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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:38pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
IyaIode: [img]http://h6.abload.de/img/0382_s7tr.gif[/img] |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:39pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Firefire:Absolute truth, i am happy we are beginning to critique ourselves even on this thread |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 3:45pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
IyaIode: Like modath said, we should remove the log of wood in our eyes before we can see clearly to remove from others... If the western states beginning from Lagos, Ogun, Oyo, Osun, Ekiti, Ondo etc can fully utilize all their IGR + their individual state share from the federation account (26% State + 26.5% for LGA) + the SUREP allocation + their respective share from the Excess crude oil account, without any misappropriation, PLEASE, WHY DO WE STILL NEED ALL THIS HUGE LOANS... ![]() Eje ka ba ra wa so oto oro... 9 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 3:48pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Eyin Omo Odua, se ele yi bojumu ![]() ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/2736266/photos-ayedire-local-government-secretariat |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:51pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Firefire:I am not entirely against loans for infrastructure, but borrow to pay salaries is just stupid, like i said few days ago, these states should sack 80% of their workforce, this is the best time to do it. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:53pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Na wah! That's Osun state ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 3:55pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Shy, what exactly is the yoruba cause? ... you do realise that Yoruba folks who don't carry cards but must align someplace where their agitations will be met? You don't realise the peculiarity of the situation in Nigeria, we practise politics of exclusion & yorubas are tired of swimming against the tide!!! You can't use the west as a yardstick here, we have different realities, E.g when you post about NID doing us proud, i love it, up its LIKE quota but sincerely don't remember them the next day cos it is not my REALITY... Did the shoeless one perform? But Romanis were ready to go to hades for me cos he put their people in strategic posts ..... The former SGF got to the office of the SGF of the federation, posted out all the SWners & the Malas & proceeded to go to the East to import everything with certificate from there into the FEDERAL service on 2 grades above what should ordinarily be , & he got away with it cos they had political power.. The yoruba cause is one that will see it the progress of the SW & i am here for any character that will push it... 2011, i didn't vote for ACN/Ribadu cos i don't see no leadership quality in him..... *sidebar* , still wondering the level 16 romani civil servant who stuck his head out for that dissident's bail, still wondering how he will be able to explain away having a land in central Abuja on a DD's Salary... ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 3:58pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
IyaIode: I did put up some suggestions yesterday but one thing I forgot to add is accountabilty.I also wanted to map out how every state can tap from its potentials to generate wealth as well but I've done that repeatedly and I couldn't find the exact page plus I was lazy to type Aareonakakanfo: |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 4:00pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
IyaIode: If you ask for their sack, are the states ready to pay their severance packages ? Don't forget the state cannot even meet the current obligation of paying wages and retirees pension. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 4:01pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 4:09pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Firefire: Fire de!!! Ajala ta ni no ooo .... ![]() My post fit right into your bias ba?? ![]() You are always here to hammer on the inadequacies of the SW govs but will scurry away when the cupabilities of your party at the FEDERAL LEVEL.. is being highlighted.. States isn't my forte but I've been here prior to OBJ so we can tell the real story not your party's version.. Your intentions aren't pure & we ALL know it..... ![]() Nuff said about this, will be in Ghost mode till we move on to the next.. 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 4:11pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
modath: Hammer on the nail. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Gbawe: 4:14pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Shymm3x: So what exactly are you suggesting? he starts a thread and then dictatorially determine those who can comment and those who must not comment? Is that not intolerance? You have to learn to tolerate the views of others. We all have to do that because no one is right always. You can call others political jobbers all you wish, because their opinion is contrary to yours, but OP has no right to start a thread here and then try to disenfranchise anyone - especially other Yorubas who are passionate about their region of origin as much as the next man but don't feel the need to insult dissenting voices. Shymmex, you have good points and your contributions here are valuable but we all have to accommodate the views of others. @OP perhaps you need to start naming those invited to comment here and spare 'unwanted' posters from making the mistake of thinking this is a thread all patriotic Yorubas are free to contribute to, without being insulted, whatever their viewpoint. We should learn to speak to each other tolerantly and politely even if our views differ. No one is saying Yoruba leaders have not made mistakes but we need to look at where we are now pragmatically, when we have fought political wars since 1999 to gain a benevolent centre that will partner us, and the chance to consolidate