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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 5:57pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Ibebe:We have a few quarries mining mostly limestone, a few are doing precious metals illegally. Thank God we have fayemi in that ministry, though it will take constitutional amendment to get it off the exclusive list for states to manage their minerals |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 6:03pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
tupacshakur:God bless you. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by attacker231: 6:14pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Firefire: True talk. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Eshinwaju: 7:18pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Ilekeh: One hundred percent certified. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 7:42pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Guys well done, I See ya, thank you all.... Never knew i'm a nightmare to some ooo, seems they are tired of creating threads about Barcanista & the all day cardio ain't working out (pun intended) ... |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Gbawe: 7:58pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
superstar1: Thank you Superstar1 . I never said anyone should not criticise leaders or talk of past mistake. What I resent is making that the main subject of discussion without recognising that the chance is here to make real progress. I also feel the vitriol on this thread towards Yoruba leaders is unnecessary, lacking in pragmatism and unfair. Someone will say "useless Tinubu" while another will say Tinubu has enslaved the SW. Pray tell me, all productive members of this forum, would Buhari be President today without Tinubu? Would we not still be totally despondent now, to the extent this thread will not even exist, if Tinubu had not acted and made personal sacrifice to oust GEJ? Would Fashola, one of the most brilliant administrator Nigeria has ever known, be Minister of power, works and housing today if GEJ had gained a second term? Would the solid minerals sector, under GEJ, not continue to be business-as-usual under PDP that made it moribund for the past 16 years? I could go on but my point is that we should endeavour to see the big picture always. Yorubas say "ti aba n sun ekun ki a ma riran". Which means even with tears cloud your vision you must still make the effort to try and see ahead or note what matters most. I would be very disappointment if Fashola has not gone far towards securing stable power for Nigeria in the next three years and would deem it unacceptable if Fayemi has failed to supervise the liberalisation of the solid minerals sector. Those type of 'looking forward' considerations are what matters to me above everything else but it does not mean I wish to disregard the past either. My view in relation to the past is that we must note the unique challenges we faced and the struggle that got us to this advantaged position today and acknowledge the good and bad of those who helped make it happen to the extent there is now serious optimism that political talent and goodwill is now in place, since 1999, to supervise Nigeria's march towards greatness and development. I can bet any money this thread would not exist today if GEJ had won because the pervasive doom and gloom of the day would mean most of us would have deactivated our account or slipped into political depression at the hopelessness of our situation. Fashola, Fayemi et al will be nowhere to be seen, Sambo rather than Osinbajo will be VP and GEJ will continue bleeding us through Allison-Madueke and his many crooks. Most likely Nigerians in the next year or so, in large numbers, will be Syrian-like refugees trying to escape the total chaos GEJ has created. It could be worse but luckily we dodged the bullet and I would like us to appreciate where we are and how we can take advantage of this unique position to get what we have always wanted 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Gbawe: 8:03pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
IyaIode: Yes but there are several brilliant articles, and I will try to find one, suggesting how Nigeria and her States can use the PPP model (public private sector partnership) to develop its solid mineral sector. Private and specialist operators provide the finance, specialist knowledge and counterpart funding to begin the commercial and profitable mining of solid minerals. You are of course right that extant laws must first be amended to permit this to happen but we are hopeful this will be the case and feel this is why Buhari brought Fayemi, one of his most trusted associate, on board. http://dailytimes.com.ng/regulating-nigerias-mining-sector/ Regulating Nigeria’S Mining Sector 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 8:10pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Tinubu enslavement must end if Yoruba Nation will move forward. His inordinate ambition to own the whole of Africa must be checked, his excessive demand from political office holders must be stopped. His selfish era of fixing his immediate family members into available political posts must not continue... These are many more checks should be performed on all leaders in our region. Chief Obafemi Awolomo who they are all claiming to emulate will NEVER be this selfish. God bless the Yoruba Nation. Shalom! 4 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by semitunde: 8:31pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
So I watching the film " The cold light of day" and saw as part of the credits a certain Yoruba name as the director of photography. It was an action/ thriller movie with Bruce Willis as part of the cast. It was a "grade a" film so I thought to check him out. Enter Remi Adefarasin . 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 8:35pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
quimicababes: Loool. I found one soca tune for ya...better whine to this. I'm still looking for the one I love most at the carnival. Whenever that tune comes on, I just start whining those half-naked carnival chics lool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pusPnlZpRuw |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 8:36pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
quimicababes Take this as well. This is soca though it did crossover to mainstream. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP3Exc5tCtc |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by semitunde: 8:37pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
I believe if we are going to get even better in our movie craft. He's one of those who can be of great resource Remi Adefarasin Born February 2, 1948 (age 67) London, England Occupation Cinematographer Remi Adefarasin, OBE, BSC (born 2 February 1948, London) is a British cinematographer. He is educated in Photography & Filmmaking at Harrow Art School. Started his career as camera trainee at BBC-TV's Ealing Studios. His work on Elizabeth (1998) won him awards for Best Cinematography from BAFTA and the British Society of Cinematographers, as well as a "Golden Frog" from Camerimage and an Academy Award nomination. Adefarasin was appointed Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) in the 2012 New Year Honours for services to television and film.
