Katsumoto:


Hahahahahaha

I dropped by last night; I even mentioned your handle. Hope you are keeping well bro.

I'm good...just same ol same ol.

I saw it this morning but there were too many folks on the thread and I didn't want to get involved in their tiff.

Too bad I need to hit the Church now. But I'll check back later in the day.

superduperjay:
@modath, please what is the meaning of political jobber?

You really don't know or you are sending me a coded message?

yomexp:
please permit me to drop this here; A yoruba son doing us proud-Nigerian Scholar Solves 156-year-
Old Problem In Maths, Gets $1M www.nairaland.com/2738010/nigerian-scholar-solves-156-year-old#40039101

This is what I love to hear about Yorubaland... http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/nigerian-solves-156-years-old-knotty-hypothesis-in-maths/225694/

Firefire:


My brother, if you understand the tactics, it's nothing than to catch fun to counter the other praise singers.

Fayose, is not doing enough thou incapacitated but better than Raufu.

Wrong and misleading tactics. Must you comment to praise a non performing governor just because he belongs in a party you align with? It's very wrong and deceitful.

Katsumoto:
I haven't read the entire thread but kudos to all asking pertinent questions.

In my view, the present SW Leadership is failing. Fashola apart, the others have been a disappointment - Aregbesola, Ajumobi, Fayemi, Amosun, Ambode, Mimiko.

There are no sustainable ideas from any of them. The sad part is that they are all missing a great opportunity.

Shymexx, Zimoni, Raumdeter, 9jacrip, Gbawe - Salutations to you all.

Wow! the great Kats in the building

Good to have you back sir.

E jo e bawa dasi awon oro to wa nile yi.

Katsumoto:


But how much debt has Aregbe borrowed? Surely, the huge debt profile of Osun can't be as a result of just N18.3 Billion.

Oga katsumoto good to see you. Hope you will stick around. Some of my point is that Aregbesola got ahead of himself not planning properly in regards to some of his lofty projects but serious shortfalls in allocation compounded issues. Th FG knows the salary obligation of States and the FG has the duty of putting rainy day savings in place to help States stay afloat yet because of the corruption and wantonly gross looting of the PDP and GEJ many States got into trouble virtually the minute oil prices plummeted. There was no buffers in place at all and between 24-28 States could not pay wages. A responsible government will have no option but to take loans to pay salaries however he may wish to hold out if allocation has fallen by 50-70% and is taking at that level. All in all many governors did not plan well but there is proof they were blindsided by development such as falling oil price.

Many State were already in trouble from when GEJ unilaterally announced a minimum wage, binding on all, that many states could not pay. If we look at all issues as they are interlinked then it becomes obvious that SW governors did compound some problem but we're powerless to prevent others, which they did not cause, from becoming an Albatross around the neck of SW States. This is why I happy GEJ is gone as there is now a chance to repair the damage from the centre while the electorate at State level can do the needful to rove underperforming governors.

Gbawe:


Oga katsumoto good to see you. Hope you will stick around. Some of my point is that Aregbesola got ahead of himself not planning properly in regards to some of his lofty projects but serious shortfalls in allocation compounded issues. Th FG knows the salary obligation of States and the FG has the duty of putting rainy day savings in place to help States stay afloat yet because of the corruption and wantonly gross looting of the PDP and GEJ many States got into trouble virtually the minute oil prices plummeted. There was no buffers in place at all and between 24-28 States could not pay wages. A responsible government will have no option but to take loans to pay salaries however he may wish to hold out if allocation has fallen by 50-70% and is taking at that level. All in all many governors did not plan well but there is proof they were blindsided by development such as falling oil price.

Many State were already in trouble from when GEJ unilaterally announced a minimum wage, binding on all, that many states could not pay. If we look at all issues as they are interlinked then it becomes obvious that SW governors did compound some problem but we're powerless to prevent others, which they did not cause, from becoming an Albatross around the neck of SW States. This is why I happy GEJ is gone as there is now a chance to repair the damage from the centre while the electorate at State level can do the needful to rove underperforming governors.

@ sentence in bold.

