on in this section? Most Yorubas don't even visit this section unless it's on front page. Is there a thread on how "eko" is an Igbo word? Cc Seun 13 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by AyakaDunukofia: 5:31pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
Goodboiy: I heard Uhrobos/Isoko call in-law 'ogom" which is the same in Igbo? Pig as 'Ezi' in both languages? |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by IGBOPRINCE: 5:37pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
fratermathy:pls which of the edo languages the urhobo re similar with? Cos the last time I travelled to edo state. I was marvelled at the existence of many languages in edo state. The auchi,the esan, the okada, the oredos, the akoko edos and the binis. Pls I respects your comments but I need to know the particular language that s similar to that of urhobo at bolded. 1 Like |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by 4C2215131: 5:39pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
fratermathy: This is really revealing. |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by DOCTORDONE: 5:40pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
Goooood! Shows we are one no matter the differences. |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by Xfemt(m): 5:40pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
BROS abeg olori no be head for urhobo like wise Ewa no be beans for urhobo
CORRECTION:
Uyovwe na head for urhobo
And
Isha or esha ny be beans For the rest I hail u, U try I de hold u one mosquito lap |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by MsZeezah: 5:41pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
Goodboiy:It is called Èsúsú or Èésú in Yoruba Language. And it means monthly contributions 3 Likes |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by airsaylongcon: 5:41pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: And the several derailing? Arguments about which word is yoruba or Igbo? Or which part of Urhobo is Igbo or not? 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by Classicool(m): 5:42pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
AyakaDunukofia:Is Osusu not Isusu... So don't derail it. 1 Like |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by airsaylongcon: 5:44pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
IGBOPRINCE: I stand to be corrected, I think it's closer to Esan. But an Urhobo will identify Bini language when spoken without even understanding a word of what is been said 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by bigfrancis21: 5:45pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
Aigbofa: I am not misinforming anybody. I have evidence for what I had said: (8.). "Oba" is a word adopted from Benin and not Yoruba as many made us to believe. There is no king of Yoruba's people. and if there is, what was his title?;how many Yoruba prominent traditional leaders/rulers carried the title Oba? since when?.if Yoruba calls their king Oba,it doesn't mean we derived our king's name (N'Oba) from them. Everyone has a name for king in the their native language/tongue. The Oba of Lagos is Eleko of Eko not Oba, the British change it to Oba. the Origin of word "oba" is Benin http://ihuanedo.ning.com/forum/topics/why-yoruba-never-had-an-empire-but-civilized-by-benin?groupUrl=healtheducation&x=1&groupId=2971192%3AGroup%3A14663&id=2971192%3ATopic%3A124153&page=1 I am not derailing the thread and, just like others, only corrected some of the words the wordlist the op provided. Others, Urhobos I believe, have corrected him on some of the words he listed as Urhobo to not be Urhobo words but gave their actual Urhobo words. Anyway, I have made my point. 3 Likes |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by Abagworo(m): 5:45pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
Ofklaw: Which of course is related to Igbo word Obi and still said to be traced to Bini word Oba which is shared between Bini and Yoruba which in turn means we are all related. |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by kokorodudu(f): 5:46pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
Like seriously, what's original to you guys? Goodboiy: |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by Kirigidi(m): 5:47pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
OP, I'm not so happy wit dis ur post. Why do u hav to treat Urhobo dis way nd surprisly, u ar even an Urhobo? How did u know dat it was Urhobo language dat borrowd those words frm Igbo nd Yoruba languages, nd not d other way round? Is it because Urhobo is a minority language nd d other two ar majority languages? So u mean because Urhobo is a minor language there4 Igbo nd Yoruba languages can't loan/borrow words from it? Dat is a lie. Languages dat ar neighbors can borrow words frm one anoda irrespectiv of size. While I'm not disputin d fact dat Urhobo language share these words in common d them, it is also possible dat those words u listd were borrowd frm Urhobo language by Igbo nd Yoruba languages. Moreova, d name "Jesu" u mentiond did not in anyway originatd frm Yoruba. Rather, "Jesu" is d Portuguese name for Jesus. And if u culd rememba, d Portuguese were d first Europeans we interactd wit via trades, nd many of dia words were adoptd by our ancestors, e.g. oro (gold), sabato (sandals), Escravos, Forcados, etc. |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by LordAdam: 5:48pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
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Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by bigfrancis21: 5:48pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
airsaylongcon: I am not derailing the thread but making corrections on some of the words the op wrongly ascribed to a certain tribe. Just as I corrected him that Jesu is not a Yoruba word but common to almost all African languages, so did someone also correct him by saying olori and ewa that he mentioned are not Urhobo words for head and beans but uyovwe and isha. Should that be classified as derailing too? Xfemt: 3 Likes |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by IGBOPRINCE: 5:48pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
airsaylongcon:esan? I guess the esan speaks bini. ok thanx.. |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by LordAdam: 5:50pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