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 8:37pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Gbawe: By and large, there is cause for optimism, if and only if the liberalisation of the power sector and solid minerals could be achieved by those aforementioned gentlemen. We need to also mount intense pressure on Ameachi to liberalise the rail, probably through the likes of Fashola and Fayeemi. Imagine the impact of liberalised rail on SW, with supersonic fast train system. People can be working in Lagos and live conveniently in Ado or Ogbomosho. Apart from this, SW need to mine the following sectors: 1 Tourism/hospitality inclusive of worldclass amusement parks, water parks and zoo 2. Agriculture -- mechanised farming on a large scale 3. Medical tourism -- build just 1 worldclass massive medical centre with expertise to treat virtually all diseases, making it a first hospital of referral in Nigeria and Africa. 4. Sport tourism/hub -- a befitting and well equipped stadium that can be used as to positively engage our youths and production of stars that will bring glory to the land and they can also motivate others. There is no where in Africa that is hosting Grand slam, Grand Prix, polo tourney, golf tourney. A state like Osun can build its calendar round world tournaments like this. 5. ICT hub -- this is very huge. 6. Technical and financial supports for SMEs and start-ups. Others can add their ideas. We can collate and develop these ideas gradually and send them as papers to DAWN and to some sincere state and local governments. I believe we all just want the best for our region and that is the spirit that is keeping all of us on this thread. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 8:40pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Yoruba religion's contribution to the Haitian revolution The Haitian Revolution was the first incidence of mass emancipation in a colonial society and the only slave revolt that resulted in the formation of a modern state. However,existing canonical works on this revolution have largely concentrated on providing a central symbiotic relationship between the slave revolt and the broader changes in the Atlantic World during the 18th century. It has even been widely assumed that the Haitian Revolution was intellectually inspired by Western cultural values. Indeed, the Yoruba slave, Dutty Boukman, who ignited the revolution has been reduced to a mere footnote in the body of the prevailing Western-biased Haitian hegemonic historiography. This paper argues that the revolution, which was historically rooted in a legendary Yoruba traditionthat abhors injustice, corruption and oppression, represents the very best of Yoruba’s cultural attainment in the Diaspora. The study further ‘resurrects’ the monumental contributions of Dutty Bookman to the outbreak of the revolution and underscores the fact that the Yoruba god of Ogun was the most portent rallying force that drove the revolution. Thus, the paper situates the cultural roots of the Haitian Revolution in its proper historical perspective and challenges one of the prevailing stereotypes about the“meagre” contributions of enslaved Africans to the emancipation of African slaves. The study, therefore, represents a major revision of the current historiography on the emancipation movement, and further highlights the methodological challenges of reconstructing the history of the slave trade in the Diaspora ============================================================= If you want to read more, the PDF paper of the scholarship is on this link: http://www.academia.edu/947729/Historicising_African_Contributions_to_the_Emancipation_Movement_The_Haitian_Revolution_1791-1805 |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by tupacshakur(m): 9:01pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Firefire: True talk, baba! Ododo oro ni yen! I have never liked that guy and I still wonder what his wife is doing in the senate. She has just a degree in education for crying out loud. There are a lot of better, more experienced and more qualified APC members from the Lagos central senatorial district. Tinubu aptly defines the word "Nepotism" and "Cronyism". From his Senator wife to his Iyaloja daughter and his house of reps member son-in-law. ...just imagine the returns that accrue to him monthly from all SW Governors barring Ekiti and Ondo. His excesses and undue influences must be checked for the Yoruba nation to move forward. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 9:01pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
The Malê Revolt: The Malê Revolt of the Brazilian Yoruba slaves The Muslim uprising of 1835 in Bahia illustrates the condition and legacy of resistance among the community of Malês, as African Muslims were known in 19th century Bahia. The majority of the participants were Nago, the local designation for ethnic Yoruba. Many of the "Malês" had been soldiers and captives in the wars between Oyo, Ilorin and other Yoruba city-states in the early part of the 19th Century. Other participants included Hausa and Nupe clerics, along with Jeje or Dahomean soldiers who had converted to Islam or fought in alliance with Muslims While the revolt was scheduled to take place on Sunday, January 25, due to various incidents, it was forced to start before the planned time. On Saturday the 24th, slaves began to hear rumors of an upcoming rebellion. While there are multiple accounts of freed slaves telling their previous masters about the revolts, only one was reported to the proper authorities. A man named Domingos Fortunato overheard rumors and told his wife, Guilhermina Rosa de Souza, of the rebellion. Guilhermina then proceeded to tell her white neighbor, André Pinto da