I believe that was a nationwide thing, not just a SW thing. How come we're using that as an excuse for how utter poor the fiscal policies of SW governors are? Other states stayed afloat despite the increase in the minimum wage.

Can we get the total number of workforce employed by all the states in the federation?

Katsumoto:


But how much debt has Aregbe borrowed? Surely, the huge debt profile of Osun can't be as a result of just N18.3 Billion.

Gbawe:


Oga katsumoto good to see you. Hope you will stick around. Some of my point is that Aregbesola got ahead of himself not planning properly in regards to some of his lofty projects but serious shortfalls in allocation compounded issues. Th FG knows the salary obligation of States and the FG has the duty of putting rainy day savings in place to help States stay afloat yet because of the corruption and wantonly gross looting of the PDP and GEJ many States got into trouble virtually the minute oil prices plummeted. There was no buffers in place at all and between 24-28 States could not pay wages. A responsible government will have no option but to take loans to pay salaries however he may wish to hold out if allocation has fallen by 50-70% and is taking at that level. All in all many governors did not plan well but there is proof they were blindsided by development such as falling oil price.

Many State were already in trouble from when GEJ unilaterally announced a minimum wage, binding on all, that many states could not pay. If we look at all issues as they are interlinked then it becomes obvious that SW governors did compound some problem but we're powerless to prevent others, which they did not cause, from becoming an Albatross around the neck of SW States. This is why I happy GEJ is gone as there is now a chance to repair the damage from the centre while the electorate at State level can do the needful to rove underperforming governors.

....

Gbawe:


Oga katsumoto good to see you. Hope you will stick around. Some of my point is that Aregbesola got ahead of himself not planning properly in regards to some of his lofty projects but serious shortfalls in allocation compounded issues. Th FG knows the salary obligation of States and the FG has the duty of putting rainy day savings in place to help States stay afloat yet because of the corruption and wantonly gross looting of the PDP and GEJ many States got into trouble virtually the minute oil prices plummeted. There was no buffers in place at all and between 24-28 States could not pay wages. A responsible government will have no option but to take loans to pay salaries however he may wish to hold out if allocation has fallen by 50-70% and is taking at that level. All in all many governors did not plan well but there is proof they were blindsided by development such as falling oil price.

Many State were already in trouble from when GEJ unilaterally announced a minimum wage, binding on all, that many states could not pay. If we look at all issues as they are interlinked then it becomes obvious that SW governors did compound some problem but we're powerless to prevent others, which they did not cause, from becoming an Albatross around the neck of SW States. This is why I happy GEJ is gone as there is now a chance to repair the damage from the centre while the electorate at State level can do the needful to rove underperforming governors.

Why are you economical with the truth ?

When the ECA was shared how was it managed by the state governors ?

Those who created the Excess Crude Account (ECA) in 2004 meant well. It was opened during the Chief Olusegun Obasanjo presidency to save oil revenues above the established benchmark at the beginning of every fiscal year.

The primary objective is to shield budget estimates against shortfalls that may arise from volatility in crude oil prices at the international market.

By separating government expenditures from oil revenues, the ECA was designed “to insulate the economy from external shocks”, a modern threat known to many countries in the 30s and 40s.

the erstwhile Financial Minister and Coordinating Minister for the Economy Dr. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala said the economy was under threat. She expressed concern over the continuous depletion of savings in the ECA.

The minister, who spoke on the sideline of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, warned that the depletion of the ECA to about $2.5 billion had made the country more vulnerable than it was in the past, thereby putting the economy at great risk.

As a cushion against the depletion, she said: “We have tried to set the country’s main parameters in a very modest way. We have made our budget at a very reasonable benchmark price for oil. This is to shield us and to ensure we are not subjected to any volatility that may be in the oil markets.”


The Nigeria Governors’ Forum (NGF) has said it will seek a final constitutional interpretation of all matters relating to the Excess Crude Account controversy between the federal and state governments.

The forum’s Chairman and Governor of Rivers, Mr Chibuike Amaechi, said yesterday in Abuja that the body would seek “a final resolution from the Supreme Court” on all matters relating to the controversy.