on what is a very strong and influential position. I have seen talks of a new party and other ideas. How long does it take for a new Party to gain traction in Nigeria if not linked to people with strong grassroot clout? @OP Can you eschew idealism and give us an honest answer to these questions? What became of the political careers of Tai Solarin, Gani Fawehinmi, Wole Soyinka et al? I.e men of unimpeachable characters that the people would still not follow politically? Is political clout in Nigeria about being a saint? Can you form a new Party and get Yorubas to follow you because of your angelic profile alone? Trying to state things politely here, albeit opposite to the view of others, should not routinely be met by Fayose-style intolerance and lack of decorum. Why? Are you not the OP who should neutrally insist on tolerance and the cessation of talk from some that makes them feel they are more Yoruba than others and are somehow more entitled than others to speak on this your thread? Is that what we Yorubas are about? Does anyone have proprietary claim over this thread or are all Yorubas and even non-Yorubas who mean the region well not free to contribute here? The point is that the Yorubas, through the APC, [size=14pt]and since 1999[/size], are part of a centre that has a human face and good intentions plus will not impede us from developing as we wish. [size=14pt]This is what we have always wanted and fought for[/size]. This is the time to take advantage of our politcally strategic position to face and achieve what matters instead of remaining mired in the bellicose and pugnacious witch hunting of one leader or the other. We have the very competent Fashola as Minister of power. Under Fayemi, we can achieve what I have always felt would be a game changer for the SW i.e SW States being able to mine, control and gain socio-economic benefits from the numerous mineral assets under their soil. We can really be what we want to be under this Buhari government. Mistakes were made in the past but why speak as if this is all our future will be about when things are vastly different now, because of the politcal effort these same leaders we malign put in, and when we now only need to be smart, strategic and calculated to get what we want? We could, for example form a Nairaland lobby group so we present formal requests and demands to our leaders that will at least get them thinking. I would for example prefer to ask Fayemi to consider a framework where states have the autonomy to control their mineral assets rather than demand he be stoned publicly. I would want to engage Fashola to know his plans for adequate electricity supply so Nigeria, to include the SW, can thrive. Regardless of the past, and what leaders did, we have it good today politically , because we worked for it, and cannot lose sight of that or throw our vantage point reality away , to be chasing shadows, because we only want to be negative for the sake of that alone. [size=14pt]We cannot make the mistake of others who had the chance to better themselves through having the political ear of the centre yet squandered that opportunities focusing on frivolities, vengeance, bellicosity and what does not matter at all and should be consigned to the past.[/size] We should learn from others to focus on what matters and the tangible dividends of democracy association to the centre can deliver for us. Look at the number of influential Ministers the SW now has that is a recognition the region has leadership talent entrusted with reforming Nigeria. Furthermore, where will the "new leaders" and new Party some ask for here come from? Mars? Or will they not be the same men and women conditioned by the Nigerian system and are therefore compelled to do their best within that system to get what they want? We can stay here insulting Nigerians and their leaders all day yet I am willing to wager that the most negative here will not be able to repeat their negative talk in a year after some of the reforms some of the pragmatic Yoruba leaders and others, on the ground, would have begun helping Buhari to improve Nigeria. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 4:18pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
modath: Ti oju ba de le, a rimu... PDP Government is the worst in the history of SW, se ti Gbenga Daniel ni ka so ni Ogun State ni, abi ti Alao Akala ni Oyo to fi gbogbo owo ara ilu bora tan, abi ti Olagunsoye Oyinlola ni ipinle Osun? Ti o ba ma ni'idi, obirin kin na je Ku'molu ? Ti akoko oro ba to, emi awi tenu mi. Egbe pidipi je egbe awon igara olosa, a lo ki olohun kigbe, sugbon iyato da, eyin ara ? Larin egbe awon gbewiri -pidipi ati awon Ogboju ole - Apicii? Oro bo ro bo...Egun alare... Te mi yeye mi. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by FreeGlobe(f): 4:24pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
modath:This is my problem with you tribalistic yorubas. Why must everything be about igbos? Is this not supposed to be a yoruba thread or you want us to invade and tear this thread apart? Now that you removed the shoeless one and put the dull one, how market? Have yorubas been able to occupy the "strategic seats" we occupied during the time of the shoeless one. It's envy and covetousness that will kill foolish yorubas like you. Let me see you again in praising buhari on nairaland. You have been noted and this your post has been entered into the archives. 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 4:24pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Gbawe & shymmex, I can see both sides. Gbawe, you mentioned being positive. Apart from political positions, when considering SW politicians, what should we be positive about? 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by veraponpo(m): 4:25pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Gbawe: Epic. This is great, I must confess. Please are you a politician? Sorry for being too direct. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 4:27pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