Silveira. Several of Pinto de Silveira's friends were present, including Antônio de Souza Guimarães and Francisco Antônio Malheiros, who took it upon themselves to relay the information to the local authorities. All of these events occurred between the hours of 9:30 and 10:30 PM on Saturday the 24th. The justice of the peace, José Mendes de Costa Coelho, took the necessary precautions; he reinforced the palace guard, alerted the barracks, doubled the night patrol, and ordered boats to watch the bay, all by 11:00 PM. At around 1:00 AM on Sunday, justices of the peace searched the home of Domingos Marinho de Sa. Domingos had reported that there were Africans meeting in his house due to fear for his life. However, sensing Domingos's fear, the justices asked to see for themselves. They went down into his basement and found the ringleaders, discussing last minute details. However, the Africans were able to turn the officers out into the streets. Out on the streets, the fighting saw its first real bloodshed; several people were injured and at least one killed. After securing the area, the rebels split up to go in different directions throughout the city. Most of the groups did very little fighting because they were recruiters, calling slaves to war. However, the largest group traveled up the hill toward Palace Square (Praça Municipal today), and continued to fight. The rebels decided to first attack the city palace of the jail , attempting to free a Muslim leader, Pacifico Licutan. However, the prison guards proved too much for the rebels, who perhaps were looking to supplement their weak supply of arms with the jailers'. Under heavy fire, the slaves withdrew from the prison and retreated to the Largo de Teatro. Reinforcements arrived on the slaves side, and together they attacked a nearby post of soldiers in order to take their weapons. They marched toward the officer's barracks, and put up a good fight, however, the soldiers were able to pull the gate guarding the barracks shut. The slaves had failed. After failing to take several more key positions, the slaves decided to head through the city, toward Cabrito, the designated meeting spot. However, in between Cabrito and Salvador da Bahia was the Brazilian cavalry. And when they met in Água de Meninos, the most decisive battle of the revolt took place. At about 3:00 AM, the rebels reached Água de Meninos. The footsoldiers immediately retreated inside the confines of the barracks while the men on horseback stayed outside. The rebels, who now only numbered about 50–60, did not attempt to attack the barracks. Instead, they sought a way around it. However, they were met with fire from the barracks, followed by a cavalry charge, which proved too powerful for the rebel slaves. After the rebels were completely devastated, more slaves arrived. After assessing the situation, the slaves decided that their only hope would be to attack and take the barracks. However, this desperate attempt proved futile, and the rebels quickly decided to flee. The cavalry mounted one last charge that finished them off. Fearful that the whole state of Bahia would follow the example of Saint-Domingue (Haiti) and rise up and revolt, the authorities quickly sentenced four of the rebels to death, sixteen to prison, eight to forced labour, and forty-five to flogging. The remainder of surviving leaders of the revolt were then deported back to Africa by the authorities; it is believed that some members of the Brazilian community in Lagos, Nigeria, Tabom People of Ghana are descended from this deportation, although descendants of these Afro-Brazilian repatriates are reputed to be widespread throughout West Africa (such as Sylvanus Olympio, the first president of Togo). The term "Aguda" on the other hand refers to the mainstream, predominantly Christian Brazilian returnees to Lagos who brought Roman Catholicism in their wake; which is why that denomination is often referenced in Yoruba as "Ijo Aguda" (The Portuguese Church). Fearing the example might be followed, the Brazilian authorities began to watch the malês very carefully and in subsequent years intensive efforts were made to force conversions to Catholicism and erase the popular memory and affection towards Islam. However, the African Muslim community was not erased overnight, and as late as 1910 it is estimated there were still some 100,000 African Muslims living in Brazil. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 9:04pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Hey, OAM4J and lalasticlacla, please unban my "shymm3x" handle and open my last post. Thanks in advance. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by jstbeinhonest(m): 9:09pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Guys take note,the babe/guy kestolove94/5/6 is igbo claiming yoruba,what she does is that she goes about insulting ibos,thereby causing tribal wars.You could be in the sport section discussing about messi,and then she comes in and attack iboes despite the fact that d topic being discussed has no correlation with her comment,she is trying to create an impression that the yorubas are obssesed with the flatinoes,Meanwhile in heated arguements especially wen the e-boos are losing she shows her true colors and attack Ooduans.Go tru her comments,she is a pure tribalEAST. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 9:41pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Osomalo(m): 9:53pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