Amaechi said this was because the NGF had been dissatisfied with the “present attitude of the Federal Government on the Excess Crude Account”.

The meeting, which was held at the Rivers State Governor’s Lodge in the Abuja, was attended by, among others, the governors of Rivers, Ekiti, Ogun and Imo.

Others at the meeting included governors of Lagos, Kano, Plateau, Anambra, Bauchi, Adamawa, Gombe, Yobe, Jigawa, Delta, Ondo, Abia, Kogi and Oyo states.

http://www.theheraldnews.info/governors-drag-fg-to-scourt-over-excess-crude-account

http://thenationonlineng.net/excess-crude-account-and-the-controversy-lingers/

Firefire:


God bless you.

Starting from the looter Gbenga Daniel in Ogun state, all his OGD Buses are medium used to steal the state dry.

Then to Alao Akala, who used all Oyo state resources to tone his skin and buy necklaces and 'leg-laces'

Then to Olagunsoye Oyinlola of Osun, whose reign shows no developmental project and so on.

We should check the foundation, and now consider how the coming builders lay on it.

So you know this?

Katsumoto:


Hahahahahaha

I dropped by last night; I even mentioned your handle. Hope you are keeping well bro.

salutations sir

IyaIode:

So you know this?

Yes!

Reason, I detest bulk passing without the incumbent being more transparent and accountable.

Lool. No ma'am. I actually don't know what it means,

modath:


You really don't know or you are sending me a coded message?

I was following the debate on the fiscal issues in the SW.
I will not write to much stuff. I will simply drop these 2 videos.
As much as I dislike this guy's reactionary politics, he made some of the most sensible arguments on the way we should deal with Nigeria.
My own example Is the apapa port and power over land,air and sea which used to belong to the Western region.
That port generates trillions of naira every month.
Most of what comes in through those lagos ports do not leave the borders of the yoruba country. In order words, most are consumed in the SW.
So what does Nigeria do?
They take the money to Abuja where most of it is stolen and the rest shared. The Niger-delta even collects derivation on these revenues from the SW AS the money are all lumped into one single account.
Also the regions who have carved huge no of LGAS for themselves get more than the rightful owners.
But to add salt to injury, Our SW governors have to spend money to repairs infrastructure damaged by the activities of the FG and the incompetence, extreme greed and corruption of leaders from other places.
This is the same arguments I am making here. The only difference is that it is being made by venetian who are seeking independence in Italy.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2586531/Venice-votes-split-Italy-89-citys-residents-opt-form-new-independent-state.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NygBTITUG2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzB-CM0EgZM

superduperjay:
Lool. No ma'am. I actually don't know what it means,

It means people who don't have any viable means of livelihood save for political patronage.....

There are high level Jobbers, those are the AGIPs & the bottom feeders who attend rallies & get involved in E wars, Political Jobbing is a relentless occupation..

Please add Yorubas of Kwara and Kogi we are 100% Yorubas Biko
We have produced
Oyedepo
Omokere
Premier of western region
Successful people has a whole
Pls add us

Gbawe:


Oga katsumoto good to see you. Hope you will stick around. Some of my point is that Aregbesola got ahead of himself not planning properly in regards to some of his lofty projects but serious shortfalls in allocation compounded issues. Th FG knows the salary obligation of States and the FG has the duty of putting rainy day savings in place to help States stay afloat yet because of the corruption and wantonly gross looting of the PDP and GEJ many States got into trouble virtually the minute oil prices plummeted. There was no buffers in place at all and between 24-28 States could not pay wages. A responsible government will have no option but to take loans to pay salaries however he may wish to hold out if allocation has fallen by 50-70% and is taking at that level. All in all many governors did not plan well but there is proof they were blindsided by development such as falling oil price.

Many State were already in trouble from when GEJ unilaterally announced a minimum wage, binding on all, that many states could not pay. If we look at all issues as they are interlinked then it becomes obvious that SW governors did compound some problem but we're powerless to prevent others, which they did not cause, from becoming an Albatross around the neck of SW States. This is why I happy GEJ is gone as there is now a chance to repair the damage from the centre while the electorate at State level can do the needful to rove underperforming governors.