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Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by IlekeHD: 5:51pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: Have a piece of shame. Your evidence is a blog from someone who may just be as ignorant as you? And you wonder why this is the only evidence? We need history classes in Nigeria. Awwww this is getting pathetic. 15 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by macof(m): 5:52pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
IlekeHD: Ahh! Makes sense but is this "Esusu" pronounced like "Osu"? 1 Like |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by bigfrancis21: 5:53pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
Classicool: Dude, Bini and Yoruba languages are 2 different languages, save for a few words in common just as Igbo and Yoruba share words in common but are 2 totally different languages. When a Bini person writes his language here, you as a Yoruba will not pick up what he is trying to say. This is a misrepresentation of facts. Edo is not even classified as Yoruboid to begin with but as an entirely different language class on its own. Stop the misrepresentation of facts. 3 Likes |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by AyakaDunukofia: 5:54pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
macof: You may be correct. Igbo and Yoruba might have practiced similar system but the word Isusu has Igbo origins. The Isusu: An Institution For Capital Formation Among the Ngwa Igbo; Its Origin and Development to 1951 http://www.africabib.org/rec.php?RID=191683221 |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by bigfrancis21: 5:55pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
absoluteSuccess: I asked you for evidence but you cannot provide any, other than the repetition of what you have been told since childhood you have come to believe as true, 1 Like |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by macof(m): 5:55pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
Goodboiy: I've not confirmed yet o. . |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by deramarks(f): 5:57pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
We all speak d same language nau but we don't know lol one day while d hausas were speakin their language I was tryin to figure out if there was anytin about d language I cud grab nd I tort I head one say" ukwu mah!" Which means diz ma waist in igbo lol I cudnt stop laffin wehn I remember ma shock dat day lol. Just try listenin to d hausas rap their languge u'll hear a lot of ur own language dere used for oda purpose |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by mikigen(m): 5:58pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
asuustrike2009:yes its still means bean in URHOBO language its actually "ESHA" |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by IGBOPRINCE: 5:59pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
LordAdam:on points 1 Like |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by IlekeHD: 5:59pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
macof: Esu- a Yoruba mythological God. Esusu, I believe means monetary contribution. Other similar terms: Araaro- every morning | aaro -morning Alale- every evening | ale - evening Ododun- every year |Odun - Year 3 Likes |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by Kirigidi(m): 6:00pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
airsaylongcon:I strongly believ dat Urhobo-Isoko nd Ishan languages ar one language originaly, judgin by d close similarities existin btw them. Howeva, geographical isolation occassioned by migrations in d ancient pasts may hav brought about d present variations existin in d two languages (i.e. Urhobo-Isoko nd Ishan). |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by NewNigeriaMind: 6:00pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: You should be ashamed of yourself as a MOD, seun please how can you make this tribalist a MOD. Your sources is from a website that is everything anti-Yoruba. Leaving that aside, what is the correlation between this two. From your initial post: Ancient Yoruba kings were never addressed as Oba but were known by their various territorial titles such as alaafin of xyz, ajuwale of abc. We begin to see the appearance of Oba in Yoruba land after the Binis conquered Lagos and installed an Oba of Lagos (mind you this Oba was a Bini Oba, not a Yoruba Oba, ruling over Lagos) after which the usage of 'Oba' began to spread over Yoruba land. Now the source you quoted says this: (8.). "Oba" is a word adopted from Benin and not Yoruba as many made us to believe. There is no king of Yoruba's people. and if there is, what was his title?;how many Yoruba prominent traditional leaders/rulers carried the title Oba? since when?.if Yoruba calls their king Oba,it doesn't mean we derived our king's name (N'Oba) from them. Everyone has a name for king in the their native language/tongue. The Oba of Lagos is Eleko of Eko not Oba, the British change it to Oba. the Origin of word "oba" is Benin what is use of this "the Binis conquered Lagos and installed an Oba of Lagos" in the context of your source "Eleko of Eko not Oba" you are shameless tribalist you are really dumb THOUGH cause the reasonable question is, are we are to believe Oba is a Bini WORD( EVEN THOUGH THE BINI PEOPLE DONT CLAIM IT TO BE SO) because of this "British change it to Oba." and your ignorant and hate filled sources concluded without any eveidence in the write up "the British change it to Oba. the Origin of word "oba" is Benin" Like Ilekeh ASKED, one day you Igbo people will say Eko is an Igbo word 18 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by NewNigeriaMind: 6:02pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: And the only evidence you have is this: OTEDO.COM 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by bigfrancis21: 6:02pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
IlekeHD: I believe that you are an adult and you are capable of holding a debate without resorting to insults. You live in a foreign country and I expect better etiquette from you. What makes him ignorant? You do realize now that I wasn't just making up things for myself and actually had a source? You think I just wake up one morning and say things? 4 Likes 1 Share |
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