9jacrip: Beeni oooooooo. You should have noticed the way I posted it "Beeni Boda Mii". Lord, I love Ile-Ife. I just got back home. I went to office, from there we went to the stadium in one of our estates. Today is the final of the tournament(MD's Cup). They beat our team(NA-PHD FC) 3-1. I decided not to come online since then because I was angry and almost insulted someone. He knows himself. So, I apologized and let it go instead of trading words. The Useless politicians have been borrowing and are still borrowing yet some people believe we should not bash them. Just imagine that? It's quite pathetic. Too bad some people are still telling us to chill, that the situation is not that bad. Seriously? The debt of Osun State as at 2014 was 52bn yet the projects executed do not commiserate with the debt. What worries me is how do we pay the debt? We can't afford to mortgage the future of our unborn children. And, we shouldn't be bothered about what some Romanis say. Let them taunt us, we don't care. That shouldn't stop us from being factual. E kale jarey. Some people can piss you off. I just logged out before I lost my cool. The King Is Back. Oba Osomaloo of Osomalooland |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Osomalo(m): 9:58pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Firefire: God bless you Sir. Tell them to manage the resources effectively and stop borrowing. Are they not ashamed of borrowing? One goat said "I can't pay salaries anymore because banks have stopped giving me loans". Just imagine that, just imagine? Tell them. 1 Like
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:11pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Gbawe:I have always suspected those Chinese, especially those that are rehabilitating our railway lines, they hide under this to milk us. I pray Fayemi is up to the task |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 10:14pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Osomalo: Unfortunately, we have even gotten to the stage of using bank loans to pay salaries and wages after many failed projects and mounting debt financing. When are we going to ask for full accountability from our leaders ? Instead we are playing partisan and supporting the looters online why they milk us dry. Osun State - How much does it cost the state for changing its name from Osun State to 'the State of Osun', and what is the economic benefit now ? - The proposed airport, how much has been committed into the project and what is the plan going forward ? - The school mergers, how is it being managed and what has it costs the government ? - The free feeding initiative, before being cancelled, who are the suppliers of the food stuff and are they resident of Osun ? - Are all the contractors used in all the state project living in Osun state to ensure the government investment and cash payout is circulating within the state economy ? Lagos State - If the government claimed its IGR is 75% of its annual budget, what now happened to the remaining fund from the federation account ? - The mounting loan, Bonds, and other internal and external debts what are they meant for specifically, and are they judiciously appropriated ? - Can somebody be clear enough to tally the loans to the applicable infrastructural development ? If we come together in a position of unity, and in ONE VOICE, we can get more dividends of democracy. Ki awon alale ile Odua ma sun lorun ooooo. 3 Likes
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 10:21pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Osomalo: You will always see few people who are benefitting from the government of SW in one way or the other coming here to paint black white. I implore them to consider their future and the future of our yet unborn children. The debt is just too much and we should stop accumulating debt payable in the next 25 Years... ki lo de ? Sugbon, ohun ti mo mo ni wipe, bi iro ba lo ni ogun odun, ojo kan ni ooto ma ba. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Gbawe: 10:24pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
IyaIode: Well, he will get 100% support and assistance from the presidency for starters so I don't think Fayemi can have any excuses for not delivering. http://punchng.com/exposed-power-play-behind-buharis-super-ministers-appointments/ Apart from favouring his long time allies, 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:26pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Firefire:You people want to bring anti Tinubu whatever here, you want us to go the Apc vs pdp thing on this thread, i posted pictures earlier that showed most of the debt owed by Osun, Oyo and Ogun were actually acquired by previous Pdp governors, Oyo under Ajumobi has managed to reduce its debts by a billion. Don't make me loose my cool here. I know how much Gbenga Daniel almost crippled Ogun state, i know how he left the state 12 billion naira external debt few years after Obj cleared everything. If you people want to campaign, let us know o 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 10:29pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
IyaIode: Please do, if that will make you comfortable. Thanks. 4 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:31pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Firefire:Me and you no be here |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 10:32pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by attacker231: 10:46pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
Firefire: Hey, you have started with your foolishness. Dont turn this thread to a PDP vs APC, you paid per post guys can go open a thread about PDP/APC or whatever. Now I know you dont have good intention, you are a politician and trying to cause problem here. Stick to your praise singing job abeg. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 10:56pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
attacker231: SMH 1 Like |
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