Lets look at the issues from a leadership perspective

It is clear to all that most states in Nigeria are not sustainable. Osun, Ekiti spring to mind in the SW. When a person becomes a leader, he must know most of the issues bedevilling his/her area of leadership. A first year university student should be able to tell you that most states have a bloated civil service. So why do governors maintain this bloated service? Isn't it so that they can use it a tool in the political arsenal?

Second, a situation where an administrator receives more than 90% of his revenue from the central government is a rather dangerous one and any wise administrator will do what it takes to increase the IGR of his area. What are SW governors doing in terms of increasing revenue? Not much if they struggle to pay salaries.

Third, in the face of the most austere conditions, how is it that ALL Nigerian governors are relatively wealthy? You don't need Sherlock Holmes to tell you that corruption is the source of their wealth. What I am driving at is that governors reserve their own corruption budget and then seek to execute what they can with they feel is the remainder of the budget.

So what are the solutions

1. Merge states but we know this won't happen due to pride and greed
2. Reduce the civil service but we know this won't happen because governors want to use the civil service to further their selfish ambitions
3. Increase revenue through agriculture, taxed services, tourism (but security must be improved first)
4. Reduce mismanagement & corruption
5. Reduce nepotism & cronyism
6. Increase expenditure on education, particularly for gifted students
7. Reduce the size of the underground economy from approximately 70% to at least 30%

There are brilliant people all over Nigeria but Nigeria will not progress if its the same professional politicians who continue to aspire to office at ALL costs. To surmise, the issue is one of leadership and not one of falling crude prices. Aregbesola, Fayemi, Amosun, Fayose, Mimiko, Ambode are all failures. They should step aside for better leaders.

Jobneeded12:
Please add Yorubas of Kwara and Kogi we are 100% Yorubas Biko
We have produced
Oyedepo
Omokere
Premier of western region
Successful people has a whole
Pls add us

I dont think anyone is removing you guys

yomexp:
salutations sir

Right back at ya.

Jobneeded12:
Please add Yorubas of Kwara and Kogi we are 100% Yorubas Biko
We have produced
Oyedepo
Omokere
Premier of western region
Successful people has a whole
Pls add us

You are already added..

Thread is titled YORUBA COMMONWEALTH.

It's you guys that have not embraced the thread yet, hopefully that will change soon.. Welcome..



@ olori oko Katsumoto,

Me feel you entered my brain & "kidnapped" my thoughts, thank God i just found them in your last post..

Owo meta feyan kan..

Se ko waale, abi ko si duro soke?

I asked a question earlier and seem not to get a response.
Y'all be mentioning other states without mentioning Kogi and Kwara.
I ask again,which state make up the Yoruba commonwealth?

A lot to learn here.... Make I dey follow all contributions.

Vyolet:
I asked a question earlier and seem not to get a response.
Y'all be mentioning other states without mentioning Kogi and Kwara.
I ask again,which state make up the Yoruba commonwealth?

Kwara and kogi are not excluded your contributions are welcome.

Vyolet:
I asked a question earlier and seem not to get a response.
Y'all be mentioning other states without mentioning Kogi and Kwara.
I ask again,which state make up the Yoruba commonwealth?

YOU are the person to CONTRIBUTE, no state is mentioned per se....

aareonakakanfo,

Come now, you can't abandon this thread oo, bobo is saying hi...

modath:


@ olori oko Katsumoto,

Me feel you entered my brain & "kidnapped" my thoughts, thank God i just found them in your last post..

Owo meta feyan kan..

Se ko waale, abi ko si duro soke?

E je ko wale.

Katsumoto:


Lets look at the issues from a leadership perspective

It is clear to all that most states in Nigeria are not sustainable. Osun, Ekiti spring to mind in the SW. When a person becomes a leader, he must know most of the issues bedevilling his/her area of leadership. A first year university student should be able to tell you that most states have a bloated civil service. So why do governors maintain this bloated service? Isn't it so that they can use it a tool in the political arsenal?