What is the realistic solution to the huge recurring expenditure every state is burdened with monthly which is mainly salaries 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 4:29pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Gbawe: Na wah why everybody come dey vex like this? Kilode ![]() ![]() I thought we've settled this issue. Sir Gbawe. I don't determine those who can comment and those who can't comment.I don't think I've done that so far except those who I know never came here with good intentions and you and I know them ![]() I tolerate everyone's opinion here and If you go through my post history, its difficult to point out faults as regards the way I've managed this thread.The only people I vent my anger on are the derailers.I'm not into politics anymore so I don't really get involved in political discussions. As per the emboldend,I think I'll let others be the judge. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Gbawe: 4:34pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Ibebe: Can you not see it? for the first time since 1999 we are now linked to a benevolent centre that will partner us and grant concession that can assist our development and that of all region that wishes to be serious and focused. You think it is for nothing Buhari has made Fayemi Minister of solid minerals when the sector was rendered moribund by political indolence and lack of goodwill in the past? As far as I see it, the situation is akin to being in prison for so long that you do not even want to leave your cell when the door is opened and you are told to leave. You insist on remaining where you are, cursing the wardens and lampooning the food when you are not impeded from walking out of the door into a new life that could be wonderful and fulfilled regardless of your past and prison years. We Yorubas should look at where we are and brainstorm how we must not squander this golden chance to work with a centre we now have so much influence in to better ourselves. I am not suggesting I am right 100% but I am saying that we should at least seriously look at what matters and the reality allied to the advantageous position we find ourselves in today that has not been the case since 1999. 5 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 4:38pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
FreeGlobe: Like i told you in the past, & will continue to .... "No one gets anywhere FAST by stopping to throw stones at every rabid canine that snarls or glares at one.. Take yourself off & go back to the places where you chest beat about an eldorado that won't happen... Your major problem is inability to think deep & comprehend posts that sail beyond your meagre sound judgement & reasoning.... You see posters online & begin to act all crazy & mentioning them to engage in E war with you, something must be lacking in your everyday life!!.. If for any reason i won't support PMB any longer, i have not seen any inkling of it..... Now he is still BAE! Now go have several seats on a bed of barb wired nails... *Mic drop* ... future mentions ignored, won't let mannerless louts derail this!!!! Aareonakakanfo . .. Apologies... 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 4:38pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Gbawe: Too early to tell. We can only hope. I wonder what OBJ's presidency brought to the SW. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by FreeGlobe(f): 4:41pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
modath:You thought this thread was locked to non yorubas or what? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 4:42pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Gbawe, I don't see why we can't multitask: encourage, criticize and applaud. I'm still looking for something to applaud. You're mainly trying to tell ME that I can't criticize the likes of Aregbesola who likes to spend beyond their means? Aseju ni yen. Let's not try to save face online because of mischievous fellows. By doing so, were protecting mediocrity. Some of these political stooges check out nl. 6 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 4:44pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Bros unless we are intent on lying to ourselves, Nothing FOR NOW!!. If people are laid off, with no other kind of industry to absorb them, & also bearing in mind that our financial institutions are not programmed to support SMEs,....... WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES?? 4 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by MayorofLagos(m): 4:46pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Firefire: Ooto oro, pabambari! 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 4:46pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
modath: Farming and living within ones means. You can't be making Toyota and thinking to buy Lamborghini. You gotta work for it. Make our cocoa and palm oil business lucrative again. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by GspotAngela(f): 4:48pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Aregbosola deserves to be stripped nake.d, flogged, nailed & crucified on a cross |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 4:50pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
modath: Which is why I ask. Because we can stay here and rail all day but with that mammoth wage bill aka welfarism we are not going anywhere soon Who would bell the cat. Btw I was in Ife oau between 1997 and 2004 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 4:53pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Ibebe: How do we make it happen? I'm 150% for that... Mining is another option, but how do we translate it from idea to reality ?? Your sister freeglobe just created a thread & invited her acolytes to battle... I can't stop laughing... ![]() ![]() ![]() Cc; gbawe & Aareonakakanfo ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 4:56pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Firefire:Na today our government don dey do things by fiat? This current situation is not sustainable, we will continue to pile up debt |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 4:59pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
raumdeuter:Sack 80%, nothing more, nothing less |
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