Second, a situation where an administrator receives more than 90% of his revenue from the central government is a rather dangerous one and any wise administrator will do what it takes to increase the IGR of his area. What are SW governors doing in terms of increasing revenue? Not much if they struggle to pay salaries.

Third, in the face of the most austere conditions, how is it that ALL Nigerian governors are relatively wealthy? You don't need Sherlock Holmes to tell you that corruption is the source of their wealth. What I am driving at is that governors reserve their own corruption budget and then seek to execute what they can with they feel is the remainder of the budget.

So what are the solutions

1. Merge states but we know this won't happen due to pride and greed
2. Reduce the civil service but we know this won't happen because governors want to use the civil service to further their selfish ambitions
3. Increase revenue through agriculture, taxed services, tourism (but security must be improved first)
4. Reduce mismanagement & corruption
5. Reduce nepotism & cronyism
6. Increase expenditure on education, particularly for gifted students
7. Reduce the size of the underground economy from approximately 70% to at least 30%

There are brilliant people all over Nigeria but Nigeria will not progress if its the same professional politicians who continue to aspire to office at ALL costs. To surmise, the issue is one of leadership and not one of falling crude prices. Aregbesola, Fayemi, Amosun, Fayose, Mimiko, Ambode are all failures. They should step aside for better leaders.

Merge O, Unmerge O, "Dismerge" O, or discharge.
Nothing will change.
Yes the tax collection system is archaic but in reality, Our people are already over taxed without any benefit.
Education trust fund tax ? We pay most of that as well while other states piggyback on our little allocation and social infrastructure.
Fact is the people are simply beating about the bush and denying the truth.
NO STATE,TOWN, CITY OR FARMING SETTLEMENT IN YORUBALAND IS UNVIABLE. THAT IS WHY THEY EXIST.
All of our cities were all viable city state before Nigeria. They remain so because of the way we organise ourselves, our culture and our values.
The western region was not organised as stated but as more compacts provinces.
The Ondo province
Akoko province
Ijebu province
Ekiti province
Abeokuta province
Benin province
Ife province.
Warri province
Owo province
Kabba province
And so on.
The fact is that the compact nature of those provinces ensured the even development of the homeland without swaddling us with the baggage of a useless FG and the expensive presidential system of government.
I saw the debates on tourism yesterday and I laughed.
Like Shymmex said , It is like not learning to crawl before walking .
Journeys to ancient towns like Esa-oke will reveal the inherent potentials .
We are never going to get a developed tourism industry without the peace dividend.
There will be no peace dividend as long as we remain in Nigeria.
Sorry to say, some people in Nigeria simply default to crime and violence.
Tourism alone has the capacity to feed the SW. Our people do not spare the change in order to indulge.We simply need to get out of the country first.

Belmot:
Kwara and kogi are not excluded your contributions are welcome.

modath:

YOU are the person to CONTRIBUTE, no state is mentioned per se....
aareonakakanfo,
Come now, you can't abandon this thread oo, bobo is saying hi...

Oh yeah..
It didn't look like it all these while,esp when it is only five state governors(Oyo,Ogun,Ekiti,Osun, and Lagos) we read about.

Vyolet:
Yoruba commonwealth and politics?
May I know the states entitled to join the conversation or rather those fit to be called yorubas.
I can only read more of Lagos here.

Lagos
Ondo
Oyo
Osun
Ekiti
Ogun


(We left out Kwara/Kogi for now until they ask us to include them)

Vyolet:



Oh yeah..
It didn't look like it all these while,esp when it is only five state governors(Oyo,Ogun,Ekiti,Osun, and Lagos) we read about.

Are you Itsekiris, from Kwara or Kogi?

Katsumoto:




E je ko wale.

A dupe sir..

Osomalo:


Whoooooooooooooo

It would be nice to have this in Tongeji Island, Ipokia LG Ogun State.


I dream of having something like this in the Island. The pic below.

Looks nice. I'll start creating graphics for development.

PassingShot:

Wrong and misleading tactics. Must you comment to praise a non performing governor just because he belongs in a party you align with? It's very wrong and deceitful.

The governors that you have been praising are they performing?